Clearly you are blinded by some hate and thus can't read.
Because I suggested the UK should first fix their national policies before blaming others.
I gave an example of those working in hotels and restaurants, similar will be true in other industries.
There is no EU mandated need to accept any and all that visit your country into the HSE cover, at least not they've worked for it.
Don't come with silly excuses like a fair minimum wage for your own people is a communist-like constraint onto employers.
You just confirmed what I wrote, the problem is with lacking national legislation.
Would you have fair minimum wages, collective bargaining agreements etc. there would be no competition of the sort you complain about.
I am a frequent visitor to the UK and am always surprised there are hardly any Brits working in restaurants and hotels, are they too lazy?
There is still wide disparity between the economic strengths of different EU member states, including those within the Eurozone. They still share a common currency but control their own taxation, government spending, and trade relations with partners outside the EU.
This is exactly why I call people idiots that claim you loose sovereignty over your national well-being when joining the common currency.
There are so many tools left for national governments to influence their economy, the Greek example is telling, they refused to balance their taxes vs. spending and are now blaming others.
This happened while Greece could borrow money for rates far below what they would have had to pay before joining the Euro.
Although the German economy is the largest of the EU countries they could never hold up the EU by themselves.
Based on GDP the UK economy is marginally smaller and depending who does the calculations ranks just before or after France, Italy ranks fourth.
Looking at GDP per capita the UK ranks 14th. with Germany 12th, a lot of the smaller economies seem to be giving better returns.
Once again we are seeing big bold headlines claiming massive increase in the UK’s contribution to the EU budget in 2013. We provide figures and explanations below, but first a reminder of some general points that put these figures in context:
Traditionally, the UK net contributions to the EU budget are less than 1% of UK’s public spending.
While all bigger and richer member states are net contributors, as a contribution per capita the UK is behind countries like Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands or Austria, Finland and Belgium.
Finally, the estimated benefits of EU membership for the UK economy vastly exceed the UK’s gross budget contribution, let alone its net one. You don’t have to take our word for it – the CBI estimates the direct net economic benefits alone at between £62bn and £78bn every year http://www.cbi.org.uk/campaign...
Since when are ISO standards run by the EU?
If I remember one rather nasty example of an ISO standard being corrupted for and by for Microsoft, it went via individual nations.
One of those nations was Norway and they are not a even EU member.
http://ec.europa.eu/budget/exp...
For once you should inform yourself.
Your health services are not overloaded because of Brussels, it is because you have a lack of capable national politicians that can legally limit the number of people claiming benefits.
There is no EU rule that forces a nation to pay for visitors, of course there is a rule that makes the nations treat workers equal, a sore point for the conservatives.
Those that work can hardly be considered a drain on the system, on the contrary, they contribute to it.
The EU budget was about €144 bn in 2013 - very small compared to the sum of the 28 EU countries' national budgets (over € 6,400 bn). Total government expenditure by the 28 EU countries is almost 50 times the EU budget!
To put this into perspective, in 2013 the average EU citizen paid 283 euros a year towards the EU budget. This is less than a euro a day - hardly very expensive given the benefits that the EU brings its citizens.
In fact, the EU budget is smaller than the Austrian or Belgian budgets.
The EU budget stands at about 1% of the 28 EU countries' gross domestic product (GDP) – the total value of all goods and services produced in the EU. By contrast, the budgets of EU countries represent 49% of GDP on average.
The EU budget is always balanced, so there is no deficit or debt. And 94% of what is paid into the EU budget is spent in the EU countries on policies and programmes that benefit citizens directly.
To expand on the last sentence, this is not money that disappears in a black hole, people get paid from it.
Denmark is more integrated with the EU than say the UK.
The Danish currency used to be tied tot the Deutschmark and is now tied to the euro, for less cost they could have given up their kroner and joined the euro.
Denmark has a strong EU sceptic party that for once is not led by an idiot but the majority of Danes has always voted for pro-EU parties.
If only to avoid Danish tax and be able to buy their beer in Flensburg.
Norway is due to it's oil a hugely wealthy country with a very unusual tax system that would be hard to integrate with normal countries.
Yet the Norwegians have so many by-lateral treaties with the EU (Schengen!) that they could become a member overnight.
