Well, I'm on Woody, so I wouldn't even know what version the "official" Debian release is on
that's sort of my point. it's a joke that the latest 'stable', 'official' release lags so far behind what all the users are actually running. if the stability and thorough testing it what draws people to debian, why are all the users running experimental, relatively untested releases? is there even a point in having the jurassic-era stable release at all?
its just that some of the finer trolls i've witnessed on/. have started out with the same 'fortune 500' line, and then degenerated into pure, unadulterated 110% pure trolling. but it was not to be in this case...
I have been watching the Megahertz and 3D graphics cards race of the market with disgust
but you have to admit that a 1GHz CPU that pumps out enough heat to warm an olympic sized swimming pool, and a graphics cards requiring a souped up AGP bus to run, packing a cooling fan the size of a car radiator are plain straight-out fun
If you take the gene for this protein and introduce it into a fly via a virus, you can double the life span of the fly!
err...it was only increased by a maximum of 40%. and it only works if you overexpress it in motor neurons...the lifespan decreases by ~5% if its globally overexpressed
This is equipment that is expensive enough for most of us to be somewhat annoying at the very least should we wreck it.
while i'm not one of the 'hard-core' overclocking crowd (you know...building systems that are cooled by a bath of refrigerated mineral oil), i've overclocked every system i've ever owned...and never had an overclocking related failure.
admitedly, my efforts aren't all that adventurous, but i've had a P200-MMX to 250MHz, a K6-266 to 300MHz, a PII-400 to 500MHz, dual Celeron 366s to 525MHz (my home system), and a PIII-450 to 600MHz (my work system). they all work great and are just as stable as the 'spec' versions.
why wouldn't a user want to get extra performance out of their systems? i think the risks of damaging CPUs by overclocking are are a bit overhyped.
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They think in memory locations and in blocks of code - exactly like C, nothing like C++
...until they go to code their first large, collaboratively developed user application and realise that a whole bunch of low-level memory access features might be great for writing a device driver, but sorta kinda aren't terribly useful now.
and since i'm going to be roasted to a crisp anyway...
troll mode as an IT professional in a fortune 500 company, i have found through user feedback surveys and rigorous reading of ZDNet reviews that Microsoft' s Visual Basic is the ideal language for complex, cross-platform InternetEnabled application development.
and chunks blown off in this process may recoil the neutron-star remnant in the opposite direction
this theory has more applications than simply explaining the motion of neutron stars. for instance, i've often wondered when i'm bent over the toilet bowl blowing chunks after a huge drinking session, why my head recoils in the opposite direction, and everything else seems to be moving 1000 times faster than i am. now i know thanks to this new theory.
there's no way i'd let linux into my family room...imagine the heinous damage that a beowulf cluster of natalie portmans with hot grits down their pants could do to impressionable young minds
...not to mention the annoyance caused by having to stop Phantom Menace halfway through to recompile your kernel with modularized Portman support.
I don't want to start a flame ware here, but how come Debian never gets any credit.
what, don't you read the debian mailing lists? bruce perens has been locked in a bitter flame-fest with some of the other debian developers for months over his plans to merge with bill g and the microsoft krew. why do you think potato is running about 2 years late? coincidence? nooooo...don't be so naive. debian was just givng their mates at redmond a bit of breathing space to get Windows2000 and Office2000 out the door.
what do you think will be released next? debian woody, or the next major release of Windows? bruce knows which side his bread's buttered on. you can't trust those debian monopolists as far as you could toss a Win98 pre-loaded Dell Dimension.
DOJ must investigate debian and perens before its too late!!!!!
Why not support a company that are more open to providing drivers for alternative OSs? Were you stuck with a TNT?
when another company gets close to producing a video card as powerful as something from nVidia, tell me. i'm not prepared to accept second rate hardware in my system to satisfy the whims of a bunch of whiny irrelevant hippies.
It is my firm belief that as soon as the DOJ is finished with Microsoft, they should bring their artillery to bear on the monopolistic tyrants at Debian.
My favoured remedy would be for Debian to be broken into two, non-colluding entities. This structure could take a number of forms. Perhaps, one group could be spun out to stroke Stallman's nuts, while the other group sucks his cock. Another potential breakup could be DebianA doing the Stallman rimjobbing, while DebianB could possibly stuff Stallman's hairy scrotum into their mouth, and hum at a really low frequency.
