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Calculate When You Are Most Awake
cjellibebi writes "Scientists have devised a formula that works out what times of the day you are most tired. Using their website, you can work out your alertness profile for any given day. It is also discussed on this BBC News article."
for on-the-job sleepiness when you finish the questions?
:-|
"A nap combined with 2 Pro Plus tablets will temporarily alleviate tiredness."
I don't trust a "scientific method" that ends with a sales pitch.
Seems to be pretty accurate in predicting my 3 p.m. nap after my 4-6 a.m. sleep schedule. Too bad it can't tell me what time this afternoon I'll wake up after I go to bed now.
"Come on, let's go drink till we can't feel feelings anymore."
when I'm most tired. As soon as I arrive at work... Zzzzzzz
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but there was no way to put in my real sleep schedule.
I work 3rd shift (1 am - 9 am), so most days, I end up sleeping from 2 pm - 10 pm.
"Using their website, you can work out your alertness profile for any given day."
Not for much longer, you can't. It's already getting slower...
...but you can also calculate, when their webserver will be asleep!
There's a glitch of some sort. It said that I would be noticeably tired at 16:30 and most tired at 16:30, but the graph clearly showed otherwise. The tips for tiredness also has a problem as the words aren't showing up properly.
their website took a little snooze.....
Hangover, drugs imbibed that day, energy expended dancing naked to the Transformers theme song in the morning, etc.
seems to me that saturday morning is the perfect time to post this news...anyone who's awake now (like me) obviously has a problem or a sucky job.
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I'm most awake during lunch time. Before and after I'm like one of the apes wondering what that big black box thingy is.
"Is that program finished yet?"
"URGH!"
I'm supposed to be wide awake, right now. So I guess that's why I had to read each question a dozen times before I gave up on ever being able processing a complete sentance again, and clicked on the first number I could recognize (after vainly trying to remember how a drop box works).
They told me I feel most awake while I am asleep. Cute.
I don't know about you, but I know quite well myself when I am feeling sleepy and when not. What about you?
you have been astro-turfed
next on slashdot, scientists devise a new compound said to give men a huge wang
Well, it looks like /. put the site to sleep already...
Took the test and it said I ... zzzzZZZZZ ZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ (snore ... whistle ... snore ... whistle ...)
(... hey, is that coffee I smell?)
Research shows that 67% of those who use the term "research shows", are just making shit up.
Being tired at work is *good*. Give the man your worst hours. Keep the good hours for yourself.
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Their form to enter the time I wake up in the "mornings" is flawed. No option after noon (I usually rise at 1-3 pm, go to sleep at 4-5 am).
Guess they didn't think about students. Or unemployed programmers...
Their system doesn't account for naps. I generally sleep from 3am-9am, and 6pm-8pm. Work for the man during the day. Take a nap to refresh yourself. Work for yourself at night. I've used this system on and off for a few years, and it works well.
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Set the beddy-bye time to 11:00pm and your wakeup time options are between 11:00pm and 12:00pm? I woke up at 3:00 in the afternoon fercyrinoutlound!
For anyone who may be confused by the term knackered:
Main Entry: knackered
Pronunciation: 'na-k&rd
Function: adjective
Etymology: English slang knacker to kill, tire, perhaps from knacker, n.
British : TIRED, EXHAUSTED
Maybe someone who's really English (i.e., not the fake Canadian type like myself) can expound on the etymology. IIRC it has something to do with killing old horses.
On an more related note, I have noticed that I read Slashdot when I start to tire of whatever it is I'm working on (or not working on). I believe it has something to do with the rhythm of 20-minutes of focused attention followed by a few minutes of wandering thoughts we all have.
At least that's my theory.
"It's really quite simple," he told BBC News Online. "If people are tired during the day then they are not getting enough sleep."
May I please be funded in order to come up with s.th. astounding like that ?
CC.
TaijiQuan (Huang, 5 loosenings)
... even without doing the test, I predict that their webserver isn't most awake right now ;-)
Looks like it's been /.'ed
Or, you know, you could always just pay attention to yourself.
*honk*
This is my sig. It's prescription, I swear. I need it for reading things... on the other side of things
What a worthless calculator! It only works for bed-times between 6pm and 6am.
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
I think I was on the last question. It was so exciting seeing a website just listed that hadn't crashed!
I did all the questions and t h e n.....
Now I won't know when to be tired.
OH THE HUMANITY!!!
God I'm tired...
It alternates between telling me I'm most alert at either 4:04 or 5:00 exactly. Not even sure if they are talking about AM or PM.
And what's really odd is it's not even asking me any questions before giving me my results.
I guess they figured out a way to determine when you are most alert based on your IP or something.
