Apple doesn't seem to have trouble devoting thousands of square metres of floor space to obsolete machines in their retail outlets. Maybe they can take some of the Museum's pieces. They'd just need to be careful that potential G4 tower customers didn't accidently buy the dusty old Atari 1040ST exhibit
[can't believe it's not butter voice] "I can't believe it's not a G4!!!"
I can get a emac 800Mgz/256MB/40GB for $849, and it comes with a monitor and better graphics, and the operating system
It looks like they're using G4 tower motherboards, which means AGP and PCI slots, and the processor plugged into a ZIF sockets. Plus, the thing comes in a standard looking tower case. All this means that you can upgrade it down the track with faster graphics cards, faster CPUs, easily add extra HDDs and optical drives, and niceties like SCSI and FireWire 800. You can't do that (easily) with an eMac.
I wouldn't ever buy a cheap eMac or an iMac because for your hard earned $$$'s, they're not very future proof. G4 towers are too far in the other direction...expandable, but too expensive (in Australia at least). The Core systems seem to be somewhere in between, which is very interesting (for me, at least). I can understand why people are getting excited.
Well, probably not so hot, considering that there are NO GAMES FOR THE MACINTOSH.
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault Quake III Soldier of Fortune II Sacrifice SimCity 4 Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 WarCraft III: The Frozen Throne Ghost Recon Jedi Knight II No One Lives Forever Master of Orion III BloodRayne Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003 Max Payne Return to Castle Wolfenstein Red Faction
Maybe it is about time Australia just got rid of the senate altogether.
Yes, because our House of Representatives is filled with such fine, upstanding, honest folks. Now excuse me while I use my anti-terrorism kit to wipe my arse.
The Senate may go through periods of stupidity, but fuck me...imagine Howard/Costello without some type of occasional choke being applied.
From experiences on our own LAN, GroupWise is fucking awful. Our NetWare GroupWise server needs to be restarted several times a week, and the robustness of the IMAP support is a joke. I don't know if this is true for all GroupWise installations, or if it's just a local problem here, but things have taken a definite turn for the worse since we had it forced upon us about a year ago.
Why would there be an app that would require a processor that doesn't exist?
I don't know, ask Sun...they're the ones who invented Java. It's still waiting for the first batch of 10GHz CPUs to roll off the production line to be useful (drum roll/splash)
PCs are only starting to be able to compete in that market, which is why Sun, IBM, and HP still sell those types of machines.
And we all know what happened to the workstation market when PCs 'only started to compete' in that market. Dump your Sun stock ASAP. Now please excuse me while I go and bludgeon the E15K out the back with this Dell Inspiron laptop just to start to teach it some fucking respect. My 1GHz PIII laptop runs SAP, Oracle and Medal of Honor faster than that oversized piece of shit from Mountain View!
And can you swap CPU's, memory, IO-cards without shutting down the system?
I believe the x440 has hot-swappable PCI slots, memory slots, power supplies and hard drives. You can't hot-swap CPUs, but then again it's not Intel having all the headaches with the faulty L2 cache modules so the CPUs need to be swapped, is it? -drum roll/splash-.
(including the first safely hot-swappable Ethernet and VGA connectors)
Man, that's amazing! I've been trying to hotswap my RJ-45 cable and my D-SUB 15 VGA cable for months, but the damned things just won't fit! I did solder some wires once from the VGA-out port straight into my network hub, but I just blew up the hub. I'd be so grateful if you could forward some schematics or something of this Ethernet/VGA hotswap device.
No replacements will be forthcoming until energy is cheaper.
I believe the Americans and the British are working on that at the moment in Iraq...err I mean looking for weapons of ma...oh fuck it no they're not. Cheap supersonic travel for everyone on cheap Iraqi jet fuel!!!
people forget that Apple was footing almost the entire cost of the license, and leaving the cloners to collect all the profits.
You're right, I did forget that's the way it worked. Oh well...maybe they could try again one day with some more reasonable terms attached to the agreement, like splitting R&D costs or something. With Apple now using commodity technologies for so many things (USB, FireWire, PCI, AGP, DDR-SDRAM, Ethernet, 802.11 etc) maybe it wouldn't be prohibitive for both Apple to not have to hold the cloners by the hand and foot all the R&D costs, and also for cloners not to go bankrupt trying to produce a Mac compatible system by themselves from scratch.
And if y'all remember it didn't work out all that well, for Apple OR the clone makers, IIRC.
