Sleeping my laptop locks a config file and prevents me from changing monitors until I move.config,.local, and.kde directories. I have not been able to find the locked file.
This must be a problem specific to you. Every laptop I ever tried sleeping in Ubuntu including my current one is just fine after it wakes up.... after the reboot that is needed to wake it from it's deep deeeeeeep sleep.
If we want good, open, free alternatives, it helps a lot to donate to the projects.
No it doesn't. The Office monopoly relies a lot on system integration with the rest of the business world. Lync, Outlook, Active Directory, Sharepoint, other DMS providers, integration with business software. For the MS side of the ecosystem no money is going to get them to open up those APIs to you. For the 3rd party side of the ecosystem only a huge user base will get them to open up to you.
These dumbfucks seem to not understand conformity through established standards.
Oh I didn't realise there was an established standard for how journalctl should display it's output. I just tried running that command on and older unix machine and I got journalctl: command not found.
Maybe you can help me and tell me what the "established standard" should be for this program that didn't exist until a few years ago.
Maybe learning to use new programs are too hard for you. Give your computer to a 15 year old so he can setup journald to output to syslog and you can awk grep less your way through a text file the "better" way like you used to.
Why doesn't it respect the PAGER environment variable? Why do we have to use a NEW variable in the SYSTEMD namespace?
Because log file outputs especially with the additional information added by systemd are now wider than before so it makes sense not wordwrap, the same can not be said for many other uses of less.
Also because journalctl is a different program to less so why shouldn't it have its own config?
I mean... seriously? That's been the way you specify your desired pager for _decades_.
Nope. It's been the way you specify your desired pager settings under "less" for decades. Maybe journalctl isn't for you. Just set it up to dump to syslog and use less like you used to and let everyone else who is comfortable reading the manual use a different program.
You can do anything if you set your mind to it. Or if you post on a forum and get someone else to RTFM out to you.
Is brake on the left & gas on the right intrinsically better than the other way round?
Funny you mention that. No problem with moving indicators and wipers, or gear sticks from the left to right. People adjust to that within a few minutes. People also didn't have a problem back when Ford had the accelerator on the steering wheel. But then only until very recently you could find motorbikes with the throttle on the left instead of the right. And the standards for bicycles require the front / back brake to be different on left hand drive vs right hand drive countries so you can indicate your turn without slamming on the front brake and kissing pavement.
Yet everyone survives through this transition just fine. There are people that bitch about everything, such as the pedals not being cantilever from the top and instead from the bottom, or that the acceleration response is different for some cars (Tesla gets complains about this), or the different spacing between pedals, different sizes of pedals, if you actually looked into it you'll realise just how non-standard car systems are, and if you look through history you'll find many examples of people changing, altering or playing with it trying to find something "better".
Back when I used Ubuntu, I dreaded every upgrade because I knew something would konk out and force me to either reinstall or hammer the configuration until it worked.
Mine hasn't conked out since I've been using it. Hardy. Phwoar I just realised that's version 8 so I've been running it for 9 years. Even the gnome > unity or the init > upstart > systemd didn't break anything.
But then judging by the arch mailing list it sounded like the move to systemd there caused a shitload of problems with broken startup configurations.
More that Lennert never knew where the cheese was before - but yes you have a point.
That's the principle behind it. Someone moved my cheese is about your reaction to things that others do to you.
Things like his comment "what tool was used to create a username with a number?
Yeah he's a dick to users. Yeah his software has bugs. All of which has nothing to do with the fact that many of the complaints are people's inability to RTFM or to blame him for defaults which are in the domain of the distribution provider and nothing to do with him. I mean do you go and complain to GNU because the latest version of Raspberian ships by default without ls aliased to "ls --color"?
Maybe if half the people directed their venting at the people actually in control rather than just blindly bitch on slashdot it wouldn't be as bad. But they don't. Also explained by someone moved my cheese, people make irrational decisions when something happens to them which doesn't at all affect their situation.
