Headsets and headphones aren't in your hands. Mind you the other day I saw a cyclist going down the bike path while carrying a 3x3 IKEA KALLAX. So maybe that law should be extended a bit.
Actually they are punished all the time. The problem is police rarely focus on cyclists. Other than in a pedestrian zone in the city the only time I ever see police is driving down main roads / highways. The odd time I've seen a police anywhere near a bike track they were usually fining someone on a moped driving illegally without a speed limiter or in a moped free zone.
But pretty much everyone I know in the Netherlands has gotten a fine at least once for not driving with a headlight.
That really is not a bad thing. You might want to hear what's going on around you if you are on a bike.
Depends. If you were in America or Australia or any other place where you share the road with something big, metal and dangerous then yeah, you may want to hear it creep up on you. In much of the Netherlands you can get a lot of places without actually sharing space with a motor vehicle.
Yes. Exactly. TFA is off point with it's language. Mobile phones aren't banned in cars in this way either. They are specifically targetting people *holding* mobile phones.
NL Times (The source for NPR) unfortunately aren't all that good with language with frequent spelling and grammatical issues in their articles. From the source, type this baby through google translate: https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/b...
"Artikel 61a van het Reglement Verkeersregels en Verkeerstekens 1990 (hierna: RVV 1990) wordt zodanig gewijzigd dat het voortaan voor iedereen die een oertuig bestuurt, dus ook voor fietsers, trambestuurders en bestuurders van alle gehandicaptenvoertuigen, verboden is om tijdens het rijden een mobiel elektronisch apparaat, zoals een mobiele telefoon vast te houden."
That bold part is key. You're not allowed to "hold on" to the electronic device.
MS-DOS got interesting? Clearly I missed the memo.
Then you must have been in a coma from 1984 through to 1998 given that the fundamental OS that ran all computers of that decade +/- ran this OS. Or maybe if you don't find OSes interesting in general people purposely don't send you memos.
As someone who has rolled out lone-worker / man-down alert systems before, 15 seconds is not long enough to prevent false alarms. Even with careful training, and even when a person knows they are wearing a dedicated man down device, the number of false alarms these things generate are incredibly high when not given a shitload of time for the user to respond.
Rather than worrying about police rummaging through your house looking for your weed stash while you lay unconscious on the floor, I'd be more concerned with getting fined for repeated false alarms in jurisdictions that allow for such.
If people care about security they would actually read and assess the impacts of security vulnerabilities. Other people just care about news headlines and feel good measures.
I care about security deeply so I research big stories when they hit. It is precisely that reason why I don't give a shit about Spectre or Meltdown. I'd give you my public facing IP address, but you could figure that out quite easily if you put even a token amount of effort in (hint: domain name similar to username tied to fixed IP pointed at the modem connected to this very network).
However to what end do you want my IP? Does Spectre give you some magical port forwarding abilities past a firewall? Does Meltdown magically give you an additional attack vector from outside my network? If not one would reason that you need access to my machine through some other means, and once you have that why the fuck would I worry about either Spectre and Meltdown?
Unless you think there's some mythical other attack vector that relies on some drive by malware attack, in which case post a link to your malware, I'll happily click on it to prove my point.
Nobody here is blaming the average Chinese citizen
Only the Mao government for the unfortunate position at which the last war drew the Chinese border and the number of people who happen to be within that arbitrary line.
What people are doing is blaming the Chinese government for not growing their energy output using sustainable technology.
The Chinese government accounts for half of the global investment in green energy at over $120bn. In 2017 the Chinese increased this investment by 30% over the previous year. In 2017 the USA decreased their investment by 6% over the previous year.
Per capita China is spending more that the USA on green energy and the trend is going upwards. The USA in the meantime seems dedicated to a policy of sticking their head deeper in the sand.
But hey, credit where credit is due. I'm Australian and our government is king of the stupid environmental policies https://www.theguardian.com/au...
Their recent rate of growth was not sustainable
Their recent rate of growth produces a fraction of the CO2 that their past rate of growth has. That's the thing with green energy investment. Speaking of growth and clean energy that never makes the "green" energy news: http://www.world-nuclear-news....
As I said, the USA needs to step up it's game. China is beating you, and investing heavily to beat you even further.
I think you meant to say "few". Gaming benchmarks across a very wide range of games pit (for example) the Ryzen 2700X against an i7 7700K (at a $30 premium) and an i7 8700K (at a $150 premium). On some games the i5 8600k comes into the mix too which you can get for a $20 discount if you feel like getting 25% less cores and significantly less mutlithreadding performance for your dollar (i.e. you only play the small subset of games that are only single threadded).
The only way you get a cost benefit from Intel is if you exclusively buy a chip targeted to a specific game and in those cases you can save a few dollars with a crappy 6 core chip. Otherwise "gaming" in general you'd be mad not to buy AMD right now (for the CPU anyway).
With headphones? As you blissfully bike along not listening to traffic noise?
Why is traffic noise relevant? This is the Netherlands we're talking about. I can get to pretty much any place in my city on my bicycle without ever sharing the road with a car.
