Human eyes can't discern more than about 4000x4000 pixels in their field of vision.
Which is irrelevant because humans instinctively shift their gaze and in doing so take in far more than the individual points in their field of vision are capable of seeing in any snapshot in time.
Human eyes are actually quite shit, horrible colour definition at the edges, poor focus area, poor ability to discern dark objects in the centre. It's the processing in our brains combined with us constantly moving our eyes that makes our vision worth a damn at all.
That already exists. For instance if you don't have enough free space to install a feature update and you're running Windows 10 1709 Home / Pro then as of yesterday you've been EOL'd and aren't getting security updates even if Windows Update is running.
I thought Microsoft was just going to continue to enhance Windows 10 forever. That will certainly blow by the record set by XP.
You misunderstand. Windows 10 Home and Pro editions effectively are only serviced for 18 months before being EOL'd. At that point it is not possible to get any security updates for it.
Windows 10 1709 Home and Pro officially was EOL'd yesterday. No more security releases will be given to that version and you will be forced to install the feature if you want to receive patches for any future discovered security issues.
You ignored the most important part while focusing on the numbers. The process of upgrading will make the cost of buying a license look like a laughable rounding error.
You'll likely have more luck getting Windows 10 running on whatever is currently running windows XP, than you have getting Linux 5.1 running on what was on 0.01. The specialism required to upgrade a Windows XP system to a Windows 10 system is nothing compared to finding someone who has the expertise to know how that 0.01 system even runs. Though to be fair it's a silly assumption anyway since Windows XP was only EOL'd in 2014 so you're only looking for 5 years of expertise and would be comparing 5.16 to a 2.4.x series kernel which from there to a 5.1 kernel is actually a big technical jump.
But even the ability to get the software running at all is nothing compared to the testing your specialist application needs to go through on the new version of either system. You do have a specialist application right? I mean you're not using a Windows XP machine or a Linux 2.4 machine as your home desktop on the internet are you?
Either way I'm willing to offer you a 100% free Windows upgrade license when you employ my services to help you actually go through the migration, seeing how the license seems to be your only concern. This will work out well for me since I see a sucker who doesn't understand upgrade processes that I can take to the cleaners.
MS gives a big FU to anyone who foolishly built a system on their OS. Let that be a lesson.
Lesson learnt. 19 years of support for their software, clearly the absolute best in the OS industry. I can't find a Linux, BSD, Apple, or any other OS that still has that original version supported.
No but less free is adding middlement to a process.
Using tax revenue to undercut an entire industry that creates jobs doesn't really sit well.
In pretty much all western countries filing taxes is free, the local tax department provides software and information to do so, and yet the industry hasn't actually disappeared. Quite the opposite actually, the industry itself ended up self regulating to not screw the consumers, after all they need to show their worth if they are going to get a return for you.
There is no free, everyone is paying for it.
Yeah, once. But with adding a middleman who doesn't already have the required information to give it to someone else, we get to pay for it twice. That's twice as goodly right?
The job of the IRS is to collect taxes, not prepare them.
You're a special brand of ignorant if you don't believe that the IRS doesn't already have all the information submitted to them to prepare your taxes for you, and that this process is automated in the back end.
Now if you could show it actually saves the government money
Why the government? Why focus on the government saving money in a discussion about eliminating a potentially pointless middle man?
This! I'm shocked to hear that in the USA you can't do this online. Doing my taxes takes me approximately 5 minutes, and 4 of those minutes are trying to remember the login to the tax department website. When I log in I get a list of my declarations and a tax return summary. At the bottom is a button that allows me to agree (and then I'm done), or to file myself, and even when pressing the latter because I have a very tiny business that I run, the form remains pre-filled and I still only need to enter like one or two details.
It is American pride to be free. The Land of the Free. Land of opportunity. A land built on distrust of the government with limited government actions. It's a land that very much lead the way in exploitation of workers and resources. That is AMERICAN! Drill baby drill, but only if you're doing so while burning American coal.
