I'd suspect he has a direct line to the people responsible for security issues with the various OS products.
Why would he have anything of the sort? Why should Apple give a steaming turd who this person is?
And keep in mind, here, that the quote wasn't, "They didn't know of any plans," it was "they weren't going to." It's possible that Goldsmith misunderstood what he was told or exaggerated what he was told
Uh, then maybe people could have waited until an official press release from Apple, rather than taking second hand information and announcing it as fact?
However, none of this changes the fact that Apple initially planned not to backport the fixes to Jaguar.
Bzzt! That is just speculation. Don't be an asshat.
Apple zealots can stop trying to rewrite history after the fact.
Oh, as opposed to the bizzo's like you who make up history and report it as fact?
Note that the government didn't mandate anything about CD's, VCR's, or DVD's and those technologies did just fine because they had advantages that people wanted.
Sure, CD's and VCR's did just fine, eventually....DVD's are still getting there yet. We had the Sony/Betamax war, the dozen or so different CD formats, and now the DVD+/-R sillyness. I'm not saying it wont work out, I'm saying we'd avoid a lot of hassle if the gvt leaned on these guys to pick a standard.
Digital and HDTV's are a perfect example of when the government sticking its nose in something is a *good* idea. If the gvt had smacked some heads together and made the industry come up with a standard, we'd all have affordable HDTV's by now.
Instead, with this "let the industry decide" crap, we've had dozen's of different standards for HDTV floating around. Consumers don't want to buy them as they don't want to have to have their tv become a useless, $4,000 boulder in a couple years because the standard they got with their set didn't become *the* standard. If consumers don't commit, the manufacturers aren't going to commit to large , which leads to high prices. And because prices are high and standards are different, consumers aren't going to want to commit.....
Whereas if the the government had forced the industry to come up with a standard, manufacturers and consumers would be better off because there was only one standard to worry about. Right now consumers would have low cost sets, and the manufactures would be in boom from people upgrading their old tv's, much as the recording industry went through a boom as people upgraded their vinyl and cassette collections to CD, same as the movie industry is going through now with people upgrading their video collections to DVD.
You've misunderstood the situation -- they have refused to honor the conventions of war
If the US gov was honoring the conventions of war, we'd be treating the Taliban as POW's, rather than inventing some term for them and locking them up indefinetly.
They have no country.
Sure they do: Afganistan.
They have no rights.
Why not? Just because they aren't US citizens? What ever happened to "inaliable rights"?
They are lucky that they are alive. If we sent down soldiers to line them up and execute them all, we would be justified. They are not spies, they are not soldiers. They are terrorists, sent to attack a country in peacetime, and not the country's military, but the country's citizenry.
Alright, just who the hell are you talking about here? If you're talking about the Taliban, they didn't have anything to do with 9/11. If you're talking about Al Queda, they'd probably say you deserve a bullet in the head for giving billions in military and economic aid to Isreal, who are illegally occupying lands in the West Bank and the Gaza strip.
Next time some guy decides to pretend he is a friend, comes to your house, and blows your wife, children, and parents to smithereens, laughing all the way to the bank, threatening to do it again and again and again, I'd like to see you say, "Well, they have rights, and should get a fair trial." They don't get a trial, they get a bullet to the forehead, and that is if we are being humane.
Uh huh. Lets throw your ass in a room with some Iraqi civilians who've lost friends and family to US weapons in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. You sound like one of those morons who can't understand why a 12 year old Iraqi boy, who's entire family has been killed by a wayward US bomb, isn't grateful to President Bush for "freeing" him from Saddam.
An honorable country would not pack 19 men onto airplanes to crash into civilian buildings, trapping the people inside to choose between a burning hell or a jump to certain death.
The people in Guantanamo are from Afganistan (and probably now Iraq). The people who hijacked the planes were from Saudi Arabia. Iraq and Afganistan: invaded. Saudi Arabia: not invaded.
Dumbass.
Yes, I DO question your patriotism, because it seems like you sure as hell don't love what our country stands for.
Uh huh. It also seems that you have no grip on reality, dumbass. But thats okay, this is a free country, and you are feel to free to wave a flag while sitting on your ass and call yourself a patriot, blindly believing whatever Karl Rove tells you.
