My university is accredited. The University of Waterloo is absent because the above acredidation programs are limited to the US and Waterloo is in Canada as the article mentioned.. Your original post, while somewhat interesting, was not relevent to the story so I'm not really sure what kind of point you are trying to make, but if it makes you feel better, go ahead and keep pasting urls and making nonsensical statements to your hearts desire.
Quoting from the article which I have read, and apprently you have not: "Completion of this course will be mandatory for students entering the E&CE program."
Yes.. the course was mandatory before.. they are changing "some mandatory course using c++" to "some mandatory course using c#" much like the university I attend changed "data structures in pascal" to "data structures in java"
Because your college is not accredited? It's a community collge limited to associates degrees? You are in a country other than the United States, which currently leads the world in software and other engineering, precisely because of the standards enforced by its institutes of higher education? Stop me if I'm getting close...
Well you're not even close but you are horribly wrong so feel free to stop whenever.
Well if you do in fact go there, you'd know that they didn't sell out their curriculum to microsoft, they just changed 1 class that was already mandatory and taught in c++ to c#.
Switching schools is hardly a reasonable option for someone that's already here, though I would consider it if it happened in CS and not just CompEng.
No you wouldn't.. you're just talking a big game because this is/. Everyone knows going into a program at Waterloo that they will mostly likely have an easy chance at getting at job at MS.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Apple ever gave money to a school to mandate that students study Apple-proprietary technology.
Giving schools free computers and bribing faculty and staff with cheap/free computers for personal use accomplishes the same thing.. Apple is after all a hardware company.
It's interesting to see that the U of Waterloo is endorsing a pure language course as a program entry requirement; I would not like to be standing near the fan when the accreditation committee gets a hold of this (though I'm not adverse to turning the fan on by telling them).
Thats not what they are doing at all.. read the article.. they are switching "some introductory level course using c++" to "some introductory course using c#" Its not even a new class.. this anti microsoft stuff is totally unwarrented in this case..
Not to mention that this is not totally true
Back in the early 1980's, there was a change in the accreditation rules which stated that a College or University could not teach a specific computer language and remain accredited
Otherwise why would my college teach a class called c and a class called c++ and a class called visual basic.
I've got a suggestion for the people in Redmond. If you want to give "innovation" to academia publish the source code to Microsoft products for academic study.
like they already do? anyone at a decent college can get access to the source for microsoft products..
I wish people would stop saying that.. there is nothing wrong with being a monopoly.. hell most monopolies are gov't sponsored and the fact that they violated anti-trust laws in the US has very little to do with whether or not some canadian school decides to take a million dollars for a class they probably would have taught anyway.
Catering services at large institutions often sign large exclusive contracts (at my campus, it was Sodexo, I think). It mostly came into play for outside events (aka, student union rented out for whatever special event).
Same here.. sodexho is the devils catering service.. we can't even have pizza at our acm meetings unless we sneak it in or pay for shitty cafeteria sodexho pizza.
Hate to be the one to hit you with the clue stick, but not so extreme examples of this have been happening for years and it isn't going to stop anytime soon.
Cisco paid my highschool a million dollars and gave them shitloads of hardware to teach cisco classes and they've done the same for several junior colleges and schools all over, you don't see anyone complaining about that.
I think you could perhaps construct a google track which recursively linked back to your site so that it would appear that it was linked to a lot of times..
if you borrow the max which is like 3 grand for a freshmen and your parents kick in the estimated family contribution and that still doesnt come close to the tutition amount, it is fairly easy to cover the difference with grants and scholarships, esp. if you are the caliber of student that goes to mit. If you are extremely poor or your parents are its even easier.. I know several people who are basically paid to attend college because their estimated family contribution is nearly zero so they get first dibs on map granps and various other free monies that universities are forced to give out.. not sure how it is in every state, but this is pretty consistant with IL and several other states where I know people.
You obviously don't understand how the whole financial aid system works if you think that money comes from the students.. at most pricey universities, a huge proportion of the students pay very little of their tutition.. the rest is made up from scholarships and grants. The part you are expected to pay is your estimated family contribution, the rest can easily be gotten through grants and financial aid if you understand how to work the system.
