Actually, I have an alternative take on it. Delay gives prosecutors more time to gin up evidence and tweak their case before being heard in court. While it is true that evidence stales and witnesses tend to forget, much of that "evidence" is already recorded, and by the time it gets to trial, it has been practiced and rehearsed to death.
New currency, bit shifted to the left. $10 becomes the new $1. Coinage would be still "penny, nickel, dime quarter" just have new issues.
Nobody wants or cares about "pennies" (cent) anymore. nickels and dimes are almost there too. To fill up tires costs $.50 at most gas stations. It HURTS. But if it were... $.05 why that wouldn't hurt as much. We could simply move a decimal point, issues some new currency over one month, and be done.
And all the counterfeiters would have a brief field day, and all the drug cartels with US $$ stuffed away would be up a creek trying to redeem all those millions in currency.
Okay, it is a simple idea, it would never work, and if it would work congress would never adopt it. Silly me.
Define Marriage 100 years ago. 500 years ago. 1000 years ago. 3000 years ago.
WHEN redefining "marriage" to include a definition that is less that 50 years old, how can you say that it is about 'equal protection'? Equal protection from what?
Can I define Marriage anyway I want? Why is YOUR definition the one that counts? How do you feel about polygamy? How about marriage between brother and sister? Brother and Brother? Father/daughter, father/son, mother/son, mother/daughter?
The problem with those who want marriage to extend to "Gay" people, and non of the others, is one of POLITICS not "equal protection", because most of the people who are supportive of gay marriage rights aren't in favor of all these other variations, so "equal protection" of defining marriage between ANY two consenting adults is NOT the reason. Either that or they are hypocritical.
The fact that most also aren't in favor of Polygamy, which as WAY more historical support is just as hypocritical in also is indicative of the skewed political reality.
Personally, I would much rather the state abandon certifying marriages, as they have NO SUCH INTEREST in a "sacred" (historically) institution.
The whole reason Gay Marriage is an issues is one of political power and not of "rights" such as "equal protection". Marriage has never been "equal" and there is no way to make it so, unless you completely invalidate all previous restrictions on who can marry who. Which even MOST gay people don't want.
I know, because My brother is gay, I've had that conversation with him. Pretending it is about "equal protection" is just a red-herring.
5) Public Caning 6) Vows and never goes drunk driving again. 7) Wants rehab.
I'm sick to death of coddling people who don't care about anyone or anything else besides themselves. WHY should society pay for their "rehab" when it won't work unless they REALLY want it? Rehab doesn't work when people don't care. And they don't care about themselves, why should I care about them?
Look, don't get me wrong, because I'm all for wanting to help people WHO actually want help. But I know too many people who LIKE staying drunk all the time, and drive and no amount of REHAB is going to ever change them. THEY like who they are (or at least pretend to).
Man this is depressing, I think I need a drink before I go home tonight. (wash rinse repeat)
It is worse than what you're saying. The GP poster is suggesting doing something to a Police Officer that they wouldn't want done to themselves. There is an "us vs them" mentality (group politics) going on there, and the rules they are suggesting for others, they don't want applied to themselves.
That is because "WE" have let a small group (Judges) define Corporations (Creations of the State) as having the same "Rights" as Persons.
Hear me very carefully. WE the PEOPLE need to get together and tell the government (by CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT) that non-citizen entities (Corporations) are not afforded ANY rights as "persons". NONE. They are granted PRIVILEGES only, including their own existence, and violation of those privileges will result in increasing penalties, including the "corporate death penalty", whereby their corporate charter is revoked and stock holders lose everything.
Just ask California how it can vote several times regarding an issue, only to have one guy in a black robe overturn it each and every time, no matter what. While you may not agree with the voters or while you may agree that it needs to be over turned, Prop 8 (marriage defined as one man, one woman) is par for the course in proving that votes don't matter.
All one needs for their way, is one guy(or gal) with enough "power" (Judicial) to tell everyone what must be. That is, by definition, tyranny.
(please don't turn this into a debate on the merits of Prop 8, that is not my point here). Point is, both LEFT and RIGHT people like votes being over turned when it suits their agenda. All I'm saying is that is a very dangerous trend in US politics.
500 Million / 72 years (average life span??) / 365.25 (days/year) = average deaths day?? That figures to be about 19,000 deaths / day... average. And doing a quick check around the net, that number (19K) is a pretty good ball park estimate.
