Word from the wise; "clearly not" is a giveaway that an opinion is about to follow.
Word from the wise; all statements are opinion.
Some people believe that consciousness is only a biochemical reaction.
You're leading into word games now. You need to define "biochemical reaction" before any discussion can proceed without the risk that you assign it an arbitrary meainng at some later stage.
love is only a biochemical reaction Love is clearly not "only a biochemical reaction"; it may be founded in such, or manifest itself as such, but love, like all emotion, is also a quality of consciousness.
Well, fuck them. I think you'll find that psychedelic drugs have considerably greater variety, challenge and potential for exploration than spectator sport.
By the way, in case you misinterpreted what I wrote, I don't think I am superior to anyone, though my actions, words and beliefs most definitely are superior to those of a lot of people.
In my view anyone who thinks they are superior is exhibiting inferior behaviour.
Speak for yourself, I only get bored when I am prevented from getting on with one of many stimulating diversions to occupy my mind and body: computing, philosophy, science, politics, reading, psychedelic drugs, listening to music, making music, cycling, hillwalking, astronomy, linguistics, electronics, sex, debate, being obsessive about vegeterianism, photography, work, meditation, and so on.
I don't consider myself at all special; I just know that there are too many stimulating things and not enough time to experience them all before I die.
Sitting watching other people compete physically (i.e. watching sport) has been stimulating once or twice in my life but I'm sorry, there simply isn't much variety in it, and to spend any more time on it I would see as a waste of that time.
So no, I think anyone of even average intelligence is perfectly capable of never being so bored they have to watch sport.
You hit the nail with "supply and demand" but you go on to describe scarcity; of course, spectator sport is less about scarcity and more about demand... which is the "mindless consumerism" of which your parent wrote.
The main simplicity is in the minds of the consumers.
One might ask what right Linus has to dictate an installer package. As much as they decide what goes into the kernel or how the directory structure should be maintained, etc is the same as ensuring that consistency across distro's for app installation.
Why? The distributers decide what goes into their kernel because they are the distributers... the GPL gives them the right to modify the kernel as they see fit. However they have absolutely no say as to what goes into Linus' BitKeeper repository - Linus and Linus alone decides that.
So Linus gets absolutely no say on what package management tool to use. Because he has absolutely nothing to do with package management, he is simply the lead engineer on the Linux Kernel development project. I would imagine if you were to ask his opinion on such things he would say he doesn't care as that's "userland".
There really is a distinction between the distro and Linux. Linux really is just a kernel. And Linus really is just the (main) Linux developer. The FSF may overstate the case with GNU/Linux but there really is a valid point. The operating system as a whole is much more than the kernel.
To make it as clear as possible with a real-world example: Debian is a distribution with Linux as it's kernel. It is also a distribution with NetBSD as it's kernel. Hurd too, as it can run with these kernels replacing Linux.
The idea of these systems being "Linux distros" is limiting and false. They are Free Software operating systems. Many Free Software OSes happen to share a common kernel - Linux. Some don't. Some can use several kernels. This is reality. Anything else is oversimplification.
Get it out of your head. Linus has nothing to do with package management. And that's as it should be.
If you want a central body dictating package management policy look instead to the LSB. It's a shame that's misnamed too...
I think someone is abusing the moderation system. This post is not a troll, but has been moderated as such twice. I suspect someone has hacked slashdot.
It's not just AOL. I hit this today sending mail to my webmail account at linuxmail.org - run by Outblaze. I get an SMTP 554 pointing me here.
I've been running my own SMTP server for a couple of years now, because it gives me control, because I get to learn how mail works hands-on, and because I don't have to rely on my ISP's mail server (they run Exchange) Looks like it's not going to be possible anymore.
Bad practice to reply to my own post but I am stunned at the ignorant moderation done to my post.
There was a subtle point in my post. It escaped certain people, obviously. The parent expressed a concern that this technology would be unsuitable for implementation due to it abetting criminals in their activities. My point is that we create such problems for ourselves by the unjudicious application of legal interference in people's personal lives.
If we eradicate such meddling then we eradicate the side effects too, and technology can develop as it should - unfettered by irrelevant restrictions.
I think it would have been OK if the logo did not look like a child's cartoon. Change that to a small, modern logo and stick it discretely to the top left of the phone. Get rid of the blue and the stupid "disposable CELL PHONE" and you have something almost ipod-ish. The keypad is fairly nicely laid out.
Remember Tony Martin, the farmer who sat at the bottom of his staircase, in the dark with a rifle, and shot two innocent young lads who broke into his house? This is the kind of issue that divides a country in two, and is rocket fuel for Any Answers. I love Any Answers.