NO, You just don't get it at all why should adding more configurability fuck with the well established defaults
Implying your retarded* well established defaults are the best way.
which zillions of lines of code
That was automatically handled via the backwards compatibility. If this change broke anything then the person shouldn't be coding let alone coding millions of lines.
and millions of dumb users totally depend
And "dumb" users are the reason we make changes and improve things rather than staying locked in some course because of... reasons.
This is something that is in the same league as casually kicking people in the shins for no reason, or spilling other people's drinks in a public bar, and you can't be surprised if it leads to a bar brawl - it is the conventional way to start one.
If that's what you think then you should seek psychiatric help. Just because someone moved your cheese doesn't mean the world is ending, and unlike any of your examples they didn't do it *to you*, they did it *for everyone else*. Learn the difference. "Change for changes sake" is equally as bad as staying the course because "It's always been like that". But as usual in cases like this, people aren't interested in reasons, they just want it the way it always was and will seek the blood of anyone, regardless if that's the programmer who specifically added backwards compatibility options so the distribution maintainers can set the defaults the way their users expect.
Having moved from Australia to northern Europe I don't think y'all lack AC is the reason. Rather it's general adjustment to climate. People don't know what to do in extraordinary situations.
There's a day above 32deg here, they close the schools and the country piles onto the beach. There's a day above 32deg in Australia people cancel outdoor activities and go inside to avoid the sun. I can't even find SPF30+ sunscreen here. In Australia Slip-Slop-Slap is something that is drummed into our heads. My European colleagues don't understand why they see pictures of me in summer in Australia wearing a long sleeved shirt while on the beach. I point out the most sunburnt people in Australia are European tourists:-)
Humans adjust, but not instantly. I'm actually beginning to realise people have a very poor survival instinct.
I counter with, "Should your kid learn to play the piano?"
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Knowing how to play the piano is not a transferable skill outside of music. It is something of personal interest.
Yet basic coding, even if it's just writing a short script is transferable to business, engineering, accounting, all fields of science and technology, and increasingly relevant to trades too. The number of people who come to me because the button on their spreadsheet is not working when it only runs 5 lines of VBA and they don't know what those lines mean or why the problem is that when they deleted a column the issue is that [A5] no longer points to the right place is incredible.
Much like basic algebra can solve a whole lot of real world problems such as figuring out what continuously consumable item is cheaper to purchase. You may not know you're doing algebra, but you're doing algebra.
Because the ever moving target of rolling releases which could change at any moment are so much better than running the command "do-release-upgrade" every 6 or so months?
This! Not only can you change it through aliases but there are also specific environmental variables that can be set so journalctl adjusts its behaviour on a per use basis. The option the people who don't RTFM are looking for is "export SYSTEMD_PAGER=less"
Journalctrl is not a grep of a dumb text file. It's job is to do whatever it was designed to do by the author.
Fortunately the author made it quite configurable. Just export SYSTEMD_PAGER=less, and journalctl will look 100% identical to your previous ways of working. Or just ignore journalctl and set it to output to syslog and it will actually be 100% identical to your previous way of working (with the addition of boot messages in the syslog).
Complaining about something more configurable that offers a complete compatibility with your own way of working looks childish.
One small thing to start: how the fuck is it not the default behaviour of journalctl to linewrap so you can actually see all the errors?
If you pipe journal control through anything like you would have done previously it defaults to linewrap. Given how much more it actually displays per line the no linewrapping is a bonus. It makes it much easier to read.
Why do some distributions default to coloring ls and others not? Why do some distributions provide a short hand for ls -l --color and others not? Why is it that people get so upset about something when the new option is more configurable than the previous options. Add "export SYSTEMD_PAGER=less" to your environments and your incredible problems of personal preference will be a thing of the past.
What makes you think that you can take the benefits of being a US citizen and not pay any taxes?
