Well ok I mistated my point. Now If you stretch the density defination (aka abridge the law) You are pretty much doubling the transitior density by putting two proccessors in your computer (well auctually add a dual video proccessor because thats a signifigant number of transitors.) Now basically more transitors means more potential computing power. Sure its a stretch, but even Moore himself had to abridge his defination from a year to 1.5 years.
I remember a great interview with his parents, where his dad was talking about how all he ever thought about in school was getting laid.
Well thats 99% of the university attending population.
Now THAT is the kind of guy I want heading up my OS development.
Well that brings up an interesting point. Rechannelling sexual energy has probally led to the greatest hacks. Now hopefully Linus is working many late nights at transmeta so he has plenty of energy to rechannel into the kernel. Linus getting a secretary would probally take most of that enery away.
The technology to continue Moore's law is already here. Clustering and SMP is the new revolutionary technologies. When we finally reach theoretical maximums that we can't get around, well just double the humber of proccessors a machine can hold every 18 months. Also, if intel if making the same chips for more than two years, it will find ways to make them cheaper. Stagination in one regard will only lead to proliferation in others. Also, redesigning chip architectures will make faster chips.
Sure eventually we will reach the ceiling, but hopefully by then the Seti Project will have discovered life.
It's a bit of a double-edged sword, save $$$ or save your soul.
Wait A minute either way The boys at Redmond get a share in the profits for the machine. So either way your sellihg your soul. Now if you decide to buy the NT machine Microsoft has to print out one more manual with the certificatre of authenciticy, press another CD and ship it over to Dell. Now this cost is minute of course, and if you are buyiong for a vendor such as Dell, ("you" || "your boss") want ("warrenty" && "tech support" && "The Dell GNOME theme") so you'd probally better spend the money on Dell.
Now I don't kow what Dell tech support is like so if its worth it I don't know.
When Microsoft starts to back the WINE project it's time to worry.
Auctually from a Microsoft point of view it would be a good idea. Then they wouldn't have to port individual applications. Plus its good PR. And believe it or not it will give the whole open source movement a lot of publicity. It would definatly be dancing with the devil, the Redmond legal team could find some holes in the GPL if they really wanted to release binary only modified versions of WINE. Even if they couldn't, they could always just help fix part of WINE, host the CVS tree, and reverse public opinion in the open source community faster then Commander Taco can by posting an anti-VA article while making Office depend on a new set of DLLs that are strictly licensed and cost about the same as a Windows license that just happen to make sure that you have enough licenses for users using the application.
What I really don't understand here is won't this contradict there linux stratagy? Isn't big blue going to try to push linux for low and mid range File/print/DHCP/routing/etc services. Not to knock Novell, which I'll admit I've never used, but how can a company market both products, orr are they just gonna try to target business with Novell networks that won't switch because there management is still in the dark ages.
Sure, and tie linux to x86 forever
Not forever neccesarally. If businesses (read: anyone who pays for office) started running Microsoft Office on Linux then all the (powerpc && sparc && alpha) based production houses out there would Just install whatever office application that gets them the least complaints when they email off presentations exported to powerpoint to clients. There are plenty of linux/bsd hackers out there that stay away from the x86 and they would gladly prove that you don't need Intel or Microsoft even if you use computers to do auctual work.
Let the flames begin!!!
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The communinity development model so far has been unable to do anything other than kludge together something as important of the GUI. Gnome and KDE are just the first iteration towards a useful user experience.
So computers weren't useful until Xerox did all that gui research and people start experimenting with GUI's for lisp systems? Dos wasn't useful?
I still find wordperfect 5.1 for Dos very useful. I even kinda wish they'd open source it. Then I could convince a few sysadmins to install DOSEMU on their servers.
My laptop dosen't run X. I'll admit its mainly because I can't get it to display full screen, but if it was really essential I'd have paid more for a machine that I knew would be able to handle it. I use it mainly for "geek stuff" but I browse the web with lynx. Sure I run X on my desktop, but alot of the times its just so I can have tarminal windows next to each other instead of virtual consoles stacked onto each other.
Also, IMHO, KDE and GNOME are quite robust and useful. Is the cut and past as good as windows? No. Are they easily configurable? Yes. Do they look a hell of a lot better than anything that can from the boys of Redmond? Absolutly. Sure they need work, but they're getting better every day. If you look at status updates most work is concentrated upon cut and paste and office applications.
