No you don't. Debt as a commoner thinks of it, and debt as its legal and financial definition are two different things. Did both parties sign a fixed contract including all obligations clearing of future debt? Was the beer handed to you as a consideration for a contract of debt? If not, you don't owe debt, and when you walk out of the bar you're not going to have lawyers come after you for your failure to close out your contractually obligated debt, you'll have the police coming after you for stealing.
Legal tender for all debts public and private means exclusively that the USA central bank will accept USD bills to close out any outstanding contractual debt, and that private banks need to handle debt likewise. For instance when you keep your money in a bank, read through your contract. It's a signed contract signifying the "debt" they owe you. Nothing more
if they provided goods or services FIRST, then you owe a debt.
Did you both sign a contract including all terms and conditions for the debt you have? If not then you aren't in debt, and when you walk out of that store you're not in trouble for failure to meet your contractual repayment obligations but rather you're gonna be done for stealing.
Wowowow no. Please don't get hung up on the commoner's definition of debt = you owe someone money. That's not how debt is legally defined. It's also not the intent of the statement about legal tender.
Debt as far as legal tender is concerned can only be incurred in the form of a fixed financial contract. You are not in debt between the time you finish your dinner and when you pay, or when you fill up your car (especially in the latter case as stupidly outlined in the conversation because their goods haven't even left the premises yet. If you walk out you will also be charged under different legal frameworks (stealing vs breach of contract).
Legal tender for all debts public and private means exclusively that the USA central bank will accept USD bills to close out any outstanding debt, and that private banks need to handle debt likewise. For instance when you keep your money in a bank, read through your contract. It's a signed contract signifying the "debt" they owe you. Nothing more
And since this will come up 100 more times in this thread I'm now going on a copy-paste-athon.
Decency, respect, you know the general things nearly everyone in the world does because people generally aren't arsehats. What kind of people do you surround yourself with that gives you a differing opinion?
That makes it no less strange. Also are you saying America is not big on nationalism? Are you just blanking out this entire presidency and hoping in 2 years that it was all a bad dream?
Define "running". Look to the right of Edge, see that little green leaf? Then google how Windows 10 suspends processes and how superfetch preloads them.
The only benefit here is that edge executes faster. It doesn't "run" in the background. In fact a suspended process requires external triggers to wake and can't even wake itself.
You're reading too much into it. On Windows 10 UWPs like Edge, the store, Pictures etc don't ever get closed but rather they get suspended. They sit in RAM but are otherwise blocked from executing any task until some external event (e.g. user running the executable) rewakes the process. If the system runs low on memory the suspended processes get dumped.
This has the effect of only helping initial startup times. These suspended apps don't consume any CPU or power. They only reason they exist at all is because part of superfetch is that it pre-executes these apps so they are ready to go when you need them. Though I wish it wouldn't do it for those apps which are unused.
So is it if anyone has an opinion not matching your own, it's invalid?
Well yes, in an opinion piece if someone's doesn't match yours it becomes invalid for you. However reading through the comments here and adding my own personal opinion to it, it would appear the author is looking for things to whine about given most of the posts here are completely neutral on the topic.
So yes it's invalid.
There is 4 pixels worth of blue at the very top of the title bar that functions to move the browser window.
And given that was not a change introduced in the recent UI change your post is invalid too.
Define meaningful. OLED degrade when used. On your phone it's completely irrelevant. On a TV the jury is still out. On a PC however where the screen is on for many hours of the day showing a static image and we expect more than a few years life from our monitors (my current one is 10 years old), it becomes meaningful.
Ah, Slashdot, the site where complete ignorance can get upmods. Copper fumes are toxic [medlineplus.gov], and metals can remain in the air for surprising periods of time when burned. If you're on the other side of a solid wall (or hell, just a good piece of heavy black paper) the arc flash is a non-issue, but the copper in the air is still a problem.
Yeah and if you're close enough to breath them in during a transformer fire in the open air, then you're already dead. That's not ignorance, that's you just completely missing the point. Copper fumes are a problem in an enclosed building, think switchboards arcing out. Copper in the air from a transformer fire is not a problem for anyone who isn't already electrocuted, burnt, currently already on fire, or about be.
Here on planet earth, we have air. And that air has currents in it, which we often call winds.
