getting rid of the pictures won't stop pedophilia, of course not. thank you for the red herring
That wasn’t what I said, moron. Learn to read. I said eliminating the demand for them.
its like arguing with a creationist: you have a piece of ignorance stuck in your craw, and all of the plain evidence in the world to the contrary will not shake your faith
Such as the actual citation I provided above which says you’re completely full of shit.
And with your reputation you don’t have much room for movement here anyway...
wherever there is a demand for something a market is created and trade occurs. it is beyond obvious that the desire to see naked pictures of children leads to people who will exploit children
Yes, it does lead to them. Making them easier to find.
Meanwhile you aren’t wasting huge amounts of time, money, and manpower tracking down people who aren’t actually abusing kids... for the crime of possessing a bunch of files on their hard drive.
People swap kiddie porn all the time. There have been numerous busts of child abuse rings where people were swapping homemade kiddie porn.
True, and the only way those rings get busted is by someone from the outside infiltrating, or by material from the inside getting out. Whether the simple possession is legal or otherwise, that wouldn’t change.
Producing it is always going to be illegal. Law enforcement pores over any new material in detail – just like they go over new Osama tapes... the internet was able to locate a Chinese woman based on nothing but a pair of spike-heeled shoes, so you can bet that law enforcement is paying pretty close attention to anything that could give them such a clue on who or where from the videos.
the nanowires writhe and bulge, causing them to expand up to 2.5 fold. The wires also change structure from a neatly ordered crystal to a disordered glassy material
Underground drugs and cigarette models: the first try/puff is always free
Underground business only thrives because the product is illegal and you can’t get it anywhere else. Aboveground business (cigarettes)... well, nobody is going to make child porn production legal, so they can’t go aboveground.
First of all, very little money actually changes hands anymore. Secondly, very few pedos do it for money (statistically speaking almost all abuse happens by relatives or family friends, i.e. crime of opportunity, not for profit). Thirdly, the ones who do try to make money tend to get caught. Fourthly, sharing their personal stuff at all is asking to get caught, so all the more reason they don’t want to sell it or give it away.
I asked Manaka, Teenager I was staying with, if she or her friends ever went over to the alcohol vending machines. She replied very seriously that, "No. That is wrong."
If an American teen told you that, would you believe him/her?
You know, I’m not convinced that a fair portion of that respect/trust culture isn’t an elaborate ruse pulled on us Westerners...
True, arguing on the internet would make you sort of a hypocrite. Considering that you’re not a hundred percent spotless yourself and you’re here trying to fix other people, I mean...
Go right on ahead then and continue to claim that you have to have 40/20 vision before you can point out that someone else is blind. It’s not like you have any more credibility to lose at this point.
No, the tax rate is the percentage of your money that the government gets to decide how to spend.
It has nothing to do with how much money you keep and how much you give away, it has to do with who decides where the money goes... you or the government.
Government don't take money by force, that money is due for all the services you get.
They didn’t ask my permission to force me to accept all those services, and not all of them benefited me anyway.
There’s a law that says if a product shows up in my mailbox unrequested and then somebody claims I have to pay them for it, I get to keep it for free and they can go hump a porcupine. But that doesn’t apply to people who came from the government and are here to help, oh no.
I imagine that the grandparent knows plenty about the Bible, and is deliberately mocking adults who still believe in mythological fairy tales.
I imagine so too, which was why I pointed out the error.
If you’re making fun of people just to be an ass, at least don’t screw up. You end up looking stupider than the people you’re trying to make look stupid, in addition to looking like an ass.
I don’t doubt that douchebags like that exist or that the experience is emotionally damaging. I just can’t stand the way things which were obviously neither rape nor emotionally damaging are placed on that same level as if they were.
getting rid of the pictures won't stop pedophilia, of course not. thank you for the red herring
That wasn’t what I said, moron. Learn to read. I said eliminating the demand for them.
its like arguing with a creationist: you have a piece of ignorance stuck in your craw, and all of the plain evidence in the world to the contrary will not shake your faith
Such as the actual citation I provided above which says you’re completely full of shit.
And with your reputation you don’t have much room for movement here anyway...
really. naked pictures of children and the desire to see them creates the demand for the sexual abuse of children. this really is the truth
And eliminating the demand for pictures of naked children will magically make all the pedos stop sexually abusing children.
Nice fantasy world you have there. Simple reality, indeed...
Do you even realize that “basic economics” doesn’t work the way you think it does when the supply is basically infinite?
wherever there is a demand for something a market is created and trade occurs. it is beyond obvious that the desire to see naked pictures of children leads to people who will exploit children
Yes, it does lead to them. Making them easier to find.
