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Though it does say something for the merits of Java development. The install was very smooth and the program started up without complaint.
Hmm... how come the Mac and Unix versions aren't available? How come they're different? Write Once Run Where?
It would be kinda cool if Netomat made some neat associations and seemed smarter, like an oracle with a memory as big as the net. Currently it looks just random, and is very frustrating to use.
I may be crazy, but I'm detecting a contradiction in the "Slashdot ideology":
Open Source is good, hiding code is bad
Privacy is good, having others see what you do is bad
I mean, I thought information wanted to be free? Or doesn't that include information about what you do?
OK, I don't think it's good if the government or big corporations or crazy lunatics use information about me to harm me. But isn't that what laws are for?
By analogy, isn't it our judicial system that allows the GPL (and more lenient copyright-based licenses) to make software truly free?
And doesn't it bother anyone that all this cool information flowing around should be inaccessible? I mean, it's nobody's business how many times I visit whitehouse.com, but I don't know, maybe there just might be some valid use for that information. I feel, in the spirit of openness and convenience, that most things shouldn't be hidden.
I'm scared of the police like anyone, but I feel that it's better and more productive to have laws that try to make sure the police behaves, rather than try to fight them (I know I'll lose).
The only person I trust with my education is me. The only person I trust with my defense is me. The only person I trust with my transportation is me. The only person I trust with my health and safety is me.
I agree that we should have a healthy distrust about government, but it seems to me we do rely on it, whether we like it or not. And the only realistic hope is to make it better, not get rid of it. (BLEAT OFF)
OK, every government spies on its and other people. This is a problem only if it is abused.
So what we need is effective safeguards against abuse. Acknowledge that spying will happen no matter what, but make it accountable.
The fact that the government could be spying on me RIGHT NOW, in my conversations on the phone for example, doesn't make me lose sleep. I haven't seen a lot of demonstrations by concerned citizens saying this has to stop now. If I had something to hide I'd find a way to hide it, and I don't mind if stupid criminals get caught by this process. Basically, I trust the government with this, partly because I have to and partly because I always have. I don't see why, just because there's a new technology that could shut out spying, we should use it that way.
There was a thread about this a few months ago, prompted by an interview with David Brin. Basically he says there's a problem and an opportunity. The problem is that with new technologies, privacy is threatened (as it always has been, in one way or another). The opportunity is what he calls "two way transparency" -- make sure the spies can be spied upon.
We know the value of Open Source -- similarly there's value in an Open Society. Neither of which prohibits the proprietary/privacy -- it just makes more sense to be Open.
Star Trek was earlier, with adventures based on parables, philosophical thought experiments, moral questioning and not much emphasis on special effects.
I'm talking about the Star Trek I saw as a kid in the 70s, in few and far-between trips to the US.
http://www.fete-internet.asso.fr/prog/prog.asp www.fete-internet.asso.fr is running Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT4 or Windows 98
From the "Fiesta" press release:
DIRECTORATE GENERAL XIII - Telecommunications, Information Market and Exploitation of Research:
"IS Day Europe 99 is a major awareness campaign aimed at the European public with the objective of having a long term effect on their perception, interest for, and use of information and communication services, technologies, and applications, that are shaping the Information Society."
I think maybe you would look like dorks to me if I knew you. As it is, you seem like pretty hip computer or whatever types whose picture will inspire me for a few days as I stare at Windoze...
Though it does say something for the merits of Java development. The install was very smooth and the program started up without complaint.
Hmm... how come the Mac and Unix versions aren't available? How come they're different? Write Once Run Where?
It would be kinda cool if Netomat made some neat associations and seemed smarter, like an oracle with a memory as big as the net. Currently it looks just random, and is very frustrating to use.
You mussed?
I may be crazy, but I'm detecting a contradiction in the "Slashdot ideology":
- Open Source is good, hiding code is bad
- Privacy is good, having others see what you do is bad
I mean, I thought information wanted to be free? Or doesn't that include information about what you do?OK, I don't think it's good if the government or big corporations or crazy lunatics use information about me to harm me. But isn't that what laws are for?
By analogy, isn't it our judicial system that allows the GPL (and more lenient copyright-based licenses) to make software truly free?
And doesn't it bother anyone that all this cool information flowing around should be inaccessible? I mean, it's nobody's business how many times I visit whitehouse.com, but I don't know, maybe there just might be some valid use for that information. I feel, in the spirit of openness and convenience, that most things shouldn't be hidden.
I'm scared of the police like anyone, but I feel that it's better and more productive to have laws that try to make sure the police behaves, rather than try to fight them (I know I'll lose).
Or maybe I'm crazy.
Let's see how that maps in other spheres...
The only person I trust with my education is me.
The only person I trust with my defense is me.
The only person I trust with my transportation is me.
The only person I trust with my health and safety is me.
I agree that we should have a healthy distrust about government, but it seems to me we do rely on it, whether we like it or not. And the only realistic hope is to make it better, not get rid of it. (BLEAT OFF)
OK, every government spies on its and other people. This is a problem only if it is abused.
So what we need is effective safeguards against abuse. Acknowledge that spying will happen no matter what, but make it accountable.
The fact that the government could be spying on me RIGHT NOW, in my conversations on the phone for example, doesn't make me lose sleep. I haven't seen a lot of demonstrations by concerned citizens saying this has to stop now. If I had something to hide I'd find a way to hide it, and I don't mind if stupid criminals get caught by this process. Basically, I trust the government with this, partly because I have to and partly because I always have. I don't see why, just because there's a new technology that could shut out spying, we should use it that way.
There was a thread about this a few months ago, prompted by an interview with David Brin. Basically he says there's a problem and an opportunity. The problem is that with new technologies, privacy is threatened (as it always has been, in one way or another). The opportunity is what he calls "two way transparency" -- make sure the spies can be spied upon.
We know the value of Open Source -- similarly there's value in an Open Society. Neither of which prohibits the proprietary/privacy -- it just makes more sense to be Open.
This seems like yet another overextension of the term.
Star Trek was earlier, with adventures based on parables, philosophical thought experiments, moral questioning and not much emphasis on special effects.
I'm talking about the Star Trek I saw as a kid in the 70s, in few and far-between trips to the US.
I read it 18 years ago in my first year in college.
Ever since, I don't know whether I should be grateful or hateful to Hofstadter for this.
It would be nice to push the score of your message up, but I don't know how or am not allowed to.
http://www.fete-internet.asso.fr/prog/prog.asp
www.fete-internet.asso.fr is running Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT4 or Windows 98
From the "Fiesta" press release:
DIRECTORATE GENERAL XIII - Telecommunications, Information Market and Exploitation of Research:
"IS Day Europe 99 is a major awareness campaign aimed at the European public with the objective of having a long term effect on their perception, interest for, and use of information and communication services, technologies, and applications, that are shaping the Information Society."
That's European for "party hard"
® U serious?
Why do I think I've already read this weeks ago?
It's kinda dull anyway: they say nobody's going to get incredibly rich with OSS -- do we care?
I think maybe you would look like dorks to me if I knew you. As it is, you seem like pretty hip computer or whatever types whose picture will inspire me for a few days as I stare at Windoze...