No, it's OK, I'm personally not offended. And it's not so much that you took a shot at Christianity as it is that you took a shot at that wonderful pagan holiday Christmas, man. People get a little unhinged when they hear the validity of Frosty and Rudolph called into question.
BTW, your Boss Ebenezer called. He says you're fired.:-)
Nor do I think the original poster was trying to be offensive. But come on, you have to admit that if you start taking potshots at the Little Drummer Boy, some Shiite Baptist from Dallas is going to build up a full head of steam.:-)
I can't figure out if you're referencing Luke Skywalker or the Doctor, since Ender and Khan merely destroyed planets, while the Monolith creators made a star. Or are you talking about Arthur C Clarke's short story, "the Star?" Both the Vorlons and the Ancients were rumored to be working on this, but never got it done.
OK, I bow to your superior Geek cred. Who blew up a star?
The airport claimed they didn't do it, citing they the machines did not have a printer. CNN proved they did have a print capability. The only one caught in a lie so far is the airport spokesman.
"That requirement leaves open the possibility the machines -- which can see beneath people's clothing -- can be abused by TSA insiders and hacked by outsiders, said EPIC Executive Director Marc Rotenberg," according to the report.
"If you look at the actual technical specifications and you read the vendor contracts, you come to understand that these machines are capable of doing far more than the TSA has let on," added Rotenberg.
Indeed, if there is no capability for the devices to save, distribute and print images, then how on earth have news organizations obtained print outs of such images like the one below?
Bollywood movie star Shah Rukh Khan full-body scan has already been leaked to the public. Contrary to previous assurances, the actor's scans were not kept anonymous, were not destroyed, and were released into the hands of fans before he even got out of the airport. The actor, somewhat shocked when presented with naked pictures of himself by a couple of girls, remained in remarkably good humor and even autographed the printouts.
"'Then I saw these girls -- they had these printouts. I looked at them. I thought they were some forms you had to fill. I said 'give them to me' -- and you could see everything inside. So I autographed them for them.' said Khan."
If your lectures are so bad you have to force students to attend, then maybe you should spend more time honing your teaching skills and less time on the Draconian tracking systems.
Ever notice how certain professors on campus have to turn floods of students away each semester?
No, scratch that, I think I actually am. If admitting you have a problem is the first step, then let's go ahead and just admit that the FCC is utterly useless. I've got a few dozen dead miners' ghosts who'd like to talk about the uselessness of OSHA, and the line of people who would like to talk about the toothlessness of the EPA begins in Galveston and is expected to run through Pensacola.
The plutocracy we currently have is exactly a dictatorship of the rich. I've been fighting the good fight since before Reagan and it has been a flood of crap from James Watt through Glenn Beck. It has been one long slide down and back.
The Bill of Rights stands in tatters. We measure our national debt in trillions. We're so deeply in bed with various murderous dictators around the world I can't even say the words "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave" with a straight face any more. We're torturing prisoners. Our cops are shooting unarmed, handcuffed, face-down pleading men in the back. Texas has disappeared Thomas Jefferson from their civics curriculum. We're so afraid of terrorists we think strip-searching everyone is a good idea. I routinely, day in and day out, hear my fellow citizens argue that women with terminal breast cancer should be left to die in the street, and that only children who can afford it should have access to health care.
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave? I don't even recognize my country any more. We've become a small, cowardly people with no heart, and the justifiable laughingstock of the civilized world.
So in my darker moments, Bruce, yeah, every so often I'm tempted to say "Frack it. Give 'em what they want." America didn't quit smoking until pretty much everyone knew at least one close friend or family member who died hacking up bloody bits of lung cancer in the 70s. Maybe that's what it's gonna take for us to learn. Maybe when someone in every family has been left to die of a curable disease in the gutter, maybe when real unemployment hits 50 percent and stays there, maybe when we go back to the bad old days of Dickens' worst dream, maybe then we'll wake up and start to deal with these issues.
And then I see my kids, and I see their future, and I ease off the "Lethal Weapon" Martin Riggs crazy throttle.
*END RANT*
No, Bruce, I'm not serious. Yes, Bruce, I would dearly love to see the FCC rediscover their mandate and begin fighting the good fight. But if the choice is the FCC as a telco sock puppet, or no FCC at all...
