>An ISP should not apply the MAPS blocking list >to any user who hasn't requested it -- you >should have to opt-in, just like for the emails.
but the harris lists are not opt in, thats the whole point!
If you disagree with the policies of your ISP you can leave, thats called freedom of choice.
Harris want to destroy this, as it wants to be removed from the list, which means that every user with every type of filtering (both user defined at the ISP, and full ISP filtering) get no choice at all.
The whole point is choice, and Harris want to make sure you don't get one.
Yet again, bend over and enjoy the big biz internet.
"Notice how Best Buy has raised its average cd price from $11.99 to $14.99 over the past year and a half "...", but that is the market dictating that people are willing to pay for it"
Oh, and that would be same period when the record companies were operating an illegal price control scheme to control CD prices! Jesus, if you are going to make a point, its better if you read what has *ACTUALLY* been going on.
Your argument makes no sense, tapes used to be a lot cheaper than CD's, the production costs have lowered and the prices have still risen. In fact I remember a record company exec in an interview saying how cd prices would fall when volume reached that of tape sales, what a lieing shit, volume increased and so did the size of his wallet.
Actually using napster has made me buy a lot more music that I ever bought berfore, just by bringing an interest to the fore, but while the back catalog remains un-available, while record companies operate outside the law, while CD prices are kept high, I will remain a "Pirate"
Napster really re-started my interest in music, and since starting using napster I have purchased more CD's than I ever have before. Not a week went past without a stack of new CD's appearing in my place.
Napster for me was just a tool for finding old singles that are no longer available, or wierd EP's that never even appeared in the UK. It allowed me to get things that the record companies never even tried to sell to me.
....but now its time for action, no more buying ANY cd's, this is is.
Hello record companies, say good bye to a customer, your actions in blocking people who never cost you a dine will cost you a lot.
No profit for you.. No Bonus for you.. No Extra shares for you..
Say goodbye private schools, Say goodbye nice house in the country, Say goodbye new BMW.
Rule number one in business, don't piss off your customers.
Hmmm, naviscope says 47273 ads blocked, thats a lot of bandwidth saved! Really though, who really clicks on ads? In about 5 years now of surfing the web, I have only ever clicked on one ad. That was here on slashdot for a british company selling pre-built linux systems. Adverts are not the way to pay for your website, this is *NOT* TV, and I for one would not want it going that way. F
So whats the industry doing?
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All we hear is RIAA this and RIAA that... But just what is the music industry doing? I want that deleted CD, can I buy it from the record companies web site....NO I want that old B side, can I buy it...NO I want that EP released only in Japan, can I buy it....NO If you had thousands of tracks not for sale, thousands of people wanting to buy them, and very little effort invoved in providing a worldwide distribution, would you be sitting back doing nothing at all? Its no wonder people copy these tracks, it because of rooms full of music industry exec's sat around with there heads in the sand, hoping the Internet will just go away. Fishy
If HMG want to read my email , then why do I care, they isn't really anything interesting in it!
At the end of the day its security vs freedom, if this prevents someone blowing me up next time I walk down oxford street, then its a small price to pay.
Not very, The Times is well known for printing rubbish regarding computers. It seems they have no tech editor, and often print press releases as stories (falling for every lie), and stories full of dubious facts.
In fact they once printed an urban myth as a true story.
Best not to believe any tech stories in The Times.
"nationalist companies", nope BT was sold a long time ago.
Perhaps if it didn't have to feed it shareholders free local calls would have introduced some time ago.
This news item isn't really anything newsworthy anyway, the freeserve deal only applies if you make plenty of long distance calls, and the AOL deal actually make it more expensive that BT's rates-discount at weekend. It only makes sence for people who use it during the day.
Only the introduction of low priced cable modems, or ADSL will get rid of the call charges, but without action from our toothless friend OFTEL, this doesn't look like it will happen.