No, the G4 *doesn't* beat out x86 chips of twice the clock speed. But at equivalent clock speeds, it gets the job done, and with the right I/O structure around it, it can be rather competetive.
but the fact is that you can't get a G4 that is clock speed comparable to an x86 chip. it doesn't matter how damn fast a G4 is at 450MHz...the reality is that the top end G4 is only 450-500MHz, and the top end x86 chip is 1GHz.
A Rage Pro?!?! Jesus Christ...when is Apple going to put a decent video subsystem into their machines? Sun puts those pieces of shit into their Ultra 5 boxes too...i don't get the fascination with coupling drastically obsolete 3D technology from ATI with overpriced proprietary hardware.
Use the right compiler (Compaq - and it is Free) and a 21264/750/8MB and the Athlon gets pasted to the road under the performance of the Alpha.
Well its not that surprising...8MB of L2 cache?!?! how much is that going to cost?
Oh and by the way, you can buy a dual Alpha. You can NOT buy a dual Athlon.
maybe not this month...the Athlon itself is SMP capable, and the next generation AMD chipset will support SMP.
there's no doubt that a 21264/750/8MB will be faster than an Athlon. It just gonna cost a shitload more, and i don't believe that it offers a shitload worth of extra performance. the intense competition in the x86 market is driving along the kludgy x86 architecture to higher levels of performance at an ever increasing rate, and at cheaper and cheaper prices. The Alpha (and other traditional RISC chips) are going to have an even harder time than they are now trying to compete, simply because of their high cost. MIPS is pretty much out of the game already.
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Well, I'm on Woody, so I wouldn't even know what version the "official" Debian release is on
that's sort of my point. it's a joke that the latest 'stable', 'official' release lags so far behind what all the users are actually running. if the stability and thorough testing it what draws people to debian, why are all the users running experimental, relatively untested releases? is there even a point in having the jurassic-era stable release at all?
Mandrake 7.1 is 2.2.15. and unless i'm mistaken, the kernel status of the latest 'official' debian release hasn't even made it to 2.2 yet (2.0.37?).
its just that some of the finer trolls i've witnessed on /. have started out with the same 'fortune 500' line, and then degenerated into pure, unadulterated 110% pure trolling. but it was not to be in this case...
As a professional consultant I've worked with very large Fortune 500 corporations
awww man...are we supposed to believe that? the whole As a professional consultant in a Fortune 500 company line is a classic troll come-on.
are you trolling?
I have been watching the Megahertz and 3D graphics cards race of the market with disgust
but you have to admit that a 1GHz CPU that pumps out enough heat to warm an olympic sized swimming pool, and a graphics cards requiring a souped up AGP bus to run, packing a cooling fan the size of a car radiator are plain straight-out fun
and that's what computers should be about.
Score 0?!?!?!?! what the fuck?!!?!?! this piece would have to be the best damn piece of prose i've ever read on /. since i started 2 years ago!
hot grits!!! beowulf cluster!! NATALIE PORTMAN!!!!!
thankyou.
I just would like to know, why is that? What is so special in debian slink or potato?
the fact that you had to wait an eternity for them to be released.
whoops...sounds like someone's violating their NDA.
If you take the gene for this protein and introduce it into a fly via a virus, you can double the life span of the fly!
err...it was only increased by a maximum of 40%. and it only works if you overexpress it in motor neurons...the lifespan decreases by ~5% if its globally overexpressed
This is equipment that is expensive enough for most of us to be somewhat annoying at the very least should we wreck it.
while i'm not one of the 'hard-core' overclocking crowd (you know...building systems that are cooled by a bath of refrigerated mineral oil), i've overclocked every system i've ever owned...and never had an overclocking related failure.
admitedly, my efforts aren't all that adventurous, but i've had a P200-MMX to 250MHz, a K6-266 to 300MHz, a PII-400 to 500MHz, dual Celeron 366s to 525MHz (my home system), and a PIII-450 to 600MHz (my work system). they all work great and are just as stable as the 'spec' versions.
why wouldn't a user want to get extra performance out of their systems? i think the risks of damaging CPUs by overclocking are are a bit overhyped.
