But that's just it, there still is no centralized program or company to target. Sure, they go after tracker web sites and maybe shut a few down...but then 10 more take their place the very next day. Kaaza and Napster are very big targets from single companies that can pull the plug from their servers. A bittorrent web site may go dark, but the torrents are still out there pumping away in the dark.
It's not going away and just because the RIAA waves a few lawsuits in peoples faces doesn't mean anything. It's still going to go on.
Also, I'm not saying it right or wrong. All I'm saying is that the RIAA is fighting a losing battle.
when I say "open source" in relation to this it means that the source code for Bittorrent is all over the world. People can see it and modify it and make it better and make it different to where no one can even know where something is coming from or where it's going etc etc...
Napster shut down back then because it was a central place with closed software that was a huge target. Same with Kaaza.
Where are the subpoenas going to go for the many people that use Bittorrent...a program that is even used by bigger companies to parcel out software updates such as Blizzard does with World of Warcraft.
But no, I wasn't using a buzzword like "open source" to say it will help everything. "hey man, dont worry, it's that open source shit man...it's that Linux...we'll Linux it over everything. Open source it linux-like and they'll never find our googlized-FSF-GNU-linux-source man...we'll source it...see?". Lol
But hey, I'm still waiting for the RIAA to demand the shut down of the entire Internet.
How are they going to shut down something that has no central server...and is open source?
Go after the original author? Then what? The source is out there under the MIT licence...so then the RIAA would have to go after the licence and have it rendered null...and would they really want to open up that can-o-worms?
Also, don't bathe for a few days beforehand, make sure your hair is as messy as possible.
Don't sleep for 2 days beforehand either.
Oh, and at every opportunity keep asking to borrow a few bucks from each of the kids.
When a parent or school official comes by make sure you start shuffling papers and typing on a keyboard to show that "I'm doing something". Then when they walk away just mumble under your breath "damn Suits".
In fact, mumble under your breath quite a bit, and don't forget your red Swingline stapler...because they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire...
Did I say that I was downloading anything? I said "the people that download". I get my music either through CD's or iTunes. Mainly iTunes.
Did I say anything about where I even stand on the issue? I was pointing out the obvious.
The music industry is changing, for the better I belive, and the power of an artists music is going BACK to where it belongs: with the artists. How many times do we have to hear about the recording industry ripping off artists? Almost all of the money should go to the artists with the record company getting a small stake in it. But as it stands now it's the other way around. But times are changing. The RIAA knows this and their fighting to their last breath to not have this change because all their free, easy money goes with it.
But again, before you go around calling people "a plain and simple thief" make sure you know who you're talking about.
They won't shut down BitTorrent. They can't shut something down unless it's a central entity.
I mean, they could try to go after the original programmer of Bittorrent or something, though the source out in the world protected by the MIT licence...so the RIAA would also have to challenge that if they want to "shut it down".
They close a tracker site down, 10 more pop up. Bittorrent isn't going anywhere and in fact will become better and better.
The RIAA are fighting a losing battle...do they have a right to fight it, sure. But I still belive they should instead try to find a better solution then what they're attempting, because as you can see, it doesn't really stop anyone from trading music. They shut down Napster, people still trade, they shut down Kaaza people still trade. In fact, I'm willing to bet that more people trade music today then they EVER did when Napster was around. I have no facts to back that up, it's just a hunch.
Prof. Frink: It's because the Government as the troops and the guns and the tanks and the fire falling from the sky with the burning people running amok in an orgy of blood and kicking and the biting with the metal teeth and the hurting and shoving...
I don't care much for quiet, I'm more into keeping everything cool, and if that means that it's not quiet, then so be it.
Check into the Coolermaster CM/Stacker with it's drive bays and 4-in-3 Device Module that can be removed and big 120mm fans placed into the front of a stack of 3 5.25 drives. You can add more 4-in-3 modules with fans if you wish. Not to mention the Cross Flow Fan that blows air across the entire motherboard.
Loud? Not as bad as you would think. The bigger the fans btw the less they have to turn to generate the same airflow as a 90 or 80mm fan. But some may find the fans too much, which is why I keep mine under the computer table. I hardly notice it...but your milage may vary.