"He suggested that all 80 million acres (320,000 km) of undeveloped land in the United States be opened for drilling and mining in the year 2000.[6] The area leased to coal mining companies quintupled during his term as Secretary of the Interior.[6] Watt proudly boasted that he leased "a billion acres" (4 million km) of U.S. coastal waters, even though only a small portion of that area would ever be drilled.[6] Watt once stated, "We will mine more, drill more, cut more timber."[7]
Watt periodically mentioned his Christian faith when discussing his approach to environmental management. Speaking before Congress, he once said, "I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns, whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations."[8]"
Now, I am a Christian -- God loves you, Jesus died for your sins, believe and be saved -- but to suggest that the impending Rapture will eliminate the need for environmental protection is... a big burlap sack of insanity.
And it got worse:
"During a March 1991 dinner event organized by the Green River Cattlemen's Association in Wyoming, Watt said, "If the troubles from environmentalists cannot be solved in the jury box or at the ballot box, perhaps the cartridge box should be used."[25][26]"
And finally got indicted:
"In 1995, Watt was indicted on 25 counts of felony perjury and obstruction of justice by a federal grand jury.[23] The indictments were due to false statements made to a grand jury investigating influence peddling at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, which he had lobbied in the mid to late 1980s."
Of course, Watt was just echoing his boss's views:
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." -- Ronald Reagan, 1981.
And Bush just dusted off the old ideas:
"In a 2001 interview, Watt applauded the Bush administration energy strategy and said its prioritization of oil drilling and coal mining above conservation is just what he recommended in the early 1980s.[27] "Everything Cheney's saying, everything the president's saying - they're saying exactly what we were saying 20 years ago, precisely... Twenty years later, it sounds like they've just dusted off the old work."[27"
Hmm. Have you noticed any issues with our coal mining and off-shore drilling lately?
Seriously. It's better to have an open, above-board policy that says "We do not regulate this," than an agency that supposedly regulates it but doesn't.
We haven't had effective government regulation of anything since Ronald Reagan. As I sit here, Exxon has yet to pay for or clean up the Valdez oil spill, and BP just destroyed the Gulf of Mexico from Houston to Pensacola because a standard emergency valve was "too expensive."
I'd just as soon drop the pretense. There's no such thing as "government regulation" any more.
I'm here to tell you it's not happening, and it is a problem.
From the officers who deserted their post to join the looting in Katrina to the incident that happened yesterday where two law enforcement officers robbed a convenience store and attacked the clerk while flashing their badges:
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/officers-accused-of-crossing-the-line "HARTLAND TOWNSHIP, Mich. - Clerks who work at a Clyde Road gas station are forced to dial 911 after two police officers allegedly lost control. They are accused of doing everything from stealing pizza and punching a clerk to posing as Homeland Security.... There were plenty of witnesses, including an off-duty Livingston County deputy, who happened to be getting gas at the time and tried to intervene."
No charges have been filed. Neither LEO has been arrested. They've been clearly identified from the videotape and the testimony of a sheriff's deputy. Robbery. Assault. Using the badge to facilitate the robbery. DUI. All of it documented on tape and by eyewitness LEO testimony. The deputy saw it, and did not arrest his fellow LEOs, apparently deciding the extent of his duty was to merely try to persuade his fellow LEOs not to commit felonies.
Tell me again how it's just a few bad apples.
Oh, right, these are just ordinary people asked to do extraordinary things, so we have to expect this kind of behavior. That's odd, because I grew up in a world where randomly drafted 18-year-old kids were expected to maintain discipline even after they'd been shot and bullets were still flying.
Special legal status and protection. Endless training. Uniforms. Partners and Radios. Body armor. Backup. Souped-up armored hotrods. Chemical spray. Batons. Swithblades. Tasers. Guns. License to use dealy force with the assumption your use of violence was justified.
But somehow, even with all of those advantages, we're still supposed to think, "Well, they're just human, we should expect bad behavior from time to time."
Funny, I was always taught that mistakes are understandable right up to the point that a firearm enters the room, and that when a bullet is present, there are no more "accidents."
