There's the possibility that papers are depending on ads from local goods and services which never sell to global readers. If their servers can't handle global spikes during international news trends (spikes which would probably be sourced more in the U.S. than in Brazil) then they're potentially losing money because local customers can't access the slashdotted site and thus can't be targeted for ads regarding local cars, homes, etc.
But I'm just playing devil's advocate... this is the most batshit retarded decision anyone's made on the Internet since the last time Oracle issued a press release. Adjust the business plan or get out of the economy. And if you think that's unfair, go buy a horse-pulled carriage.
Sure, if the young prodigy, and everybody they know, is a moron who either thinks a graphing calculator is the ideal way for little Jimmy to learn to be a musician/programmer/whatever, or if they and everybody they know has never heard of a PC before. People act as if the things will be un-invented. The new tool is going to sell faster because it's the one nobody has yet - it's new.
The very possibility for people - the Slashdot audience - every last one of which knows we will be buying (or building) between 1-4 new PCs in the next 10 years - to say that PCs are going to bamf their way out of history, is hyperbole on the scale of an asteroid panic caused by shoving a telescope up one's neighbor's asses.
I wasn't even thinking of programmers. I was thinking of visual artists, musicians, writers, etc. For every hacker who wants to make a garage project video game, there are musicians and artists who need Fruityloops and the Gimp in order to help produce. Then there are the scholarly types who are attracted to research... their work is less dependent on a PC, but only to the extent that they're unaware of apps that can make their job easier.
I disagree. In my experience, more people figure out how to tap some kind of creativity with a PC as each year goes by.The apps get easier to create with, and the generation who grew up with PCs are having kids now - those kids will be encouraged to follow their creative and intellectual dreams with the PC as their best tool.
So, I disagree only because the PC is still coming very much into its own. Honestly I believe (really do) that this anti-PC rhetoric is a terrified response from ill-meaning shepherds, freaked out because books like Being Digital proved true.
What the hell were you thinking, buying this for a console?
seriously, I feel bad for you guys, but remember this, next time one of your friends looks at you and asks what the fuck possessed you to buy a game like this for console rather than PC.
I'll answer my own question. One day, the big dogs of the PC market collectively woke up, looked at the dog pile of money being spent by people who prefer to leave the house on occasion, and decided somehow that all that money could be theirs.
Well, that's silly. Why invent an unattainable bubble in the future and then throw temper tantrums, saying sales are down compared to some future fantasy?
And as for past sales trends, you know, once upon a time there were no household PCs. That was 30 years ago. 10 years ago there were no (worthwhile) ultra-mobile PCs, smartphones, tablets etc. I would imagine that hammers and wrenches sold like hot cakes at first because they were new and nobody owned one yet.
If and when PCs are reinvented, and of course they will be, there will be another gold rush for manufacturers of full-sized, fully featured computing appliances. As for now, they are fully integrated into the culture; everybody knows whether they want one, why they want one, how long they want one to last. Novelty and vanity aren't something you can permanently expect in this kind of industry. There will always be certain people who think these purchases augment their genitals, but the rest of us move on with reality and just buy what we need.
Sorry to rant, this all just seems like the most boorish rerun of "Missing the Point: Tech Market Edition" ever.
and the blue rays, with the Jell-O pudding. I don't even.
Every time I see a story about the death of the PC, I wonder what everybody's smoking and when they're going to pass it my direction. Is everyone just pretending to freak out so that they'll roll out quantum PCs faster? Because this has no basis in reality, from anything I've seen. It's like everybody picked a favorite April fools joke and just has been running with it all year.
I seriously just don't even get what you people are talking about.
The company that rightly quit even trying, joins forces with a guy who sat atop an expensive pile of nothing which everybody knew would never reach market in any significant degree. There is probably no analogy for this outside of Saturday morning cartoons.
What the hell does Nikita put in its water fountains, to make people think these underfunded, disorganized, sloppily targeted niche projects such as meego are ever going to go anywhere but into the "miscellaneous crap of no value" bin at a fire sale?
Fuck Oracle, fuck its cookies, fuck its eyes after Smith got hold of them, fuck its casting change, fuck all the fight scenes that took place outside of its house, fuck it's mumbo-jumbo nonsensical advice, fuck it's spoon, fuck the pithy wood carved sayings hanging above its kitchen door, fuck its vase, fuck its cigarettes, and fuck its sudden rewriting of key plot points at the beginning of Revolutions.
Looking forward to switching all my projects to LibereSQL.
Amen. And not just releasing it, but making stuff which is broken, suddenly the default. I sought out and really enjoyed gnome3 at first, and only switched away because of performance issues. But, I had also assumed that, over time, the user base and third-party developers would solve the boneheaded problems of no panel apps and such like. and, the assumption I was most surprised to be wrong about, I presumed gnome would take the smart long-term steps necessary to protect its dominance as the default DE chosen by so many distros. now it seems more like too many developers were reading Shuttleworth's blog and doing bath salts at the same time.
