One of the more Prophetic moments in Movies. Who would have known that Apple, a few years later, would be running a version of Unix a little girl could use.
I mean why is it even "optional"? I cannot even think of a reason why ANY website would need access to my clipboard stuff, under any circumstances!
[new phishing scam] Open text document, type in password, copy the password to clipboard, click this link, and we'll verify that your password matches the one in our file. Honest!
Actually, I find you all of the above. Insightful, troll, flamebait. I agree with you and disagree with you at the same time.
Email is, at its most basic form, text. However there are times when formatting an email is useful (1). Sticking a pretty 100k graphic as a background image is NOT USEFUL(2). But because 1 often leads to 2 because and because some people think that 2 is useful, we are beyond VT100 and ELM or PINE.
So, while I agree with your sentiments, the reality is you can never go back. It is both a waste of time and energy complaining. Time to move along, to something more useful. How about a nice game of Global Thermo Nuclear Jihad?
"This will never change unless we go to socialized medicine"
Over simplification. Everywhere Socialized Medicine has taken place, over all quality of Medical Science goes down. Real innovation is paid for by "profits", no profits = little or no innovation. Where do you think all those new procedures are coming from? Sweden? Canada? the USSR? France?
While there is still innovation in socialized democracies, it truly pales in comparison to the free market of the US of A.
Don't get me wrong, I see huge problems with our current system, but IMHO they are more of a result of Insurance and Paperwork crap than anything else. There is an increasing number of Doctors across this land who are no longer taking Insurance for basic office visits. The real and suprising result is that they can provide better care, for less cost than if they had to take insurance.
The other large cost is Malpractice Get Rich schemes by parasite lawyers. The cost to a doctor in some fields is so prohibitively expensive that they are simply leaving the field. The huge cash awards given to people who have had misfortunate experiences while under the care of a doctor is no laughing matter. You know what? Life sucks, things happen, and sometimes, it isn't anyone's fault. Using courts to "pay" someone for their misfortune in some sort of lottery game is stupid, and unproductive.
Don't socialize my medicine, because I don't want the resulting crappy service that people from socialize countries are fleeing from. There is a reason why people from Canada come to the US for major problems (Heart, Cancer etc), and that is because they can't wait for 8 months while the bureaucracy grinds forward.
As always, it is a few people that screw it up for the rest of us
I'm sure their standard response is... "I've got nothing to hide". They don't realize that at this moment, something in their email is innocuous, but that same something under another circumstance is not. That joke you sent two days ago about Jewish Holidays and religious practices is innocent until the proper hate crimes are applied to it, but only if you aren't jewish. Same thing with the "N" word, which is taboo unless you are of the proper skin pigmentation group.
Also, as a complete aside...
Let me get this straight, people want to "enlarge" certain anatomical parts, so that they can be "seen" as being more impressive (see "Smiling Bob" commercial), but don't want people to know about their email containing products to supposedly accomplish said effect. Strange
Call BS all you want. I've seen it. I have seen the M$ bulletins on how to disable the automatic updates of IE7, and that seems to be rather backwards, at least to me. M$ should have made the bulletins on how to automatically install IE 7 (MSI anyone???).
As for FF taking up huge amounts of ram, not on first load. Right now, mine is only 40m, which is a lot less than the IE 7 installs I've seen.
"So here is a question, what does an IPOD have (other than after market accessories) that the Zune does not?"
1) Coolness factor. 2) Better Name 3) Simple Elegance 4) More versions From ultra small Nanos, to full versions.
And I like how you've discounted the after market accessories, as if that is some small minor detail. Trust me, that is a big part of the iPod culture, almost as big as the iPods themselves.
And don't get me going on "squirting", the ultra cool idea, which is sorely crippled by M$ and DRM, and a lousy (uncool, unhip) "name".
IE7 is not "improved" unless you mean "doesn't run right". And I suggest that M$ fire the idiot who put IE7 on the Automatic Updates "Critical" list.
I've seen enough installs (My dept manages 5500 pcs) of IE7 trying (operative word) to run on underpowered machines with not enough resources (poor school district) that the system becomes completely useless. I mean, what the hell is a browser doing using 150 MB Ram upon being opened?