The problem was that it worked out a little too well for the consumers. Who knows what Apple is thinking these days...Mac OS X is really nice, but even their high end PowerMacs are well behind the x86 world. Maybe Steve has something shit-hot ready to release soon (maybe a PPC970 system) and isn't worried in the short term...or maybe he's just worn one turtleneck too many and Apple is doomed. I don't suppose we'll ever see clones again
I'm too lazy to read the damned article, but did this have anything to do with Apple? I thought the point of these PowerPC mobos was to run YellowDog Linux or something similar? How would Apple stop someone from building a system with a Motorola/IBM PowerPC chip? Of course this may be all explained in the article, but this is Slashdot
From the initial drawing on napkins in bars, Itanium was to replace PA-RISC and run HP-UX
That must have been a pretty exciting night out. I bet all the engineers scored that night. What woman can resist short-sleeve polyester shirts, HP employee badges, and Itanium CPU schematics scrawled across the back of a bar napkin. Fuck I'm getting horny just thinking about it and I'm normally an AMD man!
What the fuck is the deal with Scot McNealy's teeth? They reflect more light than the surface of the moon. Maybe if he kept his mouth shut Sun wouldn't be in such a mess. Hang on.....
There's an 80W mini-ITX power supply at www.computermarket.com.au, but they don't have any pictures of it, and there's no manufacturer's link. I'll take a look at the auspcmarket link though. My e-mail is amateur_ape@yahoo.com...I'd like to know how your project went and what you've done so far. I was thinking about a couple of other things for the Mac LC-II chassis, like stripping back a slot-loading DVD-ROM drive to fit it into the case.
I was thinking about taking some power tools to a Mac LCII that I fished out of a dumpster at work last week (it still works fine, btw) and trying to shoehorn one of these mini-ITX boards into it. I think there should be just enough vertical room if I hack the internals of the case enough. All I'd need to do would be extend the floppy slot to accommodate a slot-loading DVD, and cut out the back panel to accommodate the ITX ports. Anyone know where you can get slimline ATX power supplies in Australia?
I messed around with Mandrake 9.1 RC1 a few days ago, but it wasn't able to compile the NVidia drivers with the rpm --rebuild command. Something about the compiler version being used to build the kernel being different from that shipped with RC1? Has anyone had any success rebuiling the NVidia driver RPM on the actual release version of Mandrake 9.1?
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Jesus fucking Christ, this is Slashdot. How could we not?
is that pronounced mee-tree or mee-truh?
It's mee-ter. In English-speaking contries other than the U.S., there is no need to dumb down words to their phonetic spellings.
It's the most realistic shooter out there if thats what you mean by sucks...
More realistic than Operation Flashpoint?
Apple doesn't seem to have trouble devoting thousands of square metres of floor space to obsolete machines in their retail outlets. Maybe they can take some of the Museum's pieces. They'd just need to be careful that potential G4 tower customers didn't accidently buy the dusty old Atari 1040ST exhibit
[can't believe it's not butter voice]
"I can't believe it's not a G4!!!"
Thankyou.
I can get a emac 800Mgz/256MB/40GB for $849, and it comes with a monitor and better graphics, and the operating system
It looks like they're using G4 tower motherboards, which means AGP and PCI slots, and the processor plugged into a ZIF sockets. Plus, the thing comes in a standard looking tower case. All this means that you can upgrade it down the track with faster graphics cards, faster CPUs, easily add extra HDDs and optical drives, and niceties like SCSI and FireWire 800. You can't do that (easily) with an eMac.
I wouldn't ever buy a cheap eMac or an iMac because for your hard earned $$$'s, they're not very future proof. G4 towers are too far in the other direction...expandable, but too expensive (in Australia at least). The Core systems seem to be somewhere in between, which is very interesting (for me, at least). I can understand why people are getting excited.
Well, probably not so hot, considering that there are NO GAMES FOR THE MACINTOSH.
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
Quake III
Soldier of Fortune II
Sacrifice
SimCity 4
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
WarCraft III: The Frozen Throne
Ghost Recon
Jedi Knight II
No One Lives Forever
Master of Orion III
BloodRayne
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003
Max Payne
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Red Faction
etc
No...nothing much for the Mac.
It should be noted that MacOS X doesn't run as root (actually doesn't even have a root user),
Yes it does, it's just not enabled by default.
Maybe it is about time Australia just got rid of the senate altogether.
Yes, because our House of Representatives is filled with such fine, upstanding, honest folks. Now excuse me while I use my anti-terrorism kit to wipe my arse.
The Senate may go through periods of stupidity, but fuck me...imagine Howard/Costello without some type of occasional choke being applied.
From experiences on our own LAN, GroupWise is fucking awful. Our NetWare GroupWise server needs to be restarted several times a week, and the robustness of the IMAP support is a joke. I don't know if this is true for all GroupWise installations, or if it's just a local problem here, but things have taken a definite turn for the worse since we had it forced upon us about a year ago.
Don't cry...I have a 68881 FPU card for a Mac LC series sitting right here on my desk. You can run Autocad on that if you want.
Why would there be an app that would require a processor that doesn't exist?
