Have you just chosen to forget that America was populated thousands of years before settlers from european countries showed up and exterminated them?
So Americans are somehow more evil than every other people who have displaced earlier populations? The Chinese displacing the Thai; the Japanese displacing the Ainu; the African Negro displacing the African Khoisan; The Innuit displacing the Vikings in Greenland; Modern humans displacing Neanderthals; The Hebrews displacing the Canaanites. It's a sad fact but the history of the world is full of displacements, diasporas, and decimations of aboriginal populations.
Am I supposed to hate myself because I'm part Cherokee (1/8th, small to be sure, but enough so I could legally seek tribal membership)? Oh did I forget to mention interbreeding occured with most but not all of these displacements.
if there isn't a TV show about it, it doesnt exist?
Sadly for most people that's true. Good TV is rare and hopefully a good show will encourage you to go beyond it to other sources of information. Books,web, magazines, etc. The key here is that with intelligent television we can have intelligent discussions based on a common topic. And TV offers a common topic to people thousands of miles apart.
L5 in 95 was the bumper sticker mantra of the L5 Society. The solar power satellite concept was O'Neill's scheme to put humans permanently in space. He said it was the best place where a high tech civilization could thrive. Then he asked how can we justify the expense of building space habitats. His answer was to mine the Moon and build solar power satellites. And use the profits from the power sold to earth. to build more space habitats.
If the power companies had only known! They could be reaping whirlwind profits today from California's energy crisis. They could be taking the satellites offline to repair meteorite damage. Claim the Moon or Earth is blocking the Sun. There's an ion storm. Help! Help! We're being attacked by Ewoks!...but I digress.
The society formed with the intention of disbanding on the first permanent space habitat. Sadly, this did not happen. By the time 1987 rolled around the L5 Society merged with the National Space Institute and changed it's name to the National Space Society.
Ack! I'm having flashbacks to my mispent youth:
Senator William Proxmire: Are you now or have you ever been a member of the L5 Society?
Witness: I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that you'll cut NASA funding and go and spend it on cheese subsidies.
Bonus question: What does L5 mean? And which brand of foil is best to line my hat to protect me from the orbital mind control lasers?
I guess the DNA study is a recent development. P revious researchers think they may have been related to the Celts. The Weegas (God knows how many English spelling variations ther are) probably have some ancestry from these peoples. Some of them have blue eyes, which can be seen in other shows about Western China. They do share some cultural characteristics with the mummies. Over time the caucasoid gene pool was replaced by the mongoloid gene pool.
Why oh why is it that all the cool stuff about the history of mankind... er ah humanity is in countries that aren't friendly to America? China, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, etc.
If you think the international politics are bad. Just check out our very own domestic Graves Act. It allowed aboriginal Americans to claim the 9,000 year old bones of the Kennewick Man as their direct ancestor. Nova also covered this issue with Mystery of the First Americans. His genes show that he's most closely related to the Ainu.
The peopling of the Earth is a contentious issue and probably will be until all our genes are thoroughly mixed and we become a uniform gray with no outward sexual differentiation.
Shades of Clockwork Orange! Viewers will be strapped into chairs with their eyes forced open to watch commercials on their shiny new digital tamperproof televisions. Only to be released long enough to earn money and buy the goods they are hawking.
It's only 1's and 0's folks. Why get upset about the greedy, power mad digital distribution cartels (e.g. RIAA & MPAA)? I say vote with your credit cards and don't buy those DTV's--even when they are your only choice.
TV was called the Boob tube a long time ago. This implied that it was somehow nourishing to fat happy couch potato babies. Soon the TV entertainment and manufacturing industries will feed us Digital Spoo with their new tool. The wise TV industry execs says "Ah, they've sucked on the analog glass tit for so long they won't even notice when we have them suck on our new digital glass... er, ah tool. Yeah, that's it tool. And they'll swallow too."
This troll also goes by Nemesis on the sci.physics.relativity newsgroup. He's a popular killfile item. He really likes to call people "prevaricating little lapdogs." This means he knows how to use a thesaurus and possibly a dictionary as well. He seems only capable of ad hominem attacks.
Math does not create physics.