Amazing thing about currents, they have this great ability to dissipate pollutants down to pointless levels. Speaking of currents have you ever seen an arc flash vapourise copper. It has this amazing ability to generate a current of its own, straight up into the air thanks to the high temperatures involved. If you're not sitting in an enclosed room you can take a nice deep breath, you won't be breathing any copper that is even remotely relevant to your health.
But you are right about one thing, there's a lot of ignorance on Slashdot. Maybe look up the number of people who died during electrical incidents due to chemical poisoning sometime. Hint, a double amputee can count it on his fingers.
Errr no. Stop being so senselessly offended by everyone by reading deeply into shit until you find something that doesn't exist.
My argument (actually just a side comment really, but whatever) is that working class people in Europe (and white collar workers too) find American nationalism funny (nothing to do with working class). I still remember when one of our sites in NL rolled out new overalls, they were bought from an American company and they asked if the site wanted the Dutch flag on it. Everyone was like, huh? WTF? Why? Flags are to symbolise you graduated high-school and to wave around during football games and on kings day. Why would you want one at work?
Sorry but horseshit. Telephones have always had outages. The difference is back then you didn't notice it straight away because your Facebook stopped working.
That's a very biased and simplistic ways of looking at one of the possible outcomes. Or maybe it would happen along the lines of:
1. Be voluntarily appointed as the administrator. 2. Determine what if any of the business can be saved. 3. Inject capital in the form of a high risk loan and a controlling stake of how that loan is spent. 4. Turn the business around into a profit. 5. Recover the loan with interest.
Sometimes you even get number 6: Receive an award for the best turnaround of the decade. Though that isn't relevant in this case. Last time that happened was when this no name company called Hilco was appointed administrator of some music store called HMV 6 years ago and prevented the company from being liquidated. That is a completely different scenario.
because I am still able to copy-paste two lines from the VLC site into a terminal window.
So what you're saying is you customised your carefully curated distribution's repos. Hurrah. More power to you. Just be glad that VLC is stable code and the next version doesn't require library updates that are incompatible with the existing requirements of your repo. You quickly find yourself in the Windows equivalent of DLL hell.
Your objection only applies to people unable to copy-paste, IMHO...
Why copy and paste when you can just click on the snappy? IMHO you're dangerous, advocating copying and pasting rather than understanding is precisely why Linux has bad name, and leads to things breaking.
Please from this point forward just point people at the officially sanction snap to save them from your "help".
Except, possibly, for distribution transformers that have been in continuous operation for 40 years or more with no maintenance ever performed on them.....
If you have a working electrical utility --- you don't have a luxury of being able to simply shut off distribution every few years to maintenance all the equipment and change the transformer oil.
If you can't take a distribution transformer offline for maintenance you don't have a "working electrical utility".
Every country I've ever worked in (I haven't been in the USA) has required N+1 radial feeds, ring-mains, or a combination of both at any meaningful distribution level precisely because in order to provide good reliable power maintenance is a must. This goes doubly for something as important as the grid connection of the power plant where some countries require N+2 capacity.
when was the last time your utility told you they were going to turn you off to check oil on the transformers for your block?
When was the last time they were required to inform you? Personally at home, I never got any notification. However I was connected to the same 33kV feed as my work where we received a "Notice of reduced reliability of supply" approximately once a month as the utility worked on some equipment somewhere between our 33kV incomers and the main 330kV feed to our city. It was my job to ensure we weren't doing either high risk work or work on our redundant incomers during these periods.
The place you may see some PCBs is in pole top transformers in the country, but a typical city distribution grid is easy* to route around with a bit of effort even if you don't have redundant equipment.
*The work is easy. Redoing fault and protection calculations when you find some maintenance job requires a makeshift bus-tie between two substations that was "value engineered" out during design is far less easy.
Historically, they were filled with more exotic chemical brews. There are many still in use that are filled with PCB [wikipedia.org]s, which are definitely not good for the environment.
Transformer oil doesn't last forever. What they were filled with historically is not really relevant today. Pretty much every transformer on the EPA's PCB register only has trace amounts of PCBs which were retained in the insulation after the oil was swapped out and other PCB containing parts were remdiated, and a PCB value of 0.05% is grounds for throwing out otherwise good oil (though I haven't seen oil replaced due to hitting this value outside of an actual PCB remediation program).