But hey, because a few Catholic priests turned out to be heinous pedophiles, we shouldn't indict the entire Catholic clergy. Actually, when you find evidence that the Pope himself shielded child molesters, that's pretty much exactly what you should do, because the Vatican knew of the abuse, and became accomplices by protecting pedophiles from being called to account.
Few bad apples, few bad apples, I keep hearing this phrase, "Just a few bad apples," and that's strange because the whole saying is that "A few bad apples spoils the bunch."
How many more bad apples do you need before you concede the problem is systemic?
As someone who's been shoveling out the abuse on this topic, let me explain.
What an Officer of the Law is supposed to be, is a wonderful thing.
What they have allowed themselves to become, as an institution, breaks my heart. I listen to them in their own words over at the forums on "Officer.com," and the constant stream of comments about "dumb-ass sheeple," how the civilians can go frack themselves because "I'M GOING HOME TONIGHT," and the non-stop jokes they make about how they abused the badge and broke the law for their own amusement makes me ill.
I work the security side of the fence. I listen to a lot of cops talk. Some of them should be under indictment by their own words. More aren't worthy of the badge. The few who are trying to do the right thing are cowed into submission.
One of the guys I know with left the force after an incident where a child was shot because one of the officers lost control of his temper. Enough alcohol had pried his tongue loose one night. When I asked him why he didn't testify against about what he saw, why he went along with the "official" story, he angrily told me I didn't understand how things work. The guilt is eating this guy alive.
He trusted me with this horrible story. And I can't look him in the eye any more, because I know that not only did he let a child's murderer walk, but he actually helped that filth escape justice. Which makes him an accomplice in the murder of a child.
Your problem is that I'm not the only guy with a story like this. Consider the audience on this board. We're a bunch of pretty mild geeks -- and even a bunch of engineers can't stand the police any more.
You problem isn't a bunch of "cop haters," Moridineas. Your problem is that the police have made their reputation, and are justly suffering for it.
Look, Kramerd, I've been pretty hard on you tonight, and I apologize. I'm sure your Dad is a cop, and you look up to him, and wanna defend him, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Well, let's just say the other men who carry guns in uniform lose respect for you. And the sheeple, oh my, well the sheeple do truly horrible things.
They start voting against you on juries.
So do me a favor. Go tell your Dad that if he and his little buddies can't get their act together, then We the People are about to introduce them to the wonderful world of private security, where they can make almost a whole eight dollars an hour.:-)
Peters hopefully has learned not to give police officers a reason to beat him.... It simply means that since the criminal (he was convicted, remember) was being a criminal in english, that he probably wasn't trying to smuggle anything over the mexican border at that time.
Dude, seriously? Let me guess. You're mall security waiting to hear back from the department on your test results? Got a whole closet full of badges and uniforms you like to try on in front of the mirror late at night when no one's watching, do you? Got the whole "You talkin' to me?" speech in flawless De Niro accent down cold, huh?
The purpose is to remind officers and citizens of the spirit, dedication, and professionalism of the police force.
'Cause God knows we're not gonna see any of that outside of the motto.
Really, Kramerd, you can tell your boys to rest easy in the squad car seats that have molded themselves to their hindquarters. We're a military family, and if I need to whistle up some help from the angry avenging terrifying Wrath of God, I'll call our women.:-)
No, they apologized for the inconvenience, remember?
Hi Phrogman,
No, it's OK, I'm personally not offended. And it's not so much that you took a shot at Christianity as it is that you took a shot at that wonderful pagan holiday Christmas, man. People get a little unhinged when they hear the validity of Frosty and Rudolph called into question.
BTW, your Boss Ebenezer called. He says you're fired. :-)
My local cable company hasn't played the series that far for me yet. Thanks.
Nor do I think the original poster was trying to be offensive. But come on, you have to admit that if you start taking potshots at the Little Drummer Boy, some Shiite Baptist from Dallas is going to build up a full head of steam. :-)
I miss Molly Ivins.
The second-most popular Christmas story after Santa Claus was nonsense PR spin?
Gee, why leave it half done? Got any gay porn starring Mohammed you'd like to post? :-)
I can't figure out if you're referencing Luke Skywalker or the Doctor, since Ender and Khan merely destroyed planets, while the Monolith creators made a star. Or are you talking about Arthur C Clarke's short story, "the Star?" Both the Vorlons and the Ancients were rumored to be working on this, but never got it done.