Elon is the antithesis of that vision. It's a company that is built on the opportunity and expectation that competitors cannot continue due to their "freedoms" being reigned in through regulation. It is through the use of government granted levers on the economy that Elon's companies have built upon that some mentally handicapped people now consider Elon the enemy and not the embodiment of America.
No. I will not buy it. I will never buy it. It is a fucking font. It is not worth billions of dollars.
Agreed. It's not worth billions. It's worth $35 which is what you can have it for. Or do you say that in general you don't think creative arts are worth paying for? In which case I wish you from the bottom of my heart a "fuck you".
Simple, because unlike you most people don't subscribe to observer bias. Or do you think all those windows devices would show Linux errors? I certainly have seen Linux devices show error screens on a variety of public screens. The most recent of which was the in-flight entertainment system on our Lufthansa flight crashing.
If you think Linux is somehow immune to boot partition corruption (what happened here judging by the sign) then I have a very expensive bespoke system to sell you.
There's nothing weak about Q1 delivery numbers other than people (typically accountants) who stare at the current number and don't look at it in relation to anything which has recently happened... such as a concerted effort to boost Q4 deliveries on account of the end of the tax breaks.
Now if you remove the distortion that occured due to an arbitrary external factor (say by looking at combined Q1/4 and combined Q2/3 you continue to see a normal and stead upwards trend.
You need a market to be distorted, for your own sake. Free Market is a term that is completely misunderstood. People think it means "Perfect Market". It doesn't. A market is only a perfect market with complete regulation. Free Markets have only a single stable point: Complete monopoly with the consumer getting screwed.
The point is 8x+8x is still impossible to achieve if you have even ONE nVME SSD.
Err x8+x8 + dedicated x4 for NVMe is the main selling point of Ryzen.
I need 8x+8x, hell even 8x+4x would be fine, provided both my SSDs get 4x CPU lanes each.
There's desktop motherboards that provide what you want. Asus's DIMM.2 system uses PCIe lanes from the memory leaving the GPU free for 2x x4 lanes to M.2 slots, and many motherboards on the market have PLX chips that switch idle PCIe lanes between slots allowing you to put 2 or even 4 M.2 slots at full speed on a motherboard with x8+x8 graphics at the same time.
Your requirement doesn't seem to include transferring at 12GB/s while maintaining full speed through the GPUs.
Back in 2017 when I bought the CPU and motherboard, they set me back around $700 (both), in my country, which means USA prices would have been at least 25% lower, say around $550 for both. I got 6 cores, 12 threads, 4.25 GHz frequency and 28 PCI Express lanes. All good and dandy. Fast-forward to today, this kind of deal doesn't exist any more.
You have an odd set of requirements that isn't marketed at the desktop by the CPU manufacturers anymore precisely because PCIe idle lane switching is a thing now. It's also a very specific use case (preferencing PCI Express lanes over CPU cores) that is typically handled by server motherboards. Consider yourself lucky that you bought that development quirk.
But really... you actually expect to upgrade hardware in 2 years? This isn't 1995 anymore. If I bought a PC back in 2017 and spent *half* as much as you did I would expect to not even be looking at hardware articles let alone consider buying something until at least 2022. So I am right there with you, now is *not* the time for you to upgrade.... Unless you desperately want to annihilate money, in which case send it my way and I'll spend it on hookers:-)
I feel kind of weird trying to impart knowledge to you
I'm sure you did, but that "knowledge" just left your body through your ankle to try and spare us all the pain. It wasn't me biting you. But okay I'll bite now:
But why do you imagine there ever was a "safe to remove" mechanism, if not to avoid removing in mid-update?
You do realise that the safe to remove mechanism actually didn't work if you were mid-transfer right? The feature existed to flush caches and mark the file system as clean and would fail if you were stupid enough to try and use it while actively accessing the disc. Mind you no one was actually stupid enough to try and remove something mid copy which is why it wasn't at all designed for the use case you're talking about.
It was *never* and is not now about atomic commits on a file system.
It's a simple fact that if you want a rock solid system that you shouldn't be bothering with any version of Windows.
Given the sign is showing evidence of system corruption following a restart I have to ask what magical fairy software you recommend people use for a 100% unimportant sign that only displays blinking lights?
