I used to have a car. I also cycle. For me they were once competitors.
I had various criteria by which I measured the competing modes of transport available to me:
Cost
Environmental impact
Contribution to my health
Comfort
Speed
Convenience
Stress
In all but speed and comfort the bike won out. I got rid of the car. They were once competitors but the bike eventually won.
My girlfriend has a car. I rarely use it. You might say that it is an alternative to my bike (but not a competitor - my bike is my preferred mode of transport). Only when the bike is totally unsuited (carrying heavy loads) do I use her car. I maintain the option of public transport as an alternative to my bike for longer distances, but it is not a competitor, the bike wins in the general case.
If we were talking about competition between models of car then word 'competition' is even more a propos. All of them do the job - like all modern GUI browsers - but some are more attractive to some people. They compete! If I buy a Ford, it isn't an alternative to the Honda - there's no point in having both if they both do the job in more or less the same way. You choose what suits you best. Unless your stupidly rich with multiple cars, in which case it's more of a whim than a competition or an alternative.
I use Galeon. I am forced to use IE at work, but that's neither a competitor or an alternative. Galeon won against the competition (Mozilla, Opera, Netscape 4.x, Lynx). Now, I do use Lynx occasionally, when I can't use Galeon for whatever reason. Then, it's an alternative.
But as for the competition, Galeon ruled the day.
My point is, where there are various choices (alternatives) with comparable features (cars can be compared with bikes, Galeon can be compared with Opera) then for each person there is a competition as to which is their preferred choice.
The environment is called a market. The options are called competitors.
Secondly, 4.7 may be fast but it's handling of CSS is absolutely abysmal. No point clicking on my homepage (which has been verified as HTML 4.01 and CSS compliant by the W3C validators).
Bollocks. Even if it becomes mainstream, any crap that goes into to Free Software to screw the masses can always be removed prior to compilation on my box, and because it's clued up hackers that do the software, it's so much less likely to go in the first place. And hey, Debian aren't going to ship spyware now, are they?
Last I knew, Alan eats, sleeps, breathes, watches rugby matches, drinks beer, socialises and probably even has sex with Telsa now and again (sorry for being personal).
I suppose all this contributes towards a healthy state of mind for kernel development.
I agree with everything you say except I don't see what's wrong with a service and support company calling itself a Free Software company if it sells service and support (primarily) for Free Software.
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That's all we do for any other dimension in space-time - Measure change.
I'm not sure. If I measure the distance between two independent points (or objects) what change am I measuring, if nothing has moved?
On the other hand, if an object has moved, it is convenient to say that 'now' is different from 'then', and introduce the concept of time, but that doesn't mean that time has to actually pass. Things just change, and it's convenient for us to plot that change on an imaginary 'time' axis. 'Time passes' = 'change occurs'. If nothing ever changed, then firstly we wouldn't exist, but secondly we'd need no concept of time to explain things.
That's how it seems to me, anyway...
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But he just needs to go back before the Patent Office started and start it himself... but then anyone can. Really, he needs to go back to the start of time and open a patent office.
On a serious note, I don't see why people think time exists at all. Is there any evidence for it being anything other than a convenient way to measure change?
Are you sure you can't run it on those? It should be OK on HP-UX, Windows... well, run it off a Unix box with Exceed or something?
I've stopped using GQView since I read the original post...
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I just ran out of mod points, sorry.
The point of free software is you can easily cut out the blood-sucking middle man.
Power migrates in the direction of the end-user. Lineo tried to be a blood-sucking middle man, just like so many other failed companies.
It's the big end-users who are willing to say "We can support this ourselves, we don't need third party services" who could provide a niche for GPL'd software. There's not many around just now, they need to wake up and employ a couple of C coders.
I was going to mod you up, but you could have quoted this:
Now adapts rendering method for big images. When the number of pixels in the image exceeds the value set by image-bigness-threshold (as set in config file or on command-line, defaulting to 2 million pixels), it's drawn piece-by-piece on demand rather than all-at-once. The all-at-once behaviour is worth keeping around for smaller images, as it gives much nicer scrolling - but for big images it's just impractical, hence this feature.
Which sounds like just the ticket. You could also have linked to the website.
