You may have misunderstood me a little bit there. I meant that as an example of how the community, and their direct role models, should be involved in resolving any and all situations right up until there is absolutely no choice but to involve authorities because a more severe crime has been committed.
However, a little fear is healthy. Those incidents I spoke of, happened only a few times when things went way past out of hand. However the reimainder student body respected him because he wouldn't back down. However enlightened and intelligent you think we've become, we're still animals at a basic level. Pack mentality still rules. This is reflected in very nearly everything we do, and ignoring it is not going to work.
He's a good teacher, kind, and well respected. I can see how you got the wrong impression from my post, but you should understand that these things DO have a place.
As for your second bit:
"Seriously though, shouldn't we be teaching kids to make their own decisions and form their own opinions of what is right and wrong? Wouldn't that lead to a more productive society where we could actively question and debate moral issues and consequences?"
Sure, I'd love to do that. In fact some of the best classes I had in school the teachers opened up discussions on this sort of thing and we would debate it back and forth. However, even in those classes, you could see some people couldn't reason it out for themselves. They generally lacked the mental capacity(no, not everyone is created equal, saying that they are is bullshit). Exceptions were there for kids with poor home lives, etc of course. For these people, they often end up deviating from the things that everyone else just "knows is wrong", because they don't know. It is for them that the community needs to step in, and step up, to teach them some basic morals.
You're talking in absolutes. You're also wrong because of that, even though you bring up some good points. I may have been a little too absolute but I was trying to refrain from writing an essay to cover the intricacies.
I'm beginning to think I should write something, wait 12 hours, and read it again before I post it.
Yes, you were too absolute. I agree with what you have now said. I just reacted that way because there are way too many things that are ending up in the hands of the police, and teachers/parents are shirking way too many of their responsibilities. In many cases its societies, and some new law's fault, however.... The kids are losing respect for their teachers, because the teachers pawned the responsibility off to someone else, their parents, for the same reason, and the police, because they generally get off with a slap on the wrist and a stern lecture and thats what they then think will always happen(sadly in many cases they are correct).
Seriously? Disorderly conduct charges the Most Appropriate Response?
Jesus christ, how much responsibility has to be completely removed from parents and from the community before people will be happy? This is a LOCAL, SCHOOL/COMMUNITY issue, and should be handled as such. Sending the cops in for something stupid like this sends exactly the wrong message. It sends the "Do exactly as we tell you or we'll send the jackboots in after you" message. The kids will not respect it, or you.
The kids know they can get away with anything up to the point where you call the fscking police. This is happening in schools everywhere, and is a major problem. Capital punishment in schools was abused, but was 95% effective. For the other 5% there are nowadays more than enough protections and general oversight to eliminate that.
One of my close relatives is a career school teacher/principal. He has in his day punched out high school students, hung them partway off balconies and forced them into manual labor during school hours as punishment. You know what his school never produced under his watch? A criminal. You know how many times law enforcement was ever even contacted by the school under his watch? Zero.
Do you know how many students that got hit, hung off balconies and forced to work thanked him for it eventually? All of them. One eventually did end up in jail for a relatively minor offense, 15 years or so later after he fell on hard times. After he got out he was talking to someone and said "You know the first thing I thought when I got caught? Fuck, he's going to kill me."
Yes, 15 years later, the biggest deterrent was still a man that could no longer even feasibly do anything to him if he didn't wish it. THIS is what is missing from the younger generations. I know it, I'm part of it. The difference is, I at least had it at home, and I'm very thankful for that.
Its very easy to see this happening all the time. Its been happening over the last 10 years or so with all those new-fangled anti-depressants. You can get the brand name one in capsule form or the Generic out of patent one in pill form.
I forget the two it was, but I had a shill doctor prescribe the first one and then a real doctor prescribe the cheaper, same effectiveness, generic.
Sin was a monster summoned by that super powerful summoner guy you kill at the end. The summoner gave his whole being over to the summoning of the city that Tidus came from, and Sin was the protection that he built for himself. Tidus really was just a dream, of sorts. He was a part of the massive city that the super powerful summoner guy was summoning into existence to preserve it after it was completely destroyed in a war a thousand years prior to the time that the actual events of FFX took place. However, just as Sin, and the other Aeons that could be summoned had some free-will of their own, so did the residents of the city. The residents lived for a thousand years in isolation, thus they created first Jecht, and then Tidus in a plot to end their own existence. Since Tidus and Jecht were part of the summoning of the city, when the summoner that was maintaining said city died, Tidus went with him.
