Except in this case for this mine we are talking about the policy Merkel agreed in 2007 with North Rhine-Westphalia, Saarland, and the local union to cease providing government funding to RAG by the end of 2018.
Germany should have stopped funding coal mines 40 years ago.
Agreed, sadly so should every other country. You're doing well. You want to see some really shameful actions look to Australia where they are proposing to build a new record setting coalmine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Adani are still pushing ahead of it, but thanks to an environmental campaign that focused not on Adani but rather on the major banks they weren't able to get funding to build the largest mine in Australia.. now... in 20 fucking 19.
Funny: the amount of workers is super small
It is now that the last mine is closing. However the industry itself was not super small in employment. Have you been to the Ruhrgebiet? There's Zeches as far as the eye can see and it was the economic powerhouse of Germany for a long time. The workers are only insignificant now at the end, but 40 years ago,... the support for the coal and steel industry employed a good chunk of that part of Europe, and with the lack of environmental focus there's no surprise nothing happened back then.
Not that I recommend visiting, but if you ever want a laugh type: "Things to do in Gelsenkirchen" into Google. You have the choice to visit: - Zollverein coal mine - Zoo - Nordstern coal mine - Zollverein coking complex - Halde Rheinelbe (listed as hiking in english which doesn't really properly emphasis you're on a coal mine) - Schurenbachhalde - Halde Rungenberg - Pluto coal mine - Bonifacius coal mine
There's also an aqua park but that's no fun in winter:-) That region actively celebrates it's mining heritage: https://www.zollverein.de/erle...
But yes you are right, we can see from America, the working class love coal regardless of the fact that it is slowly killing them.
The time of day isn't static. It changes approximately every minute.
Splitting hairs won't win you any friends or arguments. The time of day was the first thing burnt into early OLED displays on first generation smartphones. It doesn't need to be static, it just needs to be statistically in more use than surrounding pixels to make a difference.
The EU (the institution) is NOT closing mines. The EU is cutting funding. The mines are closing themselves. There is a very VERY big distinction.
Furthermore the EU (and this story) has nothing to do with the closure of Prosper-Haniel 2 weeks ago (it was a great party there by the way, fireworks, shame the local football team lost it killed the mood). That was Merkel's own policy that caused the closure.
What the hell is so challenging about automating trains?
The effect of failure causes an immediate and very high risk to safety and lives. Especially an iron ore train. Rio Tinto's competitor BHP has only recently shown what needed to be done when a the automation fails: https://www.abc.net.au/news/20... After forcing the train to derail the result was 1.5km of damaged railway and a huge mess to clean up, combined with a lot of luck that in this remote part of Australia it's possible to derail a train without injuring people.
There are many automation projects for trains. They almost always represent short loop runs without any complicated network logic to manage. e.g. Paris Metro line 14.
One man's gimmick is 10000 other men's default. The reality is few people give a crap about classic UI, but many people care seem to care about light and dark mode for all programs on all platforms.
It's stupid that our system allows this so easily.
This right here. Other countries have in their constitution that bills of appropriation for government services can not deal with any matter other than appropriation for government services. I.e. you want to fund the wall, it has to be separate from the agreement that keeps the government running.
And government employees have ALWAYS been granted back pay
*salaried government employees have always been granted back pay.
Fuck you for making light of this situation all the while ignoring that the people most affected are at the same time those most vulnerable. But you're a republican so you don't give a fuck about others.
I would be willing to bet that if he closed off the Southern Border for an extended period of time, Mexico would be more than willing to negotiate payments for said wall.
Yeah but then how would Donald Trump sell his stuff? I mean most of it is made in Mexico.
All I ever hear of is the EU banning one thing or another.
That's because you live in what is commonly known as an "echo chamber". This is sad really since in the days of Google the only people who spend their time in ignorance do so willfully.
Indeed, but remember they aren't "closing mines". What they are doing is refusing to inject subsidies into the industry. The net effect will have to come from somewhere, typically that will be in the form of higher prices making coal power less attractive and viable.
The immediate impact is zero to the environment (aside from the local town being able to breath clean air). But in the long run this does have an effect which is incremental on all the other pressures being faced.
Oh yes, the chancellor who was probably totally ok with the total surveillance her constituents were already subject to
We call that a strawman, something completely irrelevant to the discussion. Ms Merkel can go suck eggs for a lot of reasons, but what has any of that got to do with the USA being a hostile ally?
Speaking as someone from western Europe, the problem with Huawei is that in geopolitical terms China is not an ally by any stretch of the imagination. The USA are. If there's any serious trouble
Was it China or that "ally" who was tapping the German Chancellor's phone calls?
The working conditions are pretty good in a lot of those Chinese factories, the workers make enough money to send home to their rural families, and despite the sensationalist claims, suicide rates are roughly equivalent to the non-factory worker population.