I think people will be fine with not getting their "Good Morning London" message displayed in the sky today.
This probably existed, and it quite probably was the very realistic assessment: Screw it, not worth the callout, it's a sign and therefore can wait until monday.
Still, if I was one of the developers writing the sign software
What developers? Their software didn't even get to run. As you can see from the error message itself all this sign does is take a video input and display it.
As a developer, do you routinely spend lots of time on features no one asked for, no one is paying you for, and isn't part of the larger engineering design?
10x x16 lanes + 2x x1 lanes used exclusively for the management interface (one for each chip) so that the x16 interfaces don't need to be robbed of a lane. That may not seem relevant until you realise there are no PCIe x15, PCIe x7 or PCIe x3 devices out there.
The difference between having 2 extra PCIe lanes is that the SCH gets a dedicated lane to each chip. What this means in practice is that the otherwise group divisible by 16 which is split down into 2x8 or 4x4 lanes now suddenly has the bandwidth to support 2 additional full speed NVMe drives (2 x x4 lanes as required for NVMe) instead of giving you a 2x x3 interface (which for NVMe would only run at x2 for compatibility reasons) and splitting 2x x1 lanes off for system management.
Even if they were 2x Titan X GPUs the difference between running 8x/8x and 16x/16x is a rounding error at best on all but a very peculiar and very specific set of circumstances even on incredibly graphic intense games.
The NVMe case is far more compelling, not that I see a reason to have that many high speed devices for anything other than posting brag numbers. If there was a real reason you'd likely be running an EPYC or Threadripper.
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So what you're saying is that I win if I carry 3 passengers, or flying personal cars lose if they don't carry 150?
I am going to make a prediction here... I think you can guess which way the study will go based on your own assertion.
Human eyes can't discern more than about 4000x4000 pixels in their field of vision.
Which is irrelevant because humans instinctively shift their gaze and in doing so take in far more than the individual points in their field of vision are capable of seeing in any snapshot in time.
Human eyes are actually quite shit, horrible colour definition at the edges, poor focus area, poor ability to discern dark objects in the centre. It's the processing in our brains combined with us constantly moving our eyes that makes our vision worth a damn at all.
That already exists. For instance if you don't have enough free space to install a feature update and you're running Windows 10 1709 Home / Pro then as of yesterday you've been EOL'd and aren't getting security updates even if Windows Update is running.
I thought Microsoft was just going to continue to enhance Windows 10 forever. That will certainly blow by the record set by XP.
You misunderstand. Windows 10 Home and Pro editions effectively are only serviced for 18 months before being EOL'd. At that point it is not possible to get any security updates for it.
Windows 10 1709 Home and Pro officially was EOL'd yesterday. No more security releases will be given to that version and you will be forced to install the feature if you want to receive patches for any future discovered security issues.
You ignored the most important part while focusing on the numbers. The process of upgrading will make the cost of buying a license look like a laughable rounding error.
You'll likely have more luck getting Windows 10 running on whatever is currently running windows XP, than you have getting Linux 5.1 running on what was on 0.01. The specialism required to upgrade a Windows XP system to a Windows 10 system is nothing compared to finding someone who has the expertise to know how that 0.01 system even runs. Though to be fair it's a silly assumption anyway since Windows XP was only EOL'd in 2014 so you're only looking for 5 years of expertise and would be comparing 5.16 to a 2.4.x series kernel which from there to a 5.1 kernel is actually a big technical jump.
But even the ability to get the software running at all is nothing compared to the testing your specialist application needs to go through on the new version of either system. You do have a specialist application right? I mean you're not using a Windows XP machine or a Linux 2.4 machine as your home desktop on the internet are you?
Either way I'm willing to offer you a 100% free Windows upgrade license when you employ my services to help you actually go through the migration, seeing how the license seems to be your only concern. This will work out well for me since I see a sucker who doesn't understand upgrade processes that I can take to the cleaners.
MS gives a big FU to anyone who foolishly built a system on their OS. Let that be a lesson.