Now comes the important part. in a month, I'm switching over to a completely linux system, and I'm gonna need a replacement for Office. so who's it gonna be?:)
OpenOffice looks good, but when I tried it several times during 2001 it was slow and crashed all the flaming time. I'm sure it's improving but I got bored waiting. Therefore:
To replace Word: KWord looks cool, but I couldn't get equations to work properly. LyX is really nice if you take the time to understand the concepts behind LaTeX and WYMIWYG. LyX especially rocks for editing equations, but it'll do everything else you could want too, and the output is beautiful. Abiword isn't there yet (tables etc.) but might be one day.
To replace Excel: Gnumeric.
To replace Outlook: I actually use IMP, a webmail application. I retrieve pop3 email with fetchmail, make it available via IMAP (one of Debian's IMAP packages) and access it with IMP, on apache-ssl for security, from home and anywhere else with an internet connection. Best thing about IMP is it's the fastest email client I've used! I have folders with hundreds, some with thousands, of emails and the likes of Balsa or Evolution can take forever to access them (if they don't crash). IMP takes seconds, and it never crashes! (I use Galeon for my web browsing/ IMP access). The HORDE project of which IMP is a part is actually an entire groupware suite, but I've only used IMP.
PowerPoint: MagicPoint looks pretty good but I've never used it.
Access: Postgresql or mysql should more than meet your needs. There are nice GUI tools available for both.
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If you're talking to me, you're preaching to the converted.
It appears that Xiph have made the integerised codec proprietary.
But I believe we're just quibbling over the defn of competition and market.
Heh... I still don't agree! But as you say, it's probably down to a difference in our understanding of the words 'competitor' and 'alternative'...
I used to have a car. I also cycle. For me they were once competitors.
I had various criteria by which I measured the competing modes of transport available to me:
In all but speed and comfort the bike won out. I got rid of the car. They were once competitors but the bike eventually won.
My girlfriend has a car. I rarely use it. You might say that it is an alternative to my bike (but not a competitor - my bike is my preferred mode of transport). Only when the bike is totally unsuited (carrying heavy loads) do I use her car. I maintain the option of public transport as an alternative to my bike for longer distances, but it is not a competitor, the bike wins in the general case.
If we were talking about competition between models of car then word 'competition' is even more a propos. All of them do the job - like all modern GUI browsers - but some are more attractive to some people. They compete! If I buy a Ford, it isn't an alternative to the Honda - there's no point in having both if they both do the job in more or less the same way. You choose what suits you best. Unless your stupidly rich with multiple cars, in which case it's more of a whim than a competition or an alternative.
I use Galeon. I am forced to use IE at work, but that's neither a competitor or an alternative. Galeon won against the competition (Mozilla, Opera, Netscape 4.x, Lynx). Now, I do use Lynx occasionally, when I can't use Galeon for whatever reason. Then, it's an alternative.
But as for the competition, Galeon ruled the day.
My point is, where there are various choices (alternatives) with comparable features (cars can be compared with bikes, Galeon can be compared with Opera) then for each person there is a competition as to which is their preferred choice.
The environment is called a market. The options are called competitors.
Am I making no sense?
Please ignore my first point, I misread the thread resulting in verbal diarrhoea.
Firstly he wasn't talking about 4.7, he said 6.2
Secondly, 4.7 may be fast but it's handling of CSS is absolutely abysmal. No point clicking on my homepage (which has been verified as HTML 4.01 and CSS compliant by the W3C validators).
Thirly, tabbed browsing is so very, very cool.
Bollocks. Even if it becomes mainstream, any crap that goes into to Free Software to screw the masses can always be removed prior to compilation on my box, and because it's clued up hackers that do the software, it's so much less likely to go in the first place. And hey, Debian aren't going to ship spyware now, are they?
Are they?
I wonder if you will get modded flamebait too for pointing out the bleeding obvious.
:-)
Probably not, you have a much nicer way with words than me
Flamebait?
Looks like the moderators are smoking pot and wearing sandals...
Do you have a point or do you just like rambling?
In a market, Alternative <=> Competitor.
I thought Xiph were dedicated to free software and open standards.
Last I knew, Alan eats, sleeps, breathes, watches rugby matches, drinks beer, socialises and probably even has sex with Telsa now and again (sorry for being personal).
