Because Microsoft can't code a browser engine to save themselves, so by piggybacking off the work of others they cut costs and mask incompetence at the same time.
That's true but I think a lot of people don't switch because there is a ton of commercial software that is available on Windows but not Linux and many of us need some of this software for work.
Cool, that explains 600million devices. So why doesn't Linux have a 20% market share on the desktop then?
You just never stop with the irrelevant bullshit do you. Literally no one here is talking about removing a device mid transfer other than you. I've told you before, replying off topic about things that no one is discussing is a sign of a severe mental condition.
Indeed since Windows 95 that wasn't the case. Since Windows XP on the other hand it was. You're complaining about something that was fixed 18 years ago, which incidentally is how long this option that for some reason is incorrectly shown in the 1809 changelog has actually existed. And no they weren't fixing a regression, the default is the same on 1803.
Finally this annoying stupid misfeature will go away.
This hasn't existed since 2001, the story is wrong. I am willing to bet you're not actually annoyed by this, or that you just use the remove hardware button because monkey see monkey do rather than actually understanding why you haven't needed to do it for 18 years.
But MS has decided that I have to set things for each port separately. Why?
The USB standard specifically enumerates the same device on different ports differently. This is nothing to do with Windows. Plugging any device in any port on any OS will see it as a "new" device if never seen on that port before.
The only exception is when a drive is not the system drive
There's more exceptions than just this. It's actually in control of the developer. There's a variety of ACPI related settings or drivers that can set the removal policy to "ExpectOrderlyRemoval" from the default "ExpectSurpriseRemoval".
They will eventually far overtake traditional battery cars.
Based on what? The SuperKendall decree?
Incorrect because you can easily convert gas stations, and "recharge" time is minutes like gas today.
No you can't. Safe handling of hydrogen is orders of magnitude different from petrol stations. It would be easier to build entirely new stations than attempt to convert petrol stations for this purpose.
VASTLY more difficult is putting in the infrastructure required to support ALL cars being electric.
What infrastructure? My electric car has never been attached to any infrastructure that isn't available at every single house in the country.
That is why the future is inevitably hydrogen
Because you don't understand infrastructure, EVs, or Hydrogen as demonstrated? Not a good argument man, not a good argument at all.
With a much faster recharge time they are way more convenient than an EV
I don't understand. Why do you need to charge quickly? Are you proposing people go to some kind of a station and actually get out and put something in their vehicles like we did in the bad old days of petrol? Why not just get a car that's always 100% good to go.
Wait... You're doing long trips right? Are you suggesting you do a 3+ hour trip without taking at least a 20min break for the safety of the driver? You reckless git, why would you put your family and the families of others in danger like that. Just down a bottle of vodka before you get in the car why don't you.
The default policy for USB devices has been to disable write caching and set the "Quick Removal" policy since the days of Windows XP. MS even published a lengthy document about it in 2001 describing how drivers would need to override this behaviour.
This has remained the default policy through Windows XP's various service packs, Windows Vista, Windows 7, and I figured maybe they introduced a regression at some point recently so I decided to plug a whole lot of devices into my vanilla Windows 10 pro 1803 machine. All USB devices be they USB2.0 memory sticks, USB 3.0 HDDs, or USB3.2 external SSDs were set to "Quick Removal" with write caching disabled as the default option.
Someone at MS doesn't understand how their own OS works anymore.
MS can think what it likes. It clearly doesn't know it's own system. I still have an 1803 system here as well as Windows 7 and Windows XPs in VMs, and if I put any USB stick they come up with Quick Removal set as the default policy.
This was something introduced in Windows XP. Here you go, from the Windows platform design notes in 2001:
Operating System Write-Caching Policy for Storage Devices Because of the possibility of data loss or corruption when storage devices are surprise-removed, removable storage devices are an important area for improving surprise removal support. To mitigate the likelihood of data loss in these scenarios, Windows XP has a refined write-caching policy for removable storage. In Windows XP, write-caching is disabled by default for consumer-oriented removable storage for which the operating system expects surprise removal, such as USB, Flash, Zip, and so on. This makes the devices safer for surprise removal.