A linux website comparing a linux install to a windows one and saying the linux one was easier, who would a guessed?
Mean while, back in the real world, its obvious to most anyone outside of the linux drum beating zealots that windows really is easier to install and a lot more tolerant of errors than every linux distro out there.
Remember that when X was first invented, your average Unix workstation was less powerful than today's PDAs (permanent storage and display size aside). I don't think it's too much overhead.
True, but the reply you're flaming was making the point that HP makes more than printers so boycotting their printers isn't going to really hurt them.. its some what of an economic principal that a company will divert production towards products that are selling better so if you boycott their printers they'll just build more something elses.. Please remove your head from your anus.
.[SPEAKING OF dictionaries: someone told me that the 1st Edition of Merriam-Webster's Dictionary was edited by a tenant of an insane asylum. Can anyone confirm/refute this as truth/myth?]
Something like that.. read The Professor and the Madman by Simon Winchester.
The major detractor was the user interface, since it didn't feel like a Windows application. This was probably due to a poor understanding by the authors of XUL.
Sometimes you can blame the tool and not the user, and this is one of those cases. Not only does it not "feel" like a Windows application, it doesn't "feel" like an application native to any particular OS. Whether or not the authors understand XUL is pretty irrelevant, but I'm sure they have at least a basic understanding and are still willing to unforgive the horrible interface of mozilla.
The fact that several of the sub projects under the mozilla domain are dedicated to either making a new browser to use the gecko rendering engine or to making new UI's that work with the existing mozilla framework is a pretty good idea that most people don't like the UI of mozilla as it stands.
haha.. i'd find you citations, but its pretty pointless when this stuff is covered in business law 101 at most universities. As for how the laws are in canada, I can't say.
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My university is accredited. The University of Waterloo is absent because the above acredidation programs are limited to the US and Waterloo is in Canada as the article mentioned.. Your original post, while somewhat interesting, was not relevent to the story so I'm not really sure what kind of point you are trying to make, but if it makes you feel better, go ahead and keep pasting urls and making nonsensical statements to your hearts desire.
Quoting from the article which I have read, and apprently you have not: "Completion of this course will be mandatory for students entering the E&CE program."
Yes.. the course was mandatory before.. they are changing "some mandatory course using c++" to "some mandatory course using c#" much like the university I attend changed "data structures in pascal" to "data structures in java"
Because your college is not accredited? It's a community collge limited to associates degrees? You are in a country other than the United States, which currently leads the world in software and other engineering, precisely because of the standards enforced by its institutes of higher education? Stop me if I'm getting close...
Well you're not even close but you are horribly wrong so feel free to stop whenever.
Well if you do in fact go there, you'd know that they didn't sell out their curriculum to microsoft, they just changed 1 class that was already mandatory and taught in c++ to c#.
/. Everyone knows going into a program at Waterloo that they will mostly likely have an easy chance at getting at job at MS.
Switching schools is hardly a reasonable option for someone that's already here, though I would consider it if it happened in CS and not just CompEng.
No you wouldn't.. you're just talking a big game because this is
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Apple ever gave money to a school to mandate that students study Apple-proprietary technology.
Giving schools free computers and bribing faculty and staff with cheap/free computers for personal use accomplishes the same thing.. Apple is after all a hardware company.
It's interesting to see that the U of Waterloo is endorsing a pure language course as a program entry requirement; I would not like to be standing near the fan when the accreditation committee gets a hold of this (though I'm not adverse to turning the fan on by telling them).
Thats not what they are doing at all.. read the article.. they are switching "some introductory level course using c++" to "some introductory course using c#" Its not even a new class.. this anti microsoft stuff is totally unwarrented in this case..
Not to mention that this is not totally true
Back in the early 1980's, there was a change in the accreditation rules which stated that a College or University could not teach a specific computer language and remain accredited
Otherwise why would my college teach a class called c and a class called c++ and a class called visual basic.
I've got a suggestion for the people in Redmond. If you want to give "innovation" to academia publish the source code to Microsoft products for academic study.
like they already do? anyone at a decent college can get access to the source for microsoft products..
but a convicted monopoly,
I wish people would stop saying that..
there is nothing wrong with being a monopoly.. hell most monopolies are gov't sponsored and the fact that they violated anti-trust laws in the US has very little to do with whether or not some canadian school decides to take a million dollars for a class they probably would have taught anyway.