About 72 hours after the arrival of my first child, I was more tired than I'd ever been in my life. Just when things were starting to improve, a few years later, along came the second.
At this point, I'm not even making the interest payments on my sleep debt, and the Sandman keeps threatening to send his goons around to beat the rest of it out of me.
Am I part of the core demographic for Swedish Fish?
I don't know how scientific the whole thing is, but it's all a protracted (but low-key) advert for some kind of "pep" pills. And as if that weren't enough, the layout doesn't work for Firefox (non-portable HTML), and it's very easy to confuse its text generator.
Just walk on, folks...ank
Still hoping for Gentle Treatment...
...cause they do not count the pr0n factor!
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
...after a big pot of coffee.
I'm most awake just after going to bed. In fact I'm so awake that I might just spend the first half of the night awake. Guess I don't need to tell when I'm most tired.
Do you care about the security of your wireless mouse?
the question is, does it have an option to specify coding into the late night, drinking lots of coffee and not falling asleep before the next day at school ? (I could not test this since their server seems to be taking a nap right now.)
-If master Yoda so strong in the force be, why then proper english he cannot speak ?
Doolittle :
Bomb no.20 : To explode of course.
I fell asleep waiting the page to load due to the slashdot effect.
Who is John Galt?
The poll also found that men and women experience tiredness differently. Some 64% of women said they become irritable when tired. Men said they make more mistakes.
But, um, isn't that just the usual gender stereotype (it might have some truth to it, I'm not judging)? Women being more aware of their emotions while men are more performance driven?
Next thing you know, they notice alcohol affects men and women differently: men can't change tires, while women can't find their eyeliner in their purse.
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.... gone to sleep, Jim.
The requested URL / was not found on this server.
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"It's really quite simple," he told BBC News Online. "If people are tired during the day then they are not getting enough sleep."
And next on BBC:
"If you are thirsty, drink!", scientist claims.
Please, you buggers, post links to the Google Cache of small sites and not the sites themselves, to stop the sites going down (and then Google updating). It's really frustrating to click on a link and find a completely blank page - and find that Google has updated as well! Raaaahhhhh!
Looks like they just removed all files in their wwwroot dir in an effort to wake up the server. All I get is a directory listing.
$ mv *.sig >/dev/null
why don't you just quite whinging and go to sleep... permanently
So many complaints about being tired. You guys should really decrease on your daily dose of sex.
Oh wait.
"Calculate When You Are Most Awake"?
That's blindingly obvious, isn't it? I mean, I do most of my calculating at about 4:30am (when the birds start singing and the sleepiness clears).
What, are most people foolishly doing their important calculations at 9am or some other such gibbering horror of an hour?
There are only 10 types of people: those who understand decimal, those who don't, and, uh, 8 other types I forget.
but where can I find a tool to calculate when exactly to catch my boss asleep?
Apparently they're using some sort of new-fangled time system where hours have more than 60 minutes. The results came out as:
"You will start to feel noticeably tired at 15:60 and you will feel most tired at 17:60"
15:60? 17:60?
For me, it basically says that I am never alert. I did a 4am-9am sleep pattern, which is actually being on the generous side for me: I normally sleep more like 4 hours. I had bad insomnia for years, and just "got used to" sleeping little I suppose. Somewhere after 4-5 hours I will wake up without an alarm, and I won't be "exhausted" all day...In fact, sometimes I'm not tired by 4am, but get myself off to bed anyway.
/.-ers who have cried "marketing scheme."
Apaarently, this means that I am in fact never alert. I have to agree with other
... it predicts when you're going to be the most tired. And it asks:
"At what time of day do you feel at your best?"
OK, if you know when you feel your best, don't you think its likely you already know when you're worst?
so it asks when i feel most alert, and low and behold it tells me when im most alert!
One of the questions said "How many units of alcohol did you consume last night?" Isn't this somewhat redundant? Almost no-one drinks moderately, therefore by the time you answer the question you had already been too drunk to remember anything to answer the question accurately.
My conspiracy theory is that behind all the feedback is our lurking bad conscience that most of us actually do not sleep enough and hence do not do as well as we could when we're awake.
On the other hand it is more interesting to sit up all night chatting with friends or even to watch some of the lousy tele shows or writing cobol code than to sleep. Unless you have really fun dreams.
"Your results:
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You will start to feel noticeably tired at 17:00 and you will feel most tired at 17:00"
jesus, you can also calculate when their webserver will be asleep. Slashdotted again!!!
I will, perhaps foolishly, jump in with two real book recommendations.
The shorter of the two is Stanley Coren's "Sleep Thieves." It goes quite heavily into the various consequences of sleep deprivation. It's quite scary.
The longer of the two -- and probably more informative on the biology of sleep -- is William Dement's "The Promise of Sleep." Dement is viewed by many as the leading sleep researcher in the United States.