A free market economy also need competition to work properly, at the moment we have big old BT, and the dumb cable companies, nothign will be changing soon.
But the BBC's online activities are a lot better than nearly all the other broadcasters in the UK.
Still to say that, no branch of the traditional media ever made a program/article that didn't get it all wrong when it came to the net. You just know they will drag out that davey guy, who will claim to be great expert and spout a load of crap.
"digitally recorded movies", that part seems odd, we all know that downloading movies is a stupid idea, because they look terrible. If you want a movie bootleg, you nip down the local market and buy one.
Isn't it only the movie industry that moans about "digital pirates"?
Seems that someone may have made a deal in return for a press release that please's all involved.
Slashdot Mirror
Do you want me to opt you in again?
Just a mo, that means it cannot be opt in , as *****YOU***** would not have opted in!
Starting to understand yet?
F
>An ISP should not apply the MAPS blocking list >to any user who hasn't requested it -- you >should have to opt-in, just like for the emails.
but the harris lists are not opt in, thats the whole point!
If you disagree with the policies of your ISP you can leave, thats called freedom of choice.
Harris want to destroy this, as it wants to be removed from the list, which means that every user with every type of filtering (both user defined at the ISP, and full ISP filtering) get no choice at all.
The whole point is choice, and Harris want to make sure you don't get one.
Yet again, bend over and enjoy the big biz internet.
F
Tell me, why I should be listening to this media baron in waiting?
F
LOL, very good.
There is a serious point though, are we all becoming a little paranoid?
I tend to dislike people who always use the X-No archive(etc) , if their post is worth reading now, why shouldn't it be worth reading next month?
Are we in danger of destroying history (and yes these digital words are history) for the sake of keeping a privacy you really don't need.
When historians are finding 5mm DAT tapes in cubbyholes, instead of finding scrolls in jars, will some people just not appear to have existed?
F
"Notice how Best Buy has raised its average cd price from $11.99 to $14.99 over the past year and a half "...", but that is the market dictating that people are willing to pay for it"
Oh, and that would be same period when the record companies were operating an illegal price control scheme to control CD prices! Jesus, if you are going to make a point, its better if you read what has *ACTUALLY* been going on.
Your argument makes no sense, tapes used to be a lot cheaper than CD's, the production costs have lowered and the prices have still risen. In fact I remember a record company exec in an interview saying how cd prices would fall when volume reached that of tape sales, what a lieing shit, volume increased and so did the size of his wallet.
Actually using napster has made me buy a lot more music that I ever bought berfore, just by bringing an interest to the fore, but while the back catalog remains un-available, while record companies operate outside the law, while CD prices are kept high, I will remain a "Pirate"
F
Napster really re-started my interest in music, and since starting using napster I have purchased more CD's than I ever have before. Not a week went past without a stack of new CD's appearing in my place.
Napster for me was just a tool for finding old singles that are no longer available, or wierd EP's that never even appeared in the UK. It allowed me to get things that the record companies never even tried to sell to me.
....but now its time for action, no more buying ANY cd's, this is is.
Hello record companies, say good bye to a customer, your actions in blocking people who never cost you a dine will cost you a lot.
No profit for you..
No Bonus for you..
No Extra shares for you..
Say goodbye private schools,
Say goodbye nice house in the country,
Say goodbye new BMW.
Rule number one in business, don't piss off your customers.
F
People don't get onto the RBL by doing nothing, they get on by letting spammers use there service, and not doing enough to stop it.
So yesmail *****ARE***** spammers, theres no question about it.
Now all they need to do is a change to there mail lists, but oh no, they prefer people to recieve spam.
Its as simp-le as that.
F
LOL!
......
You idiot, its not land, its a platform, fully built and paid for by the UK government.
Not that it really matters, a steel platform in the sea for 50 years
F
"Principality of Sealand"
Bullshit, it has the same status as The Principality Of My Front Room.
