My question isn't so much "what could possibly go wrong", but rather "What right gives you to make such a decision for the whole world to live by".
The issue for me is that these scientists are, making decisions that should be evaluated well before they act, and not just by them, but by a larger audience. We don't have the ability to pull back should this go wrong. All you have to do is look at Africanized Honey Bees to know what happens when science goes wrong.
Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. -Dr. Ian Malcolm:
Humans aren't the problem, it is and always will be.. technology. The moment we started using tools, we started to augment our environment to make it more inhabitable for larger groups.
Take away all the tools, we are just animals, like the rest of nature.
"I did not have sexual relations... with that woman.. Ms Lewinsky"
Indeed, a blowjob is sexual relations, just not sexual intercourse. One is broader in definition than the other, don't you think?
And yes, he was Disbarred because of factually inaccurate answers in a legal proceeding (ie LYING under oath). Just because the Democrats always stick up for Democrats (and Rs for Rs) doesn't mean he didn't lie to the American People when he was wagging his finger at us.
x64 is an extension to x86. What we need a a whole new class of computers designed and built for 64bit architectures. But that calls for a complete redesign of the most popular OS and probably MOBO architecture as well.
Why is there no progress on diminishing Green House gases, world wide then? Blame the US for that too?
1) Kyoto is a feel good measure and a "FUCK THE US" treaty. It doesn't mean anything, never did, never will. 2) Just because the US hasn't signed it, doesn't mean anything about US commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions (or lack thereof). 3) Much of the treaty is about who is impacted by the Treaty and wealth transfers to third world nations. The treaty calls for higher standards in places where they are needed the least, and lower or no standards where they are needed the most.
Just keep believing the hype about why the US wants to pollute the world with CO2, and ignore places like China that are much worse. There are a couple of Chinese exchange teachers in my city, and the thing they have remarked is how clear the air is. Guess what, the US isn't the problem, and Kyoto is no fixing the problems where they exist.
And how are you going to afford a microwave or refrigerator when you don't have a job?
Let me guess your solution? By taxing the "1%" of all their wealth and giving it to people who can't get a job with their PhD's in "Ethnic Equality Studies"... right?
I'll tell you where they actually go "wrong" in their thinking. It is about perceived value, in their estimation. The next paragraphe I'm going to write, is from their perspective.
A $1 game is cheap (less value) than one that sells for $30. One that sell for $60 has more "value" yet.Therefore the "Best Games" need to be sold at HIGHER prices, to reflect the Value in them. We cannot sell MW3 for less than MW2, nor can we sell MW2 for less, just because MW3 is out. We will sell both for $55 regardless because both offer equal value.
Now, AngryBirds and Zinga have countered with $1 games (or in game enhancements) Those games (and similar) are selling not only more copies, but making more money than many other Big Name Games running on the latest consoles. This confuses many of the bigger games companies, but a few are starting to "get it" by offering more "expansion packs" for inexpensive prices, following after the AngryBirds and Zinga Models
Profits don't come into the equation, because of the need to protect perceived value by the companies. THAT is the problem and why they don't get the solution. It is why people risked playing AngryBirds and found it addicting, after all it only cost $1 (or whatever it is). Angry Birds have 500,000,000 players world wide*.That is 1/2 billion. How many game companies would kill to have that number of "success stories" for any one of their products???
*I've never played AngryBirds and I have a Droid Phone
You are already at 5, so I'm adding my $.02 worth. This is exactly right. My mother has a Nook, but has YET to buy a book from B&N because she goes to Costco, and buys the Paperback for less than 1/2 price of what B&N charges.
Seriously, can it cost MORE to make an ebook than a dead tree version, shipped to a store? You want us to believe that? The Publishing Industry should learn from Apple/iTunes that DRM will eventually fail, books will leak onto Torrent sites (already have) and unless you make it 1)Easy, 2) Convenient, 3) Inexpensive people will search for something that is 1)Easier, 2) More Convenient, and 3) FREE and you will lose.
People, in general, do not want to "steal", but will when faced with the idea that the only other option is to be raped (metaphorically).
Actually, I do consider a judge to be "average person", just one who's expertise is in LAW, and not necessarily anything else, especially technology.