The heck it is. The one and only thing XP does faster than 2K is let you log in (negligibly) faster, and thats only because it launches stuff in the background as you log in.
It might be legal to fish it out of the trash, but it is ludicrous to suggest that whoever does so has the right to do whatever they want with what was thrown away. If that were the case it would be legal for me to take your discarded credit card and bank statements and started selling your personal information.
Not really. It onlys seems to because XP lets you log in sooner while its still launching stuff in the background. By the time XP is done thrashing the disk and is responsive, you could have been up in 2k in the same time or less.
You need an OS... which was my point - it's the OS that's telling you the drive is a 76 GB drive. Not the CPU, not the RAM, not your graphics card, not the power supply. Not even, dare I say, the hard drive. It's the operating system that is computing it in a different way.
So? Dell and Apple computer are advertizing it as having one capacity, but once you've paid money for it the Dell or Apple computer tells you something else. They tell you that its once capacity when they're trying to get you to buy it and another once you've paid for it. Sounds like Bait and Switch to me.
It's only misleading advertising if you don't know what the numbers mean.
What about Mom and Pop who don't know what those numbers mean? Does the fact that a minority of us knows about their shenanigans mean that its okay for them to do it to those who don't know? How would you like it if people in other industries blew off complaints because they had the expertise you did not to spot something like this?
By the same token, we should be suing car manufacturers for the MPG ratings that don't take into account underpressure tires or varying speed.
Thats not a good analogy because innumberable factors influence gas millage: tire pressure, road conditions, wind, traffic, number of stops, etc. The amount that hard drive companies overstate their capacity by is constant.
False advertising, right? No. And neither is this.
Let me ask you this: what if once of your friends constantly tried to lie or mislead you. Does the fact that you're smart enough to catch on excuse the fact that he's trying to mislead you all the time? I doubt it. If your friend couldn't get away with it, why should companies be able to?
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Bring on the flames.
Okie dokie.
It has been proven time and again that individuals with a perverse interst in children are uncurable.
So? Alcoholics are incurable as well, does that meant that they should be treated like scum for the rest of their lives? Pedophiles are sick people who need help. Irrational fear and hatred isn't going to help anyone.
Anyone thinking otherwise almost certainly doesn't have children. You can't possibly understand.
Bzzt, wrong. That means I can be impartial. This is why we have jury selection, so we can have an unbaised jury. Also, our society is fucked up because one group of people can commit pedophelia and get away with it scott free. What group is that, you say? Women. If a 30 year old man has sex with a 14 year old girl, people make jokes about how he better not drop his bar of soap in the prison showers. A 30 year old women has sex with a 14 year old boy, she doesn't get any jail time and the boy doens't recieve any treatment.
When it is proven beyond doubt, I say slit their throats and relieve taxpayers of their sorry existence.
This is what deep-sixes your argument - plenty of people who have been convicted "beyond doubt" of rape have later been cleared by DNA evidence. Sometimes the victums are mistaken, sometimes the police go after the wrong person, and sometimes the "victum" is lying. To paraphrase Gonzo Kid: if we slit the throats of pedophiles, shouldn't we also slit the throats of false accusers? Can we use the same knive? Do we have to clean it?
So AC, how are you going to feel if you suddenly find out that someone you've spent years persecuting is actually innocent? How are you going to like it if you and a party of parents lynch a teacher accused of having sex with a student - and it later turns out the student was lying?
Oh yes, people in the UK are totally irrational to think that this would ever happen. I mean, the government has already placed cameras everywhere to "watch for criminals". They'd certainaly stop there, wouldn't they? Especially since those hysterically shreaking "protect the women and children" have never had any political clout whatsoever.
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After all, we've already decided to lock up murderers...
Locking them up, yes. Keep punishing them after they are released and monitoring their exact geographical location, no.
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So, I am supposed to feel scared because the government is employing know technology to keep an eye on these "people"?
Whats to stop them from expanding it to other offenses once this is widely accepted? And there are plenty of ways to *make* volunteers: "you can either wear this tag or rot in jail another ten years. Whats that you say? You'll be happy to wear it? Look everyone, another volunteer!"
Frankly, these perverts are lucky they have any freedom.