That plot I could understand fine in FFX. Even if there were a couple of spots that made you tilt your head in confusion, it usually cleared those up somewhere, and the game was fun. The problem with FFXIII is there isn't ANY information. Theres no explanation as to who anyone is for the most part, its like you're expected to just know. Theres not even any help in the blurbs in the manual, and as I said, taping the controller down is an effective method of progressing through the battles in the game.
Seriously? I'm still not sure what the plot was. I'm a huge fan of FF games, and I own every single one, a couple of them multiple times.... and I have to say, FF XIII was a complete load of crap. Top to bottom.
I played for 4 hours. I subjected myself to that game for FOUR HOURS. I was trying, very hard, to like it, but.... 4 hours in, the combat system STILL felt like I was wading through that 1 or 2 turn tutorial in some of their other games. It was like "WTF, let me play already". Instead I could probably have taped down my A button and control stick to beat the stupid game.
They dumbed it down way way too far in a scenario that already needed no dumbing down.
I'll admit the plot line to that point was very linear/hallway-ish however I could have probably still played through the game if it didn't just suck great big sweaty balls, top to bottom. The only single good thing about it were the graphics, and even those I personally didn't like some of the art style choices.
Anyone that says the US government is owned by corporations just hasn\t been to Canada yet. Canada is so bad that the government HAS to stand up to the corps very publicly on a few items just in order to give people some sort of illusion that they aren't being heavily paid off.
At least we have regulatory bodies that keep things in check for their own interests however. Their own personal interests happen to coincide with the public interest somewhere around 50% of the time so it sort of works.
Lastly our saving grace is a very... stringent justice system. People getting caught taking bribes pretty much get their balls chopped off and stuffed down the back of their throats.
The problem here is that it won't. The laptop is essentially free and the 3g data plan it comes with for $20/month would cost you $50-80/month to get it some other way.
I'm not making up numbers. I've actually seen the paper backing up those numbers personally. I didn't believe the flat fee myself at first but its all there.
These aren't out of China. They are largely out of Canada. Which is why I mentioned I wouldn't be surprised about the processing fees. It all depends of course, their fees could be better than what we get in some places in Canada, I have no idea. I just wouldn't be surprised about it being $4.
Large retail chains, or even some larger independant stores, will get those sorts of fees. I've personally negotiated a 2% flat fee with our processor because we do millions in CC transactions every year.
Now, thats here, in North America. Its fairly normal across the continent, excepting a few places.
Those places often get nailed with flat fees of $1.50+ per transaction, plus 3-5%. I can easily imagine it being much higher in China as the worst place I've personally seen here they get nailed for $3 per transaction plus 3%, which is what the GP said.
Your post makes the thread title even more appropriate.
The worst part of this whole thing is that something like 1 in 10 people in North America at the very least probably have SOME motivation in their background to do something like this to embarrass Sony without having to get Anonymous involved.
Generally a higher portion of those 1 in 10 would be tech savvy folks. I would expect 50% or greater(almost all of the people I know that boycott sony would be in the "tech savvy" group, based on that anecdotal evidence I'd estimate 90%+ but since I'm pulling numbers out of my ass I'm going with more reasonable ones, they hurt less on the way out)
So, even allowing for the fact that those numbers could be way out of wack )but be honest with yourself, probably aren't that far off, if anything, thanks to that rootkit scandal, I'm under estimating), you've got 1 million + people who could potentially have had the motivation and the means to compromise such a shoddy setup.
Oh, and those numbers are pre-PSN scandal. Now you've probably got an extra million+ with either means or access to means and motivation to do something.
While this is true, since he's a programmer already, I imagine he already knows most of the basics and is looking more for best practice and additional equipment recommendations etc. If he can get it, some sort of best practice handbook.
Also: Taking a chance on someone you don't know but has some paper credentials(even experience is paper credentials, I've seen people with 5 years network admin experience whose most strenuous task at their previous job was configuring a new switch) vs taking a chance on someone you know works very well, knows something about the task you're putting him into and you know he learns fast and well..... A good manager will put the second guy into the job. Not the first guy.
If you have good staff, Its better to move your best staff into your most critical positions than try to find some random guy to do it for you. Its this basic idea that most management completely fail on, and I've seen it take down everything from 1m revenue businesses to 100m revenue businesses.