But they are not allowed to vote in Brussels.
The only 'Funny' I see in this thread is that some Brits would rather see their contribution resemble that of countries like Romania and Poland.
The UK is already behind Italy...
Uhh, if I were you I'd check up on which EU members are so in favour of the treaties you mention.
The EU commission is appointed by the democratically elected governments of the member nations, that is arguably more democratic than the first past the post system the UK has!
Many EU countries form their government from people that were not elected, it's the parliament that controls the government what is elected.
Your last sentence is quite challenging coming from someone with your nickname..., who is antagonising who?
What burdens and if so, for whom?
What is by certain British politicians seen as EU burdens are by the vast majority of EU citizen seen as consumer and workers rights.
Therefore it is inconceivable to have open borders without also insisting on a more or less 'Level Playing Field.
You know, that stuff that hard core capitalists hate.
Which raises an interesting question for the Dutch.
After they sold their own national bank, privatisation and such, the Dutch government is now using the Royal Bank of Scotland as it's house bank.
Have they been tasked with, or maybe studied a Dutch exit on their own initiative?
Sorry for the late reply but it can't be denied that the first prophet of Islam was an Arab and it became the next iteration of the existing Middle Eastern Abrahamic religions.
I dare postulate that today's Islam is mainly different from it's predecessors due to great simplification and the inclusion of certain ancient beliefs from the Arabic peninsula.
After all, the holy sites of Mecca had seen worship for much longer than Christianity existed.
I see nothing wrong in my observation Islam is still heavily dominated by Arabic culture or do you feel that culture is somewhat inferior?
To cut it short, I have nothing against Islam as the religion of the Koran (Gods word) but I have serious reservations with the almost automatic inclusion of the Hadith, Sira, Salaphistic and other local customs like female circumcision or the hiding of women from public life.
I'm not so sure I can follow you.
What I meant is that I oppose the idea of writing anything more than the personal freedom of religion into law.
Anywhere.
Yes it is nice to have another Linux system available on TV's.
But more important is for how long, if at all, the manufacturer will support security and other updates.
Most important is if we can install a system of our own choice.
You keep using that word abuse of the drug.
Somewhat interesting is the joint effort between a British and Dutch university team.
As it is legal in their country the Dutch had to do the sniffing and the Brits did the detection of the resulting metabolites?
It is good science, for sure.
For forensic evidence it is really good as this cannot come from just touching some US Dollar notes, you got to at least eat and digest them.
But this will only be interesting once it can detect if a person is under the influence of the drug, merely punishing on past use has only one winner, the privatised penal institutions.
Oh? Then as an actual economist you can maybe spend a few sentences explaining why the OP is 100% wrong.
See, I can understand nothing is black or white but the suggestion that a higher income for many people benefits the local economy is not strange at all, living examples are the Scandinavian countries.
I can see a reason, 'Arab' is generally equated with 'Muslim' and Iran is (how silly can it get) by law a Muslim country.
To come back On Topic, this is going to be a Muslim Mars mission which makes me wonder how they plan to overcome the associated extra fuel use and thus extra weight,
I mean, this thing needs to turn it's head to Mecca five times a day!
Indeed there are still many problems with Plasma 5.3.
I am typing from it right now, it works for most tasks, but so many configurations that KDE is known for and are dear to my use are either missing (QuickLaunch) or seriously buggy (various hot keys). The problems with core applications like Dolphin and Gwenview are for an official release inexcusable.
The problems with previously working nVidia versions are another regression I was not waiting for, on Plasma4 I could run the latest, now I needed to revert to version 304.
Yes we need to get on with QT5, it offers necessary tools to prepare for future developments.
I understand development is faster and easier when you have more testers but to turn all users in to involuntary testers damages the name and fame of the product.
But I don't recognise what some posters here claim, KDE (or Kubuntu) developers don't listen to or follow up on bug reports, my experience is quite different.
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Clearly you are blinded by some hate and thus can't read.
Because I suggested the UK should first fix their national policies before blaming others.
I gave an example of those working in hotels and restaurants, similar will be true in other industries.
There is no EU mandated need to accept any and all that visit your country into the HSE cover, at least not they've worked for it.
