and they wont have a computer usable by them either. are *you* gonna take thier calls day in and day out? when your trying to work/study/mac on a chick?
Linux is not for parents or your grandma. Apples or windows are more suited for them. Linux is for you (not for me; i'll stick with BSD).
when will you people learn this? and the REAL statistics of TCO/TCA that occompanies OSS (ANY flavour)
Nothing is sacred from RMS slapping GNU on it is there?!
Let me guess what's next GNU/Disney? GNU/GNU? GNU/Microsoft? GNU/Solaris? GNU/Coke? (oh wait, coke tried that in the 80's:-)....see where i'm going? What is the point of having a bsd kernel for a linux userland? that's like the red-headed bastard child of the mailman.
but then companies using hotmail is no surprise and is more common than most of you think. why? because one reason or another; such as there are some 'old boys' high up that like easy stuff, cost cutting, etc OR the people are just not with technology...
yes, even in seattle with UncleBill looking over your shoulder this is more common than one would think. I could name names, but then someone would probably kill me.
Is it not microsoft that has 'unbiased' labs ship out cookie-cutter reports that thier products are better (in any sense) than anything remotely considered to be a competitor?
AMD is NOT the way to go for a business (i know from experience). Intel's chipset's are more robust and are proven for business'.
Call up dell, get a sales rep and start a dialogue. price out some optiplex's (or a dimention if you wanna go cheapie). your monthly payment on ~25 dell boxen @ ~$800/ea might be ~$300/mo.
The only way to know is to price 'em out and run the numbers. Is using a whitebox gonna save you money? maybe...BUT! what is the 'TCO/TCA' gonna cost you for those whitebox's as compared to a dell? What about warranty? parts replacement? Drivers when you format? Licensing?
I have to go over the same scenerio with my clients day in and day out; for them a Dell is cheaper.
I am not part of dell; I just preach them, my statements are an opinion, YMMV...of course:-)
So, you mean to tell me this guy carries a sheet of lead on his head to stop the constant barrage of RF comming from the thousands of orbiting satilites?...or did he forget about those? (sensativity thru obscurity?:-)
Sounds like this guy slings FUD better than a salesman for watchguard:)
Sounds to me like this guy just wanted some exposure, and he used the gullableness of the/. editors to accomplish this.
Same story, different news outlet.
works everytime...
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aww c'mon! you're slinging FUD everywhere...
(dont get me wrong) I preach BSD everywhere it's needed, but I prefer to use a 2K server for DNS/DHCP in a corporate environment (just cause it's easier:-)
...those Windows "administrators" must have been dumber than dirt. It's a no brainer to setup DHCP (read: point click, "oh my god becky!, it works"), and DNS (which has dynamic built-in under WIN2K) is a little harder, but if you can pour cereal into a bowl and then pour milk into the *same* bowl, you can set that up too.
Your relevancy of DHCP and DNS holds no water, you should be beating those who call themselves "administrators" for being stoopid.
The matter under the headings "Immigration And Naturalization Service: Salaries and Expenses, Enforcement And Border Affairs"......... is amended by striking the following each place it occurs: "Provided, That none of the funds available to the Immigration and Naturalization Service shall be available to pay any employee overtime pay in an amount in excess of $30,000 during the calendar year beginning January 1, 2001:".
Looks to me that the Govt is saying "if we cant hire more staff, let's work 'em to death and give them time and 1/2 to no limit"... how many people here actually read the bill? I did...From reading the comments it looks like most posters take the 'heresay' from the original post and flame off that..
hopefully now all them Linux users will see what kinda nifty toys us BSD users have been using since the invention of the toaster...
...and then (oops, here comes the conspiracy theory) after said Linux users like the ports system, they will stop using Linux and start using BSD...(yea yea, shuddup, it's humor).
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I never knew that the majority of /. has had a job in computer forensics.
:-)
...and yes my last job was doing computer forensics.
Seriously, from the mod'd up posts I just read you'd swear that everyone has a job doing computer forensics.
*amazing*
There is nothing new here (to me at least) about the contents of this story- it's like "oh, CF shit...whatever"
just cause you *think* you know everything, doesn't mean you *do* know it. (and no, I don't know it all). Ya'll kinda remind me of paper-msce's
i'd say 90% of /. wants a free ride. That is lame.
Can you really expect a company to produce software for free? (remember kids, there IS NO such thing a free; ever)
this is one of THE biggest misconceptions with OSS.
Then they won't have that problem.
and they wont have a computer usable by them either. are *you* gonna take thier calls day in and day out? when your trying to work/study/mac on a chick?
Linux is not for parents or your grandma. Apples or windows are more suited for them. Linux is for you (not for me; i'll stick with BSD).
when will you people learn this? and the REAL statistics of TCO/TCA that occompanies OSS (ANY flavour)
Nothing is sacred from RMS slapping GNU on it is there?!
:-). ...see where i'm going? What is the point of having a bsd kernel for a linux userland? that's like the red-headed bastard child of the mailman.