Lesson learnt. 19 years of support for their software, clearly the absolute best in the OS industry. I can't find a Linux, BSD, Apple, or any other OS that still has that original version supported.
Nothing is free.
No but less free is adding middlement to a process.
Using tax revenue to undercut an entire industry that creates jobs doesn't really sit well.
In pretty much all western countries filing taxes is free, the local tax department provides software and information to do so, and yet the industry hasn't actually disappeared. Quite the opposite actually, the industry itself ended up self regulating to not screw the consumers, after all they need to show their worth if they are going to get a return for you.
There is no free, everyone is paying for it.
Yeah, once. But with adding a middleman who doesn't already have the required information to give it to someone else, we get to pay for it twice. That's twice as goodly right?
The job of the IRS is to collect taxes, not prepare them.
You're a special brand of ignorant if you don't believe that the IRS doesn't already have all the information submitted to them to prepare your taxes for you, and that this process is automated in the back end.
Now if you could show it actually saves the government money
Why the government? Why focus on the government saving money in a discussion about eliminating a potentially pointless middle man?
This! I'm shocked to hear that in the USA you can't do this online. Doing my taxes takes me approximately 5 minutes, and 4 of those minutes are trying to remember the login to the tax department website.
When I log in I get a list of my declarations and a tax return summary. At the bottom is a button that allows me to agree (and then I'm done), or to file myself, and even when pressing the latter because I have a very tiny business that I run, the form remains pre-filled and I still only need to enter like one or two details.
WTF is wrong in America?
It is American pride to be free. The Land of the Free. Land of opportunity. A land built on distrust of the government with limited government actions. It's a land that very much lead the way in exploitation of workers and resources. That is AMERICAN! Drill baby drill, but only if you're doing so while burning American coal.
Elon is the antithesis of that vision. It's a company that is built on the opportunity and expectation that competitors cannot continue due to their "freedoms" being reigned in through regulation. It is through the use of government granted levers on the economy that Elon's companies have built upon that some mentally handicapped people now consider Elon the enemy and not the embodiment of America.
An ideal font in my view is one that essentially gets out of the way and lets your brain focus on the actual content
Sounds like you have a use case that relies on conveying textual information. That is only a small subset of use cases for fonts.
No. I will not buy it. I will never buy it. It is a fucking font. It is not worth billions of dollars.
Agreed. It's not worth billions. It's worth $35 which is what you can have it for. Or do you say that in general you don't think creative arts are worth paying for? In which case I wish you from the bottom of my heart a "fuck you".
Simple, because unlike you most people don't subscribe to observer bias. Or do you think all those windows devices would show Linux errors? I certainly have seen Linux devices show error screens on a variety of public screens. The most recent of which was the in-flight entertainment system on our Lufthansa flight crashing.
If you think Linux is somehow immune to boot partition corruption (what happened here judging by the sign) then I have a very expensive bespoke system to sell you.
The picture literally says "Windows Boot" at the top. The BIOS's job is long done.
given the incredibly weak Q1 delivery numbers
There's nothing weak about Q1 delivery numbers other than people (typically accountants) who stare at the current number and don't look at it in relation to anything which has recently happened ... such as a concerted effort to boost Q4 deliveries on account of the end of the tax breaks.
Now if you remove the distortion that occured due to an arbitrary external factor (say by looking at combined Q1/4 and combined Q2/3 you continue to see a normal and stead upwards trend.
The market remains distorted.
You need a market to be distorted, for your own sake. Free Market is a term that is completely misunderstood. People think it means "Perfect Market". It doesn't. A market is only a perfect market with complete regulation. Free Markets have only a single stable point: Complete monopoly with the consumer getting screwed.
The point is 8x+8x is still impossible to achieve if you have even ONE nVME SSD.
Err x8+x8 + dedicated x4 for NVMe is the main selling point of Ryzen.
I need 8x+8x, hell even 8x+4x would be fine, provided both my SSDs get 4x CPU lanes each.