I'm starting to think that before a story is posted, commander taco informs the webmaster of any linked sites and reccomends they take the site down to reduce overall network traffic.
Would it work on your box. I know OpenBSD 2.6 and FreeBSD 4.0 don't support my Gateways promise ultra/66 ide controller. Can say the same about redhat 6.1 slackware 7.0 and any distro that don't patch there kernel besides the Alan cox eratta patch. Sure I got a 2.4 test kernel and made my own boot disk and installed slack and Freebsd 4.0 and OpenBSD 2.7 will install no problem.
This is not meant to be off topic. My point is that if your a hardware distributor you make certain decisions to support certain configurations for certain reasons. You then strictly adhere to these support policies or be prepared to deal with these incompatability issues. Lets just say some company orders 100 machines and wsks you to install Mandrake on it. Now your running a risk there. What if the hard drives slowly destroy the maxtor 20 gig drives you have. Thats could lose you a lot more than an order of 100 machines.
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Emacs wasn't built in a day
Good point. There up to like versiopn 20.7 and still kicking. Give mozilla time. Look how many features emacs has. Web/mail add ons. An X11 insterface. There's even an aol instant messenger module. Give mozilla some time. Sure Linus can get a kernel out the door faster than Mozilla can get a browser, but Image if Linux started three years ago trying to create a kernel all the features 2.4.test5 has and run on all the platforms it does. It was around two years for 2.0 to 2.2 and over a year between 2.2 to 2.4. Sure mozilla had a start, but look how long it took to clean up and document all the code. Yeah three years is a long time to wait. Many slashdot readers have actively contributed to mozilla and feel slighted, but not all projects are successful. How many abandoned projects do you have lying on your hard drive?
the thing would be great for a lot of things including a nice tight cluster.
Not really. A PIII in a normal box has more proccessing power than however many of these 486's fit in the same area as the average tower case. However There are alot of things this can do. For example there are many mini print/file servers on the market, but what about if you need a server for some sort of propierty device. Lets just say for example data collection. There are many parallel port data collection devices out there. This would be a perfect device to hook one of these up to collect data from lab experiments. Depending on what claculations need to be performed the data could be processed by the 486 or sent to a cray.
Moby Dick bites my ass. I don't need 2 chapters on chowder and 3 on harpoons. I gotta agree there. However, Shakespear, now that is literature. To troll or not to troll, that is the question wether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of moderation, or to login to a sea of troubles, and by posting intelligently gaining karma To whore, to troll, no more And by a troll we say to end The intelligence and thousand on-topic threads that slashdot was heir to.
the usual appraisal is more along the lines of "AIX? Uurrggghhh...";)
I'd never auctually used AIX, but from what I heard, most complaints are directed towards its design and its divergance from Unix standards that we all have come to know and love. Do not quote me on this, but I believe that AIX does not use the traditional text configuration files.
I have heard/.ers pay similar compliments to AIX. It really is a solid OS designed to never crash. Thats what mainframes are designed for.
Does that mean that the average admin coming from a BSD/Solaris/Linux/NT envirorment would enjoy admining an RS/6000 giving the proper training? Depends on their adjustability and how strong there feelings are about how a Un*x should be. Personally if I had a choice between a Sun enterprise server and an RS/6000 to play around with at home (and the space to store it as well as a 220 volt outlet), I would personally go with the Sun Server and play around with NetBSD. However, for a five 9's envirorment I'd probally go with RS/6000's.
I know of companies who rewrite the NT kernel so it won't crash, so I guess anything's possible. I'm perfectly happy with linux and FreeBSD but where can I get one of these NT kernels? Its good to know because sometimes outside forces tainted by evil force you to use microsoft products.
Tight corners, kinks, bends, and wrapping can all notch or damage the conductors, which can wreak havoc on high-speed signalling.
Well what exactl;y is a tight angle? Is a 90 degree turn through a 3 inch diameter circle ok? Also kind of sppeds does normal bending become an issue? 10/100 or only gigabit? Obvisiously with cheap wire and extreme bending etc its an issue at any speed. If its only a major issue at gigabit speed then I wouldn't be concerned because if I had that kind of money I would get my self all the tools neccessary to wire my dorm properly. But till them I'll stick with my $12 pci 10/100 NICs.
My school auctually wired up our dorms pretty well. All cables cut to proper lengths, 3Com 10/100 hubs with fiber uplinks, etc, etc.