What benefits? The lovely benefit of not being able to integrate into the local environment due to your status? The uncertainty of your job due to your visa? Or the fact that everyone hates you?
I'm waiting for someone to mention something about consular assistance which I remind you wouldn't be needed at all if you were treated like a local person rather than a second class USA foreigner with all the "benefits" that brings.
We are also the only country that taxes its citizens for income earned while living and working in another country... even after they pay that country's taxes.
No you're not. But you are the only country that taxes them even if they are already paying a *higher* tax rate in the other country.
They should not have to pay US taxes on the profits they received via a cellphone sold in Europe.
It's cute that you think the tax issue is about taxes on products sold overseas. You have drank so much of the corporate coolaid that you must be on one hell of a sugar high.
Spain is roughly on the same latitude as the northern half of the US. Spain can get hot no doubt, but to think that the US doesn't or is cooler is pretty naiive or foolish.
As is comparing places by latitude. Climates are a complicated thing. If you want to truly appreciate it then you should check out Gran Canaria (technically Spanish but off the coast of Africa). The island is 40km wide and round. Depending where you are on the island it will either be 20deg and permanently cloudy or 37deg and never see a drop of rain.
Likewise the UK is more northern than Illinois, but it sure as hell doesn't have an average low temperature of -10C during the winter.
You're right of course, but for the wrong reasons.
Conversely, one can always tell if a restaurant caters to tourists: If it's open at 6 PM, it's not catering to the locals!
I was at a restaurant last week in Castellon de la Plana and went to get dinner at 9:20pm. I was told politely we are welcome to sit and have drinks but the kitchen doesn't open till 10pm.
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Sleeping my laptop locks a config file and prevents me from changing monitors until I move .config, .local, and .kde directories. I have not been able to find the locked file.
This must be a problem specific to you. Every laptop I ever tried sleeping in Ubuntu including my current one is just fine after it wakes up.... after the reboot that is needed to wake it from it's deep deeeeeeep sleep.
*sigh* I wish I had a lockfile problem.
If we want good, open, free alternatives, it helps a lot to donate to the projects.
No it doesn't. The Office monopoly relies a lot on system integration with the rest of the business world. Lync, Outlook, Active Directory, Sharepoint, other DMS providers, integration with business software. For the MS side of the ecosystem no money is going to get them to open up those APIs to you. For the 3rd party side of the ecosystem only a huge user base will get them to open up to you.
They complain about re-authentication, along with bugs and other issues.
How did you / your IT department manage to break it?
These dumbfucks seem to not understand conformity through established standards.
Oh I didn't realise there was an established standard for how journalctl should display it's output. I just tried running that command on and older unix machine and I got journalctl: command not found.
Maybe you can help me and tell me what the "established standard" should be for this program that didn't exist until a few years ago.
Maybe learning to use new programs are too hard for you. Give your computer to a 15 year old so he can setup journald to output to syslog and you can awk grep less your way through a text file the "better" way like you used to.
Why doesn't it respect the PAGER environment variable? Why do we have to use a NEW variable in the SYSTEMD namespace?
Because log file outputs especially with the additional information added by systemd are now wider than before so it makes sense not wordwrap, the same can not be said for many other uses of less.
Also because journalctl is a different program to less so why shouldn't it have its own config?
I mean... seriously? That's been the way you specify your desired pager for _decades_.
Nope. It's been the way you specify your desired pager settings under "less" for decades. Maybe journalctl isn't for you. Just set it up to dump to syslog and use less like you used to and let everyone else who is comfortable reading the manual use a different program.
You can do anything if you set your mind to it. Or if you post on a forum and get someone else to RTFM out to you.
Is brake on the left & gas on the right intrinsically better than the other way round?
Funny you mention that. No problem with moving indicators and wipers, or gear sticks from the left to right. People adjust to that within a few minutes. People also didn't have a problem back when Ford had the accelerator on the steering wheel. But then only until very recently you could find motorbikes with the throttle on the left instead of the right. And the standards for bicycles require the front / back brake to be different on left hand drive vs right hand drive countries so you can indicate your turn without slamming on the front brake and kissing pavement.