OK, I bow to your superior Geek cred. Who blew up a star?
The airport claimed they didn't do it, citing they the machines did not have a printer. CNN proved they did have a print capability. The only one caught in a lie so far is the airport spokesman.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/scannergate-facts-contradict-heathrow-claim-that-naked-images-cant-be-printed.html
"However, leaked government documents obtained by the Electronic Privacy Information Center and confirmed as authentic by CNN show that the devices must have the ability to store and send images when in "test mode."
"That requirement leaves open the possibility the machines -- which can see beneath people's clothing -- can be abused by TSA insiders and hacked by outsiders, said EPIC Executive Director Marc Rotenberg," according to the report.
"If you look at the actual technical specifications and you read the vendor contracts, you come to understand that these machines are capable of doing far more than the TSA has let on," added Rotenberg.
Indeed, if there is no capability for the devices to save, distribute and print images, then how on earth have news organizations obtained print outs of such images like the one below?
*picture shown*"
Bollywood movie star Shah Rukh Khan full-body scan has already been leaked to the public. Contrary to previous assurances, the actor's scans were not kept anonymous, were not destroyed, and were released into the hands of fans before he even got out of the airport. The actor, somewhat shocked when presented with naked pictures of himself by a couple of girls, remained in remarkably good humor and even autographed the printouts.
"'Then I saw these girls -- they had these printouts. I looked at them. I thought they were some forms you had to fill. I said 'give them to me' -- and you could see everything inside. So I autographed them for them.' said Khan."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/10/shah-rukh-khan-claims-nak_n_457200.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/exposed-naked-body-scanner-images-of-film-star-printed-circulated.html
Certainly, not every student is going to make it.
But if it takes an electronic leash to fill your classroom, you're doing it wrong. :-)
If your lectures are so bad you have to force students to attend, then maybe you should spend more time honing your teaching skills and less time on the Draconian tracking systems.
Ever notice how certain professors on campus have to turn floods of students away each semester?
Tone
Apologies
See my reply to Bruce below. :-)
Hyperbole
Irony
No, I'm not serious.
*BEGIN EMOTIONAL AND FRUSTRATED RANT*
No, scratch that, I think I actually am. If admitting you have a problem is the first step, then let's go ahead and just admit that the FCC is utterly useless. I've got a few dozen dead miners' ghosts who'd like to talk about the uselessness of OSHA, and the line of people who would like to talk about the toothlessness of the EPA begins in Galveston and is expected to run through Pensacola.
The plutocracy we currently have is exactly a dictatorship of the rich. I've been fighting the good fight since before Reagan and it has been a flood of crap from James Watt through Glenn Beck. It has been one long slide down and back.
The Bill of Rights stands in tatters. We measure our national debt in trillions. We're so deeply in bed with various murderous dictators around the world I can't even say the words "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave" with a straight face any more. We're torturing prisoners. Our cops are shooting unarmed, handcuffed, face-down pleading men in the back. Texas has disappeared Thomas Jefferson from their civics curriculum. We're so afraid of terrorists we think strip-searching everyone is a good idea. I routinely, day in and day out, hear my fellow citizens argue that women with terminal breast cancer should be left to die in the street, and that only children who can afford it should have access to health care.
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave? I don't even recognize my country any more. We've become a small, cowardly people with no heart, and the justifiable laughingstock of the civilized world.
So in my darker moments, Bruce, yeah, every so often I'm tempted to say "Frack it. Give 'em what they want." America didn't quit smoking until pretty much everyone knew at least one close friend or family member who died hacking up bloody bits of lung cancer in the 70s. Maybe that's what it's gonna take for us to learn. Maybe when someone in every family has been left to die of a curable disease in the gutter, maybe when real unemployment hits 50 percent and stays there, maybe when we go back to the bad old days of Dickens' worst dream, maybe then we'll wake up and start to deal with these issues.
And then I see my kids, and I see their future, and I ease off the "Lethal Weapon" Martin Riggs crazy throttle.
*END RANT*
No, Bruce, I'm not serious. Yes, Bruce, I would dearly love to see the FCC rediscover their mandate and begin fighting the good fight. But if the choice is the FCC as a telco sock puppet, or no FCC at all...