From the article: Because they are made from relatively common materials, these mirrors could be made at a low cost and used for applications covering large areas. This sounds promising. Hopefully it will be cheaper to manufacture this in a fiber optic like form than the current fiber technology we use. This would be good for connections from hub to clients. I'd have to rearrnge my dorm if the angle of my cat-5 cable affected my bandwidth. However, this I could just encircle around my room. Of course custom cutting is another issue. Fortunatly the cat-5 standard is being rewritten to allow for gigabit ethernet over it and there are several other copper solutions for gigabit.
Ok lets be reasonable for a moment. If you download any popular OSS and modify it to fit your configuration and mail the developer the diff file he will look at it and include it. Also, assuming you give the binaries out to only yourself you are only obligated to make the source availabel to yourself upon your request. Now assuming you want to be a productive member of the open source software community you'll probally send the diffs to the maintainer and 99% of the time the will look at the code and put it in future releases. If they don't, then you probally have very unique needs and no one is going to bother you.
I don't think there's an equivalent to ninja pressure point of death skills that will allow someone to 0wn your system with two or three packets This is true. However, there are some exploits that don't require that many packets. Also if you seperate packets far enough you can mask your attack. The stronger the prey the stronger the predator. This may be a good idea. Just realize this is like fighting the borg. The enemy will adapt.
There's noone out there that disagrees that copying and distributing DVDs is illegal, and if you do, you need a morality check. Does that go for mp3s as well? I definatly agree that copying DVDs and selling them is not the most moral action. However, giving your friend a copy of your DVD is considered fair use by some people. I still buy cd's. I don't buy many, but I never did before napster. I try to buy cd's containing the music I like. Anyway your missing the point. The point is we should organize a formal protest, DeCSS would probally be best since we all agree with it and thats what this trial is about.
I'd definatly be for some kind of organized civil disobediance, but how do we effectively organize it? Just copying DVDs and putting DeCSS mirrors is a start, but we need to do more than that. Perhaps we should send letters to Time Warner and friends with thousands of signatures stating that we all committed some agreed upon act that any rational human being would consider fair use. Just a crazy idea.
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Well ok I mistated my point. Now If you stretch the density defination (aka abridge the law) You are pretty much doubling the transitior density by putting two proccessors in your computer (well auctually add a dual video proccessor because thats a signifigant number of transitors.) Now basically more transitors means more potential computing power. Sure its a stretch, but even Moore himself had to abridge his defination from a year to 1.5 years.
I remember a great interview with his parents, where his dad was talking about how all he ever thought about in school was getting laid.
Well thats 99% of the university attending population.
Now THAT is the kind of guy I want heading up my OS development.
Well that brings up an interesting point. Rechannelling sexual energy has probally led to the greatest hacks. Now hopefully Linus is working many late nights at transmeta so he has plenty of energy to rechannel into the kernel. Linus getting a secretary would probally take most of that enery away.
The technology to continue Moore's law is already here. Clustering and SMP is the new revolutionary technologies. When we finally reach theoretical maximums that we can't get around, well just double the humber of proccessors a machine can hold every 18 months. Also, if intel if making the same chips for more than two years, it will find ways to make them cheaper. Stagination in one regard will only lead to proliferation in others. Also, redesigning chip architectures will make faster chips.
Sure eventually we will reach the ceiling, but hopefully by then the Seti Project will have discovered life.
The lead developers not accepting the code, unless its good ,at which point they deserve to have that control.
It's a bit of a double-edged sword, save $$$ or save your soul.
Wait A minute either way The boys at Redmond get a share in the profits for the machine. So either way your sellihg your soul. Now if you decide to buy the NT machine Microsoft has to print out one more manual with the certificatre of authenciticy, press another CD and ship it over to Dell. Now this cost is minute of course, and if you are buyiong for a vendor such as Dell, ("you" || "your boss") want ("warrenty" && "tech support" && "The Dell GNOME theme") so you'd probally better spend the money on Dell.
Now I don't kow what Dell tech support is like so if its worth it I don't know.
When Microsoft starts to back the WINE project it's time to worry.