But for us, as users, there's an important issue to remember: gnome has done us Linux users a long and valuable service, and if it's developers want to experiment, buck all trends, and risk their dominant status because they believe they can come out ahead of some next generation curve after the dust settles, they are entitled to do that with their project. if, and I'm not saying they are but hear me out, if gnome-team truly is ahead of some GUI evolution curve, early reactions would look much like the baffled rejections users are hurling at them today. and, of course, whether or not such drastic changes are well advised, early days will be shaky.
This isn't the first time gnome has sucked. I wonder to what extent the user base has forgotten that this software is the FOSS output of volunteers entitled to enact their own visions.
parent post is almost exactly what I came here to say. now gamers are not only happy to buy buggy products, they're also asking to pay five more dollars for a costume the same day they buy the game? I smell freshly cut Astroturf.
Absolutely not. Asking them to get into that mess, basically means asking them not to be so good at games. Let them be good at what they're good at, let them focus their resources on being good at that, let them focus on successful distribution of games on Linux. It is stupid to ask a company to distract themselves in that fashion when they are already working on something which is somewhat foreign to their skill set. Let them have a few years to perfect this, drive-up the market for Linux desktop gaming, and perhaps, instead of drowning in the quagmire as an inferior entrant into an already flooded marketplace, maybe they will focus their efforts on liaising between disparate technologies for the purposes of standardizing gaming on Linux.
I guess this is probably going to be flamebait. I am sad to see Red Hat / Fedora go, although only for nostalgic reasons. They were Ubuntu before Ubuntu came along... Pretty from word "go," quick to add GUIs, robust enough for power users, accessible to newbies... but also like Ubuntu, from the day it attracted its very first non-enthusiast Linux user some weird monster took over. From 5 or 6 onward it was a crappy distro with a very broken installer, full of CPU-hogging (beagle) and/or utterly broken (abrt) services, racing to adopt things that weren't ready yet (PulseAudio)...
So much quality effort pushed into a free OS distro that totally rocked for a while, but then it just turned into a slaptastic circus. Even RPM was so broken for a while, a couple years back, that it had seemed to have zero fault tolerance, and would get stuck state files every time the package list was corrupted. Which seemed to be often. It hit a point where I switched back to Windows because Fedora had made me hate Linux on the desktop.
Ubuntu pissed me off the past 8 months as they seem to have stopped UX testing on desktops entirely, but now I'm just back to Debian:)
Also a bit sad about my title, why does it seem like Linux + money = evil?
That torrent of PR nightmares a few years ago, combined with Google's success, led to financial nose dive after nose dive. I was one of the people predicting Yahoo!'s utter destruction, and I was far from the only one. It's honestly kind of natural for people in the know, to have trouble believing that anyone DOES use Yahoo for anything, anymore.
"nobody would have expected even Facebook to fail this hard"
What nobody expects, is for Facebook to ever think about its users before deploying something. It's things like this, I'd say, that makes curmudgeons of so many IT specialists. Somebody probably warned your company's decision makers that Facebook is too likely a point-of-failure, to trust in that way. He probably warned them until he was blue in the face.
and all done, but nobody would have read it at this point anyway, and then I changed my comment formatting away from HTML. And now the comment is gone. And that makes me a sad Reman.
Global iconic stardom is probably not the best working condition for a software developer, IMO. Devs are notoriously out of touch with their user base, and I'd call this an example of that.
I hope Nvidia doesn't take Linus seriously here... I don't know when Linus last played a video game on a PC, but those of us who work and play on the same machines, can only do so on Linux because of Nvidia's driver support.
Put another way: If Nvidia's Unix Drivers team got hit by a bus tomorrow, it might actually have negative effects on the open source community. Hackers who take breaks from coding to pwn noobs aren't going to want to swap over to Windows for a 10 minute bloodbath. If Nvidia's Unix Drivers team says, "fine, then, fuck you too!" some of those coders will be writing software for Windows afterwards.
Someone get Linus a cold beer, a blowjob, and a 3 month vacation before someone takes him seriously.
This was clearly an April Fools article. Right?
Wait I get it... patents are good, because Big Biz is incompetent about how patents and software work together (because they don't) - and so, patents are good for open source, because even a tactical nuke is useless when misfired?
Except it's not.
Slashdot Mirror
There's the possibility that papers are depending on ads from local goods and services which never sell to global readers. If their servers can't handle global spikes during international news trends (spikes which would probably be sourced more in the U.S. than in Brazil) then they're potentially losing money because local customers can't access the slashdotted site and thus can't be targeted for ads regarding local cars, homes, etc.