The point of a prison sentense is that you finish it and then you're done. Not that you serve your time and continue to be punished after you're released.
Concern about well being of a fellow human is fine, allowing it to cloud your judgement isn't.
Your eagerness to punish these people is clouding your judgement. Has it occured to you that plenty of innocent people are convicted of this crime? And the overwhelming stigma attached to a charge of pedophelia almost certainaly destroys your life, even if you are found innocent at the trial.
No Linux viruses because the script kiddies aren't going to bother with 0.0001% of the computers out there. What's the fucking point?
It wouldn't matter if Linux or Apple had 100% of the computer market, they still wouldn't have anything touching Microsoft's security problems. Microsoft has always put features ahead of security, they've made an architecture that can be heavily damaged by viruses (ie you can run a malicious program on your Linux box, but unless you're stupid enough to do it as root you will only damage your own files, not other people's or system files) and they shipped their os's with a lot of services turned on by default. There might be bugs in the versions of apache, ssh and samba that come with a Mac, but they're all turned off by default.
And it's the OS and software designers that are wrong!
Huh, maybe thats why they are suing *computer* manufacturers rather than *hard drive* manufacturers. You buy a new computer with an 80 gig drive, but when you plug it in it says you only have 76 gigs. If the computer measured storage in digital notation, everything would be cool. But they don't so its not, which means these guys are pulling a bait and switch or false advertizing, or both.
They should be using the KiB notation.
This shouldn't fly, either. The only reason they came up with that is so it looks similar to the regular computer notation. So again, misleading advertizing.
The reason companies pull this crap is because they think they can get away with it. And because a lot of people have been sold red herrings and urban legends of "frivolous lawsuits", they do get away with it.
...doesn't mean that the rest of the population does. Look, these people are lying about the capacity of their hard drives - and you think thats ok? Why? If the fine isn't big enough for false advertizing and faulty products, companies will just write it off as a business expense and keep doing their amature proctology on the ass of the consumer.
Firstly, if our system of free speech relies upon rich liberals, we're all screwed. Rich liberals are the ones we have to thank for the "Parental Advisory" stamps that wal-mart and friends use as a binary indicator for deciding which albums are good enough quality to sell.
That would be two rich liberals, Tipper and Liberman, but Bill Bennett (*not* a liberal) more than makes up for the two of them combined. Failing that, there was Bush Sr, Bob Dole, Pat Buchannan, etc etc.
Since when did Bush commit perjury? Bush has not committed any impeachable offense... or any crime of any kind while in office.
Oh? How are you so sure? All things being fair, we should find a judge that dislikes Bush, give him unlimited money, unlimited resources and unlimited time to investigate every last inch of Bush's life, looking for the smallest signs of wrongdoing. If, $60 million dollars of taxpayer money later, the worst thing we did up on Bush is a consensual affair, I would be amazed.
You don't think that their wouldn't be waves of leftists screaming for Bush's head (like there isn't already), if he committed some offense? Puh-Lease.
You also don't see your so called leftists calling for congressional hearings on Bush if he so much as farts in an elevator. What is sad is that the GOP has shifted so far off the deep end to the right, that someone who was conservative 10 years ago would now be considered liberal.
So no, as far as haterizing (thank you, Theodore Long) goes, liberals still can't touch conservatives.
Sure thats true, but if 1 out of 100 Nader voters had voted for Gore in Florida, we'd have a different president right now. So he got screwed both ways.
Oh? Then why don't you start naming politicans who have said and done as much to support the environment as Gore. Cynically blowing him off just because he's a politican is just laziness.
Oh, sure there wouldn't have been a difference, riiight. Lets see: no war on the environment, workers rights and pollution standards. We wouldn't bee looking at a half a trillion dollar defecit, we wouldn't be bankrupting this country, and we wouldn't be sucked into a quagmire of our own making (Iraq). And Gore probably wouldn't be pushing things like the Patriot Acts and locking people in prison indefinetly just by calling them an "enemy combatant".
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I'd suspect he has a direct line to the people responsible for security issues with the various OS products.
Why would he have anything of the sort? Why should Apple give a steaming turd who this person is?