And then it proceeds to provide 5 pages of documentation on how to override this default behaviour. But hey maybe MS introduced a regression, so let me check since I still run 1803:
"Kingston Datatraveler USB Device Properties
Removal Policy Quick Removal (Default)"
Okay so that's checked. Ahhh but that's just a shitty USB stick. Let's check a high performance device:
"HGST Touro Mobile Pro Device Properties
Removal Policy Quick Removal (Default)"
Nope, just MS not having a clue about their own system.
If your data is valuable, why are you even using Windows?
Because with magic Onedrive integration my entire computer can melt into a puddle on the ground and be locked up by randsomware and yet all my data is still safe and I don't even need to use any of those complicated techie things that the nerds tried to explain to me.... I think they used a word "backup". Sounds like something people did in the past before the clouds came over.
Now maybe you should back up and take a good look at the absurd and stupid arguments you're making given the critical wealth and knowledge of the human race happily resides on Windows platforms without any issue what so ever.
Updates just are, they take a short time and are done. Most users don't give a shit. It's mildly annoying on a rare occasion but for the desktop computer at home where you have a choice there's always the opportunity for an update to magically apply without ever bugging you. Linux is far more invasive in that regard.
Cost? Windows doesn't cost anything. It's free. It just magically is there on every computer I have. Buy one from the HP website, I have magic windows. Buy a computer from Bestbuy, magic windows. It's as free as Mac which also magically shows up on Mac. Why should I change from one "free" system to another system just because it's actually free, and after I've already paid for my first "free" system? Users don't care about a cost they don't directly see.
Malware? How does Linux stop me from having my Facebook account password leaked? I mean sure I get plenty of viruses sent my way, I can find them in my gmail inbox but for some reason I can't open them or download them. Even so you're entire argument boils down to "no one uses this so we're not a target, please come join us and make us a target".
Your arguments are complete nonsense in the eyes of the people you don't understand. So let me answer your title question: Why do people not abandon an OS in favour of another? Because they don't care!.
Sidenote: You don't reboot your computer? Do you not like security? I get it Linux never needs rebooting. ***fires up putty**** Authenticating with public key "rsa-key-20150627" Welcome to Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64)
*** System restart required *** No mail. Last login: Sun Apr 7 21:59:21 2019 from 192.168.2.109 ~# uptime
09:01:36 up 7 days, 11:47, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.26, 0.63
Well shit looks like a security update came through this week and I need to reboot my magical Linux computer.
No it's not. You're a university (lecturer / tutor / something) that straight away makes your use case truly bizarre.
Software to prepare taxes?, Skype for Business? Office? iTunes (hell most iPhone people I know don't bother with that anymore)?
If that were the requirement then there's no reason Linux wouldn't have a good 20% of the market share. This office think you speak of is just a slow version of Google Docs. Acrobat? What's that? I click on a PDF on any system and it opens and lets me fill out forms. I don't know what software opens it, but the only place I see Acrobat is on my Android phone. Windows > Edge, Linux > Okular (I had to actually open a PDF right now to know what the software was even called).
The sad reality is that consumers really don't give a shit these days. They used to. Software played a big role in the past, but in the days where the most popular email client is the browser, the most popular document editor is the browser, the most popular spreadsheet tool is the browser, the most popular pdf viewer is the browser, those days have passed.
What's holding up Linux is that Windows just is a default, synonymous to computing as the computer itself. Go to HP's website, buy a computer. Windows is on it. If you dig around you may get a choice, but chances are you won't. Go to best buy, all the (non mac/chromebooks) computers are showing Windows. Take it home and Windows boots up.
For many office users, Outlook and Excel are the reason.
FTFY. Outlook? What's that? Some fancy interface into gmail? Excel? Is that like a slow version of Google Sheet? How do I get Excel on my iPad? Why does it work differently there than on my Chromebook?
The Office excuse is tired. If Office were the driver Linux would easily have some 20% market share. A significant number of users don't care about MS Office, or productivity apps in general, and I use "app" here because that's what computing has boiled down to. "Software" no longer matters.
Likewise, 3 monitor setup? Somehow I don't think that's a normal use case. The only thing which needs to work sound wise on a common desktop is that audio switches from speakers to headphones, assuming the speakers themselves don't have a headphone socket. And Pulseaudio for all the slashdot rage that induces got that working years ago.
On the other hand Windows OEM licenses coming with every PC combined with users who frankly don't give a crap what OS they are using has a much bigger impact.
Gave windows 10 away? How about users being forced to buy Windows licenses at checkout without price impact? Windows dominance didn't come from the Windows 10 freebie. It came from OEM distribution.