IT would take a full time staff to manage that process.
Hah. It wasn't Ad Homenems, it was a perspective (my opinion) and a suggestion. Hence the word "suggest" in the the "stream". Also notice the back references to all your points (which are mostly moronic rantings of a left wing loon, IMHO).
Obviously you're the one with problems identifying logical fallacies. I suggest you see this website (HUGE WEBSITE WARNING)
1) The term "Teabaggers" is a derogatory Term, and you know it. Which is why you call them that. It is a form of attacking the person. I'm surprised you're protesting that, but okay.
2) It is a strawman because of a)I never mentioned teaparty (teabaggers) nor "losing" an election. I've not voted for a winning party / person in years, since I vote Libertarian. I'm not part of any "tea party" nor ever attended any of their "events". I'm not a (R), and haven't been for nearly 25 years, since I learned about what it means to be a libertarian.
It was a strawman (false representation of me), because you're subsituting and arguing against my point by a reason I never even mentioned, nor was part of my thinking at all.
3) ALL CAPITAL LETTERS is a form of yelling(online), and is emotional response. By using ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, you're using EMOTION as a tool to try to WIN an argument.
What makes government illegitimate is when it ignores the laws it was formed around. One of the points actually found in the DoI, and one of the reasons I suggest people actually read the thing.
Don't send them to a "large website" huh? I sent them to the text of the Declaration of Independence (doi part of the link). The ignorance is yours for assuming it was something else, and not actually clicking the link.
You're not protecting anyone from anything, except perhaps your own fragile ego (hence your self supportive declaration of how you're being modded).
I really don't care how people mod me. My ego doesn't depend on people agreeing with me all the time, or at all for that matter. I'm sorry you do. Life is not a popularity contest. I grew up from the 8th grade, I suggest you do too.
"Ad Hominem" means "against the man" or "against the person."
teabaggers
Instead of attacking my point (reading the DoI) you decide to attack a "group" based upon prejudices you have. You're not refuting the point I made.
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:
equate unelected tyranny with LOSING THE ELECTION BECAUSE THEY WERE THE FUCKING MINORITY
If you'd read the DoI like I suggested, you'd find the complaints leveled at King George and England have a great deal in common (not exact) with the complaints Libertarians like me have against both GWB and BHO leaders. While I wasn't a big fan of WJC and the (R) congress that created surplus in Fed Treasury, I'm kind of looking back at that time with nostalgia.
Seriously, read it. I doubt you have or else you wouldn't have gone down the road of logical fallacies (including the liberal left's favorite "appeal to emotion").
I'm guessing you won't bother to, just as you addressed my perfectly valid point with your nonsense.
Your right. Oh wait, no your not. Nice try though.
Yeah, Tea Party People are about as annoying as the Code Pink and Moveon.org types.
However your response is typical of someone who hasn't actually READ the whole Declaration in while (if at all) and would rather take Ad Homenum and Strawman arguments.
I'm all in favor of a "Recall them All" option every election. Which if it wins, all INCOMBENTS are summarily fired and forbidden from holding any elected office (everywhere) or position in any firm that Lobbies Congress.
It is high time the elites in DC learn that we're sick to death of the crap they feed us, but refuse to eat themselves. If it is so good for me and mine, why the hell are you exempted? HUH?
By the way, when was the last time you read the entire Declaration of Independence? THE WHOLE THING? I challenge each and every US citizen to go and read the whole thing and see what we went to war for back then. I think you'll be surprised that it is the very same thing many of us are unhappy about with our current Federal and even State governments.
One of the first lessons I learned in business went something like this...
Boss: The customer is always right
Me: Even when they are wrong?
Boss: Even when they are wrong.
Me: How can that be?
Boss: It just is. You make the customer believe they are alright, and business will take care of itself.
A few weeks later, I was in front of a customer, who was OBVIOUSLY not getting what he wanted, and I was trying my hardest to accommodate the customer, my boss steps in, and asks the guy what he wanted, the guy said "Fire that asshole" pointing to me. Boss looks at me and says "Your fired, get your things, I'll get your check".
The look of horror on the customer was priceless. I got up and went into the sales office while my boss negotiated with the customer my being fired for a deal (same deal I was making). The customer made one last request as part of the deal, that I don't lose my job.;)
I learned a lot from that boss. Take care of customers, because without customers, you have no business.