And keep in mind, here, that the quote wasn't, "They didn't know of any plans," it was "they weren't going to." It's possible that Goldsmith misunderstood what he was told or exaggerated what he was told
Uh, then maybe people could have waited until an official press release from Apple, rather than taking second hand information and announcing it as fact?
However, none of this changes the fact that Apple initially planned not to backport the fixes to Jaguar.
Bzzt! That is just speculation. Don't be an asshat.
Apple zealots can stop trying to rewrite history after the fact.
Oh, as opposed to the bizzo's like you who make up history and report it as fact?
Note that the government didn't mandate anything about CD's, VCR's, or DVD's and those technologies did just fine because they had advantages that people wanted.
Sure, CD's and VCR's did just fine, eventually....DVD's are still getting there yet. We had the Sony/Betamax war, the dozen or so different CD formats, and now the DVD+/-R sillyness. I'm not saying it wont work out, I'm saying we'd avoid a lot of hassle if the gvt leaned on these guys to pick a standard.
Digital and HDTV's are a perfect example of when the government sticking its nose in something is a *good* idea. If the gvt had smacked some heads together and made the industry come up with a standard, we'd all have affordable HDTV's by now.
Instead, with this "let the industry decide" crap, we've had dozen's of different standards for HDTV floating around. Consumers don't want to buy them as they don't want to have to have their tv become a useless, $4,000 boulder in a couple years because the standard they got with their set didn't become *the* standard. If consumers don't commit, the manufacturers aren't going to commit to large , which leads to high prices. And because prices are high and standards are different, consumers aren't going to want to commit.....
Whereas if the the government had forced the industry to come up with a standard, manufacturers and consumers would be better off because there was only one standard to worry about. Right now consumers would have low cost sets, and the manufactures would be in boom from people upgrading their old tv's, much as the recording industry went through a boom as people upgraded their vinyl and cassette collections to CD, same as the movie industry is going through now with people upgrading their video collections to DVD.
You've misunderstood the situation -- they have refused to honor the conventions of war
If the US gov was honoring the conventions of war, we'd be treating the Taliban as POW's, rather than inventing some term for them and locking them up indefinetly.
They have no country.
Sure they do: Afganistan.
They have no rights.
Why not? Just because they aren't US citizens? What ever happened to "inaliable rights"?
They are lucky that they are alive. If we sent down soldiers to line them up and execute them all, we would be justified. They are not spies, they are not soldiers. They are terrorists, sent to attack a country in peacetime, and not the country's military, but the country's citizenry.
Alright, just who the hell are you talking about here? If you're talking about the Taliban, they didn't have anything to do with 9/11. If you're talking about Al Queda, they'd probably say you deserve a bullet in the head for giving billions in military and economic aid to Isreal, who are illegally occupying lands in the West Bank and the Gaza strip.
Next time some guy decides to pretend he is a friend, comes to your house, and blows your wife, children, and parents to smithereens, laughing all the way to the bank, threatening to do it again and again and again, I'd like to see you say, "Well, they have rights, and should get a fair trial." They don't get a trial, they get a bullet to the forehead, and that is if we are being humane.
Uh huh. Lets throw your ass in a room with some Iraqi civilians who've lost friends and family to US weapons in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. You sound like one of those morons who can't understand why a 12 year old Iraqi boy, who's entire family has been killed by a wayward US bomb, isn't grateful to President Bush for "freeing" him from Saddam.
An honorable country would not pack 19 men onto airplanes to crash into civilian buildings, trapping the people inside to choose between a burning hell or a jump to certain death.
The people in Guantanamo are from Afganistan (and probably now Iraq). The people who hijacked the planes were from Saudi Arabia. Iraq and Afganistan: invaded. Saudi Arabia: not invaded.
Dumbass.
Yes, I DO question your patriotism, because it seems like you sure as hell don't love what our country stands for.
Uh huh. It also seems that you have no grip on reality, dumbass. But thats okay, this is a free country, and you are feel to free to wave a flag while sitting on your ass and call yourself a patriot, blindly believing whatever Karl Rove tells you.
Dumbass.
Did you miss the part where Amazon has a patent on one click shopping?
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IF Apple moves quickly to the G5, your vaunted resale value is going to go to crap.
Bzzt. Mac's have always had better resale value than pc's, even during that period where Mac's were faster than PC's in raw mhz.