Well, I just bought a Thinkpad, stuck Debian on it, didn't configure anything beyond the defaults, and type looks more beautiful than any other computer / operating system combo I've seen, including the mac I'm currently sitting at. I haven't worked it out yet, but the Thinkpad display is simply divine; perhaps it's something to do with the hardware.
I don't understand. You say Linux is now "no better" than other Unices, that it's now just "another *nix".
The only thing that's changed, as far as you are concerned, is that you have to pay licences for non-production machines.
<sarcasm>
I weep for you. This "golden age" of cheapness has passed. Clearly this is a travesty. Mother Earth has been wounded deeply. An evil shadow has slithered over the land.
</sarcasm>
If the only thing you care about is not having to pay for your licenses then you are indeed shallow. If a golden age, to you, is measured simply by the amount of change in your pocket, then you are no friend of Linux, Free Software, or humanity in general.
In over 3 years of running a network of several Debian machines (servers and workstations) behind a Debian firewall, with an Apache web server, and SSH access to the firewall (but not from the outside), and FTP access to internal machines from certain privileged machines (my dayjob proxies), oh, and an Apple Mac running OS9 and Mozilla Mail, all of this up mostly 24x7, I have never I repeat NEVER had a worm, virus or malware of any kind on any of my machines. Meanwhile my Windows using friends and colleagues constantly report their computers doing "strange things" like applications popping up that they never installed... and having to reinstall every six months of course.
I see it in my firewall logs. Constant scans on port 135. ida?????? http://root.exe backdoor.dll rubbish. None of it get's in, and if it did it wouldn't matter anyway.
Linux may not be the answer to everything, but I sleep much easier knowing I am in control of my machines.
And in/etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
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What's your logic? What does "chemically based" mean?
let me see.
Drugs are chemicals.
Drugs alter consciousness
Therefore...
Consciousness must be a chemical?
Consciousness must be a property of chemicals?
Consciousness is an energy emitted by chemicals?
Why not just:
Consciousness interacts with the chemicals of the brain.
Or even:
There are things about chemicals and animals which we don't understand properly and may never.
Perhaps the sun is not shining.
Perhaps you are actually a disembodied brain hooked up to virtual reality hardware.
Perhaps you are dreaming. Perhaps your eyes deceive you.
In the presence of the possibility that a statement is false, the statement must be an opinion - excepting this one, which is verifiably true.
Word from the wise; "clearly not" is a giveaway that an opinion is about to follow.
Word from the wise; all statements are opinion.
Some people believe that consciousness is only a biochemical reaction.
You're leading into word games now. You need to define "biochemical reaction" before any discussion can proceed without the risk that you assign it an arbitrary meainng at some later stage.
love is only a biochemical reaction
Love is clearly not "only a biochemical reaction"; it may be founded in such, or manifest itself as such, but love, like all emotion, is also a quality of consciousness.
Try "I'm sure that looks very snazzy on the screen of the person who developed it, [...]"
Kind of like how we can have Slackware/Debian and then have Redhat and Suse.
I thought you were making a lot of sense, then I read this bit where you admit you are really a troll.
Well, fuck them. I think you'll find that psychedelic drugs have considerably greater variety, challenge and potential for exploration than spectator sport.
By the way, in case you misinterpreted what I wrote, I don't think I am superior to anyone, though my actions, words and beliefs most definitely are superior to those of a lot of people.
In my view anyone who thinks they are superior is exhibiting inferior behaviour.
we're just intelligent enough to get bored
Speak for yourself, I only get bored when I am prevented from getting on with one of many stimulating diversions to occupy my mind and body: computing, philosophy, science, politics, reading, psychedelic drugs, listening to music, making music, cycling, hillwalking, astronomy, linguistics, electronics, sex, debate, being obsessive about vegeterianism, photography, work, meditation, and so on.
I don't consider myself at all special; I just know that there are too many stimulating things and not enough time to experience them all before I die.
Sitting watching other people compete physically (i.e. watching sport) has been stimulating once or twice in my life but I'm sorry, there simply isn't much variety in it, and to spend any more time on it I would see as a waste of that time.
So no, I think anyone of even average intelligence is perfectly capable of never being so bored they have to watch sport.
Thanks for reminding me. For a moment I forgot what I was.
But if he fills seats and turns on TV's, then thats all that matters.
What a marvellous way for an intelligent species to organise itself.
You hit the nail with "supply and demand" but you go on to describe scarcity; of course, spectator sport is less about scarcity and more about demand... which is the "mindless consumerism" of which your parent wrote.
The main simplicity is in the minds of the consumers.
One might ask what right Linus has to dictate an installer package. As much as they decide what goes into the kernel or how the directory structure should be maintained, etc is the same as ensuring that consistency across distro's for app installation.
Why? The distributers decide what goes into their kernel because they are the distributers... the GPL gives them the right to modify the kernel as they see fit. However they have absolutely no say as to what goes into Linus' BitKeeper repository - Linus and Linus alone decides that.