Ack! He doesn't seem to be able to tell difference between a map and the actual road.
from the Simpsons' Episode:
$pringfield (or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling):
Mr. Burns - "Quick, Smithers! We'll take the Spruce Goose. Hop in."
Waylon Smithers - "But that's just a model."
Mr. Burns, cocking a revolver - "I said, 'Hop in.'"
On the actual subject of the article: That is simply fascinating. I would like to see them add an experiment to the proposed Pluto probe to study this phenomenon further.
Pluto-Kuiper Express
I know some people want to privatize government functions but this is taking it too far.
I said "I was just taking my monkey for a walk, officer." and you know wht he said "Sorry son you are breaking Title 69." So I sez back to him "Let me see that law!"
"That'll be tree-fiddy."
That's when I noticed that the officer was eight stories tall, covered with green scales and had big red eyes. It was the Loch Ness monster!
"I ain't givin' no damn monster tree-fiddy. Get your own goddamn money."
I worked at a company that was the last major consumer of Amigas in the United States. Remember the Prevue Channel, now the TV Guide Channel. It use to be the blue scrolly thing and now it's the gold scrolly thing. Well, the blue scrolly thing displayed half or quarter screen video in the top half and the bottom half had the listings for your local cable channels. The satellite video feed was passed through but the listings were displayed locally from the Amiga.
They had over 2,000 Amiga 2000's in the field at cable head ends across the country. Two years ago they finally replaced them with NT boxes that had a special video card in it. They kept the Amigas going by remanufacturing them and buying up old Amigas and parts wherever they could scrounge them. Forgotten warehouses, flea markets, Amiga bounty hunters, etc.
The reason they got stuck with having to keep reusing the Amiga 2000's was because the custom demod card used to receive the listings data would only fit in the 2000's and wouldn't fit properly in the 3000's or 4000's.
So rather than getting stuck with a dying computer they switched to a platform that they felt wasn't going to go away ten years after they adopted it. They chose Microsoft and Intel. I doubt Linux or Mac was seriously considered when the R&D boys were architecting the new system.
I enjoyed working for them when I did, though they thought Microsoft was the answer to all their problems.
All your problems begin to look like nails when all you have is a hammer.
If anyone should apologize it should be the Chinese. This is the game they play. They are still pissed about the US accidentally bombing their embassy in Belgrade. Besides, they are testing the resolve of the new administration. They'll release the crew when they feel they have enough information from the plane. Hopefully the crew had time to destroy anything sensitive before the PLA captured them.
The only opt-in I want is for direct marketing. Opt-out means you have to maintain two lists and therefore more prone to error.
The biggest problem with Napster is the way the program builds the song list to share. It uses the file name. It should be using the ID3 tags. Of course the users would have to fill in those pesky little tag fields but Napster could refuse to share them unless it is filled out. At a very minimum it should be artist, song title, and album title.
Then to prevent mispellings intentional or not a spellchecker could be integrated for some kind of fuzzy blocking. I'd have to sit down and think how that would work but it would be a useful tool.
Don't get me wrong. The RIAA is evil. They don't give a rat's ass about the musicians. The care only about their control. Profit is secondary to these jerks.
I'm sorry I don't follow the logic. Satellite photos then and now showing global warming does NOT equal humans are the cause. Mmmkay.
I am so jaded by the media that I can barely trust them on anything vaguely scientific. I don't believe these immanent global catastrophe pronouncements any more. I do believe that humans have a large impact on the planet but has anyone stopped to check to see how big it is compared to other natural forces? One good volcanic eruption can change the weather more quickly than fifty years of burning fossil fuels. El niño causes more damage than humans do.
Yes, we should be better stewards of the Earth but we shouldn't use every doom and gloom piece to push someone's political agenda. There are many things we don't understand about global climate changes and the impact humanity has on on the climate. Good science takes time.
They can have my fossil fuel burning car when they pry my cold dead fingers from the steering column.
After watching the Dune mini-series I can say that this was better than any other original Sci Fi Channel movie I've seen to date (and that's not saying much). At first I thought it was better than the 1984 movie. But on thinking it over it wasn't. And I didn't like the theatrical version either. I really hated the rain scene at the end. The mini series showed the digital sand morphing into digital grass at the end.