Yet everyone survives through this transition just fine. There are people that bitch about everything, such as the pedals not being cantilever from the top and instead from the bottom, or that the acceleration response is different for some cars (Tesla gets complains about this), or the different spacing between pedals, different sizes of pedals, if you actually looked into it you'll realise just how non-standard car systems are, and if you look through history you'll find many examples of people changing, altering or playing with it trying to find something "better".
Back when I used Ubuntu, I dreaded every upgrade because I knew something would konk out and force me to either reinstall or hammer the configuration until it worked.
Mine hasn't conked out since I've been using it. Hardy. Phwoar I just realised that's version 8 so I've been running it for 9 years. Even the gnome > unity or the init > upstart > systemd didn't break anything.
But then judging by the arch mailing list it sounded like the move to systemd there caused a shitload of problems with broken startup configurations.
More that Lennert never knew where the cheese was before - but yes you have a point.
That's the principle behind it. Someone moved my cheese is about your reaction to things that others do to you.
Things like his comment "what tool was used to create a username with a number?
Yeah he's a dick to users. Yeah his software has bugs. All of which has nothing to do with the fact that many of the complaints are people's inability to RTFM or to blame him for defaults which are in the domain of the distribution provider and nothing to do with him. I mean do you go and complain to GNU because the latest version of Raspberian ships by default without ls aliased to "ls --color"?
Maybe if half the people directed their venting at the people actually in control rather than just blindly bitch on slashdot it wouldn't be as bad. But they don't. Also explained by someone moved my cheese, people make irrational decisions when something happens to them which doesn't at all affect their situation.
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A term used on Slashdot to describe anyone who disagrees with you or has a differing opinion.
NO, You just don't get it at all why should adding more configurability fuck with the well established defaults
Implying your retarded* well established defaults are the best way.
which zillions of lines of code
That was automatically handled via the backwards compatibility. If this change broke anything then the person shouldn't be coding let alone coding millions of lines.
and millions of dumb users totally depend
And "dumb" users are the reason we make changes and improve things rather than staying locked in some course because of ... reasons.
This is something that is in the same league as casually kicking people in the shins for no reason, or spilling other people's drinks in a public bar, and you can't be surprised if it leads to a bar brawl - it is the conventional way to start one.
If that's what you think then you should seek psychiatric help. Just because someone moved your cheese doesn't mean the world is ending, and unlike any of your examples they didn't do it *to you*, they did it *for everyone else*. Learn the difference. "Change for changes sake" is equally as bad as staying the course because "It's always been like that". But as usual in cases like this, people aren't interested in reasons, they just want it the way it always was and will seek the blood of anyone, regardless if that's the programmer who specifically added backwards compatibility options so the distribution maintainers can set the defaults the way their users expect.
*my opinion. I hate line-wrap.
I agree. You should tell that to the package manager of your distribution.
Having moved from Australia to northern Europe I don't think y'all lack AC is the reason. Rather it's general adjustment to climate. People don't know what to do in extraordinary situations.
There's a day above 32deg here, they close the schools and the country piles onto the beach. :-)
There's a day above 32deg in Australia people cancel outdoor activities and go inside to avoid the sun.
I can't even find SPF30+ sunscreen here.
In Australia Slip-Slop-Slap is something that is drummed into our heads. My European colleagues don't understand why they see pictures of me in summer in Australia wearing a long sleeved shirt while on the beach. I point out the most sunburnt people in Australia are European tourists
Humans adjust, but not instantly. I'm actually beginning to realise people have a very poor survival instinct.
I counter with, "Should your kid learn to play the piano?"
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Knowing how to play the piano is not a transferable skill outside of music. It is something of personal interest.