It will take you much longer to read this books than take the linked for test, but you'll be much better informed. You might even be able to marshall substantial arguments against a PHB's death march.
Both books also have tests to take to find out how sleep deprived you are. There are also recommendations for treating this condition.
Both are available from your favorite book seller.
"Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- B. Franklin
Easy enough:
:)
Before morning coffee: tired as hell
after first morning coffee: I'm alive!
after second morning coffee: ahh it is a fine day indeed.
during the rest of the day the second morning coffee feeling is sustained by regular dosis of cafeine.
easy does it
Ik denk altijd goed na, voordat ik iets stoms zeg.
The parent is still 0. Looks like the mods are asleep.
ProPlus is the main (only?) brand of caffeinated pep-pills here in the UK; their tag-line is "for relief of temporary tiredness" or somesuch.
Sure enough, in the results they show that I never even make it as awake as "little sleepy", let alone "alert". If that were true, I'd have been out of a job (or dead from lack of attention when crossing the road) a long, long time ago. Funny then that I spend most of my Saturdays dancing from around midnight til 7:30am, and all without any chemical assistance...
It's official. Most of you are morons.
I am most awake five minutes _after_ I fail my finals. That way I can devote all of my waking energy to finding a McDonalds to flip burgers at.
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Scientists have devised a formula that works out what times of the day you are most tired.
Funny, when you go to the website, you tell them when you sleep, when you are tired, when you feel awake, and then they graph your answers out. Ummmmm....that is truly amaaaaazing.
Authority questions you. Return the favor.
Lisa: This is madness. He's just peddling a bunch of easy answers.
Carl: And how!
What time of the day are you horniest?
I'm always awake the most when I want to go to sleep. Supply and demand I guess.
At the end of the test,
You will start to feel noticeably tired at 15:00 and you will feel most tired at 15:00
But if I'm just starting to feel noticeably tired at 15:00 shouldn't I be most tired sometime after 15:00?!
The sad thing is that I was giving it honest info!
I stole this Sig
Where neoliberal propaganda urges us to push ourselves ever harder, even to the point where we are supposed to be concerned about how alert we are at every waking moment.
eat shiat and bark at the moon
The site is obviously an ad, but they did a fairly good job at predicting my low points in the day.
At 2:30 in the afternoon, I'm usually completely wiped out, and occasionally I'll end up face down on the keyboard.
I used to sleep so much better when I was physically active. Now, it's get up, commute, sit like lump at desk all day, become unmotivated due to typical work day, get home, sit around the home or at the computer all evening because I've got no energy.
Life was better when I went rollerblading every day, before my knees went to hell.
I bet exercise a few times a week would be a hell of a lot more effective than that little caffeine pill.
And someone should do a study on what professions tend to get better sleep. I bet a construction worker will have insomnia 10 times less than a desk jockey.
The time when I'm most awake is not early mornings, despite what my boss thinks it should be.
Don't get me wrong... I think this is a very interesting study and the data I got back seemed accurate. I was just a little uneasy about answering questions #6 and #7. The questions were...
6.) What is your complete mailing address?
7.) While you are sleeping, do you think you would wake up if someone broke into your house, stole your valuables, and used your toothbrush?
I don't know what my mailing address has to do w/ how tired I am.
Is power napping sleeping during elcetric shock therapy? I don't think my insurance covers this..
They ask how much alcohol you drank, but what about caffinated beverages?
Every afternoon, roundabout 1:45, I begin to feel sleepy. If I immediately nap then I will automatically wake up after 20 minutes feeling refreshed and alert. If I do not nap, then I drag the remainder of the afternoon.
As the nap begins I start to dream about music, then the usual dream images, then I fall into a deep sleep, only to wake at the 20-minute time. No alarm required!
It is important that I not be disturbed during the nap, so I wear 33-db earplugs and disconnect the phone.
I'd love to see this in an excel sheet or something of the sorts... take this hypothetical scenario:
I have a big meeting tomorrow at 2 in the afternoon. I have a party to go to tonight. With something like this by playing with the data, I could plan out how many drinks I can have and what time I should theoretically leave the party.
Then, the next morning I realize I didn't stick to my plan, i can quickly calculate how screwed I am.
Isn't science and technology wonderful! How did geeks ever party before???
This propaganda survey assumes that I only go to sleep once a day.
Or pill pushers? Well, I certainly got sucked in..."Puppy Uppers", for when you feel like this:Zzzzzz..."Doggy Downers", for when you feel like this: "Woo-hoo!!!" "yeah, baby!", "Yay!", "I wanna kill, I wanna kill, I wanna see veins in my teeth!" However, the answer provided did jibe with how I feel in the afternoon.
What?