Goals of a typical student
1. Pass classes with a decent mark.
2. Beer.
3. Pay back student loans.
4. ???
5. Profit!!
Catering services at large institutions often sign large exclusive contracts (at my campus, it was Sodexo, I think). It mostly came into play for outside events (aka, student union rented out for whatever special event).
Same here.. sodexho is the devils catering service.. we can't even have pizza at our acm meetings unless we sneak it in or pay for shitty cafeteria sodexho pizza.
Hate to be the one to hit you with the clue stick, but not so extreme examples of this have been happening for years and it isn't going to stop anytime soon.
Cisco paid my highschool a million dollars and gave them shitloads of hardware to teach cisco classes and they've done the same for several junior colleges and schools all over, you don't see anyone complaining about that.
they should work those links into the bottom of those cut and paste quiz results that are so popular on livejournal..
Create a well-designed, easy-to-use web site that follows accessibility and useability guidelines.
Fill the web site with useful, relevant information on a selection of topics.
Make sure the information is kept up to date, and don't let it become stale.
Allow this web site to become popular and authoritative, so lots of people link to it and reference it.
?????
Profit!!!
I think you could perhaps construct a google track which recursively linked back to your site so that it would appear that it was linked to a lot of times..
if you borrow the max which is like 3 grand for a freshmen and your parents kick in the estimated family contribution and that still doesnt come close to the tutition amount, it is fairly easy to cover the difference with grants and scholarships, esp. if you are the caliber of student that goes to mit. If you are extremely poor or your parents are its even easier.. I know several people who are basically paid to attend college because their estimated family contribution is nearly zero so they get first dibs on map granps and various other free monies that universities are forced to give out.. not sure how it is in every state, but this is pretty consistant with IL and several other states where I know people.
You obviously don't understand how the whole financial aid system works if you think that money comes from the students.. at most pricey universities, a huge proportion of the students pay very little of their tutition.. the rest is made up from scholarships and grants. The part you are expected to pay is your estimated family contribution, the rest can easily be gotten through grants and financial aid if you understand how to work the system.
you seriously don't know what you are talking about.. just give it up..
Buy one in Jamaica, they are about 1/2 the price there.
A linux website comparing a linux install to a windows one and saying the linux one was easier, who would a guessed?
Mean while, back in the real world, its obvious to most anyone outside of the linux drum beating zealots that windows really is easier to install and a lot more tolerant of errors than every linux distro out there.
cheap, except the broadband adapters still get something like $150 off ebay..
Remember that when X was first invented, your average Unix workstation was less powerful than today's PDAs (permanent storage and display size aside). I don't think it's too much overhead.
except over the years X got huge and bloated..
True, but the reply you're flaming was making the point that HP makes more than printers so boycotting their printers isn't going to really hurt them.. its some what of an economic principal that a company will divert production towards products that are selling better so if you boycott their printers they'll just build more something elses.. Please remove your head from your anus.
.[SPEAKING OF dictionaries: someone told me that the 1st Edition of Merriam-Webster's Dictionary was edited by a tenant of an insane asylum. Can anyone confirm/refute this as truth/myth?]
Something like that.. read The Professor and the Madman by Simon Winchester.
The major detractor was the user interface, since it didn't feel like a Windows application. This was probably due to a poor understanding by the authors of XUL.
Sometimes you can blame the tool and not the user, and this is one of those cases. Not only does it not "feel" like a Windows application, it doesn't "feel" like an application native to any particular OS. Whether or not the authors understand XUL is pretty irrelevant, but I'm sure they have at least a basic understanding and are still willing to unforgive the horrible interface of mozilla.
The fact that several of the sub projects under the mozilla domain are dedicated to either making a new browser to use the gecko rendering engine or to making new UI's that work with the existing mozilla framework is a pretty good idea that most people don't like the UI of mozilla as it stands.
haha.. i'd find you citations, but its pretty pointless when this stuff is covered in business law 101 at most universities. As for how the laws are in canada, I can't say.