The problem lies in the fact that management don't know anything about what they hired the guy to do, and they HAVE to trust him. If, on the other hand, you have someone you can already trust, and works well... you re-train them or throw them straight into the fire(though the second option is less appealing to most).
Also, experienced and GOOD network admins generally aren't looking for a job. If someone has a decades worth of network admin experience and is looking for a job, if their previous company didn't suffer major layoffs/go out of business(or at least is probably headed in that direction, this is what a solid interview is for), then there is something wrong with the person. Either personally or professionally. and either case means you can't have them running your show.
+$50 minimum for a motherboard over what you would pay for the phenom one, then an additional $25 for the same amount of ram.
Your $10 just became $85. Which is a very significant difference, especially given the relative insignificance of CPU horsepower for modern video games.
Rather than rebranding and releasing as a new product and pushing it hard like they did the Storm I they left the Storm II to sit in the backlash of terrible Storm I brand experience, then discontinued it just as it was starting to gain steam as a viable contender in the group-think.
End result is the same, but there was an entire series of bad calls at RIM that leads into their current situation.
I didn't actually do the math, I threw out a random number that I figured was semi-sort of close. Didn't really have time at the time to think much about it. The point is the same. Pitch is often being provided with zero ratio.
If that was all it was, it would be easy and it would be simple. As you're selectively ignoring the parts of my statements that reveal that this is NOT what they are doing with the new plans that are coming out in metric(and I've seen it from both Canadian and European engineers, so its not a localized problem) I am forced to assume you are a troll and I've been successfully trolled.
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You may have misunderstood me a little bit there. I meant that as an example of how the community, and their direct role models, should be involved in resolving any and all situations right up until there is absolutely no choice but to involve authorities because a more severe crime has been committed.
However, a little fear is healthy. Those incidents I spoke of, happened only a few times when things went way past out of hand. However the reimainder student body respected him because he wouldn't back down. However enlightened and intelligent you think we've become, we're still animals at a basic level. Pack mentality still rules. This is reflected in very nearly everything we do, and ignoring it is not going to work.
He's a good teacher, kind, and well respected. I can see how you got the wrong impression from my post, but you should understand that these things DO have a place.
As for your second bit:
"Seriously though, shouldn't we be teaching kids to make their own decisions and form their own opinions of what is right and wrong? Wouldn't that lead to a more productive society where we could actively question and debate moral issues and consequences?"
Sure, I'd love to do that. In fact some of the best classes I had in school the teachers opened up discussions on this sort of thing and we would debate it back and forth. However, even in those classes, you could see some people couldn't reason it out for themselves. They generally lacked the mental capacity(no, not everyone is created equal, saying that they are is bullshit). Exceptions were there for kids with poor home lives, etc of course. For these people, they often end up deviating from the things that everyone else just "knows is wrong", because they don't know. It is for them that the community needs to step in, and step up, to teach them some basic morals.
You're talking in absolutes. You're also wrong because of that, even though you bring up some good points. I may have been a little too absolute but I was trying to refrain from writing an essay to cover the intricacies.
Whoops, sorry.
***Corporal Punishment
I'm beginning to think I should write something, wait 12 hours, and read it again before I post it.
Yes, you were too absolute. I agree with what you have now said. I just reacted that way because there are way too many things that are ending up in the hands of the police, and teachers/parents are shirking way too many of their responsibilities. In many cases its societies, and some new law's fault, however.... The kids are losing respect for their teachers, because the teachers pawned the responsibility off to someone else, their parents, for the same reason, and the police, because they generally get off with a slap on the wrist and a stern lecture and thats what they then think will always happen(sadly in many cases they are correct).
Small group of communities. I happen to personally know almost everyone that went to school under him.
Seriously? Disorderly conduct charges the Most Appropriate Response?
Jesus christ, how much responsibility has to be completely removed from parents and from the community before people will be happy? This is a LOCAL, SCHOOL/COMMUNITY issue, and should be handled as such. Sending the cops in for something stupid like this sends exactly the wrong message. It sends the "Do exactly as we tell you or we'll send the jackboots in after you" message. The kids will not respect it, or you.
The kids know they can get away with anything up to the point where you call the fscking police. This is happening in schools everywhere, and is a major problem. Capital punishment in schools was abused, but was 95% effective. For the other 5% there are nowadays more than enough protections and general oversight to eliminate that.
One of my close relatives is a career school teacher/principal. He has in his day punched out high school students, hung them partway off balconies and forced them into manual labor during school hours as punishment. You know what his school never produced under his watch? A criminal. You know how many times law enforcement was ever even contacted by the school under his watch? Zero.