Don't come with silly excuses like a fair minimum wage for your own people is a communist-like constraint onto employers.
I mean, what possible justification is there to extend special rights to you because you are in a sexual relationship with someone else?
I thought this discussion was about marriage, why do you bring up sexual relationships?
You just confirmed what I wrote, the problem is with lacking national legislation.
Would you have fair minimum wages, collective bargaining agreements etc. there would be no competition of the sort you complain about.
I am a frequent visitor to the UK and am always surprised there are hardly any Brits working in restaurants and hotels, are they too lazy?
Compare it on a per capita base and you'll understand.
As an example look at the percentage of children growing up in poverty.
There is still wide disparity between the economic strengths of different EU member states, including those within the Eurozone. They still share a common currency but control their own taxation, government spending, and trade relations with partners outside the EU.
This is exactly why I call people idiots that claim you loose sovereignty over your national well-being when joining the common currency.
There are so many tools left for national governments to influence their economy, the Greek example is telling, they refused to balance their taxes vs. spending and are now blaming others.
This happened while Greece could borrow money for rates far below what they would have had to pay before joining the Euro.
Although the German economy is the largest of the EU countries they could never hold up the EU by themselves.
Based on GDP the UK economy is marginally smaller and depending who does the calculations ranks just before or after France, Italy ranks fourth.
Looking at GDP per capita the UK ranks 14th. with Germany 12th, a lot of the smaller economies seem to be giving better returns.
http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECin...
Once again we are seeing big bold headlines claiming massive increase in the UK’s contribution to the EU budget in 2013. We provide figures and explanations below, but first a reminder of some general points that put these figures in context: Traditionally, the UK net contributions to the EU budget are less than 1% of UK’s public spending. While all bigger and richer member states are net contributors, as a contribution per capita the UK is behind countries like Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands or Austria, Finland and Belgium. Finally, the estimated benefits of EU membership for the UK economy vastly exceed the UK’s gross budget contribution, let alone its net one. You don’t have to take our word for it – the CBI estimates the direct net economic benefits alone at between £62bn and £78bn every year http://www.cbi.org.uk/campaign...
Since when are ISO standards run by the EU?
If I remember one rather nasty example of an ISO standard being corrupted for and by for Microsoft, it went via individual nations.
One of those nations was Norway and they are not a even EU member.
http://ec.europa.eu/budget/exp...
For once you should inform yourself.
Your health services are not overloaded because of Brussels, it is because you have a lack of capable national politicians that can legally limit the number of people claiming benefits.
There is no EU rule that forces a nation to pay for visitors, of course there is a rule that makes the nations treat workers equal, a sore point for the conservatives.
Those that work can hardly be considered a drain on the system, on the contrary, they contribute to it.
http://ec.europa.eu/budget/explained/myths/myths_en.cfm
The EU budget was about €144 bn in 2013 - very small compared to the sum of the 28 EU countries' national budgets (over € 6,400 bn). Total government expenditure by the 28 EU countries is almost 50 times the EU budget! To put this into perspective, in 2013 the average EU citizen paid 283 euros a year towards the EU budget. This is less than a euro a day - hardly very expensive given the benefits that the EU brings its citizens. In fact, the EU budget is smaller than the Austrian or Belgian budgets. The EU budget stands at about 1% of the 28 EU countries' gross domestic product (GDP) – the total value of all goods and services produced in the EU. By contrast, the budgets of EU countries represent 49% of GDP on average. The EU budget is always balanced, so there is no deficit or debt. And 94% of what is paid into the EU budget is spent in the EU countries on policies and programmes that benefit citizens directly.
To expand on the last sentence, this is not money that disappears in a black hole, people get paid from it.
Denmark is more integrated with the EU than say the UK.
The Danish currency used to be tied tot the Deutschmark and is now tied to the euro, for less cost they could have given up their kroner and joined the euro.
Denmark has a strong EU sceptic party that for once is not led by an idiot but the majority of Danes has always voted for pro-EU parties.
If only to avoid Danish tax and be able to buy their beer in Flensburg.
Norway is due to it's oil a hugely wealthy country with a very unusual tax system that would be hard to integrate with normal countries.