The short of it you'd be hard pressed to find a transformer "filled" with PCBs anymore in a city.
Iron and copper can be pretty horrible when inhaled
If you're close enough for iron and copper (not heavy metals) to be a problem for your lungs, then I suggest you get some SPF75 because the UV from that arc flash will be your biggest concern, right after the fact that you probably coped a significant amount of molten copper to your face. Mind you your concern will be short lived as the natural end a transformer scenario is a boil over. You can rest calmly as your burn alive thinking "at least I did not inhale".
What? Transformers are made almost entirely out of heavy metals.
Err no, not in the slightest. They have metals in them. Metals are heavy. That does not mean they have any heavy metals. Infact mostly they are copper, iron, wood, paper, oil, and all put in a steel box.
Completely false, there are still old transformers with PCBs in them in the USA, and some of them are in the New York power system [epa.gov].
Pointless reference. You're required to register any transformer which was made with PCBs in them to the EPA regardless if you've replaced the PCBs and regularly change the oil or not. Those would be on the list due to the potential for trace PCBs to leech out of insulation that remains. In fact those transformers on the list if the PCB content exceeds 0.05% an oil change becomes mandated. Also those transformers are registered since the disposal of their oil needs to be handled differently.
Good list though I can even see one of our transformers (which had its PCB containing components retrofitted 15 years ago) on it.
PCBs being pretty much the most toxic thing that we have in our cities, I'm guessing not.
No the most toxic thing you have in your city is FUD based on ignorance.
Only that this fact was the sole source of your argument. Truly horrible people have justified their actions based on facts.
Yeah, those places just happen to be mainly 3rd world countries.
Errr no, it's mainly 1st world countries. Your idea that liability is automatic in Germany just really shows how little clue you have about the world outside the USA.
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If you drank the beer, you owe a debt.
No you don't. Debt as a commoner thinks of it, and debt as its legal and financial definition are two different things. Did both parties sign a fixed contract including all obligations clearing of future debt? Was the beer handed to you as a consideration for a contract of debt? If not, you don't owe debt, and when you walk out of the bar you're not going to have lawyers come after you for your failure to close out your contractually obligated debt, you'll have the police coming after you for stealing.
Legal tender for all debts public and private means exclusively that the USA central bank will accept USD bills to close out any outstanding contractual debt, and that private banks need to handle debt likewise. For instance when you keep your money in a bank, read through your contract. It's a signed contract signifying the "debt" they owe you. Nothing more
if they provided goods or services FIRST, then you owe a debt.
Did you both sign a contract including all terms and conditions for the debt you have? If not then you aren't in debt, and when you walk out of that store you're not in trouble for failure to meet your contractual repayment obligations but rather you're gonna be done for stealing.
You can't incur debt buying a product or service.
Wowowow no. Please don't get hung up on the commoner's definition of debt = you owe someone money. That's not how debt is legally defined. It's also not the intent of the statement about legal tender.
Debt as far as legal tender is concerned can only be incurred in the form of a fixed financial contract. You are not in debt between the time you finish your dinner and when you pay, or when you fill up your car (especially in the latter case as stupidly outlined in the conversation because their goods haven't even left the premises yet. If you walk out you will also be charged under different legal frameworks (stealing vs breach of contract).
Legal tender for all debts public and private means exclusively that the USA central bank will accept USD bills to close out any outstanding debt, and that private banks need to handle debt likewise. For instance when you keep your money in a bank, read through your contract. It's a signed contract signifying the "debt" they owe you. Nothing more
And since this will come up 100 more times in this thread I'm now going on a copy-paste-athon.
Honestly, no matter WHAT the rules for Airbnb may or may not be, why on earth would you be stupid enough to do that?
You do realise that there are literally hundreds of thousands of these kinds of transactions every day that work out just fine for all involved right?
You think that's bad you should see adults. They generalise, vilify and these days are not worthy of respect.
Decency, respect, you know the general things nearly everyone in the world does because people generally aren't arsehats. What kind of people do you surround yourself with that gives you a differing opinion?
That makes it no less strange. Also are you saying America is not big on nationalism? Are you just blanking out this entire presidency and hoping in 2 years that it was all a bad dream?
So you're basically saying your screen is off when you don't use it? How does that help people who use their computers?
