While I must admit to enjoying various alcoholic beverages I empathise entirely with regard to mass culture being based on idiocy like knocking balls about fields.
I'm in the UK and here it's football. People ask if I'm watching the match at the weekend; I tell them I'm not interested in football and they go on to tell me what a shame such and such a team was beat last week and how great a season it's been for Blahblah United. My eyes glaze over while I nod politely, I reiterate that I don't much care for spectator sport, the conversation eventually ends.
Next time I meet them the whole thing repeats! It's extraordinary. I've given up trying to avoid these conversations now and I will actively ask how a person's favourite team are doing, and if I've heard anything in the news like a big match I might mention it. Its like a kind of evil virulent social lubricant. People are incapable of interacting without mentioning sport.
Other than the sheer passivity of watching other people run about on a pitch, I can't stand the ridiculous fees these grown up children are paid. Call it envy or jealousy - I don't care - there is no justification in a civilised society for these people to be rewarded for faffing about in large groups for 90 minutes a week. There are so many better ways to spend the money.
Makes me angry!
Congratulations on finding a girl with whom you can share your interests.
Well said. In the UK, at least, we burn them anyway - cremation. Smoke into the sky.
Leave the animals alone - yes, I say stop eating them (I'm a near-vegan (eggs, dairy, leather I bought before I woke up) because animals are sentient, I know because I am one. I rock on both counts.) - and do something sensible with our own waste.
I would be more than happy to sign up for my body being burnt for fuel after I die, but I don't plan for that to happen for around 50 years. Unless I'm hit by some fuckwit in his SUV on the way to the petrol ("gas") station! I hope I leave a big dent in his bonnet ("hood") and dried blood over the paint job. Bastard!
How come so many people talk about how government employees are so lazy and worth the money, but then want to put more and more under control of government?
I think you're suggesting that the problem with government controlled bodies is that the employees are not accountable, so fiefdoms and employment protection rackets get set up, and people think they can get away with whatever they want.
However, private control and government control are not the only alternatives. Various forms of quango can be formed. It just takes the right amount of imagination to find the optimal shade of gray between black and white.
Clever people who know engineering - I'm sure slashdot is full of them - are well aware that optimal solutions are rarely to be found at the extremes, but generally somewhere between them.
I'm sorry that you feel that way. I'm sorry that you think your rights are given to you and taken from you by the state. Your life must be very sad.
Twirlip, this is exactly what happens in real life. Feel free to live in theory all you want but the problem is that the theory does not reflect reality.
You're assuming these people have functional legs. Homo Sapiens is slowly evolving a single limb which is only useful for the control of the gas and the brake, and the Americans are leading the way.
Fortunately most other nations still use a manual clutch, thus ensuring a full compliment of the requisite bodily appendages for human powered propulsion.
I knew there had to be a decent workplace restaurant somewhere, but I didn't realise security would be so tight. What were they protecting, good pizza?
Americans don't worry about things like pollution, that's why there gas is is practically untaxed (therefore cost is not an issue) and their engines are so large.
I grant that the very poorest people may not have access to computers or an education. But they won't be opening a factory or becoming a surgeon any time soon either. My point is that, of industrial activities that can benefit man, there is a significantly lower cost of entry to the field of software development. Significant enough that the doors are open to vast hordes of the less wealthy.
Intellectual work *is* expensive, have you every looked at the cost of R&D in corporations?
Intellectual work is expensive because the best intellects can hold out for the highest offer.
The doesn't mean that a clever person can't apply themselves to their own ends in their own time!
That's the whole point though. Patents and copyright are an artifice. They are the state overriding the natural order.
Secrets are the only "natural" intellectual property. I don't mind people keeping secrets, though, just as I don't mind them keeping tangible property.
If you believe that it's wrong to be forced into sharing knowledge, then perhaps you also feel it's wrong to be coerced into it. Patents coerce you into sharing knowledge (through the bribery of a cash reward).
Most anti-software-patent Slashdotters don't mind "normal" patents. I'm not sure if I like them either (the patents, not the Slashdotters!)
No, you didn't anger me! Sorry if I gave that impression! My reply was intended in good humour - but to make a point, that time is not really the same as money.
When examining time in relation to a single goal (for example, a businesses profit), yes, they are the same. But when examining time in relation to the myriad goals of people - actual or possible - then they are not.
Personally I have been supporting myself in employment for around 10 years. I have always had spare time. My need for money ("greed") has never meant that I must spend all my time making money! I don't count my hours spent in other ways as "lost" - in fact, those are the hours when I am really alive.
We are human, after all, not money-making machines.
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Ah yes, now I understand.
"Glasgow's miles better!"
If only Edinburgh had a made-up superiority slogan, you wouldn't be able to say that!
Information minister Blunkett...
Uh... he's the Home Secretary. But I'm sure he would appreciate his new title.
The Linux stock kernel scales to what, 8 processors maybe, until falling flat on its face due to lock contention.
... maybe" facts.
I don't think that's true, I think 2.6 scales to 16 processors.
2.6 supports the Intel MP 1.1 spec, which defines 16-way SMP.
Not that I have ever tried it, but I suspect you need to check your "what,
While I must admit to enjoying various alcoholic beverages I empathise entirely with regard to mass culture being based on idiocy like knocking balls about fields.
I'm in the UK and here it's football. People ask if I'm watching the match at the weekend; I tell them I'm not interested in football and they go on to tell me what a shame such and such a team was beat last week and how great a season it's been for Blahblah United. My eyes glaze over while I nod politely, I reiterate that I don't much care for spectator sport, the conversation eventually ends.