The BBC Charter prevents them from advertising. Yet they can run a "story" that is just a hidden advert for Pro-plus caffeine pills. I'm going to demand a refund on my TV licence fee.
Sigs. We don't need no steenking sigs.
I like this site. What time do you go to bed and wake up? Are you a morning person or a night owl? When do you feel most alert? How easily do you wake up in the morning? How well do you sleep? etc.
Sort of like asking what card you are holding before before magically guessing what card you picked.
After asking all that, they draw a line graph that matches your answers. I didn't go on to the recommendation page, so I didn't get to see how many no-doze I need to take a day to be 'normal'.
"I slaughtered this horse last Tuesday. I'm 'fraid she's startin' to turn..."
Practitioners use this diagnostically by associating when people have a major dip in their energy level to show them which energy needs to be strengthened, which may indicate a pathology in that associated organ.
The individual energies correlate to five elements that are each expressed by particular flavors, seasons, colors etc. and they will recommend a person increase their exposure to the things associated with the element where their energy is weakest.
It would be interesting to see if the times of people's energetic nadir as predicted by this system or observed empirically did correlate to physical or emotional issues as predicted by this ancient system.
I have to tell you I have been pretty skeptical learning about it all but there are a lot things that correlate with accepted western medical theory and some intuitive things that are just dead on, whether I believe in it or not.
I go to bed at 4:30AM and get up at 2:00PM. First problem, that's not an available choice. On exceptional days, I go to bed at 2:30AM and get up at 12:30 noon, that was available, so that's what I picked. It asked me when I feel most awake or something like that. One choice was 11AM to 5PM, the other from 5PM to 11PM or something. Well, I obviously don't feel most awake at 11AM. So I ended up picking 5PM to 11PM.
Net result? I will start to feel tired at 5:30PM. I will feel most tired at 5:30PM.
What the hell?
I use the Linux version of Firefox 0.8 under Slackware 9.1 and had garbled text on "Tiredness Facts" page. I got to the last page before I ran into the problem. On the last page some lines of text were garbled and others were perfect. I then tried using Galeon 1.3.9 and then Epiphany 1.0 and had the same problem with each of those.
It is a silly test anyway. I already knew that it takes 2 hours after I get up in the morning before I really "wake up" and that my energy level is at it peak during the 4 hours just before I go to bed. For me, it is natural to want to sleep during the day and stay awake at night. When I was in the 9th grade a pediatrician prescribed stimulants to try and wake me up during school hours but was unsuccessful.
Up until the age of 30 I got tired just after breakfast and then again after lunch. At the age of 30 I discovered that if I switched from eggs for breakfast to oatmeal, the extreme mid-morning tiredness totally went away. After I stopped eating eggs for breakfast I had strong withdrawl symptoms for 10 days but the dead tiredness went away immediatly. However, it still took me two hours to wake up but at least I did finally wake up.
Back before discovering the cause of my mid-morning tiredness I drove a dumptruck for a while and always had trouble staying awake while driving. I usually got 8 hours of sleep but wished it would have been possible to take a nap. A nap always solved the problem, coffee did not help. I had to discover the deit related cause of the problem on my own without the help of the medical profession. Except for that one pediatricain, most doctors that I went to were either dissintered or accused me of being a hypochondriac. If I had not solved the tiredness problem I would have commited suicide. The important lesson that I learned was that if doctors were not interested I had to solve the problem myself.
I go to sleep at 3 am and wake up at 9 am. I am most awake from 12-1pm and after 7pm... meaning, i am most awake during lunch time at work and after work ends and most sleepy during work.
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I go to bed at 9am and wake up at like 4pm. This site won't let me sleep at those times. I could calculate my alertness based on this site, but I though this site was supposed to do the calculating for me.
Mark
I had problems with the very first question: "What time do you go to sleep at night?" "Choose one." ONE!?!?! How about a range, bubba! Or, where's "when I feel tired?" Where's "depends on whether I had to get up early for a meeting or something that day?" Where's "depends on how much caffeine I consumed that day?" :)
Adverts count as news these days?
Next time I crave enlightenment, I'll fire up a clean install of Windows ME and browse to bonzibuddy.com.
In this world nothing is certain but death, taxes and flawed car analogies.
Great story, love to get a pitch for caffeine pills disguised as science. Nice catch editARDS
From my fortune after reading the comments:
"He who hoots with owls by night cannot soar with eagles by day."
Next thing you know, there will be a "Eat less, exercise more" fortune on an article about obesity.
He who hoots with owls by night cannot soar with eagles by day.
Im most awake when the caffeine kicks in you insensitive clod!
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I think you mean "mostly". Plus I think this one's been used; eh, whatever.
I just stick with a Dr. Pepper at 10 2 and 4.