Define "running". Look to the right of Edge, see that little green leaf? Then google how Windows 10 suspends processes and how superfetch preloads them.
The only benefit here is that edge executes faster. It doesn't "run" in the background. In fact a suspended process requires external triggers to wake and can't even wake itself.
You're reading too much into it. On Windows 10 UWPs like Edge, the store, Pictures etc don't ever get closed but rather they get suspended. They sit in RAM but are otherwise blocked from executing any task until some external event (e.g. user running the executable) rewakes the process. If the system runs low on memory the suspended processes get dumped.
This has the effect of only helping initial startup times. These suspended apps don't consume any CPU or power. They only reason they exist at all is because part of superfetch is that it pre-executes these apps so they are ready to go when you need them. Though I wish it wouldn't do it for those apps which are unused.
So is it if anyone has an opinion not matching your own, it's invalid?
Well yes, in an opinion piece if someone's doesn't match yours it becomes invalid for you. However reading through the comments here and adding my own personal opinion to it, it would appear the author is looking for things to whine about given most of the posts here are completely neutral on the topic.
So yes it's invalid.
There is 4 pixels worth of blue at the very top of the title bar that functions to move the browser window.
And given that was not a change introduced in the recent UI change your post is invalid too.
Define meaningful. OLED degrade when used. On your phone it's completely irrelevant. On a TV the jury is still out. On a PC however where the screen is on for many hours of the day showing a static image and we expect more than a few years life from our monitors (my current one is 10 years old), it becomes meaningful.
Ah, Slashdot, the site where complete ignorance can get upmods. Copper fumes are toxic [medlineplus.gov], and metals can remain in the air for surprising periods of time when burned. If you're on the other side of a solid wall (or hell, just a good piece of heavy black paper) the arc flash is a non-issue, but the copper in the air is still a problem.
Yeah and if you're close enough to breath them in during a transformer fire in the open air, then you're already dead. That's not ignorance, that's you just completely missing the point. Copper fumes are a problem in an enclosed building, think switchboards arcing out. Copper in the air from a transformer fire is not a problem for anyone who isn't already electrocuted, burnt, currently already on fire, or about be.
Here on planet earth, we have air. And that air has currents in it, which we often call winds.
Amazing thing about currents, they have this great ability to dissipate pollutants down to pointless levels. Speaking of currents have you ever seen an arc flash vapourise copper. It has this amazing ability to generate a current of its own, straight up into the air thanks to the high temperatures involved. If you're not sitting in an enclosed room you can take a nice deep breath, you won't be breathing any copper that is even remotely relevant to your health.
But you are right about one thing, there's a lot of ignorance on Slashdot. Maybe look up the number of people who died during electrical incidents due to chemical poisoning sometime. Hint, a double amputee can count it on his fingers.
Errr no. Stop being so senselessly offended by everyone by reading deeply into shit until you find something that doesn't exist.
My argument (actually just a side comment really, but whatever) is that working class people in Europe (and white collar workers too) find American nationalism funny (nothing to do with working class). I still remember when one of our sites in NL rolled out new overalls, they were bought from an American company and they asked if the site wanted the Dutch flag on it. Everyone was like, huh? WTF? Why? Flags are to symbolise you graduated high-school and to wave around during football games and on kings day. Why would you want one at work?
That's okay. America has cheap and cost effective healthcare available to all.
As soon as you have called the cops, you have given up all control in the situation
That is a good thing. It's not your job to handle incidents.
Sorry but horseshit. Telephones have always had outages. The difference is back then you didn't notice it straight away because your Facebook stopped working.
That's a very biased and simplistic ways of looking at one of the possible outcomes. Or maybe it would happen along the lines of:
1. Be voluntarily appointed as the administrator.
2. Determine what if any of the business can be saved.
3. Inject capital in the form of a high risk loan and a controlling stake of how that loan is spent.
4. Turn the business around into a profit.
5. Recover the loan with interest.
Sometimes you even get number 6: Receive an award for the best turnaround of the decade. Though that isn't relevant in this case. Last time that happened was when this no name company called Hilco was appointed administrator of some music store called HMV 6 years ago and prevented the company from being liquidated. That is a completely different scenario.
Why is this modded Funny instead of insightful? It's a perfect explanation.
because I am still able to copy-paste two lines from the VLC site into a terminal window.