Do you know how many students that got hit, hung off balconies and forced to work thanked him for it eventually? All of them. One eventually did end up in jail for a relatively minor offense, 15 years or so later after he fell on hard times. After he got out he was talking to someone and said "You know the first thing I thought when I got caught? Fuck, he's going to kill me."
Yes, 15 years later, the biggest deterrent was still a man that could no longer even feasibly do anything to him if he didn't wish it. THIS is what is missing from the younger generations. I know it, I'm part of it. The difference is, I at least had it at home, and I'm very thankful for that.
Its very easy to see this happening all the time. Its been happening over the last 10 years or so with all those new-fangled anti-depressants. You can get the brand name one in capsule form or the Generic out of patent one in pill form.
I forget the two it was, but I had a shill doctor prescribe the first one and then a real doctor prescribe the cheaper, same effectiveness, generic.
Done.
Sin was a monster summoned by that super powerful summoner guy you kill at the end. The summoner gave his whole being over to the summoning of the city that Tidus came from, and Sin was the protection that he built for himself. Tidus really was just a dream, of sorts. He was a part of the massive city that the super powerful summoner guy was summoning into existence to preserve it after it was completely destroyed in a war a thousand years prior to the time that the actual events of FFX took place. However, just as Sin, and the other Aeons that could be summoned had some free-will of their own, so did the residents of the city. The residents lived for a thousand years in isolation, thus they created first Jecht, and then Tidus in a plot to end their own existence. Since Tidus and Jecht were part of the summoning of the city, when the summoner that was maintaining said city died, Tidus went with him.
Is that good enough for you?
That plot I could understand fine in FFX. Even if there were a couple of spots that made you tilt your head in confusion, it usually cleared those up somewhere, and the game was fun. The problem with FFXIII is there isn't ANY information. Theres no explanation as to who anyone is for the most part, its like you're expected to just know. Theres not even any help in the blurbs in the manual, and as I said, taping the controller down is an effective method of progressing through the battles in the game.
Seriously? I'm still not sure what the plot was. I'm a huge fan of FF games, and I own every single one, a couple of them multiple times.... and I have to say, FF XIII was a complete load of crap. Top to bottom.
I played for 4 hours. I subjected myself to that game for FOUR HOURS. I was trying, very hard, to like it, but.... 4 hours in, the combat system STILL felt like I was wading through that 1 or 2 turn tutorial in some of their other games. It was like "WTF, let me play already". Instead I could probably have taped down my A button and control stick to beat the stupid game.
They dumbed it down way way too far in a scenario that already needed no dumbing down.
I'll admit the plot line to that point was very linear/hallway-ish however I could have probably still played through the game if it didn't just suck great big sweaty balls, top to bottom. The only single good thing about it were the graphics, and even those I personally didn't like some of the art style choices.
"Maybe the solution is to let the engineers control the nuclear industry, soup-to-nuts, and send the MBA's packing?"
This could solve problems in a number of Industries, however I think it particularly applies to the Nuclear industry.
This should be implemented ASAP.
Anyone that says the US government is owned by corporations just hasn\t been to Canada yet. Canada is so bad that the government HAS to stand up to the corps very publicly on a few items just in order to give people some sort of illusion that they aren't being heavily paid off.
At least we have regulatory bodies that keep things in check for their own interests however. Their own personal interests happen to coincide with the public interest somewhere around 50% of the time so it sort of works.
Lastly our saving grace is a very... stringent justice system. People getting caught taking bribes pretty much get their balls chopped off and stuffed down the back of their throats.
Was a 5gb package that I saw. Which is for me right now $69.99 CAD(about the same as USD anyways) from Bell.
Regardless, even if it ends up being 1gb of service, its basically a free laptop with your 3g and no contract.
The problem here is that it won't. The laptop is essentially free and the 3g data plan it comes with for $20/month would cost you $50-80/month to get it some other way.
I'm not making up numbers. I've actually seen the paper backing up those numbers personally. I didn't believe the flat fee myself at first but its all there.
These aren't out of China. They are largely out of Canada. Which is why I mentioned I wouldn't be surprised about the processing fees. It all depends of course, their fees could be better than what we get in some places in Canada, I have no idea. I just wouldn't be surprised about it being $4.
Stop talking out of your ass.