I suppose all this contributes towards a healthy state of mind for kernel development.
Which, using simple logic, is equivalent to them working to sell product.
will upgrade a Gentoo Linux system from the freshest source?
Fresh does not mean:
I agree with everything you say except I don't see what's wrong with a service and support company calling itself a Free Software company if it sells service and support (primarily) for Free Software.
Nobody is.
I think these people are, and these too though they won't answer my emails..
Have a look at the Free Software Services Directory for more people/companies who appear to be cashing in on Free Software.
That's all we do for any other dimension in space-time - Measure change.
I'm not sure. If I measure the distance between two independent points (or objects) what change am I measuring, if nothing has moved?
On the other hand, if an object has moved, it is convenient to say that 'now' is different from 'then', and introduce the concept of time, but that doesn't mean that time has to actually pass. Things just change, and it's convenient for us to plot that change on an imaginary 'time' axis. 'Time passes' = 'change occurs'. If nothing ever changed, then firstly we wouldn't exist, but secondly we'd need no concept of time to explain things.
That's how it seems to me, anyway...
But he just needs to go back before the Patent Office started and start it himself... but then anyone can. Really, he needs to go back to the start of time and open a patent office.
On a serious note, I don't see why people think time exists at all. Is there any evidence for it being anything other than a convenient way to measure change?
Are you sure you can't run it on those? It should be OK on HP-UX, Windows... well, run it off a Unix box with Exceed or something?
I've stopped using GQView since I read the original post...
I just ran out of mod points, sorry.
The point of free software is you can easily cut out the blood-sucking middle man.
Power migrates in the direction of the end-user. Lineo tried to be a blood-sucking middle man, just like so many other failed companies.
It's the big end-users who are willing to say "We can support this ourselves, we don't need third party services" who could provide a niche for GPL'd software. There's not many around just now, they need to wake up and employ a couple of C coders.
I was going to mod you up, but you could have quoted this:
Now adapts rendering method for big images. When the number of pixels in the image exceeds the value set by image-bigness-threshold (as set in config file or on command-line, defaulting to 2 million pixels), it's drawn piece-by-piece on demand rather than all-at-once. The all-at-once behaviour is worth keeping around for smaller images, as it gives much nicer scrolling - but for big images it's just impractical, hence this feature.
Which sounds like just the ticket. You could also have linked to the website.
Here ends sydb's lesson in karmah whoring.
But the parent is talking about the install process of the OS. How do you compile the install process if you don't have a system to compile it on?
Of course, the question is naive in that you don't do that, you need a binary bootstrap of some kind.
User-mode Linux is somewhat interesting but doesn't seem compelling enough to change from slack\SuSE\debian, etc.
User mode linux is part of Debian unstable anyway, and there are RPMs for download at the UML web site.
And it is a great toy / tool.
Now comes the important part. in a month, I'm switching over to a completely linux system, and I'm gonna need a replacement for Office. so who's it gonna be?:)
OpenOffice looks good, but when I tried it several times during 2001 it was slow and crashed all the flaming time. I'm sure it's improving but I got bored waiting. Therefore:
To replace Word: KWord looks cool, but I couldn't get equations to work properly. LyX is really nice if you take the time to understand the concepts behind LaTeX and WYMIWYG. LyX especially rocks for editing equations, but it'll do everything else you could want too, and the output is beautiful. Abiword isn't there yet (tables etc.) but might be one day.
To replace Excel: Gnumeric.
To replace Outlook: I actually use IMP, a webmail application. I retrieve pop3 email with fetchmail, make it available via IMAP (one of Debian's IMAP packages) and access it with IMP, on apache-ssl for security, from home and anywhere else with an internet connection. Best thing about IMP is it's the fastest email client I've used! I have folders with hundreds, some with thousands, of emails and the likes of Balsa or Evolution can take forever to access them (if they don't crash). IMP takes seconds, and it never crashes! (I use Galeon for my web browsing/ IMP access). The HORDE project of which IMP is a part is actually an entire groupware suite, but I've only used IMP.
PowerPoint: MagicPoint looks pretty good but I've never used it.
Access: Postgresql or mysql should more than meet your needs. There are nice GUI tools available for both.
Best of luck.
It's Van Der Graaf.
Ummm... that deserves an explanation. Please explain.