There's desktop motherboards that provide what you want. Asus's DIMM.2 system uses PCIe lanes from the memory leaving the GPU free for 2x x4 lanes to M.2 slots, and many motherboards on the market have PLX chips that switch idle PCIe lanes between slots allowing you to put 2 or even 4 M.2 slots at full speed on a motherboard with x8+x8 graphics at the same time.
Your requirement doesn't seem to include transferring at 12GB/s while maintaining full speed through the GPUs.
Back in 2017 when I bought the CPU and motherboard, they set me back around $700 (both), in my country, which means USA prices would have been at least 25% lower, say around $550 for both. I got 6 cores, 12 threads, 4.25 GHz frequency and 28 PCI Express lanes. All good and dandy. Fast-forward to today, this kind of deal doesn't exist any more.
You have an odd set of requirements that isn't marketed at the desktop by the CPU manufacturers anymore precisely because PCIe idle lane switching is a thing now. It's also a very specific use case (preferencing PCI Express lanes over CPU cores) that is typically handled by server motherboards. Consider yourself lucky that you bought that development quirk.
But really ... you actually expect to upgrade hardware in 2 years? This isn't 1995 anymore. If I bought a PC back in 2017 and spent *half* as much as you did I would expect to not even be looking at hardware articles let alone consider buying something until at least 2022. So I am right there with you, now is *not* the time for you to upgrade.... Unless you desperately want to annihilate money, in which case send it my way and I'll spend it on hookers :-)
I feel kind of weird trying to impart knowledge to you
I'm sure you did, but that "knowledge" just left your body through your ankle to try and spare us all the pain. It wasn't me biting you. But okay I'll bite now:
But why do you imagine there ever was a "safe to remove" mechanism, if not to avoid removing in mid-update?
You do realise that the safe to remove mechanism actually didn't work if you were mid-transfer right? The feature existed to flush caches and mark the file system as clean and would fail if you were stupid enough to try and use it while actively accessing the disc. Mind you no one was actually stupid enough to try and remove something mid copy which is why it wasn't at all designed for the use case you're talking about.
It was *never* and is not now about atomic commits on a file system.
It's a simple fact that if you want a rock solid system that you shouldn't be bothering with any version of Windows.
Given the sign is showing evidence of system corruption following a restart I have to ask what magical fairy software you recommend people use for a 100% unimportant sign that only displays blinking lights?
I think people will be fine with not getting their "Good Morning London" message displayed in the sky today.
This probably existed, and it quite probably was the very realistic assessment: Screw it, not worth the callout, it's a sign and therefore can wait until monday.
Still, if I was one of the developers writing the sign software
What developers? Their software didn't even get to run. As you can see from the error message itself all this sign does is take a video input and display it.
As a developer, do you routinely spend lots of time on features no one asked for, no one is paying you for, and isn't part of the larger engineering design?
Why? Other than a bit of embarrassment, what major negative impact has result from this incident which would necessitate continuous monitoring?
10x x16 lanes + 2x x1 lanes used exclusively for the management interface (one for each chip) so that the x16 interfaces don't need to be robbed of a lane. That may not seem relevant until you realise there are no PCIe x15, PCIe x7 or PCIe x3 devices out there.
Or maybe *you* are understanding it wrong.
The difference between having 2 extra PCIe lanes is that the SCH gets a dedicated lane to each chip. What this means in practice is that the otherwise group divisible by 16 which is split down into 2x8 or 4x4 lanes now suddenly has the bandwidth to support 2 additional full speed NVMe drives (2 x x4 lanes as required for NVMe) instead of giving you a 2x x3 interface (which for NVMe would only run at x2 for compatibility reasons) and splitting 2x x1 lanes off for system management.
I have 2x GPUs in SLI.
Even if they were 2x Titan X GPUs the difference between running 8x/8x and 16x/16x is a rounding error at best on all but a very peculiar and very specific set of circumstances even on incredibly graphic intense games.
The NVMe case is far more compelling, not that I see a reason to have that many high speed devices for anything other than posting brag numbers. If there was a real reason you'd likely be running an EPYC or Threadripper.
It's not a choice at all. 2010s evil has done wonders for advancing the industry. The 1990s evil actively held the world back.