They think in memory locations and in blocks of code - exactly like C, nothing like C++
...until they go to code their first large, collaboratively developed user application and realise that a whole bunch of low-level memory access features might be great for writing a device driver, but sorta kinda aren't terribly useful now.
and since i'm going to be roasted to a crisp anyway...
troll mode
as an IT professional in a fortune 500 company, i have found through user feedback surveys and rigorous reading of ZDNet reviews that Microsoft' s Visual Basic is the ideal language for complex, cross-platform InternetEnabled application development.
thank you.
and chunks blown off in this process may recoil the neutron-star remnant in the opposite direction
this theory has more applications than simply explaining the motion of neutron stars. for instance, i've often wondered when i'm bent over the toilet bowl blowing chunks after a huge drinking session, why my head recoils in the opposite direction, and everything else seems to be moving 1000 times faster than i am. now i know thanks to this new theory.
errr...and if i knew i wouldn't have to ask, would i? thank god you didn't mean it though...i was just about to start crying.
what, me, or osm?
there's no way i'd let linux into my family room...imagine the heinous damage that a beowulf cluster of natalie portmans with hot grits down their pants could do to impressionable young minds
...not to mention the annoyance caused by having to stop Phantom Menace halfway through to recompile your kernel with modularized Portman support.
Where do I download the Windows version?
from the same place you've always been able to get it from...
We have to keep our eyes on HP-UX and Solaris!
suppose Solaris x86 is already a dead duck. what about AIX though? seems that the people who use it worship it.
I don't want to start a flame ware here, but how come Debian never gets any credit.
what, don't you read the debian mailing lists? bruce perens has been locked in a bitter flame-fest with some of the other debian developers for months over his plans to merge with bill g and the microsoft krew. why do you think potato is running about 2 years late? coincidence? nooooo...don't be so naive. debian was just givng their mates at redmond a bit of breathing space to get Windows2000 and Office2000 out the door.
what do you think will be released next? debian woody, or the next major release of Windows? bruce knows which side his bread's buttered on. you can't trust those debian monopolists as far as you could toss a Win98 pre-loaded Dell Dimension.
DOJ must investigate debian and perens before its too late!!!!!
thankyou
Why not support a company that are more open to providing drivers for alternative OSs? Were you stuck with a TNT?
when another company gets close to producing a video card as powerful as something from nVidia, tell me. i'm not prepared to accept second rate hardware in my system to satisfy the whims of a bunch of whiny irrelevant hippies.
It is my firm belief that as soon as the DOJ is finished with Microsoft, they should bring their artillery to bear on the monopolistic tyrants at Debian.
My favoured remedy would be for Debian to be broken into two, non-colluding entities. This structure could take a number of forms. Perhaps, one group could be spun out to stroke Stallman's nuts, while the other group sucks his cock. Another potential breakup could be DebianA doing the Stallman rimjobbing, while DebianB could possibly stuff Stallman's hairy scrotum into their mouth, and hum at a really low frequency.
thankyou
yeah, if you like bloatware graphical installs.
...or hardware detection that actually works. man i hate that.
No, the G4 *doesn't* beat out x86 chips of twice the clock speed. But at equivalent clock speeds, it gets the job done, and with the right I/O structure around it, it can be rather competetive.
but the fact is that you can't get a G4 that is clock speed comparable to an x86 chip. it doesn't matter how damn fast a G4 is at 450MHz...the reality is that the top end G4 is only 450-500MHz, and the top end x86 chip is 1GHz.
my god this posting is superb!!! +5!!!
A Rage Pro?!?! Jesus Christ...when is Apple going to put a decent video subsystem into their machines? Sun puts those pieces of shit into their Ultra 5 boxes too...i don't get the fascination with coupling drastically obsolete 3D technology from ATI with overpriced proprietary hardware.
Use the right compiler (Compaq - and it is Free) and a 21264/750/8MB and the Athlon gets pasted to the road under the performance of the Alpha.
Well its not that surprising...8MB of L2 cache?!?! how much is that going to cost?
Oh and by the way, you can buy a dual Alpha. You can NOT buy a dual Athlon.
maybe not this month...the Athlon itself is SMP capable, and the next generation AMD chipset will support SMP.
there's no doubt that a 21264/750/8MB will be faster than an Athlon. It just gonna cost a shitload more, and i don't believe that it offers a shitload worth of extra performance. the intense competition in the x86 market is driving along the kludgy x86 architecture to higher levels of performance at an ever increasing rate, and at cheaper and cheaper prices. The Alpha (and other traditional RISC chips) are going to have an even harder time than they are now trying to compete, simply because of their high cost. MIPS is pretty much out of the game already.