So what you're saying is you customised your carefully curated distribution's repos. Hurrah. More power to you. Just be glad that VLC is stable code and the next version doesn't require library updates that are incompatible with the existing requirements of your repo. You quickly find yourself in the Windows equivalent of DLL hell.
Your objection only applies to people unable to copy-paste, IMHO...
Why copy and paste when you can just click on the snappy? IMHO you're dangerous, advocating copying and pasting rather than understanding is precisely why Linux has bad name, and leads to things breaking.
Please from this point forward just point people at the officially sanction snap to save them from your "help".
Except, possibly, for distribution transformers that have been in continuous operation for 40 years or more with no maintenance ever performed on them.....
If you have a working electrical utility --- you don't have a luxury of being able to simply shut off distribution every few years to maintenance all the equipment and change the transformer oil.
If you can't take a distribution transformer offline for maintenance you don't have a "working electrical utility".
Every country I've ever worked in (I haven't been in the USA) has required N+1 radial feeds, ring-mains, or a combination of both at any meaningful distribution level precisely because in order to provide good reliable power maintenance is a must. This goes doubly for something as important as the grid connection of the power plant where some countries require N+2 capacity.
when was the last time your utility told you they were going to turn you off to check oil on the transformers for your block?
When was the last time they were required to inform you? Personally at home, I never got any notification. However I was connected to the same 33kV feed as my work where we received a "Notice of reduced reliability of supply" approximately once a month as the utility worked on some equipment somewhere between our 33kV incomers and the main 330kV feed to our city. It was my job to ensure we weren't doing either high risk work or work on our redundant incomers during these periods.
The place you may see some PCBs is in pole top transformers in the country, but a typical city distribution grid is easy* to route around with a bit of effort even if you don't have redundant equipment.
*The work is easy. Redoing fault and protection calculations when you find some maintenance job requires a makeshift bus-tie between two substations that was "value engineered" out during design is far less easy.
Historically, they were filled with more exotic chemical brews. There are many still in use that are filled with PCB [wikipedia.org]s, which are definitely not good for the environment.
Transformer oil doesn't last forever. What they were filled with historically is not really relevant today. Pretty much every transformer on the EPA's PCB register only has trace amounts of PCBs which were retained in the insulation after the oil was swapped out and other PCB containing parts were remdiated, and a PCB value of 0.05% is grounds for throwing out otherwise good oil (though I haven't seen oil replaced due to hitting this value outside of an actual PCB remediation program).
The short of it you'd be hard pressed to find a transformer "filled" with PCBs anymore in a city.
Iron and copper can be pretty horrible when inhaled
If you're close enough for iron and copper (not heavy metals) to be a problem for your lungs, then I suggest you get some SPF75 because the UV from that arc flash will be your biggest concern, right after the fact that you probably coped a significant amount of molten copper to your face. Mind you your concern will be short lived as the natural end a transformer scenario is a boil over. You can rest calmly as your burn alive thinking "at least I did not inhale".
What? Transformers are made almost entirely out of heavy metals.
Err no, not in the slightest. They have metals in them. Metals are heavy. That does not mean they have any heavy metals. Infact mostly they are copper, iron, wood, paper, oil, and all put in a steel box.
Completely false, there are still old transformers with PCBs in them in the USA, and some of them are in the New York power system [epa.gov].
Pointless reference. You're required to register any transformer which was made with PCBs in them to the EPA regardless if you've replaced the PCBs and regularly change the oil or not. Those would be on the list due to the potential for trace PCBs to leech out of insulation that remains. In fact those transformers on the list if the PCB content exceeds 0.05% an oil change becomes mandated. Also those transformers are registered since the disposal of their oil needs to be handled differently.
Good list though I can even see one of our transformers (which had its PCB containing components retrofitted 15 years ago) on it.
PCBs being pretty much the most toxic thing that we have in our cities, I'm guessing not.
No the most toxic thing you have in your city is FUD based on ignorance.
Stating facts makes a person a sad man?
Only that this fact was the sole source of your argument. Truly horrible people have justified their actions based on facts.
Yeah, those places just happen to be mainly 3rd world countries.
Errr no, it's mainly 1st world countries. Your idea that liability is automatic in Germany just really shows how little clue you have about the world outside the USA.