Yet basic coding, even if it's just writing a short script is transferable to business, engineering, accounting, all fields of science and technology, and increasingly relevant to trades too. The number of people who come to me because the button on their spreadsheet is not working when it only runs 5 lines of VBA and they don't know what those lines mean or why the problem is that when they deleted a column the issue is that [A5] no longer points to the right place is incredible.
Much like basic algebra can solve a whole lot of real world problems such as figuring out what continuously consumable item is cheaper to purchase. You may not know you're doing algebra, but you're doing algebra.
Because the ever moving target of rolling releases which could change at any moment are so much better than running the command "do-release-upgrade" every 6 or so months?
Considering that the default behaviour for the past forty years
Oh dear, someone moved your cheese.
This! Not only can you change it through aliases but there are also specific environmental variables that can be set so journalctl adjusts its behaviour on a per use basis. The option the people who don't RTFM are looking for is "export SYSTEMD_PAGER=less"
Journalctrl is not a grep of a dumb text file. It's job is to do whatever it was designed to do by the author.
Fortunately the author made it quite configurable. Just export SYSTEMD_PAGER=less, and journalctl will look 100% identical to your previous ways of working. Or just ignore journalctl and set it to output to syslog and it will actually be 100% identical to your previous way of working (with the addition of boot messages in the syslog).
Complaining about something more configurable that offers a complete compatibility with your own way of working looks childish.
One small thing to start: how the fuck is it not the default behaviour of journalctl to linewrap so you can actually see all the errors?
If you pipe journal control through anything like you would have done previously it defaults to linewrap.
Given how much more it actually displays per line the no linewrapping is a bonus. It makes it much easier to read.
Why do some distributions default to coloring ls and others not?
Why do some distributions provide a short hand for ls -l --color and others not?
Why is it that people get so upset about something when the new option is more configurable than the previous options. Add "export SYSTEMD_PAGER=less" to your environments and your incredible problems of personal preference will be a thing of the past.
I never said free. I am just mocking your ridiculous notion that someone has a variable "rate" to determine if they get medical attention.
But it's okay I get it. American's lives are only worthwhile if you deem them to not cost to much, or that they are filthy rich.
then renounce your US citizenship and adopt a new country
Yep, because that's an over-nighter.
What makes you think that you can take the benefits of being a US citizen and not pay any taxes?
What benefits? The lovely benefit of not being able to integrate into the local environment due to your status? The uncertainty of your job due to your visa? Or the fact that everyone hates you?
I'm waiting for someone to mention something about consular assistance which I remind you wouldn't be needed at all if you were treated like a local person rather than a second class USA foreigner with all the "benefits" that brings.
We are also the only country that taxes its citizens for income earned while living and working in another country... even after they pay that country's taxes.
No you're not. But you are the only country that taxes them even if they are already paying a *higher* tax rate in the other country.
They should not have to pay US taxes on the profits they received via a cellphone sold in Europe.
It's cute that you think the tax issue is about taxes on products sold overseas. You have drank so much of the corporate coolaid that you must be on one hell of a sugar high.
Spain is roughly on the same latitude as the northern half of the US. Spain can get hot no doubt, but to think that the US doesn't or is cooler is pretty naiive or foolish.
As is comparing places by latitude. Climates are a complicated thing. If you want to truly appreciate it then you should check out Gran Canaria (technically Spanish but off the coast of Africa). The island is 40km wide and round. Depending where you are on the island it will either be 20deg and permanently cloudy or 37deg and never see a drop of rain.
Likewise the UK is more northern than Illinois, but it sure as hell doesn't have an average low temperature of -10C during the winter.
You're right of course, but for the wrong reasons.
Conversely, one can always tell if a restaurant caters to tourists: If it's open at 6 PM, it's not catering to the locals!
I was at a restaurant last week in Castellon de la Plana and went to get dinner at 9:20pm. I was told politely we are welcome to sit and have drinks but the kitchen doesn't open till 10pm.