I can't say I'd miss them.
Yeah, Schwarzenegger's a lot of things, but outright stupid was never one of them. :-)
...that was James Gaius Watt, U.S. Secretary of the Interior under President Ronald Reagan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_G._Watt
"He suggested that all 80 million acres (320,000 km) of undeveloped land in the United States be opened for drilling and mining in the year 2000.[6] The area leased to coal mining companies quintupled during his term as Secretary of the Interior.[6] Watt proudly boasted that he leased "a billion acres" (4 million km) of U.S. coastal waters, even though only a small portion of that area would ever be drilled.[6] Watt once stated, "We will mine more, drill more, cut more timber."[7]
Watt periodically mentioned his Christian faith when discussing his approach to environmental management. Speaking before Congress, he once said, "I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns, whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations."[8]"
Now, I am a Christian -- God loves you, Jesus died for your sins, believe and be saved -- but to suggest that the impending Rapture will eliminate the need for environmental protection is ... a big burlap sack of insanity.
And it got worse:
"During a March 1991 dinner event organized by the Green River Cattlemen's Association in Wyoming, Watt said, "If the troubles from environmentalists cannot be solved in the jury box or at the ballot box, perhaps the cartridge box should be used."[25][26]"
And finally got indicted:
"In 1995, Watt was indicted on 25 counts of felony perjury and obstruction of justice by a federal grand jury.[23] The indictments were due to false statements made to a grand jury investigating influence peddling at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, which he had lobbied in the mid to late 1980s."
Of course, Watt was just echoing his boss's views:
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." -- Ronald Reagan, 1981.
And Bush just dusted off the old ideas:
"In a 2001 interview, Watt applauded the Bush administration energy strategy and said its prioritization of oil drilling and coal mining above conservation is just what he recommended in the early 1980s.[27] "Everything Cheney's saying, everything the president's saying - they're saying exactly what we were saying 20 years ago, precisely ... Twenty years later, it sounds like they've just dusted off the old work."[27"
Hmm. Have you noticed any issues with our coal mining and off-shore drilling lately?
Seriously. It's better to have an open, above-board policy that says "We do not regulate this," than an agency that supposedly regulates it but doesn't.
We haven't had effective government regulation of anything since Ronald Reagan. As I sit here, Exxon has yet to pay for or clean up the Valdez oil spill, and BP just destroyed the Gulf of Mexico from Houston to Pensacola because a standard emergency valve was "too expensive."
I'd just as soon drop the pretense. There's no such thing as "government regulation" any more.
I'm here to tell you it's not happening, and it is a problem.
From the officers who deserted their post to join the looting in Katrina to the incident that happened yesterday where two law enforcement officers robbed a convenience store and attacked the clerk while flashing their badges:
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/officers-accused-of-crossing-the-line ... There were plenty of witnesses, including an off-duty Livingston County deputy, who happened to be getting gas at the time and tried to intervene."
"HARTLAND TOWNSHIP, Mich. - Clerks who work at a Clyde Road gas station are forced to dial 911 after two police officers allegedly lost control. They are accused of doing everything from stealing pizza and punching a clerk to posing as Homeland Security.
No charges have been filed. Neither LEO has been arrested. They've been clearly identified from the videotape and the testimony of a sheriff's deputy. Robbery. Assault. Using the badge to facilitate the robbery. DUI. All of it documented on tape and by eyewitness LEO testimony. The deputy saw it, and did not arrest his fellow LEOs, apparently deciding the extent of his duty was to merely try to persuade his fellow LEOs not to commit felonies.
Tell me again how it's just a few bad apples.
Oh, right, these are just ordinary people asked to do extraordinary things, so we have to expect this kind of behavior. That's odd, because I grew up in a world where randomly drafted 18-year-old kids were expected to maintain discipline even after they'd been shot and bullets were still flying.
Special legal status and protection. Endless training. Uniforms. Partners and Radios. Body armor. Backup. Souped-up armored hotrods. Chemical spray. Batons. Swithblades. Tasers. Guns. License to use dealy force with the assumption your use of violence was justified.
But somehow, even with all of those advantages, we're still supposed to think, "Well, they're just human, we should expect bad behavior from time to time."