That is the problem we have with revering people in black robes over everyday citizens, is they end up being full of themselves and thinking they are better and smarter than "average", when the truth is, they are "average". They should take the time to learn about the consequences of their "legal" opinions before they make their rulings. The consequences of ignorance is too grotesque otherwise.
It isn't the one, it is the thousands of others diseases that will inevitably follow. And if you REALLY want to add in conspiracy theories about this and other similar initiatives all you need to do is look at the Secular Ten Commandment Monument (Georgia Guide Stones), and the first two "commandments" of the Elites that erected it...
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. 2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
Ever wonder how they were going to get there? Now you know.
We ALL benefit from increased productivity, even those that don't have the latest greatest gadgets. How many have Microwaves and Refrigerators? How many have cars that can travel thousands of miles without breaking down once?
The problem with your hypothesis is that increased productivity hasn't helped everyone, when clearly it has. Your problem is that that it hasn't helped everyone "equally". Your view of fairness has simply ignored the facts.
My point is, we take it on faith that things will work out based on our theory. It is entirely possible (in the case of evolution, the new arsenic based life form) that something will come along and show us that our theory is incomplete. Unfortunately, many people tend to take that to mean that "it is wrong".
... but that would also be wrong
Either you don't understand your own hypothesis or you're ignoring your own theory in an effort to prove it correct.
My point, if it is WRONG then it is WRONG. Period. It may be close to being right, but that still is wrong. Incomplete theories are wrong, but they are the best we have. And that isn't good.
And you know very well, that piece of paper is worth less than it cost to make it. You know darn well that it will BECOME mission critical at some point, just like all the "proof of concept" servers we build out to test new stuff on. THOSE become mission critical because they start actually being used for Mission Critical work when nobody is looking.
The problem with Chargebacks is that everyone looks at IT chargebacks like they do everything else. The High Availability SAN that IT wants, costs a bunch more than the FREENAS box that some idiot thinks he can build for next to nothing with commodity parts. Never mind the cheap NAS solution doesn't do anything close to what the Enterprise grade NAS can do.
The complaint always is "But I can do it for 50% of the cost you're charging me" To which I always respond, "So can I, but you're not paying me to build cheap NAS, you're paying me to support it"
Same Reason people ship jobs over seas to dictatorships and petty despots instead of fixing the laws to keep them here. We have oil and gas here in the US, we just can't get to it because of environmental laws and restrictions on where we can drill. And I do think Oil does come from America, Mexico, Canada, Venezuela.... Oil come from around the world. Or did you think that Oil only came from the Middle East?
We already have High Speed Rail, they are called AIRPLANES and can actually go places that a single track cannot. Like Burbank to Oakland, LAX to SFO, Ontario to Sacramento etc etc.
And it costs a lot less to build and maintain that infrastructure than the boondoggle that HSR is gonna be.
If you do the math, you could GIVE everyone a plane ticket a year on Southwest and come out ahead. Someone needs to put up the reality check of what it actually costs per Resident per year to build and then operate.
Of course, the UNIONS are all for this crap, as it will have to be built with Union Labor, who then funnels the dues back to the DNC who support HSR. We used to call those Political Kickbacks. I guess if that is how you have to buy votes....
So, what you're saying is that you oppose wealthy people expressing their 1st Amendment rights. How about we also restrict those that don't have jobs and are on welfare from donating to campaigns while we are restricting people's Liberties?
I wish I was standing in front of the US Supreme Court where I could have made the case for LIBERTY being for Individuals and Citizens and not artificial legal constructs such as PACs, Corporations and Unions. Additionally, I'm not restricting, in ANY manner, their "speech" other than just saying they have to manage their own campaigns.
Hell, if we have to, lets make a Constitutional Amendment that says "Liberty is for individuals and Citizens".:-D
You'd be surprised, but the OWS people have a lot in common with the TP people. Bailouts for Big Corps, banks and things of that sort. The big difference is that the TP people tend to believe Government is the problem and the OWSers believe it is the solution.
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No doubt I agree with you about being stewards of the world we live in. I doubt we will be able to prevent nature from destroying us .. eventually.
