I think/. should spin-off the toys topic and created a new one for those nifty hacks (like the roller coaster, invisible case, portable playstation, even the potato-powered webserver).
It should be called WICBTHT (of Wow, I can't believe they hacked it!, in analogy to that Simpsons program)
It includes a lot more stuff than just the patch missing from rc4
Ironically, it doesn't mention the missing patch, so I just hope he didn't forget it again:)
(just kidding, he probably had the pre1 ready already, and decided to release it quickly to fix the rc4 problem, but then he just forgot to add this new 'change' to the log).
Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Once he released the new version and posted about it, he couldn't change the binaries. That would means 2 different binaries were released for the same file (even if in a short period of time), and that could cause even worse problems (how could someone know, in the future, which version a file really is? What if a mirror didn't get the new files properly?)
I'm not aware of the details, but it seems objprelink is rather a "hack", i.e. a quick change that doesn't address the whole issue.
I undesrtand what he tried to explain, but I think it gives a negative conotation to term "hack", which already has a bad reputation of meaning "crack" (thanks mainly to the mainstream press).
Given the fact that the audience of the site is not yout typical Joe-AOL dude, the author could have ommitted that i.e. explanation without compromising his answer...
Does this essentially lead to a Mozilla-like 'split', where a commercial derivative with extra frills is available on top of a free version (both senses)?
Not exactly. Although this is a good comparisson, the commercial version of Netscape is still free. The main difference are testing (Netscape stick to a mozilla version and do a lot of QA testing before moving to another, while mozilla keeps going), features (like that spellchecker) and some 'AOL integration':).
In the case of Staroffice/OpenOffice, it seems to me that real reason behind the split is to 'force' people to use Solaris instead of Linux. If that's the case, I don't it was a good idea: people will still use Linux (as long as OpenOffice is still available), and the anger against Sun will increase with this move.
It's getting so it's hard to count all the different versions of Blade Runner out there
Are all those versions going to be merged in a near future? Gee, the movie is from the 80's, it should have only a stable release, not that much trees...
That picture doesn't show it, but while she was celebrating the victory, she always hit the gnome who has using his gold to forge the medals, so yes, it could have killed it.
Even if there is such button (I wouldn't be surprised if it there isn't, as freedom of choice is not a common characteristic of M$), it should be already turned off by default. Most of the XP - Xtupid Product - users don't even create an user for themselves (they use the default owner one, whose name shouldn't be more appropriated -> owned:), imagine disabling some weird advanced option on the media player...
Just for the record, a friend of mine bought an HP zt1180 laptop (which is a "HP pavilion notebook pc", as noted in the box) recently, and it DOES come with a set of recovery CDs, 3 at total (I know because I'm planning to buy one too, and I was wondering if I could sell the OEMed XP that comes with it), so the problem must be only in the desktop line (the original article doesn't make distinction between then)
True. I actually didn't express well my opinion in the first post (I also missed this response to the slashdot submission system or to mozilla 0.9.8 forms:).
Kernel versions with an odd number in the second position are development versions
I know that. What I was surprised with was the quick acceptance of such patches, in particular the preemptive one. Judging by the following interview, I think that even Robert Love was skeptical about it:
Love: Linus said at ALS this year he was interested in the preempt-kernel patch. That doesn't mean anything to me until we are in, though, but it is a good sign.
There is opposition. There are various issues that need to be dealt with. I believe it is a sane move for 2.5. The patch has seen a lot of testing and we have a lot of users.
I do not want to predict whether it will be merged for 2.5. Time will tell.
this is what Linus has been doing for at least the last 6 years that I've been on LKLM.
Yeah, I agree. But normally changes of this nature (specially in the case of the preemptive patch) take many releases to get in, but this time they happened very early in the tree (in the.3 and.4 releases).
I'm not complaining/trolling (actually, I'm happy with the news), but it's interesting to notice what Linus is up to recently:
- he is considering to use BitKeeper
- he accepted the preemptive kernel in the kernel
- he did something else I don't recall now (will search slashdot after this post:)
- he accepted alsa on the kernel
Maybe he is finally realizing that Linux is not only "his toy" anymore...
PS: forgot to mention, but Fox is really one of a kind. While it created some good shows (Futurama, Simpsons, X Files, King of the Hill, Dark Angel, 24, Malcom in the Middle, etc..), it also brought us a lot of crap (Who wants to marry a millionaire?, The Chamber, Who wants to be a princess?, The Alien's Autopsy, and so on...)
Actually, we could say the cancellation process is already there. They just aired 4 episodes so far in this season.
I really can't understand Fox. Futurama is really good, it didn't get in the repititive/appelative stage where the Simpsons is ye (don't get me wrong, I'm a big Simpsons fan too, I just think it's time to pull the plug and move on to the big screen), and now they are cancelling it (while I bet the Simpsons will still survive for a couple of years). I just hope they don't cancel King of the Hill too..
Slashdot Mirror
Take the time and donate a buck or so to him, maybe he can take the cash and upgrade his service to handle the /. crowd,
Better yet, he could use the money to buy a season pass to Six Flags or other park...
I think /. should spin-off the toys topic and created a new one for those nifty hacks (like the roller coaster, invisible case, portable playstation, even the potato-powered webserver).
It should be called WICBTHT (of Wow, I can't believe they hacked it!, in analogy to that Simpsons program)
Not that I'm complaining/trolling (I hate that company too:), but here we go again:
As Microsoft is more part of the problem than part of the solution,
The end must surely be nigh!
It surely is, considering mozilla is almost finished too!
Poor Staples, they are going to be the first victim of the Slashdot shoplifting effect!