I absolutely believe that M$ knew that this was going to happen, and is trying to get people to upgrade perfectly good computers because "the internet is broken", after IE7 has been installed. Our Dept is taxed enough trying to keep the machines functional, and we don't need any more "job security" from M$, thank you very much.
Suffice it to say, I've uninstalled IE7 from every computer its been installed on, because it simply doesn't work on any of them I've seen. I think I'm gonna scream the next time someone calls me and says "the internet is broken" when all it is, is IE7!
I personally think deprivation of liberty is cruel and inhumane. Now that I have defined "imprisonment" in such a way that it, itself is a violation of the whole statement against "cruel" and "inhumane".
I don't think that "dignity" (arbitrary) is a human right. What is "dignified" for you may be completely unacceptable by another society. Muslims might define it as "Burkah" for women. A nudist may think that clothes are un-dignified.
And what defines "hardship"? Does living in tents in a desert? What about the Troops in Iraq? What about Bedouin tribes? Again, what is a "hardship" for one person is normal life for another.
Elimination of torture? I can think of a few people who would complain about that, as well. LOL
"It seems the entire UN are idiots too."
Indeed, it is. They complain about the inhumane wall in Israel, the inhumane wall between Mexico and the US. It is really easy to define things in such a way that it violates their "Human Rights Committee" view of things. This is the same UN that had Lybia on its human rights committee, right? While the UN is complaining about US and Israeli "abuses", it is not lifting a finger to stop Darfur, the very thing its charter was designed to prevent. The UN is useless, as it hasn't prevent a single war yet.
"And you sir, have certain anger management issues"
I don't have anger management issues because I'm angry. I pity the poor soul who doesn't get angry over anything.
Right. Because 300 years ago, there were not health care, dental care, or sex operations, those uncivilized human rights violaters.
"This is a human rights violation."
So is imprisonment. So is handcuffing people. So is shooting them to stop them from killing someone. So, lets not stop anyone from doing anything, lets just hug them until they feel better because that will rehabilitate them.
"Jails are supposed to be for rehabilitation, not punishment."
You sir, are an idiot. First off, imprisonment is a violation of human rights, the right to be FREE. So, by your own warped view, we shouldn't even have prisons, if you are going to be consistant. Charles Manson should be free to walk around FREE because anything less is a violation of HUMAN RIGHTS.
"Ok, so he's a child molester, and that makes him "bad". But you're a murderer, and that makes you "good"?"
Ok, so he's a child molester, and that makes him "bad". But you're a imprisoner, and that makes you "good"?
The difference is that HIS actions(child rape) dictated the response(imprisonment/death penalty), one that is agreed upon by society in general. Do you want to live in a society where it is okay for 40 year old men to have sex with 8 year old girls, without consequences? Any consequence you can think of is a violation of "civil rights" at some level, which makes your whole point moot.
"Crime will always happen, regardless of laws. Laws do not grant rights, however, laws take them away."
Agreed! Like I said, I am against the Death Penalty (not for any reason you would understand). So, let us instead build a prison, where the prisoners can do anything they want to each other, for the worst of these child rapists and murderers. Give them the freedom to do to each other what we don't want them to do in the rest of society.
The worst kind of hell is designed by those that deserve it the most.
a) Trained in the "law" is a fallacious argument. The law is set up to require lawyers to decipher it. Judges are lawyers, most congress critters are lawyers, most public executive branch officers are lawyers. Do you see a problem here? The law should be easy enough that a layman can understand, and clear enough that judges cannot pull crap out of their asses to let 45 yo child (8-9 yo) rapists out on friggin "probation" because the "feel" that the system is "unfair". Idiot judges like this ruin for everyone. Screw a 8 year old, get locked up and key tossed away. What is so hard about that?
b) I've been on trial, for something I didn't do. Lasted four days. Relevant testimony could be summed up in 45 mins. Cops arrested me, for being "drunk in public", and when I clearly stated "I'm not drunk nor in public" (I wasn't) they had to change their story, three times. The cops were asshats, trying to cover their butts. However, because I'm white, and rich, I can't sue for false arrest. Had I been minority or poor, I could have played the race card and win. So, I have a particularly jaded view of "trials", and I think that people like Nancy Grace could summarize the trial nicely, in an hour show.
