Yea I'd agree, I wouldn't be too interested in buying books with this thing. 80000 books or whatever actually isn't that much at all. I usually don't like the best sellers. And not being able share with friends is pretty sad... thats the main reason to buy a book versus just picking it up in the library.
But having like the New York Times, the Nation, the Christian Science Monitor (currently not offered, but you could rig it up with their existing PDF service) etc that would be nice. I don't really care about DRM for that content and I doubt the newspapers care either.
Like I pretty much had to stop subscribing to the Nation and the Christian Science Monitor since they arrived in the mail so late.
Actually the wireless service has wide coverage, I live in rural Missouri and according to their website would be fine. Obviously you'd want to check that first. You can turn the wireless off so then battery is only drained on page flips.
I actually think its a solid product idea. Basically you pay for content and wireless access at the same time. E-paper sounds legitimately like a great technology. It would be pretty tempting offer if not for having basically no money at the moment and the Asus Eee PC being so damn cute.:)
KDE wrote a lot of specs at FD.org, its not like they have to play catch-up.
KDE has dropped DCOP and uses DBus now, I suppose thats the biggest news on the fd.o front.
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Release management is a complicated thing. In this case it would be really easy to just delay and delay KDE 4. It wouldn't really accomplish anything though.
Just promise to try out KWin's composition features first when KDE 4 comes out. Their emphasis is on functionality. It would be like adding salt to your food before eating any if you don't try KWin out first.:)
I finally tried out a full KDE4 session last week and it is really coming together. I really look forward to the creative stuff people make with Plasma. Its not just a tool for having fun widgets on the desktop (which it is), but its designed so folks can easily develop their own taskbar, interactive wallpaper whatever.
So KDE 4.0 will be cool, KDE 4.0 + 6 months of people creating fun plasmoids, even cooler.
Except it looks nothing like any other linux distro, and most existing software is probably too hefty to run on it. Everything bundled with it has been heavily modified.
Yes your right, outside of some conservative argument (teachers have always taught things in classrooms, why not computers) my idea doesn't really have more merit.
What you say about messing with your computer and figuring out how to do stuff was kind of what I was saying as to why the OLPC laptop isn't so great. You can't go on the internet and find a community of hundreds of thousands writing stuff for your laptop, since it lives in its own world. Granted I'm sure they want to build such a community, but it will never be as deep as the normal Linux desktop community. It just felt so limiting to me.
Well in my experience it could hardly run the software it had. It just felt very slow.
I suppose for young children it is probably OK, but it would need to be coupled with real computers for older students.
But really I don't buy into the whole notion of OLPC... why not One or Two Decent Computer Classrooms Per School (OTDCCPS?). It would just be a question of logistics and funding, no new tech needed for a $200 desktop in bulk.
OLPC/Classmate is sexy and cool sounding in a candyland and unicorns kind of way, but not in a "we've done research and this really helps" way.
I've used a OLPC and it was clearly just a toy. Very slow etc, not able to run normal Linux software.
Intel's program does seem more compelling, and the Asus EeePC is just neat.
In both instances I'm not quite sure its a good program. The laptop programs in the US have pretty much been universal failures. Of course we don't have much of a digital divide in the US, so I could see how having a laptop when before you had no computer access would be beneficial.
Amtrak needs to have its own rail lines for it have any quality of service. The fact that passenger trains take a second priority to the coal freight lines is just ridiculious.
But that would require ZOMG government funding of infrastructure that isn't the holy superhighway system.
Clearly those must be debug-enabled builds. Adding all the debug symbols does typically make the binary much much bigger then otherwise. Which makes sense, you shouldn't run KOffice 2 unless your willing to help out with crash reports so distributing binaries without the debug enabled would be irresponsible.
Its either that or there's some I clearly don't understand about Mac OS.
Anyways there are plenty of whole Linux distributions that include KOffice and are smaller then that.