That said you'd be mad to have headphones on in Amsterdam city during peak hour. The cyclists are a menace.
Lol is that all? During the Pokemon craze there were people two handed playing pokemon while cycling down the road without holding on to the handlebars. I even one day saw some guy duel wielding phones on his bicycle (though at least he was on the bikepath).
They do legally as a base case in the Netherlands. If you hit a cyclist the car is automatically at fault. You'll need to go through the courts to prove otherwise. If the cyclist / pedestrian is under 14 you can't prove otherwise, you're just at fault.
That use them for GPS/Speedometer/Odometer or the control system for any kind of E-Bike.
No it won't. Ignore the newspeak. The only thing they are banning is the holding of a device in your hand. Just like in the cars the use of mobile phones is not banned and there's one glued to every windscreen in the Netherlands all showing the telltale TomTom Go colour scheme.
We only ever hear of companies facing Class Actions. That's completely irrelevant. In the USA if you don't have a class action against you at some point you're doing something wrong.
More interesting, let's hear about class actions which actually prevail.
lmao when you put it like that, it makes Tesla sound like Heaven's Gate cult.
Well if we're going to follow his thinking then maybe we should worship Microsoft I mean they made $8.8 billion profit. You would worship them right? Just for profit figures? I mean you'd never praise the Linux kernel team with their zero profit instead right?
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Nothing farcical about it. I share my account with roommates completely unrelated to me. But since you're into social constructs my "bros" are far more of a family than my blood relatives.
But somehow it's always twisted around to be the US' fault.
When your emissions per capita start getting as low as the people you criticise then we can talk about giving the USA a pass. Until then, fuck you for being the most polluting people in the world.
It matters to a lot of people, but gamers are definitely not in that group. And game benchmarks will happily show that AMD and Intel are neck in neck for the similar spec'd CPUs. The only real difference is the AMD CPU will run you $50 cheaper.
Your logic means someone can come take whatever from whoever as long as they are bigger.
No, his logic is that that being quick and greedy is not a defense against trademark claims. The devil is in the details. If you want a legitimate claim at a trademark name then you need to show that you legitimately do something with it. Like Nissan Computers.
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Headsets and headphones aren't in your hands. Mind you the other day I saw a cyclist going down the bike path while carrying a 3x3 IKEA KALLAX. So maybe that law should be extended a bit.
Actually they are punished all the time. The problem is police rarely focus on cyclists. Other than in a pedestrian zone in the city the only time I ever see police is driving down main roads / highways. The odd time I've seen a police anywhere near a bike track they were usually fining someone on a moped driving illegally without a speed limiter or in a moped free zone.
But pretty much everyone I know in the Netherlands has gotten a fine at least once for not driving with a headlight.
That really is not a bad thing. You might want to hear what's going on around you if you are on a bike.
Depends. If you were in America or Australia or any other place where you share the road with something big, metal and dangerous then yeah, you may want to hear it creep up on you. In much of the Netherlands you can get a lot of places without actually sharing space with a motor vehicle.
I still don't recommend it though.
And while complaining about NL Times' language a superfluous apostrophe slipped into the "its". Slashdot needs some kind of a Preview function. :-)
Yes. Exactly. TFA is off point with it's language. Mobile phones aren't banned in cars in this way either. They are specifically targetting people *holding* mobile phones.
NL Times (The source for NPR) unfortunately aren't all that good with language with frequent spelling and grammatical issues in their articles. From the source, type this baby through google translate: https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/b...
"Artikel 61a van het Reglement Verkeersregels en Verkeerstekens 1990 (hierna: RVV 1990) wordt zodanig gewijzigd dat het voortaan voor iedereen die een oertuig bestuurt, dus ook voor fietsers, trambestuurders en bestuurders van alle gehandicaptenvoertuigen, verboden is om tijdens het rijden een mobiel elektronisch apparaat, zoals een mobiele telefoon vast te houden."
That bold part is key. You're not allowed to "hold on" to the electronic device.
MS-DOS got interesting? Clearly I missed the memo.
Then you must have been in a coma from 1984 through to 1998 given that the fundamental OS that ran all computers of that decade +/- ran this OS. Or maybe if you don't find OSes interesting in general people purposely don't send you memos.
You're not automatically at fault. However, in a car you will be held responsible
An English language distinction, not a legal distinction.
As someone who has rolled out lone-worker / man-down alert systems before, 15 seconds is not long enough to prevent false alarms. Even with careful training, and even when a person knows they are wearing a dedicated man down device, the number of false alarms these things generate are incredibly high when not given a shitload of time for the user to respond.
Rather than worrying about police rummaging through your house looking for your weed stash while you lay unconscious on the floor, I'd be more concerned with getting fined for repeated false alarms in jurisdictions that allow for such.
How little faith do you have in your emergency services for this to be on the list of concerns?
You can't raise everyone in your country into the lap of energy-wasting luxury and cut emissions.
No America can't. Too insistent on burning coal to generate luxury.
Only people who care about security.
If people care about security they would actually read and assess the impacts of security vulnerabilities. Other people just care about news headlines and feel good measures.