Oh sure, at first they'll be on the up and up. But after a while, with so many songs just laying around, soon a young cop...not getting paid enough, will start skimming a few songs off the raid for himself. He'll think "hey, there's so many songs here, they won't know I took a few!"
Then after a while, he's a major song peddler himself...and the bittorrent pirates will know they can pay him off with a few dozen songs here and there. Corruption will seep into the ranks of the bittorrent police and soon after that, it makes way for the song cartels.
Maybe it's just about PR...making things look good to the average guy on the street, who thinks going to Mars is way cooler.
No, Joe Average...at least the Joe Averages we have here in Michigan...think "gee, we spend billions on NASA, can't I just pay less taxes then see it go to some stupid robot on Mars?" (Just repeating what I hear around here, I do NOT agree with it, so don't yell at me).
The Joe Averages vision is very narrow, they only see the factory/office/dungeon they work at everyday, and the bar where they get together with their buddies to complain about government waste and they see the space program as a huge waste.
This is why we see great projects like Hubble getting scraped because of a pencil pusher being pushed by an administrator who's being pushed by a Senator who's being pushed by a few Joe Averages that may or may not vote for him next term.
Nevermind the great advancements in science due to all these programs.
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Wow, how did this get modded as a troll? Are there mods out there that wish for the demise of Hubble or something? This is a very real thing that's happening and it's going to be a tragic loss.
I rank the success of Hubble right up there with Apollo in terms of NASA's crowning moments.
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"Using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope...
Yeah, in the very near future, they'll say "wow, if only we had an orbiting telescope..."
It doesn't matter that Linus is using a Mac...not one iota of difference.
Linux is run by the community, not by one person. If Linus all of a sudden said "I'm going to work on MS Windows now and will never ever ever again touch Linux" it wouldn't matter. Linux will go on without even a blip...
If indeed something bad were to happen just because one person in thousands that develop for Linux went to a different hardware platform, then how stable is Linux afterall? You make it sound like a house of cards built on one card at it's base. It isn't.
And please, do NOT get into that figurehead and image bullshit. I don't have time for that...I just want an OS that's stable, reliable and built tough as nails.
Though, if you do keep a journal on what you see everyday...you're "reporting" what your experiences are.
If the "style" of your journal that you keep everyday of what you see and witness is the same as that of a newpaper...meaning "just the facts mam" is this still not reporting?
If I keep an online journal of what I'm seeing everyday and I happen to see Apple employees unloading a new computer model that hasn't been released or even talked about..shouldn't I be able to post what I've seen? What if a tech-sheet happens to have fallen on the ground and I got a glimpse of that sheet and saw the specs of this new computer...could I not write about what I saw? Am I tied down? I mean, I witnessed it, I saw it, it's my journal, can't I just post what I saw?
With this ruling, the courts are saying no, I can't do this. Free speech? Hello? Ok...what about me standing on a street corner just telling people what I saw...am I also banned from doing this too?
Well, I can't see how these blogs are not protected like any other form.
I mean, when someone brings up the Drudge Report, most don't question if he's a reporter or not anymore...when in fact when you look at everything, the Drudge Report is nothing but a blog. It was a blog when it started, it's a blog now.
So since this thing was ruled on I guess The Drudge Report will also suffer the same fate and not be protected either. I would expect to start seeing it brought in front of a judge soon too.
Of COURSE they're going to have this on the news and general media...they will certainly play up "hey, we have detection equipment so sensitive that it picked up on someone getting radiation treatment".
It's a propaganda tactic, play up that they can detect almost anything to make the bad guys think twice in trying to slip something in undetected. Since plutonium etc is hard to get as it is, perhaps the bad guys wouldn't want to risk losing it so easily (the risk here is losing the plutonium, not "getting caught" as human life means nothing to them as they've shown over and over).
Don't really have an opinion one way or another about Pournelle but I have to say that you bring back some fond fond memories of Byte Magazine.
I subscribed to that and read each one at least 3 times it seems. I didn't really read Pournelle's column that much because he seemed to be a blowhard that got free equipment at "Chaos Manor" and this thing called a Cheetah that he kept refering to...as I said I usually just skimmed it so I never retained enough info to know what the hell he was going on about. So having said all that, I guess I do kinda-sorta have an opinion about him afterall!
Oh, I'm sure it will pass in Utah...the question is, will it remain. I'm saying it won't. It will get challenged and brought before a higher court.
Just because it's a state law doesn't mean it won't get challenged before the US Supreme court (if they decide to take it that is). A state just can't run rough-shod over the US Constitution and the 1st amendment like this without fear of a challenge. The ACLU will be all over this one.
But this never happens. The SCOTUS has been stacked almost 100% with bible beaters before the current crop and STILL they don't let BS through. Abortion, Church & State, Free Speech have all been up before the court...and not in front of the so-called "liberal" court either.
Stacking the courts have never really worked either. Remember, 25 of the past 37 years have been with a conservative, bible-thumping president "stacking the courts" to no avail. I honestly belive that when a justice is put on the Supreme court they honestly look at the law and the Constitution regarless of their religious beliefs and who put them there. Look at their track record...for instance they could have easily have gone on the side of Jerry Falwell against Larry Flint and Hustler Magazine. But the Constitution won out. I could site case after case. Sure, there may be a few in there that totally don't make sense, but I have faith in the system at it's highest level...it's at it's lowest level that needs to be fixed. Like when murderers get out after 2 years yet a kid selling a sheet of acid get's 20 years etc etc.
Getting away from the subject, but in then end, this will not pass. The bible thumpers have been trying forever to get magazines like Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler banned totally...yet the opposite has happened. The Porn industry is bigger today then it's EVER been. We're talking billions of dollars a year.
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Europe without Europeans would be more like "Europia" right? Get it...Utopia/Europia? Europe without Europeans is an Utopia? Right? Get it?
Ok, wasn't that damn funny...
But that's just it, there still is no centralized program or company to target. Sure, they go after tracker web sites and maybe shut a few down...but then 10 more take their place the very next day. Kaaza and Napster are very big targets from single companies that can pull the plug from their servers. A bittorrent web site may go dark, but the torrents are still out there pumping away in the dark.
It's not going away and just because the RIAA waves a few lawsuits in peoples faces doesn't mean anything. It's still going to go on.
Also, I'm not saying it right or wrong. All I'm saying is that the RIAA is fighting a losing battle.
when I say "open source" in relation to this it means that the source code for Bittorrent is all over the world. People can see it and modify it and make it better and make it different to where no one can even know where something is coming from or where it's going etc etc...
Napster shut down back then because it was a central place with closed software that was a huge target. Same with Kaaza.
Where are the subpoenas going to go for the many people that use Bittorrent...a program that is even used by bigger companies to parcel out software updates such as Blizzard does with World of Warcraft.
But no, I wasn't using a buzzword like "open source" to say it will help everything. "hey man, dont worry, it's that open source shit man...it's that Linux...we'll Linux it over everything. Open source it linux-like and they'll never find our googlized-FSF-GNU-linux-source man...we'll source it...see?". Lol
But hey, I'm still waiting for the RIAA to demand the shut down of the entire Internet.
How are they going to shut down something that has no central server...and is open source?
Go after the original author? Then what? The source is out there under the MIT licence...so then the RIAA would have to go after the licence and have it rendered null...and would they really want to open up that can-o-worms?
Also, don't bathe for a few days beforehand, make sure your hair is as messy as possible.
Don't sleep for 2 days beforehand either.
Oh, and at every opportunity keep asking to borrow a few bucks from each of the kids.
When a parent or school official comes by make sure you start shuffling papers and typing on a keyboard to show that "I'm doing something". Then when they walk away just mumble under your breath "damn Suits".
In fact, mumble under your breath quite a bit, and don't forget your red Swingline stapler...because they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire...
Did I say that I was downloading anything? I said "the people that download". I get my music either through CD's or iTunes. Mainly iTunes.
Did I say anything about where I even stand on the issue? I was pointing out the obvious.
The music industry is changing, for the better I belive, and the power of an artists music is going BACK to where it belongs: with the artists. How many times do we have to hear about the recording industry ripping off artists? Almost all of the money should go to the artists with the record company getting a small stake in it. But as it stands now it's the other way around. But times are changing. The RIAA knows this and their fighting to their last breath to not have this change because all their free, easy money goes with it.
But again, before you go around calling people "a plain and simple thief" make sure you know who you're talking about.
They won't shut down BitTorrent. They can't shut something down unless it's a central entity.
I mean, they could try to go after the original programmer of Bittorrent or something, though the source out in the world protected by the MIT licence...so the RIAA would also have to challenge that if they want to "shut it down".
They close a tracker site down, 10 more pop up. Bittorrent isn't going anywhere and in fact will become better and better.
The RIAA are fighting a losing battle...do they have a right to fight it, sure. But I still belive they should instead try to find a better solution then what they're attempting, because as you can see, it doesn't really stop anyone from trading music. They shut down Napster, people still trade, they shut down Kaaza people still trade. In fact, I'm willing to bet that more people trade music today then they EVER did when Napster was around. I have no facts to back that up, it's just a hunch.
Of course, I could be totally wrong.
The RIAA is about to shut down another service that no one uses anymore! Way to go!
Glad to see them wasting their money by pissing it away like this. The people that download music/movies will always be about 10 steps ahead of them.
King Kong? Um...it's been remade once...that's it. The second "remake" wasn't really a remake anyway as it was an updated story.
At least Jackson is keeping it in the 1930's. And it looks pretty good so far.
But I agree with your other choices. But King Kong hasn't been "beaten into the ground" at all.
Prof. Frink: It's because the Government as the troops and the guns and the tanks and the fire falling from the sky with the burning people running amok in an orgy of blood and kicking and the biting with the metal teeth and the hurting and shoving...
That's why the Goverment is first.
I don't care much for quiet, I'm more into keeping everything cool, and if that means that it's not quiet, then so be it.
Check into the Coolermaster CM/Stacker with it's drive bays and 4-in-3 Device Module that can be removed and big 120mm fans placed into the front of a stack of 3 5.25 drives. You can add more 4-in-3 modules with fans if you wish. Not to mention the Cross Flow Fan that blows air across the entire motherboard.
Loud? Not as bad as you would think. The bigger the fans btw the less they have to turn to generate the same airflow as a 90 or 80mm fan. But some may find the fans too much, which is why I keep mine under the computer table. I hardly notice it...but your milage may vary.
Oh sure, at first they'll be on the up and up. But after a while, with so many songs just laying around, soon a young cop...not getting paid enough, will start skimming a few songs off the raid for himself. He'll think "hey, there's so many songs here, they won't know I took a few!"
Then after a while, he's a major song peddler himself...and the bittorrent pirates will know they can pay him off with a few dozen songs here and there. Corruption will seep into the ranks of the bittorrent police and soon after that, it makes way for the song cartels.
Maybe someone should say "hey, ya know, I think there's a huge quantity of oil on Mars...we just need to go get it and it's ours".
If someone did that, we'd have a man on Mars before the end of 2006.
Nah, we just keep a supply of cute, bald women around to throw at it when it returns.
Maybe it's just about PR...making things look good to the average guy on the street, who thinks going to Mars is way cooler.
No, Joe Average...at least the Joe Averages we have here in Michigan...think "gee, we spend billions on NASA, can't I just pay less taxes then see it go to some stupid robot on Mars?" (Just repeating what I hear around here, I do NOT agree with it, so don't yell at me).
The Joe Averages vision is very narrow, they only see the factory/office/dungeon they work at everyday, and the bar where they get together with their buddies to complain about government waste and they see the space program as a huge waste.
This is why we see great projects like Hubble getting scraped because of a pencil pusher being pushed by an administrator who's being pushed by a Senator who's being pushed by a few Joe Averages that may or may not vote for him next term.
Nevermind the great advancements in science due to all these programs.
Wow, how did this get modded as a troll? Are there mods out there that wish for the demise of Hubble or something? This is a very real thing that's happening and it's going to be a tragic loss.
I rank the success of Hubble right up there with Apollo in terms of NASA's crowning moments.
"Using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope...
Yeah, in the very near future, they'll say "wow, if only we had an orbiting telescope..."
Back to the stone-ages for us!
It doesn't matter that Linus is using a Mac...not one iota of difference.
Linux is run by the community, not by one person. If Linus all of a sudden said "I'm going to work on MS Windows now and will never ever ever again touch Linux" it wouldn't matter. Linux will go on without even a blip...
If indeed something bad were to happen just because one person in thousands that develop for Linux went to a different hardware platform, then how stable is Linux afterall? You make it sound like a house of cards built on one card at it's base. It isn't.
And please, do NOT get into that figurehead and image bullshit. I don't have time for that...I just want an OS that's stable, reliable and built tough as nails.
Though, if you do keep a journal on what you see everyday...you're "reporting" what your experiences are.
If the "style" of your journal that you keep everyday of what you see and witness is the same as that of a newpaper...meaning "just the facts mam" is this still not reporting?
If I keep an online journal of what I'm seeing everyday and I happen to see Apple employees unloading a new computer model that hasn't been released or even talked about..shouldn't I be able to post what I've seen? What if a tech-sheet happens to have fallen on the ground and I got a glimpse of that sheet and saw the specs of this new computer...could I not write about what I saw? Am I tied down? I mean, I witnessed it, I saw it, it's my journal, can't I just post what I saw?
With this ruling, the courts are saying no, I can't do this. Free speech? Hello? Ok...what about me standing on a street corner just telling people what I saw...am I also banned from doing this too?
Just wondering.
Well, I can't see how these blogs are not protected like any other form.
I mean, when someone brings up the Drudge Report, most don't question if he's a reporter or not anymore...when in fact when you look at everything, the Drudge Report is nothing but a blog. It was a blog when it started, it's a blog now.
So since this thing was ruled on I guess The Drudge Report will also suffer the same fate and not be protected either. I would expect to start seeing it brought in front of a judge soon too.
Of COURSE they're going to have this on the news and general media...they will certainly play up "hey, we have detection equipment so sensitive that it picked up on someone getting radiation treatment".
It's a propaganda tactic, play up that they can detect almost anything to make the bad guys think twice in trying to slip something in undetected. Since plutonium etc is hard to get as it is, perhaps the bad guys wouldn't want to risk losing it so easily (the risk here is losing the plutonium, not "getting caught" as human life means nothing to them as they've shown over and over).
Don't really have an opinion one way or another about Pournelle but I have to say that you bring back some fond fond memories of Byte Magazine.
I subscribed to that and read each one at least 3 times it seems. I didn't really read Pournelle's column that much because he seemed to be a blowhard that got free equipment at "Chaos Manor" and this thing called a Cheetah that he kept refering to...as I said I usually just skimmed it so I never retained enough info to know what the hell he was going on about. So having said all that, I guess I do kinda-sorta have an opinion about him afterall!
You've brought up some very valid points. It will certainly be interesting to watch what happens with this in the grand scheme of things.
Oh, I'm sure it will pass in Utah...the question is, will it remain. I'm saying it won't. It will get challenged and brought before a higher court.
Just because it's a state law doesn't mean it won't get challenged before the US Supreme court (if they decide to take it that is). A state just can't run rough-shod over the US Constitution and the 1st amendment like this without fear of a challenge. The ACLU will be all over this one.
But this never happens. The SCOTUS has been stacked almost 100% with bible beaters before the current crop and STILL they don't let BS through. Abortion, Church & State, Free Speech have all been up before the court...and not in front of the so-called "liberal" court either.
Stacking the courts have never really worked either. Remember, 25 of the past 37 years have been with a conservative, bible-thumping president "stacking the courts" to no avail. I honestly belive that when a justice is put on the Supreme court they honestly look at the law and the Constitution regarless of their religious beliefs and who put them there. Look at their track record...for instance they could have easily have gone on the side of Jerry Falwell against Larry Flint and Hustler Magazine. But the Constitution won out. I could site case after case. Sure, there may be a few in there that totally don't make sense, but I have faith in the system at it's highest level...it's at it's lowest level that needs to be fixed. Like when murderers get out after 2 years yet a kid selling a sheet of acid get's 20 years etc etc.
Getting away from the subject, but in then end, this will not pass. The bible thumpers have been trying forever to get magazines like Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler banned totally...yet the opposite has happened. The Porn industry is bigger today then it's EVER been. We're talking billions of dollars a year.