The libraries are broken up, but its pointless to package them separately. Anyways it would make your apt-get list longer which I suppose would just be terrible.
But really 170 megs for a whole office suite is nothing.
You underestimate how huge OpenOffice is. Its codebase might even be bigger then the entire KDE project. Since OpenOffice has its own (crappy) crossplatform GUI system, its pretty much a DE in its own right.
It still is the biggest problem. We had a Linux InstallFest at my school. We maybe did one install - people are able to do that on their own these days. Really it should be renamed Linux Wireless ConfigFest or something.
My laptop is also Intel wireless (since I bought it with Linux in mind) and has no problem. My girlfriends though is Broadcom and doesn't work well with WPA at all.
Well I'm just saying your underestimating how culture impacts the language, and even if a group adopts a new language that the language will be changed to suit their culture. And it can be changed while remaining mutually-intelligible.
People will fit whatever language their talking into their cultural pattern. Look at English; its a very international language and very diverse.
Basically I'm saying its possible to have a variety of related languages that are mutually intelligible. Indian English, American English, British English, Scot, southern English, Ebonics etc.
Now when I went to Scotland I could hardly understand Scot (the only English language where I've really had that problem), but I'm sure I could have picked up with a bit of practice; 5 years of study wouldn't be needed like it was for me to learn Spanish OK.
The effect of barriers of communication put up by languages are really horrible in my opinion. For instance, having decent English skills is a prerequisite to making contributions to most open source projects.
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Yea I'd agree, I wouldn't be too interested in buying books with this thing. 80000 books or whatever actually isn't that much at all. I usually don't like the best sellers. And not being able share with friends is pretty sad... thats the main reason to buy a book versus just picking it up in the library.
But having like the New York Times, the Nation, the Christian Science Monitor (currently not offered, but you could rig it up with their existing PDF service) etc that would be nice. I don't really care about DRM for that content and I doubt the newspapers care either.
Like I pretty much had to stop subscribing to the Nation and the Christian Science Monitor since they arrived in the mail so late.
Actually the wireless service has wide coverage, I live in rural Missouri and according to their website would be fine. Obviously you'd want to check that first. You can turn the wireless off so then battery is only drained on page flips.
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I actually think its a solid product idea. Basically you pay for content and wireless access at the same time. E-paper sounds legitimately like a great technology. It would be pretty tempting offer if not for having basically no money at the moment and the Asus Eee PC being so damn cute.
I agree with you, it was a good review.
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So of course it gets marked Troll on Slashdot.
It's part of the KDE family though. :)
KDE wrote a lot of specs at FD.org, its not like they have to play catch-up.
KDE has dropped DCOP and uses DBus now, I suppose thats the biggest news on the fd.o front.
Release management is a complicated thing. In this case it would be really easy to just delay and delay KDE 4. It wouldn't really accomplish anything though.
I figured they were just being quaint.
But I suppose just lazy if they updated the Gnome icon.
Just promise to try out KWin's composition features first when KDE 4 comes out. Their emphasis is on functionality. It would be like adding salt to your food before eating any if you don't try KWin out first. :)
KDE or Gnome won't matter for this sort of thing generally.
Assuming you meant Nasa TV, did you try just installing Real Player? Its Linux version is way less bloated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
The summary is you add the Canonical commercial repos and then apt-get install realplay.
For most other video (and maybe the Nasa site as well) mozilla-mplayer works well.
Plasma isn't planning too, but most KDE apps will be able to run on Windows. If not at the KDE 4.0, then in the near future.
I finally tried out a full KDE4 session last week and it is really coming together. I really look forward to the creative stuff people make with Plasma. Its not just a tool for having fun widgets on the desktop (which it is), but its designed so folks can easily develop their own taskbar, interactive wallpaper whatever.
So KDE 4.0 will be cool, KDE 4.0 + 6 months of people creating fun plasmoids, even cooler.
Except it looks nothing like any other linux distro, and most existing software is probably too hefty to run on it. Everything bundled with it has been heavily modified.
