So when you make a promise to someone and then break it, and they complain, are they whining? IBM promised Apple they'd have 3 ghz chips within a year...two years ago. Apple still hasn't gotten them, nor have they gotten a mobile G5. Or when Motorola promised Apple 500 mhz chips and couldn't deliver, so Apple had to knock the whole PowerMac line down by 50 mhz.
while gaining XBox 360 and PS3, which will not only ship far more units than Apple over the next five years
Lots of people harp on this but they miss the point. All the parts for a console have to be cheap, and something Apple has never been is "cheap". The profit margin on an expensive dual core G5 would be higher than on multiple console PPC's. And while yes IBM is going to be making a good pile of cash from Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo, making chips for a static platform isn't going to further longterm development. The Cells produced two years from now will be the same as the ones used today, but what are desktop chips going to look like?
I LOVE this way people try to wriggle out of the fact that they're freeloaders.
I would love it if people who bitched about "freeloaders" considered how much consumer debt the average "freeloader" probably has, because downloading stuff online is only free if your time is worthless.
P2P isn't about "free", it's about convienience. It's more convienient to download stuff over bittorrent than it is to work 100 hours a week to actually pay for all the stuff you are getting.
The anti-Microsoft rhetoric here gets really tiresome
Could be worse, could be a knee-jerk Microsoft appologist.
Of course Microsoft forces their products and upgrades on people, it's what their entire business is based on. Want to keep your OEM discount? Better not install Netscape, or they'll cut your discount and your compeditors will destroy you. Want to play games on your computer? Had to upgrade from 2k to XP to get DirectX. Why is each version of Office not quite backwards compatible? So you'll be forced to upgrade to make sure you can handle all your clients files.
Sure, there are worse companies out there. Monsato comes to mind. But they're still pretty damn bad.
But don't fuck up the system and waste everyone's time by making the government *force* them to do something they ordinarily wouldn't do.
But that's just the point: supporting these devices is something they have ordinarily done. If they weren't supporting a new device, like Blue Ray or HD-DVD, you'd have a good point, but that's not what they are doing. They are specifically removing functionality in hardware you've already purchased.
Still shouldn't be a problem. I've seen DVD shrink used to rip the Japanese version of LOTR:FOTR with no problems, and this was two years ago. It complained about having to "brute force" the decryption but turned out just peachy.
Ah, yes. The old "but that wasn't REAL communism" red herring.
But there has never been a pure laissez faire capitalist state, so your point is stupid.
Why does it devolve into slavery, starvation, and mass-murder EVERY SINGLE TIME?
Oh? And how many communist countries have done this recently? And if you're willing to bring up stuff that happened decades ago, it is perfectly fair to do the same for capitalist democracies - colonialism, slavery, Japanese internment, slaughter of native americans, and so on and so on.
Ya think?
Maybe you should take a history course and try it sometime.
It's not just the left that's pissed off at this you twit. Many in Bush's own party are outraged over this.
Pissed off enough to do anything about it? Or only enough to hem and haw on Monday the 26th, disavow his actions, and go back to being loyal cheerleaders on tuesday?
There are a couple of nice timelines (no I don't feel like looking for them) that shows the Administration does this as standard operating proceedure. Bad news is released late on Friday, so it has the weekend to cool down. Or they try and cover up bad news with other news, like the nominations of Supreme Court justices.
That Bush failed to win the popular vote in 2000 means he stole the election.
No. It has to do with the fact that more people voted for Gore in Florida as well as the country as a whole. If there had been a complete statewide recount, we'd have a differenet president today.
He has a lot of influence sure, but the gears of our bureaucracies can't be stopped or slowed by just one man in most cases.
What are you talking about? This happened because the NSA is under the Executive branch and because Bush signed an executive order directing the NSA to do so.
The original idea of the 3 branches of government was a good one for its time, but it is much less applicable in our era.
I don't think you could find a BETTER modern example of why we need three branches of government. This kind of executive abuse is exactly why we have courts to strike down his shenanigans and Congress to impeach him.
I've been around Slashdot long enough to know better.
A downright oldtimer, from your UID.
And nothing was wrong with my metaphor. Of course it's crazy to complain about the Xbox not playing PS2 games, but it's equally crazy to claim that Apple is in the wrong for not supporting Real's online store.