Next time I meet them the whole thing repeats! It's extraordinary. I've given up trying to avoid these conversations now and I will actively ask how a person's favourite team are doing, and if I've heard anything in the news like a big match I might mention it. Its like a kind of evil virulent social lubricant. People are incapable of interacting without mentioning sport.
Other than the sheer passivity of watching other people run about on a pitch, I can't stand the ridiculous fees these grown up children are paid. Call it envy or jealousy - I don't care - there is no justification in a civilised society for these people to be rewarded for faffing about in large groups for 90 minutes a week. There are so many better ways to spend the money.
Makes me angry!
Congratulations on finding a girl with whom you can share your interests.
This also applies to hangovers; I learnt to reserve blowouts for during the week from an old hand. Keep your Saturday morning head clear!
Well said. In the UK, at least, we burn them anyway - cremation. Smoke into the sky.
Leave the animals alone - yes, I say stop eating them (I'm a near-vegan (eggs, dairy, leather I bought before I woke up) because animals are sentient, I know because I am one. I rock on both counts.) - and do something sensible with our own waste.
I would be more than happy to sign up for my body being burnt for fuel after I die, but I don't plan for that to happen for around 50 years. Unless I'm hit by some fuckwit in his SUV on the way to the petrol ("gas") station! I hope I leave a big dent in his bonnet ("hood") and dried blood over the paint job. Bastard!
How come so many people talk about how government employees are so lazy and worth the money, but then want to put more and more under control of government?
I think you're suggesting that the problem with government controlled bodies is that the employees are not accountable, so fiefdoms and employment protection rackets get set up, and people think they can get away with whatever they want.
However, private control and government control are not the only alternatives. Various forms of quango can be formed. It just takes the right amount of imagination to find the optimal shade of gray between black and white.
Clever people who know engineering - I'm sure slashdot is full of them - are well aware that optimal solutions are rarely to be found at the extremes, but generally somewhere between them.
I'm sorry that you feel that way. I'm sorry that you think your rights are given to you and taken from you by the state. Your life must be very sad.
Twirlip, this is exactly what happens in real life. Feel free to live in theory all you want but the problem is that the theory does not reflect reality.
So you're saying that patents are not the result of state intervention? God runs the patent office?
Nonsense. Coercion means convincing somebody to do something....
Yeah your right, that was a bad choice of word. But the rest of my sentence makes it clear: the bribery of a cash reward
That's right, in the UK we are currently paying around 72% tax, and it was 85% in 1998.
I spotted a printf, which seams odd for an IPV6 stack or part of an OS
IOS does interact with the user through a terminal session so printfs aren't all that unlikely.
Of course they ought not to be in the IPv6 stack. Unless they populate packets as formatted strings.
So you're saying that although the customers suffer, it's OK because the vendors are getting fat?
CiSCO IOS? .
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SecurityLab, 13 2004 CISCO IOS 12.3, 12.3t, CISCO. 800
, - Cisco System. Cisco System
franz #darknet@EFnet IRC ( 2.5 )
100 ipv6_tcp.c ipv6_discovery_test.c.
Hope that helps!
You're assuming these people have functional legs. Homo Sapiens is slowly evolving a single limb which is only useful for the control of the gas and the brake, and the Americans are leading the way.
Fortunately most other nations still use a manual clutch, thus ensuring a full compliment of the requisite bodily appendages for human powered propulsion.
I knew there had to be a decent workplace restaurant somewhere, but I didn't realise security would be so tight. What were they protecting, good pizza?
There's a difference between "should" and "will have to because it's all I can afford".
Americans don't worry about things like pollution, that's why there gas is is practically untaxed (therefore cost is not an issue) and their engines are so large.
But if the EU decides not to honour US patents, and GWB is appointed President for a second term, I see another cold war brewing.
pure private health care systems seems to be less effective and less efficient as well
Fairly obvious really, considering that private companies have as their primary objective the extraction of the largest possible profit margin.
How that goal leads to healthy people I simply don't know!
Computers and education cost money
I grant that the very poorest people may not have access to computers or an education. But they won't be opening a factory or becoming a surgeon any time soon either. My point is that, of industrial activities that can benefit man, there is a significantly lower cost of entry to the field of software development. Significant enough that the doors are open to vast hordes of the less wealthy.
Intellectual work *is* expensive, have you every looked at the cost of R&D in corporations?
Intellectual work is expensive because the best intellects can hold out for the highest offer.
The doesn't mean that a clever person can't apply themselves to their own ends in their own time!
That's the whole point though. Patents and copyright are an artifice. They are the state overriding the natural order.
Secrets are the only "natural" intellectual property. I don't mind people keeping secrets, though, just as I don't mind them keeping tangible property.
If you believe that it's wrong to be forced into sharing knowledge, then perhaps you also feel it's wrong to be coerced into it. Patents coerce you into sharing knowledge (through the bribery of a cash reward).
Most anti-software-patent Slashdotters don't mind "normal" patents. I'm not sure if I like them either (the patents, not the Slashdotters!)
the convenient fiction of a "commons" is just a euphemism for state seizure of private property.
This is absolute pish and twaddle. If I share knowledge with my neighbour, what does the state have to do with it?
This allows them to command less money since their time is worth less to them.
I don't think it "allows" them anything; rather, they choose to do so, dependent on the level of their greed.
No, you didn't anger me! Sorry if I gave that impression! My reply was intended in good humour - but to make a point, that time is not really the same as money.
When examining time in relation to a single goal (for example, a businesses profit), yes, they are the same. But when examining time in relation to the myriad goals of people - actual or possible - then they are not.
Personally I have been supporting myself in employment for around 10 years. I have always had spare time. My need for money ("greed") has never meant that I must spend all my time making money! I don't count my hours spent in other ways as "lost" - in fact, those are the hours when I am really alive.
We are human, after all, not money-making machines.