Large retail chains, or even some larger independant stores, will get those sorts of fees. I've personally negotiated a 2% flat fee with our processor because we do millions in CC transactions every year.
Now, thats here, in North America. Its fairly normal across the continent, excepting a few places.
Those places often get nailed with flat fees of $1.50+ per transaction, plus 3-5%. I can easily imagine it being much higher in China as the worst place I've personally seen here they get nailed for $3 per transaction plus 3%, which is what the GP said.
Your post makes the thread title even more appropriate.
Civilian and Military death estimates for a conventional war outcome with the Japanese were somewhere north of 1.5 million. He made the right call.
The worst part of this whole thing is that something like 1 in 10 people in North America at the very least probably have SOME motivation in their background to do something like this to embarrass Sony without having to get Anonymous involved.
Generally a higher portion of those 1 in 10 would be tech savvy folks. I would expect 50% or greater(almost all of the people I know that boycott sony would be in the "tech savvy" group, based on that anecdotal evidence I'd estimate 90%+ but since I'm pulling numbers out of my ass I'm going with more reasonable ones, they hurt less on the way out)
So, even allowing for the fact that those numbers could be way out of wack )but be honest with yourself, probably aren't that far off, if anything, thanks to that rootkit scandal, I'm under estimating), you've got 1 million + people who could potentially have had the motivation and the means to compromise such a shoddy setup.
Oh, and those numbers are pre-PSN scandal. Now you've probably got an extra million+ with either means or access to means and motivation to do something.
While this is true, since he's a programmer already, I imagine he already knows most of the basics and is looking more for best practice and additional equipment recommendations etc. If he can get it, some sort of best practice handbook.
Also: Taking a chance on someone you don't know but has some paper credentials(even experience is paper credentials, I've seen people with 5 years network admin experience whose most strenuous task at their previous job was configuring a new switch) vs taking a chance on someone you know works very well, knows something about the task you're putting him into and you know he learns fast and well..... A good manager will put the second guy into the job. Not the first guy.
If you have good staff, Its better to move your best staff into your most critical positions than try to find some random guy to do it for you. Its this basic idea that most management completely fail on, and I've seen it take down everything from 1m revenue businesses to 100m revenue businesses.
The problem lies in the fact that management don't know anything about what they hired the guy to do, and they HAVE to trust him. If, on the other hand, you have someone you can already trust, and works well... you re-train them or throw them straight into the fire(though the second option is less appealing to most).
Also, experienced and GOOD network admins generally aren't looking for a job. If someone has a decades worth of network admin experience and is looking for a job, if their previous company didn't suffer major layoffs/go out of business(or at least is probably headed in that direction, this is what a solid interview is for), then there is something wrong with the person. Either personally or professionally. and either case means you can't have them running your show.
Easy. He was interested in it, and could do a better job with it already than whoever they hired previously.
I went from Heavy Equipment Operator, to Network Administrator, to General Manager of a Building Supply in exactly the same way.
+$50 minimum for a motherboard over what you would pay for the phenom one, then an additional $25 for the same amount of ram.
Your $10 just became $85. Which is a very significant difference, especially given the relative insignificance of CPU horsepower for modern video games.
They already have for some things. Generally they're conveniently ignoring these things.
Someday when the knowledge and understanding of that knowledge becomes more common its going to become an ever larger elephant in the room scenario.
The Storm I was ill-received. For good reason.
Rather than rebranding and releasing as a new product and pushing it hard like they did the Storm I they left the Storm II to sit in the backlash of terrible Storm I brand experience, then discontinued it just as it was starting to gain steam as a viable contender in the group-think.
End result is the same, but there was an entire series of bad calls at RIM that leads into their current situation.
If you get a lungful of freon, you're dead, end of story.
You could be sitting on an operating table in a hospital when it happens and you're still fucked.
The fact that you came out and declared that this is his "opinion" says a lot about the state of affairs of education amongst the general populace. :/
Reading Slashdot sometimes makes me question whether some of you people deserve any of the basic human rights when you are so quick to give them away.
I didn't actually do the math, I threw out a random number that I figured was semi-sort of close. Didn't really have time at the time to think much about it. The point is the same. Pitch is often being provided with zero ratio.
If that was all it was, it would be easy and it would be simple. As you're selectively ignoring the parts of my statements that reveal that this is NOT what they are doing with the new plans that are coming out in metric(and I've seen it from both Canadian and European engineers, so its not a localized problem) I am forced to assume you are a troll and I've been successfully trolled.
Good day sir.