I care about security deeply so I research big stories when they hit. It is precisely that reason why I don't give a shit about Spectre or Meltdown. I'd give you my public facing IP address, but you could figure that out quite easily if you put even a token amount of effort in (hint: domain name similar to username tied to fixed IP pointed at the modem connected to this very network).
However to what end do you want my IP? Does Spectre give you some magical port forwarding abilities past a firewall? Does Meltdown magically give you an additional attack vector from outside my network? If not one would reason that you need access to my machine through some other means, and once you have that why the fuck would I worry about either Spectre and Meltdown?
Unless you think there's some mythical other attack vector that relies on some drive by malware attack, in which case post a link to your malware, I'll happily click on it to prove my point.
Nobody here is blaming the average Chinese citizen
Only the Mao government for the unfortunate position at which the last war drew the Chinese border and the number of people who happen to be within that arbitrary line.
What people are doing is blaming the Chinese government for not growing their energy output using sustainable technology.
The Chinese government accounts for half of the global investment in green energy at over $120bn.
In 2017 the Chinese increased this investment by 30% over the previous year.
In 2017 the USA decreased their investment by 6% over the previous year.
Per capita China is spending more that the USA on green energy and the trend is going upwards.
The USA in the meantime seems dedicated to a policy of sticking their head deeper in the sand.
But hey, credit where credit is due. I'm Australian and our government is king of the stupid environmental policies https://www.theguardian.com/au...
Their recent rate of growth was not sustainable
Their recent rate of growth produces a fraction of the CO2 that their past rate of growth has. That's the thing with green energy investment. Speaking of growth and clean energy that never makes the "green" energy news: http://www.world-nuclear-news....
As I said, the USA needs to step up it's game. China is beating you, and investing heavily to beat you even further.
Lots of games
I think you meant to say "few". Gaming benchmarks across a very wide range of games pit (for example) the Ryzen 2700X against an i7 7700K (at a $30 premium) and an i7 8700K (at a $150 premium). On some games the i5 8600k comes into the mix too which you can get for a $20 discount if you feel like getting 25% less cores and significantly less mutlithreadding performance for your dollar (i.e. you only play the small subset of games that are only single threadded).
The only way you get a cost benefit from Intel is if you exclusively buy a chip targeted to a specific game and in those cases you can save a few dollars with a crappy 6 core chip. Otherwise "gaming" in general you'd be mad not to buy AMD right now (for the CPU anyway).
With headphones? As you blissfully bike along not listening to traffic noise?
Why is traffic noise relevant? This is the Netherlands we're talking about. I can get to pretty much any place in my city on my bicycle without ever sharing the road with a car.
That said you'd be mad to have headphones on in Amsterdam city during peak hour. The cyclists are a menace.
Lol is that all? During the Pokemon craze there were people two handed playing pokemon while cycling down the road without holding on to the handlebars. I even one day saw some guy duel wielding phones on his bicycle (though at least he was on the bikepath).
They do legally as a base case in the Netherlands. If you hit a cyclist the car is automatically at fault. You'll need to go through the courts to prove otherwise. If the cyclist / pedestrian is under 14 you can't prove otherwise, you're just at fault.
That use them for GPS/Speedometer/Odometer or the control system for any kind of E-Bike.
No it won't. Ignore the newspeak. The only thing they are banning is the holding of a device in your hand. Just like in the cars the use of mobile phones is not banned and there's one glued to every windscreen in the Netherlands all showing the telltale TomTom Go colour scheme.
We only ever hear of companies facing Class Actions. That's completely irrelevant. In the USA if you don't have a class action against you at some point you're doing something wrong.
More interesting, let's hear about class actions which actually prevail.
I care! Ford continues to profit of the pollution of our planet. We all should care. We all should condemn them for it.
lmao when you put it like that, it makes Tesla sound like Heaven's Gate cult.
Well if we're going to follow his thinking then maybe we should worship Microsoft I mean they made $8.8 billion profit.
You would worship them right? Just for profit figures? I mean you'd never praise the Linux kernel team with their zero profit instead right?
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Nothing farcical about it. I share my account with roommates completely unrelated to me. But since you're into social constructs my "bros" are far more of a family than my blood relatives.
But somehow it's always twisted around to be the US' fault.
When your emissions per capita start getting as low as the people you criticise then we can talk about giving the USA a pass. Until then, fuck you for being the most polluting people in the world.
There are loads of far lefties here combined with trolls that will scream that China deserves to pollute.
They do not. But what they also don't deserve to do is get criticised for producing 1/3rd of the emissions per capita compared to the USA.
Physician heal thyself.
That only matters to gamers though
It matters to a lot of people, but gamers are definitely not in that group. And game benchmarks will happily show that AMD and Intel are neck in neck for the similar spec'd CPUs. The only real difference is the AMD CPU will run you $50 cheaper.
Your logic means someone can come take whatever from whoever as long as they are bigger.
No, his logic is that that being quick and greedy is not a defense against trademark claims. The devil is in the details. If you want a legitimate claim at a trademark name then you need to show that you legitimately do something with it. Like Nissan Computers.