Auctually from a Microsoft point of view it would be a good idea. Then they wouldn't have to port individual applications. Plus its good PR. And believe it or not it will give the whole open source movement a lot of publicity. It would definatly be dancing with the devil, the Redmond legal team could find some holes in the GPL if they really wanted to release binary only modified versions of WINE. Even if they couldn't, they could always just help fix part of WINE, host the CVS tree, and reverse public opinion in the open source community faster then Commander Taco can by posting an anti-VA article while making Office depend on a new set of DLLs that are strictly licensed and cost about the same as a Windows license that just happen to make sure that you have enough licenses for users using the application.
What I really don't understand here is won't this contradict there linux stratagy? Isn't big blue going to try to push linux for low and mid range File/print/DHCP/routing/etc services. Not to knock Novell, which I'll admit I've never used, but how can a company market both products, orr are they just gonna try to target business with Novell networks that won't switch because there management is still in the dark ages.
Sure, and tie linux to x86 forever
Not forever neccesarally. If businesses (read: anyone who pays for office) started running Microsoft Office on Linux then all the (powerpc && sparc && alpha) based production houses out there would Just install whatever office application that gets them the least complaints when they email off presentations exported to powerpoint to clients. There are plenty of linux/bsd hackers out there that stay away from the x86 and they would gladly prove that you don't need Intel or Microsoft even if you use computers to do auctual work.
Let the flames begin!!!
So computers weren't useful until Xerox did all that gui research and people start experimenting with GUI's for lisp systems? Dos wasn't useful?
I still find wordperfect 5.1 for Dos very useful. I even kinda wish they'd open source it. Then I could convince a few sysadmins to install DOSEMU on their servers.
My laptop dosen't run X. I'll admit its mainly because I can't get it to display full screen, but if it was really essential I'd have paid more for a machine that I knew would be able to handle it. I use it mainly for "geek stuff" but I browse the web with lynx. Sure I run X on my desktop, but alot of the times its just so I can have tarminal windows next to each other instead of virtual consoles stacked onto each other.
Also, IMHO, KDE and GNOME are quite robust and useful. Is the cut and past as good as windows? No. Are they easily configurable? Yes. Do they look a hell of a lot better than anything that can from the boys of Redmond? Absolutly. Sure they need work, but they're getting better every day. If you look at status updates most work is concentrated upon cut and paste and office applications.
I'm starting to think that before a story is posted, commander taco informs the webmaster of any linked sites and reccomends they take the site down to reduce overall network traffic.
Would it work on your box. I know OpenBSD 2.6 and FreeBSD 4.0 don't support my Gateways promise ultra/66 ide controller. Can say the same about redhat 6.1 slackware 7.0 and any distro that don't patch there kernel besides the Alan cox eratta patch. Sure I got a 2.4 test kernel and made my own boot disk and installed slack and Freebsd 4.0 and OpenBSD 2.7 will install no problem.
This is not meant to be off topic. My point is that if your a hardware distributor you make certain decisions to support certain configurations for certain reasons. You then strictly adhere to these support policies or be prepared to deal with these incompatability issues. Lets just say some company orders 100 machines and wsks you to install Mandrake on it. Now your running a risk there. What if the hard drives slowly destroy the maxtor 20 gig drives you have. Thats could lose you a lot more than an order of 100 machines.
Emacs wasn't built in a day
Good point. There up to like versiopn 20.7 and still kicking. Give mozilla time. Look how many features emacs has. Web/mail add ons. An X11 insterface. There's even an aol instant messenger module. Give mozilla some time. Sure Linus can get a kernel out the door faster than Mozilla can get a browser, but Image if Linux started three years ago trying to create a kernel all the features 2.4.test5 has and run on all the platforms it does. It was around two years for 2.0 to 2.2 and over a year between 2.2 to 2.4. Sure mozilla had a start, but look how long it took to clean up and document all the code. Yeah three years is a long time to wait. Many slashdot readers have actively contributed to mozilla and feel slighted, but not all projects are successful. How many abandoned projects do you have lying on your hard drive?
Why not use Javascript for popup windows?
Perhaps a wiretapping device. A 486 could easily mp3 encode at telephone quality. I'm not exaclty for these devices, but there is a market for them.
the thing would be great for a lot of things including a nice tight cluster.
Not really. A PIII in a normal box has more proccessing power than however many of these 486's fit in the same area as the average tower case. However There are alot of things this can do. For example there are many mini print/file servers on the market, but what about if you need a server for some sort of propierty device. Lets just say for example data collection. There are many parallel port data collection devices out there. This would be a perfect device to hook one of these up to collect data from lab experiments. Depending on what claculations need to be performed the data could be processed by the 486 or sent to a cray.