Baron Harkonnen never flew around. His immense bulk was merely bouyed up by suspensors. But he flew around in both versions. It's too bad when Alia pricked him with the gom jabbar he didn't pop or fly around the room like a balloon with the air rushing out. Oh wait he did do that.
The Sardaukar were portrayed as being worse shots than Star Wars Imperial Stormtroopers. Not only could they not hit the broad side of a sandworm they couldn't stop Fremen armed only with Crysknives. And don't get me started on the knives. The screenwriter had no respect for the novel Dune and if he did it didn't show in the mini-series. At least David Lynch did have respect for the novel.
I think the actor who played Stilgar deserves the
2000 Mannequin Skywalker Award for Wooden Acting.
And what's up with his grey Smurf outfit at the end of the movie? For that matter what was up with Paul's Karate Kid Emporer outfit. Not to mention how stupid the vast majority of the costumes looked.
My vote for worst scene had to be when the Fremen killed Rabban. So they are stabbing this guy to death and this little kid makes off with his head. I guess they were so busy stabbing they didn't notice his head was missing. The kid runs up some stairs and holds Rabban's head up and the people stop stabbing the now headless corpse and look up and cheer.
If I remember correctly the glowglobes weren't basketball sized papier-mache lamps. I think they were about the size of a grapefruit.
I could go on but I won't. Yes a screen adaptation is going to be different than the original novel. It has to be. They are different mediums. Overall this adaptation sucked bigtime.
And finally here are the original titles of the Dune book series:
Dune
Dune Messiah
Children of Dune
God Emperor of Dune
Heretics of Dune
Chapterhouse: Dune
Dune: House Atreides
Dune: House Harkonnen
I think if the Sci Fi Channel decides to do the entire series they should use the following titles:
Dune
Dune Meshugeneh
Bastards of Dune
The Swaggering, Overbearing, Tin-Plated Dictator with Delusions of Godhood Emperor of Dune
(or May All Our Duncan Idahoes Be Remembered)
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Have you just chosen to forget that America was populated thousands of years before settlers from european countries showed up and exterminated them?
So Americans are somehow more evil than every other people who have displaced earlier populations? The Chinese displacing the Thai; the Japanese displacing the Ainu; the African Negro displacing the African Khoisan; The Innuit displacing the Vikings in Greenland; Modern humans displacing Neanderthals; The Hebrews displacing the Canaanites. It's a sad fact but the history of the world is full of displacements, diasporas, and decimations of aboriginal populations.
Am I supposed to hate myself because I'm part Cherokee (1/8th, small to be sure, but enough so I could legally seek tribal membership)? Oh did I forget to mention interbreeding occured with most but not all of these displacements.
if there isn't a TV show about it, it doesnt exist?
Sadly for most people that's true. Good TV is rare and hopefully a good show will encourage you to go beyond it to other sources of information. Books,web, magazines, etc. The key here is that with intelligent television we can have intelligent discussions based on a common topic. And TV offers a common topic to people thousands of miles apart.
L5 in 95 was the bumper sticker mantra of the L5 Society. The solar power satellite concept was O'Neill's scheme to put humans permanently in space. He said it was the best place where a high tech civilization could thrive. Then he asked how can we justify the expense of building space habitats. His answer was to mine the Moon and build solar power satellites. And use the profits from the power sold to earth. to build more space habitats.
If the power companies had only known! They could be reaping whirlwind profits today from California's energy crisis. They could be taking the satellites offline to repair meteorite damage. Claim the Moon or Earth is blocking the Sun. There's an ion storm. Help! Help! We're being attacked by Ewoks! ...but I digress.
The society formed with the intention of disbanding on the first permanent space habitat. Sadly, this did not happen. By the time 1987 rolled around the L5 Society merged with the National Space Institute and changed it's name to the National Space Society.
Ack! I'm having flashbacks to my mispent youth:
Bonus question: What does L5 mean? And which brand of foil is best to line my hat to protect me from the orbital mind control lasers?Senator William Proxmire: Are you now or have you ever been a member of the L5 Society?