So, If I create an app, say that uses GPS to do the very same thing.. would that be infringement? Plug in schedule, and who to notify and bingo you have a new app. Not the same, since it uses GPS, right?
Give me a specific idea, and I can generate several others, that do something similar, or even the same way, a completely different way.
hen he asked (in a very accusing tone) which one of us wasn't born in the US.
Why? Do you know something I don't know? Did my mother lie to me? I knew mother was lying to me. I always knew MOM was lying. Next thing you're gonna tell me is there is no Santa Clause !!!!
There is almost difference between incompetence and malfeasance. It is virtually impossible to tell the difference, as the results are often identical.
It won't be found by a backscatter machine. So the point is moot. The images only go skin deep, and no deeper. My daughter has a bunch of metal in her, and it doesn't see any of it.
Sure people can form a "group" to campaign on behalf of ____. Provided that the membership / donations are completely open to public scrutiny. Second part, they can provide adverts and campaign material to the public, again provided that they announce clearly who they are/primary purpose. But they would not be able to send contributions directly to a candidate or ballot proposition.
ALL rules for Non-person Entities would be identical, no favoring "unions" over "corporations" (or visa versa). That way the rules would apply equally to Unions, Corps, Pacs, interest groups, NPO, and so on.
And sure, selling/giving away campaign material would be okay, provided they tell people clearly who they are, what their purpose is, and who their members are.
Disclosure is the best antiseptic. If you don't want people knowing you're donating to a candidate or cause, or how much you're giving, then perhaps you shouldn't be doing it. I mean, what is it that you're afraid or ashamed of?
I'm not afraid of people who have a different opinion, nor their ideas. If my ideas are that fragile, then perhaps I need to re-evaluate them.
Censorship of any kind is evil. Including Political Correctness.
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Swearing doesn't make you sound grown up, it makes you sound like a 12 year old trying to sound grown up.
Actually, I have an alternative take on it. Delay gives prosecutors more time to gin up evidence and tweak their case before being heard in court. While it is true that evidence stales and witnesses tend to forget, much of that "evidence" is already recorded, and by the time it gets to trial, it has been practiced and rehearsed to death.
What I find amazing is that you saw that, while I was having a parsing error on this sentence ..
New currency, bit shifted to the left. $10 becomes the new $1. Coinage would be still "penny, nickel, dime quarter" just have new issues.
Nobody wants or cares about "pennies" (cent) anymore. nickels and dimes are almost there too. To fill up tires costs $.50 at most gas stations. It HURTS. But if it were ... $.05 why that wouldn't hurt as much. We could simply move a decimal point, issues some new currency over one month, and be done.
And all the counterfeiters would have a brief field day, and all the drug cartels with US $$ stuffed away would be up a creek trying to redeem all those millions in currency.
Okay, it is a simple idea, it would never work, and if it would work congress would never adopt it. Silly me.
Define Marriage 100 years ago. 500 years ago. 1000 years ago. 3000 years ago.
WHEN redefining "marriage" to include a definition that is less that 50 years old, how can you say that it is about 'equal protection'? Equal protection from what?
Can I define Marriage anyway I want? Why is YOUR definition the one that counts? How do you feel about polygamy? How about marriage between brother and sister? Brother and Brother? Father/daughter, father/son, mother/son, mother/daughter?
The problem with those who want marriage to extend to "Gay" people, and non of the others, is one of POLITICS not "equal protection", because most of the people who are supportive of gay marriage rights aren't in favor of all these other variations, so "equal protection" of defining marriage between ANY two consenting adults is NOT the reason. Either that or they are hypocritical.
The fact that most also aren't in favor of Polygamy, which as WAY more historical support is just as hypocritical in also is indicative of the skewed political reality.
Personally, I would much rather the state abandon certifying marriages, as they have NO SUCH INTEREST in a "sacred" (historically) institution.
The whole reason Gay Marriage is an issues is one of political power and not of "rights" such as "equal protection". Marriage has never been "equal" and there is no way to make it so, unless you completely invalidate all previous restrictions on who can marry who. Which even MOST gay people don't want.
I know, because My brother is gay, I've had that conversation with him. Pretending it is about "equal protection" is just a red-herring.