Meanwhile you aren’t wasting huge amounts of time, money, and manpower tracking down people who aren’t actually abusing kids... for the crime of possessing a bunch of files on their hard drive.
People swap kiddie porn all the time. There have been numerous busts of child abuse rings where people were swapping homemade kiddie porn.
True, and the only way those rings get busted is by someone from the outside infiltrating, or by material from the inside getting out. Whether the simple possession is legal or otherwise, that wouldn’t change.
Producing it is always going to be illegal. Law enforcement pores over any new material in detail – just like they go over new Osama tapes... the internet was able to locate a Chinese woman based on nothing but a pair of spike-heeled shoes, so you can bet that law enforcement is paying pretty close attention to anything that could give them such a clue on who or where from the videos.
Mmm, yeah...
the nanowires writhe and bulge, causing them to expand up to 2.5 fold. The wires also change structure from a neatly ordered crystal to a disordered glassy material
Rule 34 on that!
So what, you’re just supposed to make sure the police know about the crime?
What if you filmed it and promptly sent it to the police, and then went home, drank a couple of beers and watched it? Would that be okay?
Underground drugs and cigarette models: the first try/puff is always free
Underground business only thrives because the product is illegal and you can’t get it anywhere else. Aboveground business (cigarettes)... well, nobody is going to make child porn production legal, so they can’t go aboveground.
And your ability to make lame sarcastic quips?
The reason that a rapist rapes women is to satisfy their desire for pornography? I think your logic is flawed.
False on multiple levels.
First of all, very little money actually changes hands anymore. Secondly, very few pedos do it for money (statistically speaking almost all abuse happens by relatives or family friends, i.e. crime of opportunity, not for profit). Thirdly, the ones who do try to make money tend to get caught. Fourthly, sharing their personal stuff at all is asking to get caught, so all the more reason they don’t want to sell it or give it away.
Source, assuming you can still access it (it was on wikileaks... good luck with that)... and probably also somewhat NSFW... http://www.google.com/search?q=wikileaks%20%22my%20life%20in%22
I asked Manaka, Teenager I was staying with, if she or her friends ever went over to the alcohol vending machines. She replied very seriously that, "No. That is wrong."
If an American teen told you that, would you believe him/her?
You know, I’m not convinced that a fair portion of that respect/trust culture isn’t an elaborate ruse pulled on us Westerners...
No, they’re not. They’re just pixels. The real children who were filmed have already been hurt and you’re not fixing it. I’m sorry.
is he deliberately trivializing the stories to highlight his disdain?
The rest of his post seemed pretty straight-forward and not particularly disdainful.
True, arguing on the internet would make you sort of a hypocrite. Considering that you’re not a hundred percent spotless yourself and you’re here trying to fix other people, I mean...
Go right on ahead then and continue to claim that you have to have 40/20 vision before you can point out that someone else is blind. It’s not like you have any more credibility to lose at this point.
The moral is the same either way: mind your own business.
No it isn’t, and that wasn’t the moral either way.
Regardless of who it gets spent on, HE DECIDED.
Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them.
Jesus practiced plenty of righteousness in front of others, too, but he wasn’t doing it just to be seen by them.
So, basically, like the feudal system. A lot of peasants were pretty happy with that system, I guess...
No, the tax rate is the percentage of your money that the government gets to decide how to spend.
It has nothing to do with how much money you keep and how much you give away, it has to do with who decides where the money goes... you or the government.
In other words, they’re taking 1/3 of that money away from the government and giving it to people who actually need it?
Government don't take money by force, that money is due for all the services you get.
They didn’t ask my permission to force me to accept all those services, and not all of them benefited me anyway.
There’s a law that says if a product shows up in my mailbox unrequested and then somebody claims I have to pay them for it, I get to keep it for free and they can go hump a porcupine. But that doesn’t apply to people who came from the government and are here to help, oh no.
I imagine that the grandparent knows plenty about the Bible, and is deliberately mocking adults who still believe in mythological fairy tales.
I imagine so too, which was why I pointed out the error.
If you’re making fun of people just to be an ass, at least don’t screw up. You end up looking stupider than the people you’re trying to make look stupid, in addition to looking like an ass.
I don’t doubt that douchebags like that exist or that the experience is emotionally damaging. I just can’t stand the way things which were obviously neither rape nor emotionally damaging are placed on that same level as if they were.
Then you remember it wrong. It went the other way around.