Witness: I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that you'll cut NASA funding and go and spend it on cheese subsidies.
I guess the DNA study is a recent development. P revious researchers think they may have been related to the Celts. The Weegas (God knows how many English spelling variations ther are) probably have some ancestry from these peoples. Some of them have blue eyes, which can be seen in other shows about Western China. They do share some cultural characteristics with the mummies. Over time the caucasoid gene pool was replaced by the mongoloid gene pool.
Check out PBS 1998 Nova's Mysterious Mummies of China and for 1999 the Discovery Channel's Riddle of the Desert Mummies
Why oh why is it that all the cool stuff about the history of mankind... er ah humanity is in countries that aren't friendly to America? China, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, etc.
If you think the international politics are bad. Just check out our very own domestic Graves Act. It allowed aboriginal Americans to claim the 9,000 year old bones of the Kennewick Man as their direct ancestor. Nova also covered this issue with Mystery of the First Americans. His genes show that he's most closely related to the Ainu.
The peopling of the Earth is a contentious issue and probably will be until all our genes are thoroughly mixed and we become a uniform gray with no outward sexual differentiation.
Shades of Clockwork Orange! Viewers will be strapped into chairs with their eyes forced open to watch commercials on their shiny new digital tamperproof televisions. Only to be released long enough to earn money and buy the goods they are hawking.
It's only 1's and 0's folks. Why get upset about the greedy, power mad digital distribution cartels (e.g. RIAA & MPAA)? I say vote with your credit cards and don't buy those DTV's--even when they are your only choice.
TV was called the Boob tube a long time ago. This implied that it was somehow nourishing to fat happy couch potato babies. Soon the TV entertainment and manufacturing industries will feed us Digital Spoo with their new tool. The wise TV industry execs says "Ah, they've sucked on the analog glass tit for so long they won't even notice when we have them suck on our new digital glass... er, ah tool. Yeah, that's it tool. And they'll swallow too."
This troll also goes by Nemesis on the sci.physics.relativity newsgroup. He's a popular killfile item. He really likes to call people "prevaricating little lapdogs." This means he knows how to use a thesaurus and possibly a dictionary as well. He seems only capable of ad hominem attacks.
Math does not create physics.Ack! He doesn't seem to be able to tell difference between a map and the actual road.
from the Simpsons' Episode: $pringfield (or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling):
Mr. Burns - "Quick, Smithers! We'll take the Spruce Goose. Hop in."
Waylon Smithers - "But that's just a model."
Mr. Burns, cocking a revolver - "I said, 'Hop in.'"
On the actual subject of the article: That is simply fascinating. I would like to see them add an experiment to the proposed Pluto probe to study this phenomenon further. Pluto-Kuiper Express
I know some people want to privatize government functions but this is taking it too far.
I said "I was just taking my monkey for a walk, officer." and you know wht he said "Sorry son you are breaking Title 69." So I sez back to him "Let me see that law!"
"That'll be tree-fiddy."
That's when I noticed that the officer was eight stories tall, covered with green scales and had big red eyes. It was the Loch Ness monster!
"I ain't givin' no damn monster tree-fiddy. Get your own goddamn money."
I worked at a company that was the last major consumer of Amigas in the United States. Remember the Prevue Channel, now the TV Guide Channel. It use to be the blue scrolly thing and now it's the gold scrolly thing. Well, the blue scrolly thing displayed half or quarter screen video in the top half and the bottom half had the listings for your local cable channels. The satellite video feed was passed through but the listings were displayed locally from the Amiga.
They had over 2,000 Amiga 2000's in the field at cable head ends across the country. Two years ago they finally replaced them with NT boxes that had a special video card in it. They kept the Amigas going by remanufacturing them and buying up old Amigas and parts wherever they could scrounge them. Forgotten warehouses, flea markets, Amiga bounty hunters, etc.
The reason they got stuck with having to keep reusing the Amiga 2000's was because the custom demod card used to receive the listings data would only fit in the 2000's and wouldn't fit properly in the 3000's or 4000's.
So rather than getting stuck with a dying computer they switched to a platform that they felt wasn't going to go away ten years after they adopted it. They chose Microsoft and Intel. I doubt Linux or Mac was seriously considered when the R&D boys were architecting the new system.