Just think about the SCO crap. How much of that is lawyers lawyering and how much is actually facts that affect the case? I think I could do a full hour program, summarize the case, even giving SCO all the benifit of doubt that I could muster, and it would be as clear as it is to most of here on slashdot, two or three years later. The case is about simple facts, something that SCO has failed to provide any of. All the lawyers lawyering is not for the sake of justice, but because all it takes is one idiot judge to pull some esoteric reason out of his ass to screw it up.
Exactly how do we have a society where nobody pushes "their shit" on anyone else.
The problem isn't 19 year olds having sex with 17 year olds. It is the slippery slope arguments by the idiots in ivory towers. It is stupid judges who think they know better than everyone else, who sentence child rapists of the worst kind to probation. It is people who cry like babies because people like O Reilly call attention to these outrages.
People caught messing with little kids, should be thrown into a special kind of hellish prison, and the key tossed aside. I don't mean 19 year olds screwing with 17 year olds, I'm talking the true sicko perverts.
"so don't say "you wouldn't feel that way if you were a parent either"
I wouldn't begin to think of it. People who make such a statement are stupid. Most parents and even most people I know are very protective, it is the SICKO people who don't give a flying fig about kids that ruin it for the rest of us. You don't have to be a parent to see this.
It is WANTING to look at child porn that is sick. It is WANTING to draw it that is sick. It is ACTING on those desires that is sick. I don't want Child Porn anywhere near me because I don't want the SICKOS that create it, and consume it anywhere near me.
Of course, it is always easier to blame the victims than the perpetrators. I'm sick because I don't like it. riiiiiight
You obviously don't have a clue what case I am talking about. I am talking about a MIDDLE AGE MAN who RAPED a 9 year old girl over the course of YEARS who was sentanced to "Probation" because the judge wanted him to get "counseling".
So go back into the hole you came out you ignorant twit.
And I wasn't talking about fictional cases of slippery slope arguments of ivory tower types like you. The fucking world is screwed up because of people like you, who think that "criminal justice" is about Rehabilitation, and not Punishment. I don't give a flying rats ass if these douche bags of human refuse are ever rehabilitated.
The thing of it is, true judgment can make the case between a 22 boy / 17 yo girl, or even 19 / 16 or 18 / 14 or 18 / 11 or... Oh wait, you see, slipper slope arguments are stupid. I don't see why 14 year olds need or should be having sex, period. I don't see how 16 year olds should be either. I barely see how 18 year olds can be, because most 18 year olds cannot really deal with the consequences of it. I barely was able when I was 23, and I was mature 23 (or so I thought).
So, while you can sit high and mighty in your ivory tower, the rest of us have to live with the consequences of your stupid pet theories that do NOTHING to protect society, but only lead to perversion. This world is creepy, and stained, and you may like it that way, but I don't. So why should I have to put up with it anymore than you should put up with mine? Because yours servers some high and mighty "goal", or because mine is more pragmatic?
So, take your slippery slope argument and screw yourself with it all you want. I don't want it anywhere near me or my children, thank you very much.
It doesn't work because penalties for violations against children are sometimes unpunished and people feel outraged. I'm sure you are one of those people who hate Bill O Reilly at Fox because he is a right wing blowhard or something but while you are complaining about Health Care crisis (which is tied to illegal immigration to a degree), and Iraq, he is complaining about JUDGES who sentence CHILD RAPISTS (the real kind) to PROBATION, or very short terms in jail.
This is PURE INSANITY. These people should be tortured to death (IMHO), publicaly. And I'm against the death penalty!
Our society is SICK, because we hide everything distasteful from the public. And people think we have an open society! We don't. Criminals have more rights than victims, convicted criminals have even more rights than average citizens. People in Jail should ROT (no health care, dental care, sex change operations... NOTHING) until they get out. Technology is NOT a right, Health Care is NOT a right. These are privileges of an advanced technical society. RIGHTS are not something that technology provides, they are things you are BORN WITH, whether in the jungles of South America or in New York City.
Guess what? People get sick and die. It is a part of life, distasteful as it is. Little children deserve to live in a world that doesn't have sick perverts preying upon them, where parents cannot let their kids play outside for fear of the worst.
If you think Society is better because we can make childless child porn, or allow it because of some slippery slope arguement, you're just as stupid as the judge who thinks that a child rapist needs therapy, and probation. Sorry if I sound so outraged on this, but I am. It is because we don't really think about the consequences of our ivory tower arguments and debates.
We have lost all "judgement" because of slick lawyering and ivory tower debates. Personally, I don't want to live in a society so free that I am bombarded with child porn because some ivory tower argument about freedom of speech. Those same ivory tower arguments that allow me to be bombarded with regular porn today. Society isn't any better because of it either.
Many of the same people who see no harm in pornography or even virtual child porn are the same people trying to get Joe Camel (cartoon character) away from the kids because it lead kids to smoking.
I find such a view quite laughable because they use the exact opposite argument for each. "Its just a cartoon, nobody follows up with what a cartoon does" and "Its a cartoon, kids like cartoons and they'll start smoking because of Joe".
Same thing with violent video games. There is no consistency.
One more comment on this: I think much of the type of differentiation you are seeing, is a linux distro TRYING to be different, not that it NEEDS to be. Some of the "trying" may be in the areas of improving usability, but I am 100% sure that some is "trying" to be different.
This level of differentiation is troublesome at best, because it varies from the psuedo standards that have been in place for the last 25 years or so.
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One of the more Prophetic moments in Movies. Who would have known that Apple, a few years later, would be running a version of Unix a little girl could use.
Your right!
I just passed that through Perl and wouldn't you believe it, it created a word processing program. Damn your good.
I mean why is it even "optional"? I cannot even think of a reason why ANY website would need access to my clipboard stuff, under any circumstances!
[new phishing scam]
Open text document, type in password, copy the password to clipboard, click this link, and we'll verify that your password matches the one in our file. Honest!
I can see, by your well chosen use of vocabulary, that you are quite intellectual.
Actually, I find you all of the above. Insightful, troll, flamebait. I agree with you and disagree with you at the same time.
Email is, at its most basic form, text. However there are times when formatting an email is useful (1). Sticking a pretty 100k graphic as a background image is NOT USEFUL(2). But because 1 often leads to 2 because and because some people think that 2 is useful, we are beyond VT100 and ELM or PINE.
So, while I agree with your sentiments, the reality is you can never go back. It is both a waste of time and energy complaining. Time to move along, to something more useful. How about a nice game of Global Thermo Nuclear Jihad?
BINGO!
Clearest, most concise description of the FUD we as Open Source supports should be saying. Period, end of story.
Fight FUD with FUD. They made their bed, now is the time to make them sleep in it.
"This will never change unless we go to socialized medicine"
Over simplification. Everywhere Socialized Medicine has taken place, over all quality of Medical Science goes down. Real innovation is paid for by "profits", no profits = little or no innovation. Where do you think all those new procedures are coming from? Sweden? Canada? the USSR? France?
While there is still innovation in socialized democracies, it truly pales in comparison to the free market of the US of A.
Don't get me wrong, I see huge problems with our current system, but IMHO they are more of a result of Insurance and Paperwork crap than anything else. There is an increasing number of Doctors across this land who are no longer taking Insurance for basic office visits. The real and suprising result is that they can provide better care, for less cost than if they had to take insurance.
The other large cost is Malpractice Get Rich schemes by parasite lawyers. The cost to a doctor in some fields is so prohibitively expensive that they are simply leaving the field. The huge cash awards given to people who have had misfortunate experiences while under the care of a doctor is no laughing matter. You know what? Life sucks, things happen, and sometimes, it isn't anyone's fault. Using courts to "pay" someone for their misfortune in some sort of lottery game is stupid, and unproductive.
Don't socialize my medicine, because I don't want the resulting crappy service that people from socialize countries are fleeing from. There is a reason why people from Canada come to the US for major problems (Heart, Cancer etc), and that is because they can't wait for 8 months while the bureaucracy grinds forward.
As always, it is a few people that screw it up for the rest of us
I'm sure their standard response is ... "I've got nothing to hide". They don't realize that at this moment, something in their email is innocuous, but that same something under another circumstance is not. That joke you sent two days ago about Jewish Holidays and religious practices is innocent until the proper hate crimes are applied to it, but only if you aren't jewish. Same thing with the "N" word, which is taboo unless you are of the proper skin pigmentation group.
...
Also, as a complete aside
Let me get this straight, people want to "enlarge" certain anatomical parts, so that they can be "seen" as being more impressive (see "Smiling Bob" commercial), but don't want people to know about their email containing products to supposedly accomplish said effect. Strange
Okay, it is ONE of my problems. Sheesh
No need to beat a man while he's down.
Why yes! Yes it does!
My problem is that I missed the Anonymous Coward Check box, and now, my karma has taken a hit. Sigh.
Oh well. Live and learn
Me Like Cookies! - Cookie Monster
Call BS all you want. I've seen it. I have seen the M$ bulletins on how to disable the automatic updates of IE7, and that seems to be rather backwards, at least to me. M$ should have made the bulletins on how to automatically install IE 7 (MSI anyone???).
As for FF taking up huge amounts of ram, not on first load. Right now, mine is only 40m, which is a lot less than the IE 7 installs I've seen.
"So here is a question, what does an IPOD have (other than after market accessories) that the Zune does not?"
1) Coolness factor.
2) Better Name
3) Simple Elegance
4) More versions From ultra small Nanos, to full versions.
And I like how you've discounted the after market accessories, as if that is some small minor detail. Trust me, that is a big part of the iPod culture, almost as big as the iPods themselves.
And don't get me going on "squirting", the ultra cool idea, which is sorely crippled by M$ and DRM, and a lousy (uncool, unhip) "name".
IE7 is not "improved" unless you mean "doesn't run right". And I suggest that M$ fire the idiot who put IE7 on the Automatic Updates "Critical" list.
I've seen enough installs (My dept manages 5500 pcs) of IE7 trying (operative word) to run on underpowered machines with not enough resources (poor school district) that the system becomes completely useless. I mean, what the hell is a browser doing using 150 MB Ram upon being opened?
I absolutely believe that M$ knew that this was going to happen, and is trying to get people to upgrade perfectly good computers because "the internet is broken", after IE7 has been installed. Our Dept is taxed enough trying to keep the machines functional, and we don't need any more "job security" from M$, thank you very much.
Suffice it to say, I've uninstalled IE7 from every computer its been installed on, because it simply doesn't work on any of them I've seen. I think I'm gonna scream the next time someone calls me and says "the internet is broken" when all it is, is IE7!
I personally think deprivation of liberty is cruel and inhumane. Now that I have defined "imprisonment" in such a way that it, itself is a violation of the whole statement against "cruel" and "inhumane".
I don't think that "dignity" (arbitrary) is a human right. What is "dignified" for you may be completely unacceptable by another society. Muslims might define it as "Burkah" for women. A nudist may think that clothes are un-dignified.
And what defines "hardship"? Does living in tents in a desert? What about the Troops in Iraq? What about Bedouin tribes? Again, what is a "hardship" for one person is normal life for another.
Elimination of torture? I can think of a few people who would complain about that, as well. LOL
"It seems the entire UN are idiots too."
Indeed, it is. They complain about the inhumane wall in Israel, the inhumane wall between Mexico and the US. It is really easy to define things in such a way that it violates their "Human Rights Committee" view of things. This is the same UN that had Lybia on its human rights committee, right? While the UN is complaining about US and Israeli "abuses", it is not lifting a finger to stop Darfur, the very thing its charter was designed to prevent. The UN is useless, as it hasn't prevent a single war yet.
"And you sir, have certain anger management issues"
I don't have anger management issues because I'm angry. I pity the poor soul who doesn't get angry over anything.
My signature defines the true wisdom found in crowds. Moo
"Congratulations on stepping back 300 years."
Right. Because 300 years ago, there were not health care, dental care, or sex operations, those uncivilized human rights violaters.
"This is a human rights violation."
So is imprisonment. So is handcuffing people. So is shooting them to stop them from killing someone. So, lets not stop anyone from doing anything, lets just hug them until they feel better because that will rehabilitate them.
"Jails are supposed to be for rehabilitation, not punishment."
You sir, are an idiot. First off, imprisonment is a violation of human rights, the right to be FREE. So, by your own warped view, we shouldn't even have prisons, if you are going to be consistant. Charles Manson should be free to walk around FREE because anything less is a violation of HUMAN RIGHTS.
"Ok, so he's a child molester, and that makes him "bad". But you're a murderer, and that makes you "good"?"
Ok, so he's a child molester, and that makes him "bad". But you're a imprisoner, and that makes you "good"?
The difference is that HIS actions(child rape) dictated the response(imprisonment/death penalty), one that is agreed upon by society in general. Do you want to live in a society where it is okay for 40 year old men to have sex with 8 year old girls, without consequences? Any consequence you can think of is a violation of "civil rights" at some level, which makes your whole point moot.
"Crime will always happen, regardless of laws. Laws do not grant rights, however, laws take them away."
Agreed! Like I said, I am against the Death Penalty (not for any reason you would understand). So, let us instead build a prison, where the prisoners can do anything they want to each other, for the worst of these child rapists and murderers. Give them the freedom to do to each other what we don't want them to do in the rest of society.
The worst kind of hell is designed by those that deserve it the most.
a) Trained in the "law" is a fallacious argument. The law is set up to require lawyers to decipher it. Judges are lawyers, most congress critters are lawyers, most public executive branch officers are lawyers. Do you see a problem here? The law should be easy enough that a layman can understand, and clear enough that judges cannot pull crap out of their asses to let 45 yo child (8-9 yo) rapists out on friggin "probation" because the "feel" that the system is "unfair". Idiot judges like this ruin for everyone. Screw a 8 year old, get locked up and key tossed away. What is so hard about that?
b) I've been on trial, for something I didn't do. Lasted four days. Relevant testimony could be summed up in 45 mins. Cops arrested me, for being "drunk in public", and when I clearly stated "I'm not drunk nor in public" (I wasn't) they had to change their story, three times. The cops were asshats, trying to cover their butts. However, because I'm white, and rich, I can't sue for false arrest. Had I been minority or poor, I could have played the race card and win. So, I have a particularly jaded view of "trials", and I think that people like Nancy Grace could summarize the trial nicely, in an hour show.
Just think about the SCO crap. How much of that is lawyers lawyering and how much is actually facts that affect the case? I think I could do a full hour program, summarize the case, even giving SCO all the benifit of doubt that I could muster, and it would be as clear as it is to most of here on slashdot, two or three years later. The case is about simple facts, something that SCO has failed to provide any of. All the lawyers lawyering is not for the sake of justice, but because all it takes is one idiot judge to pull some esoteric reason out of his ass to screw it up.
"The difference is that if you don't want to see porno cartoons, no one is making you"
You must be new to this internet thing. Porn is everywhere, and pornographers are targeting children.
"But don't push your shit on me."
Exactly how do we have a society where nobody pushes "their shit" on anyone else.
The problem isn't 19 year olds having sex with 17 year olds. It is the slippery slope arguments by the idiots in ivory towers. It is stupid judges who think they know better than everyone else, who sentence child rapists of the worst kind to probation. It is people who cry like babies because people like O Reilly call attention to these outrages.
People caught messing with little kids, should be thrown into a special kind of hellish prison, and the key tossed aside. I don't mean 19 year olds screwing with 17 year olds, I'm talking the true sicko perverts.
"so don't say "you wouldn't feel that way if you were a parent either"
I wouldn't begin to think of it. People who make such a statement are stupid. Most parents and even most people I know are very protective, it is the SICKO people who don't give a flying fig about kids that ruin it for the rest of us. You don't have to be a parent to see this.
Stupid
It is WANTING to look at child porn that is sick. It is WANTING to draw it that is sick. It is ACTING on those desires that is sick. I don't want Child Porn anywhere near me because I don't want the SICKOS that create it, and consume it anywhere near me.
Of course, it is always easier to blame the victims than the perpetrators. I'm sick because I don't like it. riiiiiight
You obviously don't have a clue what case I am talking about. I am talking about a MIDDLE AGE MAN who RAPED a 9 year old girl over the course of YEARS who was sentanced to "Probation" because the judge wanted him to get "counseling".
... Oh wait, you see, slipper slope arguments are stupid. I don't see why 14 year olds need or should be having sex, period. I don't see how 16 year olds should be either. I barely see how 18 year olds can be, because most 18 year olds cannot really deal with the consequences of it. I barely was able when I was 23, and I was mature 23 (or so I thought).
So go back into the hole you came out you ignorant twit.
And I wasn't talking about fictional cases of slippery slope arguments of ivory tower types like you. The fucking world is screwed up because of people like you, who think that "criminal justice" is about Rehabilitation, and not Punishment. I don't give a flying rats ass if these douche bags of human refuse are ever rehabilitated.
The thing of it is, true judgment can make the case between a 22 boy / 17 yo girl, or even 19 / 16 or 18 / 14 or 18 / 11 or
So, while you can sit high and mighty in your ivory tower, the rest of us have to live with the consequences of your stupid pet theories that do NOTHING to protect society, but only lead to perversion. This world is creepy, and stained, and you may like it that way, but I don't. So why should I have to put up with it anymore than you should put up with mine? Because yours servers some high and mighty "goal", or because mine is more pragmatic?
So, take your slippery slope argument and screw yourself with it all you want. I don't want it anywhere near me or my children, thank you very much.
It doesn't work because penalties for violations against children are sometimes unpunished and people feel outraged. I'm sure you are one of those people who hate Bill O Reilly at Fox because he is a right wing blowhard or something but while you are complaining about Health Care crisis (which is tied to illegal immigration to a degree), and Iraq, he is complaining about JUDGES who sentence CHILD RAPISTS (the real kind) to PROBATION, or very short terms in jail.
... NOTHING) until they get out. Technology is NOT a right, Health Care is NOT a right. These are privileges of an advanced technical society. RIGHTS are not something that technology provides, they are things you are BORN WITH, whether in the jungles of South America or in New York City.
This is PURE INSANITY. These people should be tortured to death (IMHO), publicaly. And I'm against the death penalty!
Our society is SICK, because we hide everything distasteful from the public. And people think we have an open society! We don't. Criminals have more rights than victims, convicted criminals have even more rights than average citizens. People in Jail should ROT (no health care, dental care, sex change operations
Guess what? People get sick and die. It is a part of life, distasteful as it is. Little children deserve to live in a world that doesn't have sick perverts preying upon them, where parents cannot let their kids play outside for fear of the worst.
If you think Society is better because we can make childless child porn, or allow it because of some slippery slope arguement, you're just as stupid as the judge who thinks that a child rapist needs therapy, and probation. Sorry if I sound so outraged on this, but I am. It is because we don't really think about the consequences of our ivory tower arguments and debates.
We have lost all "judgement" because of slick lawyering and ivory tower debates. Personally, I don't want to live in a society so free that I am bombarded with child porn because some ivory tower argument about freedom of speech. Those same ivory tower arguments that allow me to be bombarded with regular porn today. Society isn't any better because of it either.
Many of the same people who see no harm in pornography or even virtual child porn are the same people trying to get Joe Camel (cartoon character) away from the kids because it lead kids to smoking.
I find such a view quite laughable because they use the exact opposite argument for each. "Its just a cartoon, nobody follows up with what a cartoon does" and "Its a cartoon, kids like cartoons and they'll start smoking because of Joe".
Same thing with violent video games. There is no consistency.
One more comment on this: I think much of the type of differentiation you are seeing, is a linux distro TRYING to be different, not that it NEEDS to be. Some of the "trying" may be in the areas of improving usability, but I am 100% sure that some is "trying" to be different.
This level of differentiation is troublesome at best, because it varies from the psuedo standards that have been in place for the last 25 years or so.