5) Public Caning
6) Vows and never goes drunk driving again.
7) Wants rehab.
I'm sick to death of coddling people who don't care about anyone or anything else besides themselves. WHY should society pay for their "rehab" when it won't work unless they REALLY want it? Rehab doesn't work when people don't care. And they don't care about themselves, why should I care about them?
Look, don't get me wrong, because I'm all for wanting to help people WHO actually want help. But I know too many people who LIKE staying drunk all the time, and drive and no amount of REHAB is going to ever change them. THEY like who they are (or at least pretend to).
Man this is depressing, I think I need a drink before I go home tonight. (wash rinse repeat)
It is worse than what you're saying. The GP poster is suggesting doing something to a Police Officer that they wouldn't want done to themselves. There is an "us vs them" mentality (group politics) going on there, and the rules they are suggesting for others, they don't want applied to themselves.
That is because "WE" have let a small group (Judges) define Corporations (Creations of the State) as having the same "Rights" as Persons.
Hear me very carefully. WE the PEOPLE need to get together and tell the government (by CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT) that non-citizen entities (Corporations) are not afforded ANY rights as "persons". NONE. They are granted PRIVILEGES only, including their own existence, and violation of those privileges will result in increasing penalties, including the "corporate death penalty", whereby their corporate charter is revoked and stock holders lose everything.
You have a vote, it just doesn't count.
Just ask California how it can vote several times regarding an issue, only to have one guy in a black robe overturn it each and every time, no matter what. While you may not agree with the voters or while you may agree that it needs to be over turned, Prop 8 (marriage defined as one man, one woman) is par for the course in proving that votes don't matter.
All one needs for their way, is one guy(or gal) with enough "power" (Judicial) to tell everyone what must be. That is, by definition, tyranny.
(please don't turn this into a debate on the merits of Prop 8, that is not my point here). Point is, both LEFT and RIGHT people like votes being over turned when it suits their agenda. All I'm saying is that is a very dangerous trend in US politics.
"Long ago" being any length of time greater than about 3 years???
500 Million / 72 years (average life span??) / 365.25 (days/year) = average deaths day?? That figures to be about 19,000 deaths / day ... average. And doing a quick check around the net, that number (19K) is a pretty good ball park estimate.
IT would take a full time staff to manage that process.
Hah. It wasn't Ad Homenems, it was a perspective (my opinion) and a suggestion. Hence the word "suggest" in the the "stream". Also notice the back references to all your points (which are mostly moronic rantings of a left wing loon, IMHO).
Obviously you're the one with problems identifying logical fallacies. I suggest you see this website (HUGE WEBSITE WARNING)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
1) The term "Teabaggers" is a derogatory Term, and you know it. Which is why you call them that. It is a form of attacking the person. I'm surprised you're protesting that, but okay.
2) It is a strawman because of a)I never mentioned teaparty (teabaggers) nor "losing" an election. I've not voted for a winning party / person in years, since I vote Libertarian. I'm not part of any "tea party" nor ever attended any of their "events". I'm not a (R), and haven't been for nearly 25 years, since I learned about what it means to be a libertarian.
It was a strawman (false representation of me), because you're subsituting and arguing against my point by a reason I never even mentioned, nor was part of my thinking at all.
3) ALL CAPITAL LETTERS is a form of yelling(online), and is emotional response. By using ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, you're using EMOTION as a tool to try to WIN an argument.
What makes government illegitimate is when it ignores the laws it was formed around. One of the points actually found in the DoI, and one of the reasons I suggest people actually read the thing.
Don't send them to a "large website" huh? I sent them to the text of the Declaration of Independence (doi part of the link). The ignorance is yours for assuming it was something else, and not actually clicking the link.
You're not protecting anyone from anything, except perhaps your own fragile ego (hence your self supportive declaration of how you're being modded).
I really don't care how people mod me. My ego doesn't depend on people agreeing with me all the time, or at all for that matter. I'm sorry you do. Life is not a popularity contest. I grew up from the 8th grade, I suggest you do too.
"Ad Hominem" means "against the man" or "against the person."
Instead of attacking my point (reading the DoI) you decide to attack a "group" based upon prejudices you have. You're not refuting the point I made.