Hmm, my bad :(
I swear I double-checked before posting, but I must got confused with the lower/upper cases, as the original changelog was:
- Load code did not set personality for
binaries without an interpreter: This was
breaking static apps on several archs (Tom Gall)
It includes a lot more stuff than just the patch missing from rc4
:)
Ironically, it doesn't mention the missing patch, so I just hope he didn't forget it again
(just kidding, he probably had the pre1 ready already, and decided to release it quickly to fix the rc4 problem, but then he just forgot to add this new 'change' to the log).
Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Once he released the new version and posted about it, he couldn't change the binaries. That would means 2 different binaries were released for the same file (even if in a short period of time), and that could cause even worse problems (how could someone know, in the future, which version a file really is? What if a mirror didn't get the new files properly?)
I'm not aware of the details, but it seems objprelink is rather a "hack", i.e. a quick change that doesn't address the whole issue.
I undesrtand what he tried to explain, but I think it gives a negative conotation to term "hack", which already has a bad reputation of meaning "crack" (thanks mainly to the mainstream press).
Given the fact that the audience of the site is not yout typical Joe-AOL dude, the author could have ommitted that i.e. explanation without compromising his answer...
Does this essentially lead to a Mozilla-like 'split', where a commercial derivative with extra frills is available on top of a free version (both senses)?
:).
Not exactly. Although this is a good comparisson, the commercial version of Netscape is still free. The main difference are testing (Netscape stick to a mozilla version and do a lot of QA testing before moving to another, while mozilla keeps going), features (like that spellchecker) and some 'AOL integration'
In the case of Staroffice/OpenOffice, it seems to me that real reason behind the split is to 'force' people to use Solaris instead of Linux. If that's the case, I don't it was a good idea: people will still use Linux (as long as OpenOffice is still available), and the anger against Sun will increase with this move.
It's getting so it's hard to count all the different versions of Blade Runner out there
Are all those versions going to be merged in a near future? Gee, the movie is from the 80's, it should have only a stable release, not that much trees...
Marty McFly's jacket
That picture doesn't show it, but while she was celebrating the victory, she always hit the gnome who has using his gold to forge the medals, so yes, it could have killed it.
I'm pretty sure there's a button to turn it off.
:), imagine disabling some weird advanced option on the media player...
Even if there is such button (I wouldn't be surprised if it there isn't, as freedom of choice is not a common characteristic of M$), it should be already turned off by default. Most of the XP - Xtupid Product - users don't even create an user for themselves (they use the default owner one, whose name shouldn't be more appropriated -> owned
If you have a few spare bucks, you could get a segway!
Maybe it should be an episode where Mulder, The Lone Gunmen and The Tick try to discover how the Millenim Group is linked to the project Harsh Realm.
Just for the record, a friend of mine bought an HP zt1180 laptop (which is a "HP pavilion notebook pc", as noted in the box) recently, and it DOES come with a set of recovery CDs, 3 at total (I know because I'm planning to buy one too, and I was wondering if I could sell the OEMed XP that comes with it), so the problem must be only in the desktop line (the original article doesn't make distinction between then)
so what are the other 14 CDs for? I don't know what 'HP Learning Adventure' is
It's a tool to teach you how to waste disk space...
In that case I'm just going to rent the VHS tape when it comes out.
:)
Come on, it's digital. At least, rent the DVD version
In any case, I keep envisioning a bad, B-movie horror flick starring this dude. "Giant Scorpions Attack!"
...
Or maybe The Scorpion King
I think you're missing something.
:).
True. I actually didn't express well my opinion in the first post (I also missed this response to the slashdot submission system or to mozilla 0.9.8 forms
Kernel versions with an odd number in the second position are development versions
I know that. What I was surprised with was the quick acceptance of such patches, in particular the preemptive one. Judging by the following interview, I think that even Robert Love was skeptical about it:
Love: Linus said at ALS this year he was interested in the preempt-kernel patch. That doesn't mean anything to me until we are in, though, but it is a good sign.
There is opposition. There are various issues that need to be dealt with. I believe it is a sane move for 2.5. The patch has seen a lot of testing and we have a lot of users.
I do not want to predict whether it will be merged for 2.5. Time will tell.
this is what Linus has been doing for at least the last 6 years that I've been on LKLM.
.3 and .4 releases).
Yeah, I agree. But normally changes of this nature (specially in the case of the preemptive patch) take many releases to get in, but this time they happened very early in the tree (in the
I'm not complaining/trolling (actually, I'm happy with the news), but it's interesting to notice what Linus is up to recently:
:)
- he is considering to use BitKeeper
- he accepted the preemptive kernel in the kernel
- he did something else I don't recall now (will search slashdot after this post
- he accepted alsa on the kernel
Maybe he is finally realizing that Linux is not only "his toy" anymore...
I really can't understand Fox.
PS: forgot to mention, but Fox is really one of a kind. While it created some good shows (Futurama, Simpsons, X Files, King of the Hill, Dark Angel, 24, Malcom in the Middle, etc..), it also brought us a lot of crap (Who wants to marry a millionaire?, The Chamber, Who wants to be a princess?, The Alien's Autopsy, and so on...)
So it's going to get cancelled
Actually, we could say the cancellation process is already there. They just aired 4 episodes so far in this season.
I really can't understand Fox. Futurama is really good, it didn't get in the repititive/appelative stage where the Simpsons is ye (don't get me wrong, I'm a big Simpsons fan too, I just think it's time to pull the plug and move on to the big screen), and now they are cancelling it (while I bet the Simpsons will still survive for a couple of years). I just hope they don't cancel King of the Hill too..