I don't know, ask Sun...they're the ones who invented Java. It's still waiting for the first batch of 10GHz CPUs to roll off the production line to be useful (drum roll/splash)
"my 4.77MHZ XT with a 8087 FPU is all I'll ever need!"
Pfft. What the hell do you need floating point for? Java runs just fine on my XT.
PCs are only starting to be able to compete in that market, which is why Sun, IBM, and HP still sell those types of machines.
And we all know what happened to the workstation market when PCs 'only started to compete' in that market. Dump your Sun stock ASAP. Now please excuse me while I go and bludgeon the E15K out the back with this Dell Inspiron laptop just to start to teach it some fucking respect. My 1GHz PIII laptop runs SAP, Oracle and Medal of Honor faster than that oversized piece of shit from Mountain View!
And can you swap CPU's, memory, IO-cards without shutting down the system?
I believe the x440 has hot-swappable PCI slots, memory slots, power supplies and hard drives. You can't hot-swap CPUs, but then again it's not Intel having all the headaches with the faulty L2 cache modules so the CPUs need to be swapped, is it? -drum roll/splash-.
(including the first safely hot-swappable Ethernet and VGA connectors)
Man, that's amazing! I've been trying to hotswap my RJ-45 cable and my D-SUB 15 VGA cable for months, but the damned things just won't fit! I did solder some wires once from the VGA-out port straight into my network hub, but I just blew up the hub. I'd be so grateful if you could forward some schematics or something of this Ethernet/VGA hotswap device.
No replacements will be forthcoming until energy is cheaper.
I believe the Americans and the British are working on that at the moment in Iraq...err I mean looking for weapons of ma...oh fuck it no they're not. Cheap supersonic travel for everyone on cheap Iraqi jet fuel!!!
people forget that Apple was footing almost the entire cost of the license, and leaving the cloners to collect all the profits.
You're right, I did forget that's the way it worked. Oh well...maybe they could try again one day with some more reasonable terms attached to the agreement, like splitting R&D costs or something. With Apple now using commodity technologies for so many things (USB, FireWire, PCI, AGP, DDR-SDRAM, Ethernet, 802.11 etc) maybe it wouldn't be prohibitive for both Apple to not have to hold the cloners by the hand and foot all the R&D costs, and also for cloners not to go bankrupt trying to produce a Mac compatible system by themselves from scratch.
Or maybe not.
And if y'all remember it didn't work out all that well, for Apple OR the clone makers, IIRC.
The problem was that it worked out a little too well for the consumers. Who knows what Apple is thinking these days...Mac OS X is really nice, but even their high end PowerMacs are well behind the x86 world. Maybe Steve has something shit-hot ready to release soon (maybe a PPC970 system) and isn't worried in the short term...or maybe he's just worn one turtleneck too many and Apple is doomed. I don't suppose we'll ever see clones again
I'm too lazy to read the damned article, but did this have anything to do with Apple? I thought the point of these PowerPC mobos was to run YellowDog Linux or something similar? How would Apple stop someone from building a system with a Motorola/IBM PowerPC chip? Of course this may be all explained in the article, but this is Slashdot
I thought C# was supposed to do away with a lot of casting in everyday programming. oh FUCK
From the initial drawing on napkins in bars, Itanium was to replace PA-RISC and run HP-UX
That must have been a pretty exciting night out. I bet all the engineers scored that night. What woman can resist short-sleeve polyester shirts, HP employee badges, and Itanium CPU schematics scrawled across the back of a bar napkin. Fuck I'm getting horny just thinking about it and I'm normally an AMD man!
What the fuck is the deal with Scot McNealy's teeth? They reflect more light than the surface of the moon. Maybe if he kept his mouth shut Sun wouldn't be in such a mess. Hang on.....
There's an 80W mini-ITX power supply at www.computermarket.com.au, but they don't have any pictures of it, and there's no manufacturer's link. I'll take a look at the auspcmarket link though. My e-mail is amateur_ape@yahoo.com...I'd like to know how your project went and what you've done so far. I was thinking about a couple of other things for the Mac LC-II chassis, like stripping back a slot-loading DVD-ROM drive to fit it into the case.
I was thinking about taking some power tools to a Mac LCII that I fished out of a dumpster at work last week (it still works fine, btw) and trying to shoehorn one of these mini-ITX boards into it. I think there should be just enough vertical room if I hack the internals of the case enough. All I'd need to do would be extend the floppy slot to accommodate a slot-loading DVD, and cut out the back panel to accommodate the ITX ports. Anyone know where you can get slimline ATX power supplies in Australia?
I messed around with Mandrake 9.1 RC1 a few days ago, but it wasn't able to compile the NVidia drivers with the rpm --rebuild command. Something about the compiler version being used to build the kernel being different from that shipped with RC1? Has anyone had any success rebuiling the NVidia driver RPM on the actual release version of Mandrake 9.1?