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:
If you'd read the DoI like I suggested, you'd find the complaints leveled at King George and England have a great deal in common (not exact) with the complaints Libertarians like me have against both GWB and BHO leaders. While I wasn't a big fan of WJC and the (R) congress that created surplus in Fed Treasury, I'm kind of looking back at that time with nostalgia.
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/doi/text.html
Seriously, read it. I doubt you have or else you wouldn't have gone down the road of logical fallacies (including the liberal left's favorite "appeal to emotion").
Your right. Oh wait, no your not. Nice try though.
Yeah, Tea Party People are about as annoying as the Code Pink and Moveon.org types.
However your response is typical of someone who hasn't actually READ the whole Declaration in while (if at all) and would rather take Ad Homenum and Strawman arguments.
I'm all in favor of a "Recall them All" option every election. Which if it wins, all INCOMBENTS are summarily fired and forbidden from holding any elected office (everywhere) or position in any firm that Lobbies Congress.
It is high time the elites in DC learn that we're sick to death of the crap they feed us, but refuse to eat themselves. If it is so good for me and mine, why the hell are you exempted? HUH?
By the way, when was the last time you read the entire Declaration of Independence? THE WHOLE THING? I challenge each and every US citizen to go and read the whole thing and see what we went to war for back then. I think you'll be surprised that it is the very same thing many of us are unhappy about with our current Federal and even State governments.
One of the first lessons I learned in business went something like this ...
Boss: The customer is always right
Me: Even when they are wrong?
Boss: Even when they are wrong.
Me: How can that be?
Boss: It just is. You make the customer believe they are alright, and business will take care of itself.
A few weeks later, I was in front of a customer, who was OBVIOUSLY not getting what he wanted, and I was trying my hardest to accommodate the customer, my boss steps in, and asks the guy what he wanted, the guy said "Fire that asshole" pointing to me. Boss looks at me and says "Your fired, get your things, I'll get your check".
The look of horror on the customer was priceless. I got up and went into the sales office while my boss negotiated with the customer my being fired for a deal (same deal I was making). The customer made one last request as part of the deal, that I don't lose my job. ;)
I learned a lot from that boss. Take care of customers, because without customers, you have no business.
Dead Guy, Hot Actress, Cool Actor, Badass MOFO, Redhead, Geeky Actor ... Not bad for an ensemble. But they are all actors (or at least were).
A better ensemble would include artist, musician, actor, dancer and architect.
Christo, Santana, John Clease, Michael Flatley, and Zaha Adid,
Or not.
One Word Proof. POLITICS.
How'd I do???
So, If I create an app, say that uses GPS to do the very same thing.. would that be infringement? Plug in schedule, and who to notify and bingo you have a new app. Not the same, since it uses GPS, right?
Give me a specific idea, and I can generate several others, that do something similar, or even the same way, a completely different way.
"I don't know any of the details about the failed business, but even in the best of economic climates, the odds are against you."
So is the government.
Why? Do you know something I don't know? Did my mother lie to me? I knew mother was lying to me. I always knew MOM was lying. Next thing you're gonna tell me is there is no Santa Clause !!!!
There is almost difference between incompetence and malfeasance. It is virtually impossible to tell the difference, as the results are often identical.
It won't be found by a backscatter machine. So the point is moot. The images only go skin deep, and no deeper. My daughter has a bunch of metal in her, and it doesn't see any of it.
Nice try though.
Sure people can form a "group" to campaign on behalf of ____. Provided that the membership / donations are completely open to public scrutiny. Second part, they can provide adverts and campaign material to the public, again provided that they announce clearly who they are/primary purpose. But they would not be able to send contributions directly to a candidate or ballot proposition.
ALL rules for Non-person Entities would be identical, no favoring "unions" over "corporations" (or visa versa). That way the rules would apply equally to Unions, Corps, Pacs, interest groups, NPO, and so on.
And sure, selling/giving away campaign material would be okay, provided they tell people clearly who they are, what their purpose is, and who their members are.
Disclosure is the best antiseptic. If you don't want people knowing you're donating to a candidate or cause, or how much you're giving, then perhaps you shouldn't be doing it. I mean, what is it that you're afraid or ashamed of?
I'm not afraid of people who have a different opinion, nor their ideas. If my ideas are that fragile, then perhaps I need to re-evaluate them.
Censorship of any kind is evil. Including Political Correctness.