Next time, it will probably be insects that become dominant.
My question isn't so much "what could possibly go wrong", but rather "What right gives you to make such a decision for the whole world to live by".
The issue for me is that these scientists are, making decisions that should be evaluated well before they act, and not just by them, but by a larger audience. We don't have the ability to pull back should this go wrong. All you have to do is look at Africanized Honey Bees to know what happens when science goes wrong.
Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. -Dr. Ian Malcolm:
Humans aren't the problem, it is and always will be .. technology. The moment we started using tools, we started to augment our environment to make it more inhabitable for larger groups.
Take away all the tools, we are just animals, like the rest of nature.
"I did not have sexual relations ... with that woman .. Ms Lewinsky"
Indeed, a blowjob is sexual relations, just not sexual intercourse. One is broader in definition than the other, don't you think?
And yes, he was Disbarred because of factually inaccurate answers in a legal proceeding (ie LYING under oath). Just because the Democrats always stick up for Democrats (and Rs for Rs) doesn't mean he didn't lie to the American People when he was wagging his finger at us.
x64 is an extension to x86. What we need a a whole new class of computers designed and built for 64bit architectures. But that calls for a complete redesign of the most popular OS and probably MOBO architecture as well.
The problem is, who would want to do that?
A blowjob is not sexual relations?
If it uses IP addresses directly, that would make it fairly easy to DOS. Not that I'm saying we should doing it.
Thanks
Why is there no progress on diminishing Green House gases, world wide then? Blame the US for that too?
1) Kyoto is a feel good measure and a "FUCK THE US" treaty. It doesn't mean anything, never did, never will.
2) Just because the US hasn't signed it, doesn't mean anything about US commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions (or lack thereof).
3) Much of the treaty is about who is impacted by the Treaty and wealth transfers to third world nations. The treaty calls for higher standards in places where they are needed the least, and lower or no standards where they are needed the most.
Just keep believing the hype about why the US wants to pollute the world with CO2, and ignore places like China that are much worse. There are a couple of Chinese exchange teachers in my city, and the thing they have remarked is how clear the air is. Guess what, the US isn't the problem, and Kyoto is no fixing the problems where they exist.
Let me guess your solution? By taxing the "1%" of all their wealth and giving it to people who can't get a job with their PhD's in "Ethnic Equality Studies" ... right?
I'll tell you where they actually go "wrong" in their thinking. It is about perceived value, in their estimation. The next paragraphe I'm going to write, is from their perspective.
A $1 game is cheap (less value) than one that sells for $30. One that sell for $60 has more "value" yet.Therefore the "Best Games" need to be sold at HIGHER prices, to reflect the Value in them. We cannot sell MW3 for less than MW2, nor can we sell MW2 for less, just because MW3 is out. We will sell both for $55 regardless because both offer equal value.
Now, AngryBirds and Zinga have countered with $1 games (or in game enhancements) Those games (and similar) are selling not only more copies, but making more money than many other Big Name Games running on the latest consoles. This confuses many of the bigger games companies, but a few are starting to "get it" by offering more "expansion packs" for inexpensive prices, following after the AngryBirds and Zinga Models
Profits don't come into the equation, because of the need to protect perceived value by the companies. THAT is the problem and why they don't get the solution. It is why people risked playing AngryBirds and found it addicting, after all it only cost $1 (or whatever it is). Angry Birds have 500,000,000 players world wide*.That is 1/2 billion. How many game companies would kill to have that number of "success stories" for any one of their products???
*I've never played AngryBirds and I have a Droid Phone
You are already at 5, so I'm adding my $.02 worth. This is exactly right. My mother has a Nook, but has YET to buy a book from B&N because she goes to Costco, and buys the Paperback for less than 1/2 price of what B&N charges.
Seriously, can it cost MORE to make an ebook than a dead tree version, shipped to a store? You want us to believe that? The Publishing Industry should learn from Apple/iTunes that DRM will eventually fail, books will leak onto Torrent sites (already have) and unless you make it 1)Easy, 2) Convenient, 3) Inexpensive people will search for something that is 1)Easier, 2) More Convenient, and 3) FREE and you will lose.