But it's basic issue with toppling Windows dominance over the desktop is Apps. Plain and simple.
No. Toppling Windows dominance is default installs. Users don't give a shit. Period. Much of the computer has been reduced these days to firing up a browser and using Google. If Apps were the only thing holding Linux back there would be no reason Linux doesn't have say 10-20% of the market share. The reality is a good chunk of computers aren't used for "big name corps" software.
I do. The reality is that people don't care. They will use what they are given providing it works. And despite what Slashdot users typically think of Windows, it actually works. Minor frustrations aren't motivation to throw everything out and start again./Posted from a completely irrelevant OS since a browser is available on all of them.
You see it's crap like that that gives Linux a bad name. No it's not 85% as good. It's barely 20% as good. It gives you a nice OS wonderfully out of date with a complicated system to store resident files while at the same time being painfully slow.
Running Linux from a USB stick has it's place but claiming it's 85% of anything even remotely resembling a desktop workspace just serves to reinforce the idea that opensource zealots are just pushing an agenda rather than actually presenting a serious product.
You'll find that "Could x be the next y" is the type of shit that editors come up with when they rewrite user submitted stories for more clickbait.
As for how specific the numbers are 5 x 16 per chip + speculation from articles on the server control hub that each chip will get a lane dedicated to it rather than having split up one of the group of 16. Even as speculation that makes perfect sense.
Doesn't need to. It's high time we remember driving is a privilege and not a right. Maybe if cars were less likely to start people would learn that and feel less like entitled gits when they get out on the road.
After we solve that I'm keen to hear how we can fix Slashdot Armchair engineers who seem to know more about products that the people actually developing them. Or maybe you're actually working for the company. Has your local media group released you to share this confidential information? I mean random aromas, NO ONE would ever have thought about THAT.
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Why? If you're using Edge I guess you have access to the Microsoft Store. Why not just download the Netflix app?
...and how this will not?
Because Microsoft can't code a browser engine to save themselves, so by piggybacking off the work of others they cut costs and mask incompetence at the same time.
No, he said 85% as good. Not 20%.
Your English comprehension is 0% good.
That's true but I think a lot of people don't switch because there is a ton of commercial software that is available on Windows but not Linux and many of us need some of this software for work.
Cool, that explains 600million devices. So why doesn't Linux have a 20% market share on the desktop then?
You just never stop with the irrelevant bullshit do you. Literally no one here is talking about removing a device mid transfer other than you. I've told you before, replying off topic about things that no one is discussing is a sign of a severe mental condition.
Get professional help.
Indeed since Windows 95 that wasn't the case. Since Windows XP on the other hand it was. You're complaining about something that was fixed 18 years ago, which incidentally is how long this option that for some reason is incorrectly shown in the 1809 changelog has actually existed. And no they weren't fixing a regression, the default is the same on 1803.
Finally this annoying stupid misfeature will go away.
This hasn't existed since 2001, the story is wrong. I am willing to bet you're not actually annoyed by this, or that you just use the remove hardware button because monkey see monkey do rather than actually understanding why you haven't needed to do it for 18 years.
But MS has decided that I have to set things for each port separately. Why?
The USB standard specifically enumerates the same device on different ports differently. This is nothing to do with Windows. Plugging any device in any port on any OS will see it as a "new" device if never seen on that port before.
The only exception is when a drive is not the system drive
There's more exceptions than just this. It's actually in control of the developer. There's a variety of ACPI related settings or drivers that can set the removal policy to "ExpectOrderlyRemoval" from the default "ExpectSurpriseRemoval".
But I've yet to see a device do this.
They will eventually far overtake traditional battery cars.
Based on what? The SuperKendall decree?
Incorrect because you can easily convert gas stations, and "recharge" time is minutes like gas today.
No you can't. Safe handling of hydrogen is orders of magnitude different from petrol stations. It would be easier to build entirely new stations than attempt to convert petrol stations for this purpose.
VASTLY more difficult is putting in the infrastructure required to support ALL cars being electric.
What infrastructure? My electric car has never been attached to any infrastructure that isn't available at every single house in the country.
That is why the future is inevitably hydrogen
Because you don't understand infrastructure, EVs, or Hydrogen as demonstrated? Not a good argument man, not a good argument at all.