Are you honestly trying to say that Iraq was BETTER before we invaded?
Yes, it was. The country wasn't at risk for civil war, civilian deaths would have been far worse and Iraq wouldn't be the hotbed of terrorism that it is today. What a lot of people don't understand is that while Saddam was a bad guy, things can always be worse. Stalin was worse than Hitler. The Taliban were worse than the communists we helped drive out of Afganistan. And the Iraqi civilians are worse off today than they were under Saddam.
Nature of the right-wing is leave it to the people.
Except for the Patriot Act, gay marriage and "indecency on the airwaves". On the last one, sure there's Liberman and Hillary, but 1) those two are right wing, and 2) are vastly outnumbered by luddites even farther to the right than they are.
Republicans tax and regulate things they don't like, just like Democrats. But at least Democrats generally aren't two-faced hypocrites about it.
the reason the Liberals has such a landslide victory was because the Labour party was too concerned with bickering and backstabbing amongst themselves to launch a credible campaign
Wow, sounds just like the Democrats here in the U.S. In the last election, they should have been able to put a garden rake in a race against Bush, and won handily with a moderatly competent campaign. Sometimes I wonder if they aren't bribed to be so spinless and incompetent, like how the White Sox were bribed to throw the World Series.
There was a swear filter developed for Counter-Strike that had some side effects like that. You couldn't say "I had good competition earlier today in Japan" because "tit", "lier" and "jap" were blocked.
IBM loses whiny Apple
So when you make a promise to someone and then break it, and they complain, are they whining? IBM promised Apple they'd have 3 ghz chips within a year...two years ago. Apple still hasn't gotten them, nor have they gotten a mobile G5. Or when Motorola promised Apple 500 mhz chips and couldn't deliver, so Apple had to knock the whole PowerMac line down by 50 mhz.
while gaining XBox 360 and PS3, which will not only ship far more units than Apple over the next five years
Lots of people harp on this but they miss the point. All the parts for a console have to be cheap, and something Apple has never been is "cheap". The profit margin on an expensive dual core G5 would be higher than on multiple console PPC's. And while yes IBM is going to be making a good pile of cash from Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo, making chips for a static platform isn't going to further longterm development. The Cells produced two years from now will be the same as the ones used today, but what are desktop chips going to look like?
I LOVE this way people try to wriggle out of the fact that they're freeloaders.
I would love it if people who bitched about "freeloaders" considered how much consumer debt the average "freeloader" probably has, because downloading stuff online is only free if your time is worthless.
P2P isn't about "free", it's about convienience. It's more convienient to download stuff over bittorrent than it is to work 100 hours a week to actually pay for all the stuff you are getting.
The anti-Microsoft rhetoric here gets really tiresome
Could be worse, could be a knee-jerk Microsoft appologist.
Of course Microsoft forces their products and upgrades on people, it's what their entire business is based on. Want to keep your OEM discount? Better not install Netscape, or they'll cut your discount and your compeditors will destroy you. Want to play games on your computer? Had to upgrade from 2k to XP to get DirectX. Why is each version of Office not quite backwards compatible? So you'll be forced to upgrade to make sure you can handle all your clients files.
Sure, there are worse companies out there. Monsato comes to mind. But they're still pretty damn bad.
Since those "licenses" come up after the purchase is already made, they aren't fit to be so much as toilet paper.
But don't fuck up the system and waste everyone's time by making the government *force* them to do something they ordinarily wouldn't do.
But that's just the point: supporting these devices is something they have ordinarily done. If they weren't supporting a new device, like Blue Ray or HD-DVD, you'd have a good point, but that's not what they are doing. They are specifically removing functionality in hardware you've already purchased.
Why should the United States Government care about what you can or cannot do with a dvd you bought in another country?
Because they're the ones who made it illegal to bypass the restrictions, that's why.
Still shouldn't be a problem. I've seen DVD shrink used to rip the Japanese version of LOTR:FOTR with no problems, and this was two years ago. It complained about having to "brute force" the decryption but turned out just peachy.
Ah, yes. The old "but that wasn't REAL communism" red herring.
But there has never been a pure laissez faire capitalist state, so your point is stupid.