Don't leave it unoccupied, else someone might leave a couple of mines attached to the legs, and who would would give a damn.
F
Hmmm, naviscope says 47273 ads blocked, thats a lot of bandwidth saved! Really though, who really clicks on ads? In about 5 years now of surfing the web, I have only ever clicked on one ad. That was here on slashdot for a british company selling pre-built linux systems. Adverts are not the way to pay for your website, this is *NOT* TV, and I for one would not want it going that way. F
All we hear is RIAA this and RIAA that... But just what is the music industry doing? I want that deleted CD, can I buy it from the record companies web site....NO I want that old B side, can I buy it...NO I want that EP released only in Japan, can I buy it....NO If you had thousands of tracks not for sale, thousands of people wanting to buy them, and very little effort invoved in providing a worldwide distribution, would you be sitting back doing nothing at all? Its no wonder people copy these tracks, it because of rooms full of music industry exec's sat around with there heads in the sand, hoping the Internet will just go away. Fishy
If HMG want to read my email , then why do I care, they isn't really anything interesting in it!
At the end of the day its security vs freedom, if this prevents someone blowing me up next time I walk down oxford street, then its a small price to pay.
F
>a) How reliable is this news source
Not very, The Times is well known for printing rubbish regarding computers. It seems they have no tech editor, and often print press releases as stories (falling for every lie), and stories full of dubious facts.
In fact they once printed an urban myth as a true story.
Best not to believe any tech stories in The Times.
F
Oh god,
it one of those stonking pissups followed by :
"yyyerr can stufff your job, I can get something betterr aaaannyytime"
My god, he will be annoyed in the morning.
Steve
Nooooooooooooooooo, that's the way Trimble and the big mouth'ed one say it.
It only 'correct terminology' for one group of people. The other half will not use the two words in the same sentence.
See how Irish politics gets a little out of hand sometimes.
(Best to leave it be)
F
But according to sinnfein they are not the same as the IRA.
Best to get your facts right, or get knee-capped.
F
"nationalist companies", nope BT was sold a long time ago.
Perhaps if it didn't have to feed it shareholders free local calls would have introduced some time ago.
This news item isn't really anything newsworthy anyway, the freeserve deal only applies if you make plenty of long distance calls, and the AOL deal actually make it more expensive that BT's rates-discount at weekend. It only makes sence for people who use it during the day.
Only the introduction of low priced cable modems, or ADSL will get rid of the call charges, but without action from our toothless friend OFTEL, this doesn't look like it will happen.
A free market economy also need competition to work properly, at the moment we have big old BT, and the dumb cable companies, nothign will be changing soon.
F
But the BBC's online activities are a lot better than nearly all the other broadcasters in the UK.
Still to say that, no branch of the traditional media ever made a program/article that didn't get it all wrong when it came to the net. You just know they will drag out that davey guy, who will claim to be great expert and spout a load of crap.
F
Does that mean I should light the barbecue?
F
Theres something very odd about that story.
"digitally recorded movies", that part seems odd, we all know that downloading movies is a stupid idea, because they look terrible. If you want a movie bootleg, you nip down the local market and buy one.
Isn't it only the movie industry that moans about "digital pirates"?
Seems that someone may have made a deal in return for a press release that please's all involved.
F
What do I think?
I think I cannot be bothered to read something that displays as 5 words per line.
Does this diplay normal to anyone?
F
Sorry , did the Anonymous Coward say something? I answer I could find 200 people within 2 seconds who agree with. F
Tom's little site has been printing rubbish for a long time.
Sorry, but no-one has believed a word of it for a long time, theres no point making headines from his rubbish.
F
LOL, were not sat around in fields munching straw you know, me thinks you have been watching too much TV.
(Actually sat here with the rumble of traffic, maybe the straw idea sounds good!)
Steve
The trial is in some london areas (see http://www.isntrial.bt.com/) , the sept 30 ukp rumour is just that
steve