Yet the Norwegians have so many by-lateral treaties with the EU (Schengen!) that they could become a member overnight.
But they are not allowed to vote in Brussels.
The only 'Funny' I see in this thread is that some Brits would rather see their contribution resemble that of countries like Romania and Poland.
The UK is already behind Italy...
It's more the lack of Civil Law that makes the UK a European oddity.
OK, so following this line it's also fuck the Union?
You did vote for him by fiat of your last parliamentary votes, both national and EU.
You did vote I hope?
Uhh, if I were you I'd check up on which EU members are so in favour of the treaties you mention.
The EU commission is appointed by the democratically elected governments of the member nations, that is arguably more democratic than the first past the post system the UK has!
Many EU countries form their government from people that were not elected, it's the parliament that controls the government what is elected.
Your last sentence is quite challenging coming from someone with your nickname..., who is antagonising who?
What burdens and if so, for whom?
What is by certain British politicians seen as EU burdens are by the vast majority of EU citizen seen as consumer and workers rights.
Therefore it is inconceivable to have open borders without also insisting on a more or less 'Level Playing Field.
You know, that stuff that hard core capitalists hate.
Which raises an interesting question for the Dutch.
After they sold their own national bank, privatisation and such, the Dutch government is now using the Royal Bank of Scotland as it's house bank.
Have they been tasked with, or maybe studied a Dutch exit on their own initiative?
Sorry for the late reply but it can't be denied that the first prophet of Islam was an Arab and it became the next iteration of the existing Middle Eastern Abrahamic religions.
I dare postulate that today's Islam is mainly different from it's predecessors due to great simplification and the inclusion of certain ancient beliefs from the Arabic peninsula.
After all, the holy sites of Mecca had seen worship for much longer than Christianity existed.
I see nothing wrong in my observation Islam is still heavily dominated by Arabic culture or do you feel that culture is somewhat inferior?
To cut it short, I have nothing against Islam as the religion of the Koran (Gods word) but I have serious reservations with the almost automatic inclusion of the Hadith, Sira, Salaphistic and other local customs like female circumcision or the hiding of women from public life.
I'm not so sure I can follow you.
What I meant is that I oppose the idea of writing anything more than the personal freedom of religion into law.
Anywhere.
Yes it is nice to have another Linux system available on TV's.
But more important is for how long, if at all, the manufacturer will support security and other updates.
Most important is if we can install a system of our own choice.
You keep using that word abuse of the drug.
Somewhat interesting is the joint effort between a British and Dutch university team.
As it is legal in their country the Dutch had to do the sniffing and the Brits did the detection of the resulting metabolites?
It is good science, for sure.
For forensic evidence it is really good as this cannot come from just touching some US Dollar notes, you got to at least eat and digest them.
But this will only be interesting once it can detect if a person is under the influence of the drug, merely punishing on past use has only one winner, the privatised penal institutions.
Oh? Then as an actual economist you can maybe spend a few sentences explaining why the OP is 100% wrong.
See, I can understand nothing is black or white but the suggestion that a higher income for many people benefits the local economy is not strange at all, living examples are the Scandinavian countries.
Iran is not an Arab country
So why did you bring it up?
I can see a reason, 'Arab' is generally equated with 'Muslim' and Iran is (how silly can it get) by law a Muslim country.
To come back On Topic, this is going to be a Muslim Mars mission which makes me wonder how they plan to overcome the associated extra fuel use and thus extra weight,
I mean, this thing needs to turn it's head to Mecca five times a day!
Indeed there are still many problems with Plasma 5.3.
I am typing from it right now, it works for most tasks, but so many configurations that KDE is known for and are dear to my use are either missing (QuickLaunch) or seriously buggy (various hot keys).
The problems with core applications like Dolphin and Gwenview are for an official release inexcusable.
The problems with previously working nVidia versions are another regression I was not waiting for, on Plasma4 I could run the latest, now I needed to revert to version 304.
Yes we need to get on with QT5, it offers necessary tools to prepare for future developments.
I understand development is faster and easier when you have more testers but to turn all users in to involuntary testers damages the name and fame of the product.
But I don't recognise what some posters here claim, KDE (or Kubuntu) developers don't listen to or follow up on bug reports, my experience is quite different.