I enjoyed working for them when I did, though they thought Microsoft was the answer to all their problems.
All your problems begin to look like nails when all you have is a hammer.
Why should America apologize for China's outrageous behavior? I think Rush Limbaugh's Apology to China should suffice.
If anyone should apologize it should be the Chinese. This is the game they play. They are still pissed about the US accidentally bombing their embassy in Belgrade. Besides, they are testing the resolve of the new administration. They'll release the crew when they feel they have enough information from the plane. Hopefully the crew had time to destroy anything sensitive before the PLA captured them.
The only opt-in I want is for direct marketing. Opt-out means you have to maintain two lists and therefore more prone to error.
The biggest problem with Napster is the way the program builds the song list to share. It uses the file name. It should be using the ID3 tags. Of course the users would have to fill in those pesky little tag fields but Napster could refuse to share them unless it is filled out. At a very minimum it should be artist, song title, and album title.
Then to prevent mispellings intentional or not a spellchecker could be integrated for some kind of fuzzy blocking. I'd have to sit down and think how that would work but it would be a useful tool.
Don't get me wrong. The RIAA is evil. They don't give a rat's ass about the musicians. The care only about their control. Profit is secondary to these jerks.
I'm sorry I don't follow the logic. Satellite photos then and now showing global warming does NOT equal humans are the cause. Mmmkay.
I am so jaded by the media that I can barely trust them on anything vaguely scientific. I don't believe these immanent global catastrophe pronouncements any more. I do believe that humans have a large impact on the planet but has anyone stopped to check to see how big it is compared to other natural forces? One good volcanic eruption can change the weather more quickly than fifty years of burning fossil fuels. El niño causes more damage than humans do.
Yes, we should be better stewards of the Earth but we shouldn't use every doom and gloom piece to push someone's political agenda. There are many things we don't understand about global climate changes and the impact humanity has on on the climate. Good science takes time.
They can have my fossil fuel burning car when they pry my cold dead fingers from the steering column.
After watching the Dune mini-series I can say that this was better than any other original Sci Fi Channel movie I've seen to date (and that's not saying much). At first I thought it was better than the 1984 movie. But on thinking it over it wasn't. And I didn't like the theatrical version either. I really hated the rain scene at the end. The mini series showed the digital sand morphing into digital grass at the end.
Baron Harkonnen never flew around. His immense bulk was merely bouyed up by suspensors. But he flew around in both versions. It's too bad when Alia pricked him with the gom jabbar he didn't pop or fly around the room like a balloon with the air rushing out. Oh wait he did do that.
The Sardaukar were portrayed as being worse shots than Star Wars Imperial Stormtroopers. Not only could they not hit the broad side of a sandworm they couldn't stop Fremen armed only with Crysknives. And don't get me started on the knives. The screenwriter had no respect for the novel Dune and if he did it didn't show in the mini-series. At least David Lynch did have respect for the novel.
I think the actor who played Stilgar deserves the 2000 Mannequin Skywalker Award for Wooden Acting. And what's up with his grey Smurf outfit at the end of the movie? For that matter what was up with Paul's Karate Kid Emporer outfit. Not to mention how stupid the vast majority of the costumes looked.
My vote for worst scene had to be when the Fremen killed Rabban. So they are stabbing this guy to death and this little kid makes off with his head. I guess they were so busy stabbing they didn't notice his head was missing. The kid runs up some stairs and holds Rabban's head up and the people stop stabbing the now headless corpse and look up and cheer.
If I remember correctly the glowglobes weren't basketball sized papier-mache lamps. I think they were about the size of a grapefruit.
I could go on but I won't. Yes a screen adaptation is going to be different than the original novel. It has to be. They are different mediums. Overall this adaptation sucked bigtime.
And finally here are the original titles of the Dune book series:- Dune
- Dune Messiah
- Children of Dune
- God Emperor of Dune
- Heretics of Dune
- Chapterhouse: Dune
- Dune: House Atreides
- Dune: House Harkonnen
I think if the Sci Fi Channel decides to do the entire series they should use the following titles: