I have a couple of solutions I use when telemarketers call. Now if more people used these methods...
1) Answer the phone, tell the person on the other end you're right in the middle of something, but if they hold on.............. and set the phone down, and wait. I had one guy hang on for 1/2 hour for me to get back... SUCKER
2) Act Crazy. Talk about Aliens, UFOs, Bigfoot, whatever. Paranoidism also works. "Why do you keep calling me, what do you want"
3) Start Preaching about Buddha, Jesus, Allah, Moses, Vishnu..... (maybe considered a variant of 2)
4) Ask if the other person is into "phone sex" and start talking dirty.
5) Try to sign them up for MLM (Amway)
6) Pretend to be abusing/being abused by your SO, while on the phone. "Stop it you bitch or I'll beat your ass again"
In fact, mix and match all you want and come up with some new ideas. ie combine 6 and 4, hilarious.
The point is, if you're having fun with it, and it wastes their time, and enough people do it, it becomes unprofitable waste of the actual human's time on the other end. The bonus is, since I've started doing this, the number of telemarketing calls has dropped to almost nothing.
Has anyone noticed that MS has completely stop any semblance of innovation or improvement upon products, and is now instead chasing every single idea in Tech simultaneously?
Google, Yahoo, Linux, Apple.... the list is getting longer everyday. At some point, the death by a thousand cuts will occur. No single cut will have killed, only the combination of all of them.
You know what? You're right and absolutely wrong at the same time.
You're right that to a customer, their problems are the biggest, and nobody else's matter. However in the grand scheme of things if you dealt with every customer as if their problem was a code red emergency, then every freakin problem becomes a code red emergency.
I worked at a place where the loudest squeeky wheel got greased, in order of squeekiness. "My Mouse is broken and I have a Powerpoint presentation in ten minutes" screaming lunatic has the same priority as "the network is down", was SOP. Fix the screaming lunatic first, because his powerpoint is life and death to him, never mind the fact that the mouse hasn't worked in three weeks and this was the first you heard of it.
Proper support requires some form or Triage to assign priorities. Urgent doesn't mean Important. Lastly, I know from experience, that as long as the mentality of the "customer is always right (even when they are wrong)" then real progress cannot be made. Sometimes, just sometimes customers aren't right.
1) Never been tried. 2) What's wrong with this? 3) Sad, isn't it? 4) Huh? 5) Again haven't been tried in a while 6) I actually believe GVMT Roll in some of these things 7) No Cherry Picking here 8) Whatever 9) Whatever 10) Too many people being (D) or (R) because of Fear and Fear.
Lets just deal with #1
Free Markets are easy to control. Corporate Charters are given by the GVMT, why aren't they revoked more often? Why aren't assets seized? Why aren't boards of directors arrested and charged for lack of proper stewardship?
Much of the problems seen in the free market isn't the fault of free markets. It is the fault of interference when it isn't needed, and non-interference when it is needed. Indeed, there hasn't really been a "free market" in 150 years or so. Closest we have right now is the Internet, and with Congress getting involved it's only going to ruin it.
We don't need more laws, we need more responsibility.
Democratic version: Note, I'm l[L]ibertarian, and find the humor in parent post.
1. Declare war on Social Ill Y with a bogus slogan "_______ Crisis" 2. Announce increase in taxes and/or entitlement spending 3. Repeat 2 as often as necessary for the domestic brain dead. 4. Use to increase political power locally and abroad by showing how "enlightened" you are. 5. Profit! 6. We all lose.
"the point is that since going to jail for their cause isn't necessary, they shouldn't do it. "
Here's the problem. Either the issue is one of Privacy and such or it is not. If it isn't then you'd be right, and then the whole cry of "Patriot Act is Evil" would be mute (at least pertaining to this point).
Do you want to live in a society where "its none of my business" is the rallying cry as our liberties slowly depart?
"but that's not going to help get the law changed any more than they already are"
That is YOUR opinion. It wasn't the opinion of a whole slew of people that broke the law in protest of the law they broke, much of which was successful in changing the law. In fact, breaking the law is the BEST way to change civil rights laws, IMHO.
"Only an idiot decides to go to jail when he can fight, and is fighting, just fine outside of jail."
I'm all for fighting, and not just in the courts. I'm all for gathering as many people to fight along side me too. One black lady on a bus, grew into millions of protesters of all colors. It wasn't just in the courts but rather in the court of public opinion where such battles are REALLY won.
Actually, I hear that Google is so rich they're considering buying the whole city of Nome to house the next Googleplex. Something about cooling the racks of servers.
In other news the boys at TrollTech aren't happy about Google's plans to acquire a city.
Look, it isn't like people are threatened with death. Just a comfy cell in the best jail system in the world. If that is the "worst" to keep the shrinking set of liberties (not rights) we have, I'm there. It seems you'd rather make huge leaps to "Judean People's Front" than actually realize that your point is irrational.
You may now return to the couch and act like a potato.
I doubt that. More like Heil Clinton. Bush will be gone in a year (good riddance).
And it will be exactly this.... "Papers please, or you'll end up like Vince Foster."
Though, I have to say, I didn't think it could get much worse than Bush 1, then came Clinton, then Came Bush 2. I suspect Clinton 2 is going to be the worst of all of them. Which is saying something.
200 years ago, people were hung for this sort of thing, not locked up and released. They didn't hold people indefinitely because killing them was much more efficient. Holding people forever was very rare, and today's prisons are a hotel with gourmet food compared to where they kept people 200 years ago.
"They'vedone everything they can without getting arrested."
Where's the willingness to take one for the team? If you are so scared of being "arrested", I wonder what you'll do when they threaten to kill you? So much for principles worth dying for, huh?
So, your rights only worth the threat of "Arrest"?
Some 210 years ago, a bunch of guys under threat of death decided not to take it any more. Tossed some tea in the sea, and thus you have the rights today. Doing the "right thing" isn't always easy, its still the right thing to do.
That's the problem with Tyranny. It makes doing what is RIGHT, hard. That's how it wins.
"'impossible for people... to discuss their specific concerns with the public, the press and Congress.'"
So discuss away. Have sock puppets discuss away. Have your wife discuss away. Set up a blog to record all dealings with said 3 letter organizations. So what if they try to gag you. Leak stuff to the press. Hell even DRUDGEREPORT would cover it, if nobody else would. They can't hide if you speak out.
We have a right to remain silent, and the right to SPEAK.
The only question left is, what do you stand for? If you don't speak out, neither will the next guy and the guy after that. This is how tyranny wins.
"Great, now so-called engineers can build things without knowing how they work, doesn't sound like an engineer to me, more like a simple programmer, more specifically, a java programmer. Nothing more than a glorified typist."
Actually, by the time you get to be my age (middle age) you begin to see the wisdom in children, and the utter foolishness of adults who think nothing is black and white. The children may argue "nuh uh" because they don't have a better answer, but instinctually know that they are right.
Many grownups get lost in the sophistry of arguing the "gray around the edges" sitting in wonder of their own intellect. When in reality gray is nothing more than Black and White being Confused.
There are very few things that are gray. Really. Most people get lost in the irrelevant noise. It takes wisdom to discard irrelevant information.
"Also, i think files, on average, are getting larger."
You think?!? Seriously... DUH!
This has always been the case, and will continue to be the case. Not only are they getting bigger, there are more of them. This is Geometric increases. This isn't new, nor is it insightful.
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I have a couple of solutions I use when telemarketers call. Now if more people used these methods ...
.............. and set the phone down, and wait. I had one guy hang on for 1/2 hour for me to get back ... SUCKER
..... (maybe considered a variant of 2)
1) Answer the phone, tell the person on the other end you're right in the middle of something, but if they hold on
2) Act Crazy. Talk about Aliens, UFOs, Bigfoot, whatever. Paranoidism also works. "Why do you keep calling me, what do you want"
3) Start Preaching about Buddha, Jesus, Allah, Moses, Vishnu
4) Ask if the other person is into "phone sex" and start talking dirty.
5) Try to sign them up for MLM (Amway)
6) Pretend to be abusing/being abused by your SO, while on the phone. "Stop it you bitch or I'll beat your ass again"
In fact, mix and match all you want and come up with some new ideas. ie combine 6 and 4, hilarious.
The point is, if you're having fun with it, and it wastes their time, and enough people do it, it becomes unprofitable waste of the actual human's time on the other end. The bonus is, since I've started doing this, the number of telemarketing calls has dropped to almost nothing.
When it only works with Windows, and probably only Vista when released ... then you'll understand. And you think that Yahoo's users are imprisoned?
Has anyone noticed that MS has completely stop any semblance of innovation or improvement upon products, and is now instead chasing every single idea in Tech simultaneously?
.... the list is getting longer everyday. At some point, the death by a thousand cuts will occur. No single cut will have killed, only the combination of all of them.
Google, Yahoo, Linux, Apple
You know what? You're right and absolutely wrong at the same time.
You're right that to a customer, their problems are the biggest, and nobody else's matter. However in the grand scheme of things if you dealt with every customer as if their problem was a code red emergency, then every freakin problem becomes a code red emergency.
I worked at a place where the loudest squeeky wheel got greased, in order of squeekiness. "My Mouse is broken and I have a Powerpoint presentation in ten minutes" screaming lunatic has the same priority as "the network is down", was SOP. Fix the screaming lunatic first, because his powerpoint is life and death to him, never mind the fact that the mouse hasn't worked in three weeks and this was the first you heard of it.
Proper support requires some form or Triage to assign priorities. Urgent doesn't mean Important. Lastly, I know from experience, that as long as the mentality of the "customer is always right (even when they are wrong)" then real progress cannot be made. Sometimes, just sometimes customers aren't right.
First off, Touche. I love a good ribbing ... :-D
1) Never been tried.
2) What's wrong with this?
3) Sad, isn't it?
4) Huh?
5) Again haven't been tried in a while
6) I actually believe GVMT Roll in some of these things
7) No Cherry Picking here
8) Whatever
9) Whatever
10) Too many people being (D) or (R) because of Fear and Fear.
Lets just deal with #1
Free Markets are easy to control. Corporate Charters are given by the GVMT, why aren't they revoked more often? Why aren't assets seized? Why aren't boards of directors arrested and charged for lack of proper stewardship?
Much of the problems seen in the free market isn't the fault of free markets. It is the fault of interference when it isn't needed, and non-interference when it is needed. Indeed, there hasn't really been a "free market" in 150 years or so. Closest we have right now is the Internet, and with Congress getting involved it's only going to ruin it.
We don't need more laws, we need more responsibility.
Democratic version: Note, I'm l[L]ibertarian, and find the humor in parent post.
1. Declare war on Social Ill Y with a bogus slogan "_______ Crisis"
2. Announce increase in taxes and/or entitlement spending
3. Repeat 2 as often as necessary for the domestic brain dead.
4. Use to increase political power locally and abroad by showing how "enlightened" you are.
5. Profit!
6. We all lose.
Cheers,
Hillary Roddam C.
I just can't help myself .....
In Soviet Russia, gPhone says Dvorak Doomed.
One can only hope anyway.
I have, and now I have to get a shot. Thanks!
Who knew that Skynet was WINDOWS BASED? That explains a lot!
"the point is that since going to jail for their cause isn't necessary, they shouldn't do it. "
Here's the problem. Either the issue is one of Privacy and such or it is not. If it isn't then you'd be right, and then the whole cry of "Patriot Act is Evil" would be mute (at least pertaining to this point).
Do you want to live in a society where "its none of my business" is the rallying cry as our liberties slowly depart?
"but that's not going to help get the law changed any more than they already are"
That is YOUR opinion. It wasn't the opinion of a whole slew of people that broke the law in protest of the law they broke, much of which was successful in changing the law. In fact, breaking the law is the BEST way to change civil rights laws, IMHO.
"Only an idiot decides to go to jail when he can fight, and is fighting, just fine outside of jail."
I'm all for fighting, and not just in the courts. I'm all for gathering as many people to fight along side me too. One black lady on a bus, grew into millions of protesters of all colors. It wasn't just in the courts but rather in the court of public opinion where such battles are REALLY won.
Archangel's Rules to live by ....
#538) Always sail the seas under the flag of a pirate, especially if you're pregnant.
Actually, I hear that Google is so rich they're considering buying the whole city of Nome to house the next Googleplex. Something about cooling the racks of servers.
In other news the boys at TrollTech aren't happy about Google's plans to acquire a city.
Look, it isn't like people are threatened with death. Just a comfy cell in the best jail system in the world. If that is the "worst" to keep the shrinking set of liberties (not rights) we have, I'm there. It seems you'd rather make huge leaps to "Judean People's Front" than actually realize that your point is irrational.
You may now return to the couch and act like a potato.
I doubt that. More like Heil Clinton. Bush will be gone in a year (good riddance).
.... "Papers please, or you'll end up like Vince Foster."
And it will be exactly this
Though, I have to say, I didn't think it could get much worse than Bush 1, then came Clinton, then Came Bush 2. I suspect Clinton 2 is going to be the worst of all of them. Which is saying something.
You should see what happened to the guys that signed the DoI. The Tea Party was just the warning shot.
200 years ago, people were hung for this sort of thing, not locked up and released. They didn't hold people indefinitely because killing them was much more efficient. Holding people forever was very rare, and today's prisons are a hotel with gourmet food compared to where they kept people 200 years ago.
Then whats the point of complaining about abuses and threats to liberty and all that?
You can't have it both ways. Either it is a threat to liberties or it isn't. If it is, then take one for the team, if not then sit down and shuttup.
"They'vedone everything they can without getting arrested."
Where's the willingness to take one for the team? If you are so scared of being "arrested", I wonder what you'll do when they threaten to kill you? So much for principles worth dying for, huh?
So, your rights only worth the threat of "Arrest"?
Some 210 years ago, a bunch of guys under threat of death decided not to take it any more. Tossed some tea in the sea, and thus you have the rights today. Doing the "right thing" isn't always easy, its still the right thing to do.
That's the problem with Tyranny. It makes doing what is RIGHT, hard. That's how it wins.
"'impossible for people... to discuss their specific concerns with the public, the press and Congress.'"
So discuss away. Have sock puppets discuss away. Have your wife discuss away. Set up a blog to record all dealings with said 3 letter organizations. So what if they try to gag you. Leak stuff to the press. Hell even DRUDGEREPORT would cover it, if nobody else would. They can't hide if you speak out.
We have a right to remain silent, and the right to SPEAK.
The only question left is, what do you stand for? If you don't speak out, neither will the next guy and the guy after that. This is how tyranny wins.
"Great, now so-called engineers can build things without knowing how they work, doesn't sound like an engineer to me, more like a simple programmer, more specifically, a java programmer. Nothing more than a glorified typist."
That would explain VISTA!
Actually, by the time you get to be my age (middle age) you begin to see the wisdom in children, and the utter foolishness of adults who think nothing is black and white. The children may argue "nuh uh" because they don't have a better answer, but instinctually know that they are right.
Many grownups get lost in the sophistry of arguing the "gray around the edges" sitting in wonder of their own intellect. When in reality gray is nothing more than Black and White being Confused.
There are very few things that are gray. Really. Most people get lost in the irrelevant noise. It takes wisdom to discard irrelevant information.
And Judging from that lowerish UID# he really does mean ... "HEY!"
Please go, live in Argentina, for however long that lasts.
"Also, i think files, on average, are getting larger."
... DUH!
You think?!? Seriously
This has always been the case, and will continue to be the case. Not only are they getting bigger, there are more of them. This is Geometric increases. This isn't new, nor is it insightful.