Moby Dick bites my ass. I don't need 2 chapters on chowder and 3 on harpoons.
I gotta agree there. However, Shakespear, now that is literature.
To troll or not to troll, that is the question
wether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of moderation, or to login to a sea of troubles, and by posting intelligently gaining karma
To whore, to troll, no more
And by a troll we say to end
The intelligence and thousand on-topic threads that slashdot was heir to.
the usual appraisal is more along the lines of "AIX? Uurrggghhh..." ;)
/.ers pay similar compliments to AIX. It really is a solid OS designed to never crash. Thats what mainframes are designed for.
I'd never auctually used AIX, but from what I heard, most complaints are directed towards its design and its divergance from Unix standards that we all have come to know and love. Do not quote me on this, but I believe that AIX does not use the traditional text configuration files.
I have heard
Does that mean that the average admin coming from a BSD/Solaris/Linux/NT envirorment would enjoy admining an RS/6000 giving the proper training? Depends on their adjustability and how strong there feelings are about how a Un*x should be. Personally if I had a choice between a Sun enterprise server and an RS/6000 to play around with at home (and the space to store it as well as a 220 volt outlet), I would personally go with the Sun Server and play around with NetBSD. However, for a five 9's envirorment I'd probally go with RS/6000's.
I know of companies who rewrite the NT kernel so it won't crash, so I guess anything's possible.
I'm perfectly happy with linux and FreeBSD but where can I get one of these NT kernels? Its good to know because sometimes outside forces tainted by evil force you to use microsoft products.
Well what exactl;y is a tight angle? Is a 90 degree turn through a 3 inch diameter circle ok? Also kind of sppeds does normal bending become an issue? 10/100 or only gigabit? Obvisiously with cheap wire and extreme bending etc its an issue at any speed. If its only a major issue at gigabit speed then I wouldn't be concerned because if I had that kind of money I would get my self all the tools neccessary to wire my dorm properly. But till them I'll stick with my $12 pci 10/100 NICs.
My school auctually wired up our dorms pretty well. All cables cut to proper lengths, 3Com 10/100 hubs with fiber uplinks, etc, etc.
From the article:
Because they are made from relatively common materials, these mirrors could be made at a low cost and used for applications covering large areas.
This sounds promising. Hopefully it will be cheaper to manufacture this in a fiber optic like form than the current fiber technology we use. This would be good for connections from hub to clients. I'd have to rearrnge my dorm if the angle of my cat-5 cable affected my bandwidth. However, this I could just encircle around my room. Of course custom cutting is another issue. Fortunatly the cat-5 standard is being rewritten to allow for gigabit ethernet over it and there are several other copper solutions for gigabit.
Ok lets be reasonable for a moment. If you download any popular OSS and modify it to fit your configuration and mail the developer the diff file he will look at it and include it. Also, assuming you give the binaries out to only yourself you are only obligated to make the source availabel to yourself upon your request. Now assuming you want to be a productive member of the open source software community you'll probally send the diffs to the maintainer and 99% of the time the will look at the code and put it in future releases. If they don't, then you probally have very unique needs and no one is going to bother you.
I don't think there's an equivalent to ninja pressure point of death skills that will allow someone to 0wn your system with two or three packets
This is true. However, there are some exploits that don't require that many packets. Also if you seperate packets far enough you can mask your attack. The stronger the prey the stronger the predator. This may be a good idea. Just realize this is like fighting the borg. The enemy will adapt.
There's noone out there that disagrees that copying and distributing DVDs is illegal, and if you do, you need a morality check.
Does that go for mp3s as well? I definatly agree that copying DVDs and selling them is not the most moral action. However, giving your friend a copy of your DVD is considered fair use by some people. I still buy cd's. I don't buy many, but I never did before napster. I try to buy cd's containing the music I like.
Anyway your missing the point. The point is we should organize a formal protest, DeCSS would probally be best since we all agree with it and thats what this trial is about.
I'd definatly be for some kind of organized civil disobediance, but how do we effectively organize it? Just copying DVDs and putting DeCSS mirrors is a start, but we need to do more than that. Perhaps we should send letters to Time Warner and friends with thousands of signatures stating that we all committed some agreed upon act that any rational human being would consider fair use. Just a crazy idea.
Now if you'll excuse me I must get back to my bowl of grits.