- Windows XP was much faster than Windows 2000
The heck it is. The one and only thing XP does faster than 2K is let you log in (negligibly) faster, and thats only because it launches stuff in the background as you log in.
It might be legal to fish it out of the trash, but it is ludicrous to suggest that whoever does so has the right to do whatever they want with what was thrown away. If that were the case it would be legal for me to take your discarded credit card and bank statements and started selling your personal information.
but XP boots several times faster than 2000
Not really. It onlys seems to because XP lets you log in sooner while its still launching stuff in the background. By the time XP is done thrashing the disk and is responsive, you could have been up in 2k in the same time or less.
Suing thieves
That would be infringers, not thieves. To be a thief you have steal something, and these people aren't stealing, they're infringing.
You need an OS... which was my point - it's the OS that's telling you the drive is a 76 GB drive. Not the CPU, not the RAM, not your graphics card, not the power supply. Not even, dare I say, the hard drive. It's the operating system that is computing it in a different way.
So? Dell and Apple computer are advertizing it as having one capacity, but once you've paid money for it the Dell or Apple computer tells you something else. They tell you that its once capacity when they're trying to get you to buy it and another once you've paid for it. Sounds like Bait and Switch to me.
It's only misleading advertising if you don't know what the numbers mean.
What about Mom and Pop who don't know what those numbers mean? Does the fact that a minority of us knows about their shenanigans mean that its okay for them to do it to those who don't know? How would you like it if people in other industries blew off complaints because they had the expertise you did not to spot something like this?
By the same token, we should be suing car manufacturers for the MPG ratings that don't take into account underpressure tires or varying speed.
Thats not a good analogy because innumberable factors influence gas millage: tire pressure, road conditions, wind, traffic, number of stops, etc. The amount that hard drive companies overstate their capacity by is constant.
False advertising, right? No. And neither is this.
Let me ask you this: what if once of your friends constantly tried to lie or mislead you. Does the fact that you're smart enough to catch on excuse the fact that he's trying to mislead you all the time? I doubt it. If your friend couldn't get away with it, why should companies be able to?
Bring on the flames.
Okie dokie.
It has been proven time and again that individuals with a perverse interst in children are uncurable.
So? Alcoholics are incurable as well, does that meant that they should be treated like scum for the rest of their lives? Pedophiles are sick people who need help. Irrational fear and hatred isn't going to help anyone.
Anyone thinking otherwise almost certainly doesn't have children. You can't possibly understand.
Bzzt, wrong. That means I can be impartial. This is why we have jury selection, so we can have an unbaised jury. Also, our society is fucked up because one group of people can commit pedophelia and get away with it scott free. What group is that, you say? Women. If a 30 year old man has sex with a 14 year old girl, people make jokes about how he better not drop his bar of soap in the prison showers. A 30 year old women has sex with a 14 year old boy, she doesn't get any jail time and the boy doens't recieve any treatment.
When it is proven beyond doubt, I say slit their throats and relieve taxpayers of their sorry existence.
This is what deep-sixes your argument - plenty of people who have been convicted "beyond doubt" of rape have later been cleared by DNA evidence. Sometimes the victums are mistaken, sometimes the police go after the wrong person, and sometimes the "victum" is lying. To paraphrase Gonzo Kid: if we slit the throats of pedophiles, shouldn't we also slit the throats of false accusers? Can we use the same knive? Do we have to clean it?
So AC, how are you going to feel if you suddenly find out that someone you've spent years persecuting is actually innocent? How are you going to like it if you and a party of parents lynch a teacher accused of having sex with a student - and it later turns out the student was lying?
Oh yes, people in the UK are totally irrational to think that this would ever happen. I mean, the government has already placed cameras everywhere to "watch for criminals". They'd certainaly stop there, wouldn't they? Especially since those hysterically shreaking "protect the women and children" have never had any political clout whatsoever.
After all, we've already decided to lock up murderers...
Locking them up, yes. Keep punishing them after they are released and monitoring their exact geographical location, no.
So, I am supposed to feel scared because the government is employing know technology to keep an eye on these "people"?
Whats to stop them from expanding it to other offenses once this is widely accepted? And there are plenty of ways to *make* volunteers: "you can either wear this tag or rot in jail another ten years. Whats that you say? You'll be happy to wear it? Look everyone, another volunteer!"