But I'm just playing devil's advocate... this is the most batshit retarded decision anyone's made on the Internet since the last time Oracle issued a press release. Adjust the business plan or get out of the economy. And if you think that's unfair, go buy a horse-pulled carriage.
Sure, if the young prodigy, and everybody they know, is a moron who either thinks a graphing calculator is the ideal way for little Jimmy to learn to be a musician/programmer/whatever, or if they and everybody they know has never heard of a PC before. People act as if the things will be un-invented. The new tool is going to sell faster because it's the one nobody has yet - it's new.
The very possibility for people - the Slashdot audience - every last one of which knows we will be buying (or building) between 1-4 new PCs in the next 10 years - to say that PCs are going to bamf their way out of history, is hyperbole on the scale of an asteroid panic caused by shoving a telescope up one's neighbor's asses.
RTFA.
Article title !== True.
I wasn't even thinking of programmers. I was thinking of visual artists, musicians, writers, etc. For every hacker who wants to make a garage project video game, there are musicians and artists who need Fruityloops and the Gimp in order to help produce. Then there are the scholarly types who are attracted to research... their work is less dependent on a PC, but only to the extent that they're unaware of apps that can make their job easier.
I disagree. In my experience, more people figure out how to tap some kind of creativity with a PC as each year goes by.The apps get easier to create with, and the generation who grew up with PCs are having kids now - those kids will be encouraged to follow their creative and intellectual dreams with the PC as their best tool.
So, I disagree only because the PC is still coming very much into its own. Honestly I believe (really do) that this anti-PC rhetoric is a terrified response from ill-meaning shepherds, freaked out because books like Being Digital proved true.
is +5 Funny.
Man, I just have to say the extremely obvious
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
What the hell were you thinking, buying this for a console?
seriously, I feel bad for you guys, but remember this, next time one of your friends looks at you and asks what the fuck possessed you to buy a game like this for console rather than PC.
I'll answer my own question. One day, the big dogs of the PC market collectively woke up, looked at the dog pile of money being spent by people who prefer to leave the house on occasion, and decided somehow that all that money could be theirs.
Well, that's silly. Why invent an unattainable bubble in the future and then throw temper tantrums, saying sales are down compared to some future fantasy?
And as for past sales trends, you know, once upon a time there were no household PCs. That was 30 years ago. 10 years ago there were no (worthwhile) ultra-mobile PCs, smartphones, tablets etc. I would imagine that hammers and wrenches sold like hot cakes at first because they were new and nobody owned one yet.
If and when PCs are reinvented, and of course they will be, there will be another gold rush for manufacturers of full-sized, fully featured computing appliances. As for now, they are fully integrated into the culture; everybody knows whether they want one, why they want one, how long they want one to last. Novelty and vanity aren't something you can permanently expect in this kind of industry. There will always be certain people who think these purchases augment their genitals, but the rest of us move on with reality and just buy what we need.
Sorry to rant, this all just seems like the most boorish rerun of "Missing the Point: Tech Market Edition" ever.
and the blue rays, with the Jell-O pudding. I don't even.
Every time I see a story about the death of the PC, I wonder what everybody's smoking and when they're going to pass it my direction. Is everyone just pretending to freak out so that they'll roll out quantum PCs faster? Because this has no basis in reality, from anything I've seen. It's like everybody picked a favorite April fools joke and just has been running with it all year.
I seriously just don't even get what you people are talking about.
Ahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha....
The company that rightly quit even trying, joins forces with a guy who sat atop an expensive pile of nothing which everybody knew would never reach market in any significant degree. There is probably no analogy for this outside of Saturday morning cartoons.
What the hell does Nikita put in its water fountains, to make people think these underfunded, disorganized, sloppily targeted niche projects such as meego are ever going to go anywhere but into the "miscellaneous crap of no value" bin at a fire sale?
Fuck Oracle, fuck its cookies, fuck its eyes after Smith got hold of them, fuck its casting change, fuck all the fight scenes that took place outside of its house, fuck it's mumbo-jumbo nonsensical advice, fuck it's spoon, fuck the pithy wood carved sayings hanging above its kitchen door, fuck its vase, fuck its cigarettes, and fuck its sudden rewriting of key plot points at the beginning of Revolutions.
Looking forward to switching all my projects to LibereSQL.
"the problem is releasing stuff broken"
Amen. And not just releasing it, but making stuff which is broken, suddenly the default. I sought out and really enjoyed gnome3 at first, and only switched away because of performance issues. But, I had also assumed that, over time, the user base and third-party developers would solve the boneheaded problems of no panel apps and such like. and, the assumption I was most surprised to be wrong about, I presumed gnome would take the smart long-term steps necessary to protect its dominance as the default DE chosen by so many distros. now it seems more like too many developers were reading Shuttleworth's blog and doing bath salts at the same time.