With a much faster recharge time they are way more convenient than an EV
I don't understand. Why do you need to charge quickly? Are you proposing people go to some kind of a station and actually get out and put something in their vehicles like we did in the bad old days of petrol? Why not just get a car that's always 100% good to go.
Wait ... You're doing long trips right? Are you suggesting you do a 3+ hour trip without taking at least a 20min break for the safety of the driver? You reckless git, why would you put your family and the families of others in danger like that. Just down a bottle of vodka before you get in the car why don't you.
The default policy for USB devices has been to disable write caching and set the "Quick Removal" policy since the days of Windows XP. MS even published a lengthy document about it in 2001 describing how drivers would need to override this behaviour.
This has remained the default policy through Windows XP's various service packs, Windows Vista, Windows 7, and I figured maybe they introduced a regression at some point recently so I decided to plug a whole lot of devices into my vanilla Windows 10 pro 1803 machine. All USB devices be they USB2.0 memory sticks, USB 3.0 HDDs, or USB3.2 external SSDs were set to "Quick Removal" with write caching disabled as the default option.
Someone at MS doesn't understand how their own OS works anymore.
So MS at least thinks you are wrong.
MS can think what it likes. It clearly doesn't know it's own system. I still have an 1803 system here as well as Windows 7 and Windows XPs in VMs, and if I put any USB stick they come up with Quick Removal set as the default policy.
This was something introduced in Windows XP. Here you go, from the Windows platform design notes in 2001:
Operating System Write-Caching Policy for Storage Devices
Because of the possibility of data loss or corruption when storage devices are surprise-removed, removable storage devices are an important area for improving surprise removal support. To mitigate the likelihood of data loss in these scenarios, Windows XP has a refined write-caching policy for removable storage. In Windows XP, write-caching is disabled by default for consumer-oriented removable storage for which the operating system expects surprise removal, such as USB, Flash, Zip, and so on. This makes the devices safer for surprise removal.
And then it proceeds to provide 5 pages of documentation on how to override this default behaviour. But hey maybe MS introduced a regression, so let me check since I still run 1803:
"Kingston Datatraveler USB Device Properties
Removal Policy
Quick Removal (Default)"
Okay so that's checked. Ahhh but that's just a shitty USB stick. Let's check a high performance device:
"HGST Touro Mobile Pro Device Properties
Removal Policy
Quick Removal (Default)"
Nope, just MS not having a clue about their own system.
If your data is valuable, why are you even using Windows?
Because with magic Onedrive integration my entire computer can melt into a puddle on the ground and be locked up by randsomware and yet all my data is still safe and I don't even need to use any of those complicated techie things that the nerds tried to explain to me. ... I think they used a word "backup". Sounds like something people did in the past before the clouds came over.
Now maybe you should back up and take a good look at the absurd and stupid arguments you're making given the critical wealth and knowledge of the human race happily resides on Windows platforms without any issue what so ever.
What are you talking about? No one cares.
Updates just are, they take a short time and are done. Most users don't give a shit. It's mildly annoying on a rare occasion but for the desktop computer at home where you have a choice there's always the opportunity for an update to magically apply without ever bugging you. Linux is far more invasive in that regard.
Cost? Windows doesn't cost anything. It's free. It just magically is there on every computer I have. Buy one from the HP website, I have magic windows. Buy a computer from Bestbuy, magic windows. It's as free as Mac which also magically shows up on Mac. Why should I change from one "free" system to another system just because it's actually free, and after I've already paid for my first "free" system? Users don't care about a cost they don't directly see.
Malware? How does Linux stop me from having my Facebook account password leaked? I mean sure I get plenty of viruses sent my way, I can find them in my gmail inbox but for some reason I can't open them or download them. Even so you're entire argument boils down to "no one uses this so we're not a target, please come join us and make us a target".
Your arguments are complete nonsense in the eyes of the people you don't understand. So let me answer your title question: Why do people not abandon an OS in favour of another? Because they don't care!.
Sidenote: You don't reboot your computer? Do you not like security? I get it Linux never needs rebooting. ***fires up putty****
Authenticating with public key "rsa-key-20150627"
Welcome to Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64)
*** System restart required ***
No mail.
Last login: Sun Apr 7 21:59:21 2019 from 192.168.2.109
~# uptime
09:01:36 up 7 days, 11:47, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.26, 0.63
Well shit looks like a security update came through this week and I need to reboot my magical Linux computer.