People, in general, do not want to "steal", but will when faced with the idea that the only other option is to be raped (metaphorically).
Actually, I do consider a judge to be "average person", just one who's expertise is in LAW, and not necessarily anything else, especially technology.
That is the problem we have with revering people in black robes over everyday citizens, is they end up being full of themselves and thinking they are better and smarter than "average", when the truth is, they are "average". They should take the time to learn about the consequences of their "legal" opinions before they make their rulings. The consequences of ignorance is too grotesque otherwise.
FTFY
I see what you did there. YOU are sick
It isn't the one, it is the thousands of others diseases that will inevitably follow. And if you REALLY want to add in conspiracy theories about this and other similar initiatives all you need to do is look at the Secular Ten Commandment Monument (Georgia Guide Stones), and the first two "commandments" of the Elites that erected it ...
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
Ever wonder how they were going to get there? Now you know.
We ALL benefit from increased productivity, even those that don't have the latest greatest gadgets. How many have Microwaves and Refrigerators? How many have cars that can travel thousands of miles without breaking down once?
The problem with your hypothesis is that increased productivity hasn't helped everyone, when clearly it has. Your problem is that that it hasn't helped everyone "equally". Your view of fairness has simply ignored the facts.
Either you don't understand your own hypothesis or you're ignoring your own theory in an effort to prove it correct.
My point, if it is WRONG then it is WRONG. Period. It may be close to being right, but that still is wrong. Incomplete theories are wrong, but they are the best we have. And that isn't good.
And you know very well, that piece of paper is worth less than it cost to make it. You know darn well that it will BECOME mission critical at some point, just like all the "proof of concept" servers we build out to test new stuff on. THOSE become mission critical because they start actually being used for Mission Critical work when nobody is looking.
Other than that, you're 100% right.
The problem with Chargebacks is that everyone looks at IT chargebacks like they do everything else. The High Availability SAN that IT wants, costs a bunch more than the FREENAS box that some idiot thinks he can build for next to nothing with commodity parts. Never mind the cheap NAS solution doesn't do anything close to what the Enterprise grade NAS can do.
The complaint always is "But I can do it for 50% of the cost you're charging me" To which I always respond, "So can I, but you're not paying me to build cheap NAS, you're paying me to support it"
Same Reason people ship jobs over seas to dictatorships and petty despots instead of fixing the laws to keep them here. We have oil and gas here in the US, we just can't get to it because of environmental laws and restrictions on where we can drill. And I do think Oil does come from America, Mexico, Canada, Venezuela .... Oil come from around the world. Or did you think that Oil only came from the Middle East?
We already have High Speed Rail, they are called AIRPLANES and can actually go places that a single track cannot. Like Burbank to Oakland, LAX to SFO, Ontario to Sacramento etc etc.
And it costs a lot less to build and maintain that infrastructure than the boondoggle that HSR is gonna be.
If you do the math, you could GIVE everyone a plane ticket a year on Southwest and come out ahead. Someone needs to put up the reality check of what it actually costs per Resident per year to build and then operate.
Of course, the UNIONS are all for this crap, as it will have to be built with Union Labor, who then funnels the dues back to the DNC who support HSR. We used to call those Political Kickbacks. I guess if that is how you have to buy votes ....
So, what you're saying is that you oppose wealthy people expressing their 1st Amendment rights. How about we also restrict those that don't have jobs and are on welfare from donating to campaigns while we are restricting people's Liberties?
#3 and #4 are for CLARITY. I realize they are superfluous otherwise.
I wish I was standing in front of the US Supreme Court where I could have made the case for LIBERTY being for Individuals and Citizens and not artificial legal constructs such as PACs, Corporations and Unions. Additionally, I'm not restricting, in ANY manner, their "speech" other than just saying they have to manage their own campaigns.
Hell, if we have to, lets make a Constitutional Amendment that says "Liberty is for individuals and Citizens". :-D
You'd be surprised, but the OWS people have a lot in common with the TP people. Bailouts for Big Corps, banks and things of that sort. The big difference is that the TP people tend to believe Government is the problem and the OWSers believe it is the solution.