But for us, as users, there's an important issue to remember: gnome has done us Linux users a long and valuable service, and if it's developers want to experiment, buck all trends, and risk their dominant status because they believe they can come out ahead of some next generation curve after the dust settles, they are entitled to do that with their project. if, and I'm not saying they are but hear me out, if gnome-team truly is ahead of some GUI evolution curve, early reactions would look much like the baffled rejections users are hurling at them today. and, of course, whether or not such drastic changes are well advised, early days will be shaky.
This isn't the first time gnome has sucked. I wonder to what extent the user base has forgotten that this software is the FOSS output of volunteers entitled to enact their own visions.
parent post is almost exactly what I came here to say. now gamers are not only happy to buy buggy products, they're also asking to pay five more dollars for a costume the same day they buy the game? I smell freshly cut Astroturf.
Absolutely not. Asking them to get into that mess, basically means asking them not to be so good at games. Let them be good at what they're good at, let them focus their resources on being good at that, let them focus on successful distribution of games on Linux. It is stupid to ask a company to distract themselves in that fashion when they are already working on something which is somewhat foreign to their skill set. Let them have a few years to perfect this, drive-up the market for Linux desktop gaming, and perhaps, instead of drowning in the quagmire as an inferior entrant into an already flooded marketplace, maybe they will focus their efforts on liaising between disparate technologies for the purposes of standardizing gaming on Linux.
I guess this is probably going to be flamebait. I am sad to see Red Hat / Fedora go, although only for nostalgic reasons. They were Ubuntu before Ubuntu came along... Pretty from word "go," quick to add GUIs, robust enough for power users, accessible to newbies... but also like Ubuntu, from the day it attracted its very first non-enthusiast Linux user some weird monster took over. From 5 or 6 onward it was a crappy distro with a very broken installer, full of CPU-hogging (beagle) and/or utterly broken (abrt) services, racing to adopt things that weren't ready yet (PulseAudio) ...
So much quality effort pushed into a free OS distro that totally rocked for a while, but then it just turned into a slaptastic circus. Even RPM was so broken for a while, a couple years back, that it had seemed to have zero fault tolerance, and would get stuck state files every time the package list was corrupted. Which seemed to be often. It hit a point where I switched back to Windows because Fedora had made me hate Linux on the desktop.
Ubuntu pissed me off the past 8 months as they seem to have stopped UX testing on desktops entirely, but now I'm just back to Debian :)
Also a bit sad about my title, why does it seem like Linux + money = evil?
...or maybe actually this. http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=YHOO+Interactive#symbol=yhoo;range=my;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined; /facepalm
AFAIK it's based on this:
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=SCOR+Interactive#symbol=scor;range=my;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;
That torrent of PR nightmares a few years ago, combined with Google's success, led to financial nose dive after nose dive. I was one of the people predicting Yahoo!'s utter destruction, and I was far from the only one. It's honestly kind of natural for people in the know, to have trouble believing that anyone DOES use Yahoo for anything, anymore.
"nobody would have expected even Facebook to fail this hard"
What nobody expects, is for Facebook to ever think about its users before deploying something. It's things like this, I'd say, that makes curmudgeons of so many IT specialists. Somebody probably warned your company's decision makers that Facebook is too likely a point-of-failure, to trust in that way. He probably warned them until he was blue in the face.
I am categorically opposed to upstream developers doing anything just because Canonical said so.
I'll just be thankful I can game under Linux at all.
Next year's follow-up story - Oracle secedes, and couches itself as fully as possible in its total reality distortion field.
Then it sues Greece for having had oracles 2000 years ago.
and all done, but nobody would have read it at this point anyway, and then I changed my comment formatting away from HTML. And now the comment is gone. And that makes me a sad Reman.
Global iconic stardom is probably not the best working condition for a software developer, IMO. Devs are notoriously out of touch with their user base, and I'd call this an example of that. I hope Nvidia doesn't take Linus seriously here... I don't know when Linus last played a video game on a PC, but those of us who work and play on the same machines, can only do so on Linux because of Nvidia's driver support. Put another way: If Nvidia's Unix Drivers team got hit by a bus tomorrow, it might actually have negative effects on the open source community. Hackers who take breaks from coding to pwn noobs aren't going to want to swap over to Windows for a 10 minute bloodbath. If Nvidia's Unix Drivers team says, "fine, then, fuck you too!" some of those coders will be writing software for Windows afterwards. Someone get Linus a cold beer, a blowjob, and a 3 month vacation before someone takes him seriously.
This was clearly an April Fools article. Right? Wait I get it... patents are good, because Big Biz is incompetent about how patents and software work together (because they don't) - and so, patents are good for open source, because even a tactical nuke is useless when misfired? Except it's not.
This. April Fools is only one day a year, any other day and it just makes Geeknet look shitty.