Of course they are now that they've installed nets to catch all those jumpers.
is the presence of so much SKILLED labour all concentrated in one place
Well you clearly live in one of the states which recently legalised weed.
Either that or you're willfully ignorant beyond all normal comprehension. Or you're a shill, but honestly that term has no value on slashdot anymore thanks to the trolls.
If the guy climbed it with a rifle strapped to his back then, sure, take some precautionary steps.
Shutting down traffic because someone is flying an RC aircraft from the top of a bridge ?
How do you know if he had a rifle? While we're at it, what makes you think the drone was in any way involved. I'll bet you a Marsbar that if you climbed the bridge without anything on you they'll still stop traffic until you're done. That's kind of text book scenario.
That stupid decision caused far more problems than it solved.
What? Reduced the chance of a chain of potential injuries / fatalities if someone managed to fall from somewhere they weren't supposed to be onto moving vehicles below? All in exchange for some slow commuter traffic? Even if the UK wasn't a nation full of people brought up on the idea of orderly queuing for a long time and spending a good portion of the day swearing politely at traffic, this still wouldn't have "caused far more problems than it solved."
It is a shame that people are not able to fundamentally grasp that the government is in the wrong here.
They would be if it were true. But the reality is that a person had climbed a structure not meant to be climbed and posed a danger to himself and the people underneath it. In what world does closing the bridge until that person is off the structure not seem like the normal response?
There's nothing wrong with protecting the life of stupid people as well as those they may impact (if he fell). The fact that a drone was involved is clickbait and irrelevant.
Too many times police will unnecessarily escalate situations complicating matters in ways that just are not necessary to resolve the problem.
They reduced risk at the cost of a bit of traffic. A textbook case of deescalating an unknown and risky situation. Boo fucking hoo.
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There is no particular Merkel policy.
Except in this case for this mine we are talking about the policy Merkel agreed in 2007 with North Rhine-Westphalia, Saarland, and the local union to cease providing government funding to RAG by the end of 2018.
Germany should have stopped funding coal mines 40 years ago.
Agreed, sadly so should every other country. You're doing well. You want to see some really shameful actions look to Australia where they are proposing to build a new record setting coalmine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Adani are still pushing ahead of it, but thanks to an environmental campaign that focused not on Adani but rather on the major banks they weren't able to get funding to build the largest mine in Australia.. now ... in 20 fucking 19.
Funny: the amount of workers is super small
It is now that the last mine is closing. However the industry itself was not super small in employment. Have you been to the Ruhrgebiet? There's Zeches as far as the eye can see and it was the economic powerhouse of Germany for a long time. The workers are only insignificant now at the end, but 40 years ago,... the support for the coal and steel industry employed a good chunk of that part of Europe, and with the lack of environmental focus there's no surprise nothing happened back then.
Not that I recommend visiting, but if you ever want a laugh type: "Things to do in Gelsenkirchen" into Google.
You have the choice to visit:
- Zollverein coal mine
- Zoo
- Nordstern coal mine
- Zollverein coking complex
- Halde Rheinelbe (listed as hiking in english which doesn't really properly emphasis you're on a coal mine)
- Schurenbachhalde
- Halde Rungenberg
- Pluto coal mine
- Bonifacius coal mine
There's also an aqua park but that's no fun in winter :-)
That region actively celebrates it's mining heritage: https://www.zollverein.de/erle...
But yes you are right, we can see from America, the working class love coal regardless of the fact that it is slowly killing them.
Why? It's so much fun watching idiots like you get worked up over this.
My friend you need to realise a very important fact: I only troll those who deserve it.
The time of day isn't static. It changes approximately every minute.
Splitting hairs won't win you any friends or arguments. The time of day was the first thing burnt into early OLED displays on first generation smartphones. It doesn't need to be static, it just needs to be statistically in more use than surrounding pixels to make a difference.
Gotta keep on trolling my friend.
The EU (the institution) is NOT closing mines. The EU is cutting funding. The mines are closing themselves. There is a very VERY big distinction.
Furthermore the EU (and this story) has nothing to do with the closure of Prosper-Haniel 2 weeks ago (it was a great party there by the way, fireworks, shame the local football team lost it killed the mood). That was Merkel's own policy that caused the closure.
The more sensible one that your parents grew up in.
Horseshit. People have been closing roads due to risk from climbers for as far back as anyone can remember.
What the hell is so challenging about automating trains?
The effect of failure causes an immediate and very high risk to safety and lives. Especially an iron ore train. Rio Tinto's competitor BHP has only recently shown what needed to be done when a the automation fails: https://www.abc.net.au/news/20... After forcing the train to derail the result was 1.5km of damaged railway and a huge mess to clean up, combined with a lot of luck that in this remote part of Australia it's possible to derail a train without injuring people.