Yes your right, outside of some conservative argument (teachers have always taught things in classrooms, why not computers) my idea doesn't really have more merit.
What you say about messing with your computer and figuring out how to do stuff was kind of what I was saying as to why the OLPC laptop isn't so great. You can't go on the internet and find a community of hundreds of thousands writing stuff for your laptop, since it lives in its own world. Granted I'm sure they want to build such a community, but it will never be as deep as the normal Linux desktop community. It just felt so limiting to me.
Well in my experience it could hardly run the software it had. It just felt very slow.
I suppose for young children it is probably OK, but it would need to be coupled with real computers for older students.
But really I don't buy into the whole notion of OLPC... why not One or Two Decent Computer Classrooms Per School (OTDCCPS?). It would just be a question of logistics and funding, no new tech needed for a $200 desktop in bulk.
OLPC/Classmate is sexy and cool sounding in a candyland and unicorns kind of way, but not in a "we've done research and this really helps" way.
I've used a OLPC and it was clearly just a toy. Very slow etc, not able to run normal Linux software.
Intel's program does seem more compelling, and the Asus EeePC is just neat.
In both instances I'm not quite sure its a good program. The laptop programs in the US have pretty much been universal failures. Of course we don't have much of a digital divide in the US, so I could see how having a laptop when before you had no computer access would be beneficial.
Amtrak needs to have its own rail lines for it have any quality of service. The fact that passenger trains take a second priority to the coal freight lines is just ridiculious.
But that would require ZOMG government funding of infrastructure that isn't the holy superhighway system.
Clearly those must be debug-enabled builds. Adding all the debug symbols does typically make the binary much much bigger then otherwise. Which makes sense, you shouldn't run KOffice 2 unless your willing to help out with crash reports so distributing binaries without the debug enabled would be irresponsible.
Its either that or there's some I clearly don't understand about Mac OS.
Anyways there are plenty of whole Linux distributions that include KOffice and are smaller then that.
Part of OO.o "bloatedness" has nothing to do with the speed it does things. KDE provides KOffice was a firm foundation that it can build on.
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Like Krita is awesome, already better then The Gimp in my opinion. Next it just needs to beat out Painter and Photoshop.
Outlook is part of MS Office, but KMail and Kontact are part of the KDE PIM project, not KOffice. Thats where the confusion is. :)
The libraries are broken up, but its pointless to package them separately. Anyways it would make your apt-get list longer which I suppose would just be terrible.
But really 170 megs for a whole office suite is nothing.
How would Kontact benefit from KOffice integration? A KWord HTML email editor? Hardly seems like a must-have...
You underestimate how huge OpenOffice is. Its codebase might even be bigger then the entire KDE project. Since OpenOffice has its own (crappy) crossplatform GUI system, its pretty much a DE in its own right.
It still is the biggest problem. We had a Linux InstallFest at my school. We maybe did one install - people are able to do that on their own these days. Really it should be renamed Linux Wireless ConfigFest or something.
My laptop is also Intel wireless (since I bought it with Linux in mind) and has no problem. My girlfriends though is Broadcom and doesn't work well with WPA at all.
Well I'm just saying your underestimating how culture impacts the language, and even if a group adopts a new language that the language will be changed to suit their culture. And it can be changed while remaining mutually-intelligible.
People will fit whatever language their talking into their cultural pattern. Look at English; its a very international language and very diverse.
Basically I'm saying its possible to have a variety of related languages that are mutually intelligible. Indian English, American English, British English, Scot, southern English, Ebonics etc.
Now when I went to Scotland I could hardly understand Scot (the only English language where I've really had that problem), but I'm sure I could have picked up with a bit of practice; 5 years of study wouldn't be needed like it was for me to learn Spanish OK.
The effect of barriers of communication put up by languages are really horrible in my opinion. For instance, having decent English skills is a prerequisite to making contributions to most open source projects.