Why does it devolve into slavery, starvation, and mass-murder EVERY SINGLE TIME?
Oh? And how many communist countries have done this recently? And if you're willing to bring up stuff that happened decades ago, it is perfectly fair to do the same for capitalist democracies - colonialism, slavery, Japanese internment, slaughter of native americans, and so on and so on.
Ya think?
Maybe you should take a history course and try it sometime.
I'm sure they did, back in the day. Having phones with speed dials and built in answering machines would make that a bit more difficult.
Nope, he's right, it is trivial to do. Cringley had a nice article on it a while back.
Spitzer has also left a nasty trail of ruined careers and financial losses in some of his misguided crusades.
And which ones would those be?
It's not just the left that's pissed off at this you twit. Many in Bush's own party are outraged over this.
Pissed off enough to do anything about it? Or only enough to hem and haw on Monday the 26th, disavow his actions, and go back to being loyal cheerleaders on tuesday?
There are a couple of nice timelines (no I don't feel like looking for them) that shows the Administration does this as standard operating proceedure. Bad news is released late on Friday, so it has the weekend to cool down. Or they try and cover up bad news with other news, like the nominations of Supreme Court justices.
That Bush failed to win the popular vote in 2000 means he stole the election.
No. It has to do with the fact that more people voted for Gore in Florida as well as the country as a whole. If there had been a complete statewide recount, we'd have a differenet president today.
Sorry that you're mentally ill. : (
Says you.
He has a lot of influence sure, but the gears of our bureaucracies can't be stopped or slowed by just one man in most cases.
What are you talking about? This happened because the NSA is under the Executive branch and because Bush signed an executive order directing the NSA to do so.
The original idea of the 3 branches of government was a good one for its time, but it is much less applicable in our era.
I don't think you could find a BETTER modern example of why we need three branches of government. This kind of executive abuse is exactly why we have courts to strike down his shenanigans and Congress to impeach him.
Of the origional anyway. The sequels pretty much suck.
I've been around Slashdot long enough to know better.
A downright oldtimer, from your UID.
And nothing was wrong with my metaphor. Of course it's crazy to complain about the Xbox not playing PS2 games, but it's equally crazy to claim that Apple is in the wrong for not supporting Real's online store.
Are you honestly trying to say that Iraq was BETTER before we invaded?
Yes, it was. The country wasn't at risk for civil war, civilian deaths would have been far worse and Iraq wouldn't be the hotbed of terrorism that it is today. What a lot of people don't understand is that while Saddam was a bad guy, things can always be worse. Stalin was worse than Hitler. The Taliban were worse than the communists we helped drive out of Afganistan. And the Iraqi civilians are worse off today than they were under Saddam.
Nature of the right-wing is leave it to the people.
Except for the Patriot Act, gay marriage and "indecency on the airwaves". On the last one, sure there's Liberman and Hillary, but 1) those two are right wing, and 2) are vastly outnumbered by luddites even farther to the right than they are.
Republicans tax and regulate things they don't like, just like Democrats. But at least Democrats generally aren't two-faced hypocrites about it.
Because it's not Rhapsody's fault that Apple won't license their DRM technology.
So do you also get pissy when PS2 games wont play in your Xbox?
Linus, every time I copy large files between devices on my Linux system my mouse pointer skips. It works fine on my Mac
Yeah, but you'll sit there for over 20 minutes just trying to copy a 17 meg file across a network!
the reason the Liberals has such a landslide victory was because the Labour party was too concerned with bickering and backstabbing amongst themselves to launch a credible campaign
Wow, sounds just like the Democrats here in the U.S. In the last election, they should have been able to put a garden rake in a race against Bush, and won handily with a moderatly competent campaign. Sometimes I wonder if they aren't bribed to be so spinless and incompetent, like how the White Sox were bribed to throw the World Series.
There was a swear filter developed for Counter-Strike that had some side effects like that. You couldn't say "I had good competition earlier today in Japan" because "tit", "lier" and "jap" were blocked.
However, I could make a case about my right to not have my taxes fund the ability to browse rooster porn on a public terminal at a library.
Then don't do it. But I pay taxes as well, so if I want to use my taxes to browse porn at the library, it's my own business.
I wonder if you'd have the same opinion if the same disaster with the same results had happened when Clinton was president.