There are many automation projects for trains. They almost always represent short loop runs without any complicated network logic to manage. e.g. Paris Metro line 14.
yet they will give us a gimmicky dark mode
One man's gimmick is 10000 other men's default. The reality is few people give a crap about classic UI, but many people care seem to care about light and dark mode for all programs on all platforms.
It's stupid that our system allows this so easily.
This right here. Other countries have in their constitution that bills of appropriation for government services can not deal with any matter other than appropriation for government services. I.e. you want to fund the wall, it has to be separate from the agreement that keeps the government running.
And government employees have ALWAYS been granted back pay
*salaried government employees have always been granted back pay.
Fuck you for making light of this situation all the while ignoring that the people most affected are at the same time those most vulnerable. But you're a republican so you don't give a fuck about others.
I would be willing to bet that if he closed off the Southern Border for an extended period of time, Mexico would be more than willing to negotiate payments for said wall.
Yeah but then how would Donald Trump sell his stuff? I mean most of it is made in Mexico.
Hillary Clinton's Titty?
and I actually researched that stuff
What are you doing here then? Slashdot is not a forum for informed and factually correct discourse.
Wait what.... you're an immigrant. Deport him, #MAGA!
*note the incredible amount of both sarcasm and disappointment in my post.
All I ever hear of is the EU banning one thing or another.
That's because you live in what is commonly known as an "echo chamber". This is sad really since in the days of Google the only people who spend their time in ignorance do so willfully.
Closing mines doesn't mean anything
Indeed, but remember they aren't "closing mines". What they are doing is refusing to inject subsidies into the industry. The net effect will have to come from somewhere, typically that will be in the form of higher prices making coal power less attractive and viable.
The immediate impact is zero to the environment (aside from the local town being able to breath clean air). But in the long run this does have an effect which is incremental on all the other pressures being faced.
You're telling me mining in EU countries like Poland or Bulgaria will stop?
I think the only thing anyone will be telling you is that you don't know how to read.
I'm somewhat immune
Please don't breed.
Oh yes, the chancellor who was probably totally ok with the total surveillance her constituents were already subject to
We call that a strawman, something completely irrelevant to the discussion. Ms Merkel can go suck eggs for a lot of reasons, but what has any of that got to do with the USA being a hostile ally?
Define freedom of speech. If you're going to go with the US constitutional version then pretty much no other country does does that.
Speaking as someone from western Europe, the problem with Huawei is that in geopolitical terms China is not an ally by any stretch of the imagination. The USA are. If there's any serious trouble
Was it China or that "ally" who was tapping the German Chancellor's phone calls?
The working conditions are pretty good in a lot of those Chinese factories, the workers make enough money to send home to their rural families, and despite the sensationalist claims, suicide rates are roughly equivalent to the non-factory worker population.
Of course they are now that they've installed nets to catch all those jumpers.
is the presence of so much SKILLED labour all concentrated in one place
Well you clearly live in one of the states which recently legalised weed.
Either that or you're willfully ignorant beyond all normal comprehension. Or you're a shill, but honestly that term has no value on slashdot anymore thanks to the trolls.
Would be much cheaper if government just ignored this slob or waited for him to come down an arrest him without all of this "over reactive BS".
Would it be cheaper if he fell? Hit a car causing a chain of accidents that took hours to clear and closed the bridge for a significantly longer time?
Check yourself before you wreak yourself man. That anti-government anger vein on your forehead looks like it's about to burst.
If the guy climbed it with a rifle strapped to his back then, sure, take some precautionary steps.
Shutting down traffic because someone is flying an RC aircraft from the top of a bridge ?
How do you know if he had a rifle? While we're at it, what makes you think the drone was in any way involved. I'll bet you a Marsbar that if you climbed the bridge without anything on you they'll still stop traffic until you're done. That's kind of text book scenario.
That stupid decision caused far more problems than it solved.
What? Reduced the chance of a chain of potential injuries / fatalities if someone managed to fall from somewhere they weren't supposed to be onto moving vehicles below? All in exchange for some slow commuter traffic? Even if the UK wasn't a nation full of people brought up on the idea of orderly queuing for a long time and spending a good portion of the day swearing politely at traffic, this still wouldn't have "caused far more problems than it solved."
It is a shame that people are not able to fundamentally grasp that the government is in the wrong here.
They would be if it were true. But the reality is that a person had climbed a structure not meant to be climbed and posed a danger to himself and the people underneath it. In what world does closing the bridge until that person is off the structure not seem like the normal response?
There's nothing wrong with protecting the life of stupid people as well as those they may impact (if he fell). The fact that a drone was involved is clickbait and irrelevant.
Too many times police will unnecessarily escalate situations complicating matters in ways that just are not necessary to resolve the problem.
They reduced risk at the cost of a bit of traffic. A textbook case of deescalating an unknown and risky situation. Boo fucking hoo.
Wait are you talking about the person or the cops? Because I honestly can't tell.