So Linus gets absolutely no say on what package management tool to use. Because he has absolutely nothing to do with package management, he is simply the lead engineer on the Linux Kernel development project. I would imagine if you were to ask his opinion on such things he would say he doesn't care as that's "userland".
There really is a distinction between the distro and Linux. Linux really is just a kernel. And Linus really is just the (main) Linux developer. The FSF may overstate the case with GNU/Linux but there really is a valid point. The operating system as a whole is much more than the kernel.
To make it as clear as possible with a real-world example: Debian is a distribution with Linux as it's kernel. It is also a distribution with NetBSD as it's kernel. Hurd too, as it can run with these kernels replacing Linux.
The idea of these systems being "Linux distros" is limiting and false. They are Free Software operating systems. Many Free Software OSes happen to share a common kernel - Linux. Some don't. Some can use several kernels. This is reality. Anything else is oversimplification.
Get it out of your head. Linus has nothing to do with package management. And that's as it should be.
If you want a central body dictating package management policy look instead to the LSB. It's a shame that's misnamed too...
Some idiot is having a field day.
I think someone is abusing the moderation system. This post is not a troll, but has been moderated as such twice. I suspect someone has hacked slashdot.
It's not just AOL. I hit this today sending mail to my webmail account at linuxmail.org - run by Outblaze. I get an SMTP 554 pointing me here.
I've been running my own SMTP server for a couple of years now, because it gives me control, because I get to learn how mail works hands-on, and because I don't have to rely on my ISP's mail server (they run Exchange) Looks like it's not going to be possible anymore.
Bad practice to reply to my own post but I am stunned at the ignorant moderation done to my post.
There was a subtle point in my post. It escaped certain people, obviously. The parent expressed a concern that this technology would be unsuitable for implementation due to it abetting criminals in their activities. My point is that we create such problems for ourselves by the unjudicious application of legal interference in people's personal lives.
If we eradicate such meddling then we eradicate the side effects too, and technology can develop as it should - unfettered by irrelevant restrictions.
Simple answer: Legalise all drugs.
Bang!!! - No more illicit dealers.
I think it would have been OK if the logo did not look like a child's cartoon. Change that to a small, modern logo and stick it discretely to the top left of the phone. Get rid of the blue and the stupid "disposable CELL PHONE" and you have something almost ipod-ish. The keypad is fairly nicely laid out.
On that SCO note, SCO Unix is (was?) a fairly major telephony platform too. Perhaps IBM have loads of SCO servers they want rid of?
Mod parent up! I am not alone!
Remember Tony Martin, the farmer who sat at the bottom of his staircase, in the dark with a rifle, and shot two innocent young lads who broke into his house? This is the kind of issue that divides a country in two, and is rocket fuel for Any Answers. I love Any Answers.
As no-one else has asked, may I have your hand in marriage?
In general I agree, but I find the News Quiz a little lame. Quote Unquote is another disaster area.
Has anyone mentioned Home Truths? Used to be fantastic before John Peel left.
Well, I just bought a Thinkpad, stuck Debian on it, didn't configure anything beyond the defaults, and type looks more beautiful than any other computer / operating system combo I've seen, including the mac I'm currently sitting at. I haven't worked it out yet, but the Thinkpad display is simply divine; perhaps it's something to do with the hardware.
The only thing that's changed, as far as you are concerned, is that you have to pay licences for non-production machines.I weep for you. This "golden age" of cheapness has passed. Clearly this is a travesty. Mother Earth has been wounded deeply. An evil shadow has slithered over the land.If the only thing you care about is not having to pay for your licenses then you are indeed shallow. If a golden age, to you, is measured simply by the amount of change in your pocket, then you are no friend of Linux, Free Software, or humanity in general.
In over 3 years of running a network of several Debian machines (servers and workstations) behind a Debian firewall, with an Apache web server, and SSH access to the firewall (but not from the outside), and FTP access to internal machines from certain privileged machines (my dayjob proxies), oh, and an Apple Mac running OS9 and Mozilla Mail, all of this up mostly 24x7, I have never I repeat NEVER had a worm, virus or malware of any kind on any of my machines. Meanwhile my Windows using friends and colleagues constantly report their computers doing "strange things" like applications popping up that they never installed... and having to reinstall every six months of course.
/etc/apt/sources.list
/usr/sbin/apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
I see it in my firewall logs. Constant scans on port 135. ida?????? http://root.exe backdoor.dll rubbish. None of it get's in, and if it did it wouldn't matter anyway.
Linux may not be the answer to everything, but I sleep much easier knowing I am in control of my machines.
And in
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
root's cron
0 6 * * *
thus closing the apache and ssh bugs as soon as a fix appears (this being Debian is ASAP).