Let me guess what's next GNU/Disney? GNU/GNU? GNU/Microsoft? GNU/Solaris? GNU/Coke? (oh wait, coke tried that in the 80's
sheeh!
Oh god, that means RMS saw something that worked _already_ and slapped GNU on it to further his own causes.
/.)
(this is something i've heard many times from the LINUX community right here on
since when is darwin a GNU project? I could have sworn Darwin was under a bsd-esque license?
or is there two darwins now?
Vuja Da?! (last part of the story)
Where are you going next?
...thank you! I'm here all week.
I'm going to EA-Land!
> Bob Young wrote this article.
Ya know, I just left Seattle (seattletimes and all) after a 4 year stint...
Who the HELL is Bob Young and what difference does it make if he wrote the article? Never heard of the guy!
perhaps the jokes on *you*?
what part of "duh" dont you get?
but then companies using hotmail is no surprise and is more common than most of you think. why? because one reason or another; such as there are some 'old boys' high up that like easy stuff, cost cutting, etc OR the people are just not with technology...
yes, even in seattle with UncleBill looking over your shoulder this is more common than one would think. I could name names, but then someone would probably kill me.
like some borg'd out guy in a red hat? :-)
go ahead..mod me down..see if i care. Wait, my psycic powers tell me i'll get a troll rating..
Linus Torvalds thinks they should ignore these patents and pretend they don't exist until they cause troubles
does linus think he's god? that he's above patent laws? WoW! I can't wait till he's slapped with a billion dollar lawsuit.
get some bushman from zimbabwe who's never seen, let alone heard of a calculator (=computer) and get HIS opinion...that'll solve the debate :-)
Is it not microsoft that has 'unbiased' labs ship out cookie-cutter reports that thier products are better (in any sense) than anything remotely considered to be a competitor?
I'm just playing devil's advocate here....
Lease...
:-)
AMD is NOT the way to go for a business (i know from experience). Intel's chipset's are more robust and are proven for business'.
Call up dell, get a sales rep and start a dialogue. price out some optiplex's (or a dimention if you wanna go cheapie). your monthly payment on ~25 dell boxen @ ~$800/ea might be ~$300/mo.
The only way to know is to price 'em out and run the numbers. Is using a whitebox gonna save you money? maybe...BUT! what is the 'TCO/TCA' gonna cost you for those whitebox's as compared to a dell? What about warranty? parts replacement? Drivers when you format? Licensing?
I have to go over the same scenerio with my clients day in and day out; for them a Dell is cheaper.
I am not part of dell; I just preach them, my statements are an opinion, YMMV...of course
lame ass...you think I dont know? go away you troll...
dont you know funny stuff when ya see it?
No, seriously :-)
I'm glad to see Uncle Bill pushing the "BSD". God knows he's made enuff money off using the code taken there from.
I seen one the other day, am I halucinating? or has /. totally sold out now?
I'm not talking a banner ad, but a big-ass box right under the story, but before the comments...
So, you mean to tell me this guy carries a sheet of lead on his head to stop the constant barrage of RF comming from the thousands of orbiting satilites? ...or did he forget about those? (sensativity thru obscurity? :-)
:)
Sounds like this guy slings FUD better than a salesman for watchguard
Sounds to me like this guy just wanted some exposure, and he used the gullableness of the /. editors to accomplish this.
Same story, different news outlet.
works everytime...
aww c'mon! you're slinging FUD everywhere...
:-)
(dont get me wrong) I preach BSD everywhere it's needed, but I prefer to use a 2K server for DNS/DHCP in a corporate environment (just cause it's easier
...those Windows "administrators" must have been dumber than dirt. It's a no brainer to setup DHCP (read: point click, "oh my god becky!, it works"), and DNS (which has dynamic built-in under WIN2K) is a little harder, but if you can pour cereal into a bowl and then pour milk into the *same* bowl, you can set that up too.
Your relevancy of DHCP and DNS holds no water, you should be beating those who call themselves "administrators" for being stoopid.
?toor tog
heh...seriously...i'm assuming that's where they got "Toor" from...'root' backwards...
Now I can have "The Microsoft Sound" (from WIN95) Play after I login :-)
interesting tid bit that wasn't mentioned:
... ... ... is amended by striking the following each place it occurs: "Provided, That none of the funds available to the Immigration and Naturalization Service shall be available to pay any employee overtime pay in an amount in excess of $30,000 during the calendar year beginning January 1, 2001:".
SEC. 503. LIMITED AUTHORITY TO PAY OVERTIME.
The matter under the headings "Immigration And Naturalization Service: Salaries and Expenses, Enforcement And Border Affairs"
Looks to me that the Govt is saying "if we cant hire more staff, let's work 'em to death and give them time and 1/2 to no limit"... how many people here actually read the bill? I did...From reading the comments it looks like most posters take the 'heresay' from the original post and flame off that..
hopefully now all them Linux users will see what kinda nifty toys us BSD users have been using since the invention of the toaster...
...and then (oops, here comes the conspiracy theory) after said Linux users like the ports system, they will stop using Linux and start using BSD...(yea yea, shuddup, it's humor).
*yaay*