No it's not. You're a university (lecturer / tutor / something) that straight away makes your use case truly bizarre.
Software to prepare taxes?, Skype for Business? Office? iTunes (hell most iPhone people I know don't bother with that anymore)?
If that were the requirement then there's no reason Linux wouldn't have a good 20% of the market share. This office think you speak of is just a slow version of Google Docs. Acrobat? What's that? I click on a PDF on any system and it opens and lets me fill out forms. I don't know what software opens it, but the only place I see Acrobat is on my Android phone. Windows > Edge, Linux > Okular (I had to actually open a PDF right now to know what the software was even called).
The sad reality is that consumers really don't give a shit these days. They used to. Software played a big role in the past, but in the days where the most popular email client is the browser, the most popular document editor is the browser, the most popular spreadsheet tool is the browser, the most popular pdf viewer is the browser, those days have passed.
What's holding up Linux is that Windows just is a default, synonymous to computing as the computer itself. Go to HP's website, buy a computer. Windows is on it. If you dig around you may get a choice, but chances are you won't. Go to best buy, all the (non mac/chromebooks) computers are showing Windows. Take it home and Windows boots up.
For many office users, Outlook and Excel are the reason.
FTFY. Outlook? What's that? Some fancy interface into gmail? Excel? Is that like a slow version of Google Sheet? How do I get Excel on my iPad? Why does it work differently there than on my Chromebook?
The Office excuse is tired. If Office were the driver Linux would easily have some 20% market share. A significant number of users don't care about MS Office, or productivity apps in general, and I use "app" here because that's what computing has boiled down to. "Software" no longer matters.
Likewise, 3 monitor setup? Somehow I don't think that's a normal use case. The only thing which needs to work sound wise on a common desktop is that audio switches from speakers to headphones, assuming the speakers themselves don't have a headphone socket. And Pulseaudio for all the slashdot rage that induces got that working years ago.
On the other hand Windows OEM licenses coming with every PC combined with users who frankly don't give a crap what OS they are using has a much bigger impact.
Gave windows 10 away? How about users being forced to buy Windows licenses at checkout without price impact?
Windows dominance didn't come from the Windows 10 freebie. It came from OEM distribution.
But it's basic issue with toppling Windows dominance over the desktop is Apps. Plain and simple.
No. Toppling Windows dominance is default installs. Users don't give a shit. Period. Much of the computer has been reduced these days to firing up a browser and using Google. If Apps were the only thing holding Linux back there would be no reason Linux doesn't have say 10-20% of the market share. The reality is a good chunk of computers aren't used for "big name corps" software.
I really don't know.
I do. The reality is that people don't care. They will use what they are given providing it works. And despite what Slashdot users typically think of Windows, it actually works. Minor frustrations aren't motivation to throw everything out and start again. /Posted from a completely irrelevant OS since a browser is available on all of them.
You're trying to configure niche graphics and write code
Actually it sounded like he was trying to play a game and finish a shitty highschool assignment.
Why can't it be all three?
It's more fundamental than that: people don't care and Windows is installed when they buy their machines.
It's like 85% as good as installing it.
You see it's crap like that that gives Linux a bad name. No it's not 85% as good. It's barely 20% as good. It gives you a nice OS wonderfully out of date with a complicated system to store resident files while at the same time being painfully slow.
Running Linux from a USB stick has it's place but claiming it's 85% of anything even remotely resembling a desktop workspace just serves to reinforce the idea that opensource zealots are just pushing an agenda rather than actually presenting a serious product.
You'll find that "Could x be the next y" is the type of shit that editors come up with when they rewrite user submitted stories for more clickbait.
As for how specific the numbers are 5 x 16 per chip + speculation from articles on the server control hub that each chip will get a lane dedicated to it rather than having split up one of the group of 16. Even as speculation that makes perfect sense.
Can a device like this work perfectly every time?
Doesn't need to. It's high time we remember driving is a privilege and not a right. Maybe if cars were less likely to start people would learn that and feel less like entitled gits when they get out on the road.
After we solve that I'm keen to hear how we can fix Slashdot Armchair engineers who seem to know more about products that the people actually developing them. Or maybe you're actually working for the company. Has your local media group released you to share this confidential information? I mean random aromas, NO ONE would ever have thought about THAT.