Frankly, these perverts are lucky they have any freedom.
The point of a prison sentense is that you finish it and then you're done. Not that you serve your time and continue to be punished after you're released.
Concern about well being of a fellow human is fine, allowing it to cloud your judgement isn't.
Your eagerness to punish these people is clouding your judgement. Has it occured to you that plenty of innocent people are convicted of this crime? And the overwhelming stigma attached to a charge of pedophelia almost certainaly destroys your life, even if you are found innocent at the trial.
No Linux viruses because the script kiddies aren't going to bother with 0.0001% of the computers out there. What's the fucking point?
It wouldn't matter if Linux or Apple had 100% of the computer market, they still wouldn't have anything touching Microsoft's security problems. Microsoft has always put features ahead of security, they've made an architecture that can be heavily damaged by viruses (ie you can run a malicious program on your Linux box, but unless you're stupid enough to do it as root you will only damage your own files, not other people's or system files) and they shipped their os's with a lot of services turned on by default. There might be bugs in the versions of apache, ssh and samba that come with a Mac, but they're all turned off by default.
And it's the OS and software designers that are wrong!
Huh, maybe thats why they are suing *computer* manufacturers rather than *hard drive* manufacturers. You buy a new computer with an 80 gig drive, but when you plug it in it says you only have 76 gigs. If the computer measured storage in digital notation, everything would be cool. But they don't so its not, which means these guys are pulling a bait and switch or false advertizing, or both.
They should be using the KiB notation.
This shouldn't fly, either. The only reason they came up with that is so it looks similar to the regular computer notation. So again, misleading advertizing.
The reason companies pull this crap is because they think they can get away with it. And because a lot of people have been sold red herrings and urban legends of "frivolous lawsuits", they do get away with it.
...doesn't mean that the rest of the population does. Look, these people are lying about the capacity of their hard drives - and you think thats ok? Why? If the fine isn't big enough for false advertizing and faulty products, companies will just write it off as a business expense and keep doing their amature proctology on the ass of the consumer.
Firstly, if our system of free speech relies upon rich liberals, we're all screwed. Rich liberals are the ones we have to thank for the "Parental Advisory" stamps that wal-mart and friends use as a binary indicator for deciding which albums are good enough quality to sell.
That would be two rich liberals, Tipper and Liberman, but Bill Bennett (*not* a liberal) more than makes up for the two of them combined. Failing that, there was Bush Sr, Bob Dole, Pat Buchannan, etc etc.
Besides, other countries that have multi-party political systems, like Italy and Isreal, don't have one iota less corruption than we do in the states.
Since when did Bush commit perjury? Bush has not committed any impeachable offense... or any crime of any kind while in office.
Oh? How are you so sure? All things being fair, we should find a judge that dislikes Bush, give him unlimited money, unlimited resources and unlimited time to investigate every last inch of Bush's life, looking for the smallest signs of wrongdoing. If, $60 million dollars of taxpayer money later, the worst thing we did up on Bush is a consensual affair, I would be amazed.
You don't think that their wouldn't be waves of leftists screaming for Bush's head (like there isn't already), if he committed some offense? Puh-Lease.
You also don't see your so called leftists calling for congressional hearings on Bush if he so much as farts in an elevator. What is sad is that the GOP has shifted so far off the deep end to the right, that someone who was conservative 10 years ago would now be considered liberal.
So no, as far as haterizing (thank you, Theodore Long) goes, liberals still can't touch conservatives.
Sure thats true, but if 1 out of 100 Nader voters had voted for Gore in Florida, we'd have a different president right now. So he got screwed both ways.
Oh? Then why don't you start naming politicans who have said and done as much to support the environment as Gore. Cynically blowing him off just because he's a politican is just laziness.
Oh, sure there wouldn't have been a difference, riiight. Lets see: no war on the environment, workers rights and pollution standards. We wouldn't bee looking at a half a trillion dollar defecit, we wouldn't be bankrupting this country, and we wouldn't be sucked into a quagmire of our own making (Iraq). And Gore probably wouldn't be pushing things like the Patriot Acts and locking people in prison indefinetly just by calling them an "enemy combatant".