Funny, I was always taught that mistakes are understandable right up to the point that a firearm enters the room, and that when a bullet is present, there are no more "accidents."
But hey, because a few Catholic priests turned out to be heinous pedophiles, we shouldn't indict the entire Catholic clergy. Actually, when you find evidence that the Pope himself shielded child molesters, that's pretty much exactly what you should do, because the Vatican knew of the abuse, and became accomplices by protecting pedophiles from being called to account.
Few bad apples, few bad apples, I keep hearing this phrase, "Just a few bad apples," and that's strange because the whole saying is that "A few bad apples spoils the bunch."
How many more bad apples do you need before you concede the problem is systemic?
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1589664&cid=31552060
"I didn't want to vote guilty, but I felt like I was supposed to."
With my tongue in cheek, Nullification today, nullification tomorrow, nullification forever. :-)
Hi Moridineas,
As someone who's been shoveling out the abuse on this topic, let me explain.
What an Officer of the Law is supposed to be, is a wonderful thing.
What they have allowed themselves to become, as an institution, breaks my heart. I listen to them in their own words over at the forums on "Officer.com," and the constant stream of comments about "dumb-ass sheeple," how the civilians can go frack themselves because "I'M GOING HOME TONIGHT," and the non-stop jokes they make about how they abused the badge and broke the law for their own amusement makes me ill.
I work the security side of the fence. I listen to a lot of cops talk. Some of them should be under indictment by their own words. More aren't worthy of the badge. The few who are trying to do the right thing are cowed into submission.
One of the guys I know with left the force after an incident where a child was shot because one of the officers lost control of his temper. Enough alcohol had pried his tongue loose one night. When I asked him why he didn't testify against about what he saw, why he went along with the "official" story, he angrily told me I didn't understand how things work. The guilt is eating this guy alive.
He trusted me with this horrible story. And I can't look him in the eye any more, because I know that not only did he let a child's murderer walk, but he actually helped that filth escape justice. Which makes him an accomplice in the murder of a child.
Your problem is that I'm not the only guy with a story like this. Consider the audience on this board. We're a bunch of pretty mild geeks -- and even a bunch of engineers can't stand the police any more.
You problem isn't a bunch of "cop haters," Moridineas. Your problem is that the police have made their reputation, and are justly suffering for it.
They made this bed.
The problem isn't corruption in itself, the problem is fear of harassment among the officers.
Actually, that harrassment IS corruption. It's also a felony called witness tampering and intimidation.
Aren't we, Kramerd?
Think of it as votes on a jury.
Look, Kramerd, I've been pretty hard on you tonight, and I apologize. I'm sure your Dad is a cop, and you look up to him, and wanna defend him, and there's nothing wrong with that.
But your Dad and his friends, well, they've been kinda hard on the sheeple lately. When you taser a dozen autistic kids, baton pregnant women in the stomach, taser and club an epileptic for not obeying commands while he's having a seizure, and beat a little girl while she's trapped in a holding cell....
Well, let's just say the other men who carry guns in uniform lose respect for you. And the sheeple, oh my, well the sheeple do truly horrible things.
They start voting against you on juries.
So do me a favor. Go tell your Dad that if he and his little buddies can't get their act together, then We the People are about to introduce them to the wonderful world of private security, where they can make almost a whole eight dollars an hour. :-)
Aw, you're making me blush. :-)
Thanks.
Peters hopefully has learned not to give police officers a reason to beat him. ... It simply means that since the criminal (he was convicted, remember) was being a criminal in english, that he probably wasn't trying to smuggle anything over the mexican border at that time.
Dude, seriously? Let me guess. You're mall security waiting to hear back from the department on your test results? Got a whole closet full of badges and uniforms you like to try on in front of the mirror late at night when no one's watching, do you? Got the whole "You talkin' to me?" speech in flawless De Niro accent down cold, huh?
The purpose is to remind officers and citizens of the spirit, dedication, and professionalism of the police force.
'Cause God knows we're not gonna see any of that outside of the motto.
Really, Kramerd, you can tell your boys to rest easy in the squad car seats that have molded themselves to their hindquarters. We're a military family, and if I need to whistle up some help from the angry avenging terrifying Wrath of God, I'll call our women. :-)