"you are prediciting Global Climate Change then ?"
Yes. Like all the other "warm" and "cold" periods that happened long before man stepped up to plate. You believe in OLD EARTH right? Millions of years of warming and cooling, followed by more years of warming and cooling. Some of which happened without MAN involved what-so-ever.
It is only man's ego that thinks he has ANY control over this process.
If you are supporting a LINUX system where the MAINTAINER of that system doesn't know how to "start" or "stop" a daemon, with the proper incantation for that system, then you probably shouldn't support it. That is basic linux. Even "I" know that there are differences in how startup scripts are used in the various systems listed in my original post.
I would expect someone who is supposed to support MySQL would know the same. Even if I couldn't remember, I could look it up or ask (or gasp... RTFM).
Assuming one can trust the DHCP server to not send bogus and forged request to the client OS, which would then shut the thing down.
Here's the scenario: Client OS = Vista, DHCP Server is Rooted or otherwise compromised box. The client requests DHCP using standard Vista protocols, and gets a response from the Hosed server, which then sees that it is a Vista box (because the vista box tells everything), and sends either a response designed to shut it off, or worse "infect" it with a known exploit based upon current REV. values.
The more complicated things are, the easier it is to cripple them. In this case, if I were blackhat, I would deliberately seek out DHCP servers that I could exploit, and use in this method.
Isn't "Linux" "generic" almost by definition. The only differences between packages are choices and package manager and usually only a few homegrown eye candy pieces.
No really, I'm not trolling. I'm serious. I've used all sorts of different "distros", Redhat, SuSE, Debian, Slackware etc and I am able to quickly move between them because at the core of it, its all but the same. And I'm not a Linux expert by any stretch of the imagination, so if I can manage, why can't the big boys who do nothing but Linux?
Ever notice the color of clouds, they're white. More water in the oceans, warmer oceans = more clouds. You think this might be some sort of "balance"??
Nooo, we can't have balance, and we can't include other factors in discussing global warming because the great mind of Al Gore says so.
More clouds = more rain, especially in deserts which will cause the desserts to bloom with all sorts of folliage and the great Sahara Forrest will be born, causing the CO2 levels to plummet, causing a huge global cooling period called an "ice age", somewhere in the next 5k-10k years.
The ice packs of the arctic will increase causing Al Gore the XXXXIV to scream about global cooling from the "new White House", on the NSS GEORGE H BUSH, DC (Floating capitol city of United Pan American States).
There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.
Measure anything human activity with statistics and it can be fudged and defrauded.
In this case, I think the more accurate measure would not be "web hits" but rather a measure of average time visiting said site. A pop-up ad is visted perhaps 1.2 seconds, while a legitimate site much longer, statistically speaking. Average clicks once on a site is another possible measure. Refering site is another item that can be used to uncover fraud.
I think a broader measure of other statistical information would be much more revealing than simple clickthroughs and impressions.
Ireland was less about religion than it was about identity and nationalism. Zealots didn't kill greeks, they killed "apostate" Jews (Messianics). It was later turned around into state sponsored terrorism when Rome became "christianized" in around AD 324. After the conversion of the pagans into the Roman Sun God turned Christianity, the Jews were highly persecuted by the state.
CI is a FRINGE group, and not taught in "churches", at least as a matter of course.
However, Radical Islam, is standard fair, and taught all over the place. I can name several prominent Muslim Clerics just off the top of my head. I cannot do the same for CI. Besides, when was the last time a CIer hijacked a plane, blew up a building, set an IED, destroyed a Mosque, Church or Synagogue?
The problem here, is that you want to marginalize Radical Islam and make it seem like it is just a few wackos, when the reality is, radical = mainstream.
Further, most "christians" are willing and do denounce violence from such groups as CIers. I have yet to see such boldness from the Muslim communities, except in VERY RARE CASES, and then, those people usually end up hiding for the rest of their lives. Do you remember Salman Rushdie? All he did was write a FICTIONAL NOVEL.
Now compare to the violence associated with "The Last Temptation of Christ". Right, what violence. There wasn't any.
While you may like to try to compare the extremes, but there is no comparison, because nominal christianity and judiasm is not "extreme", whereas nominal Islam in its current state IS.
I find your lack of insight very interesting. In four years, 16 gigs will hardly be enough.
I suspect it will be closer to 32 Gigs, and after looking at Vista, I am sure of it. Four Years ago, 256 was the minimum to run WinXP, today, it is more like 1GB is my minimum with 2 Gigs being optimal. 4-8x in four years. Today, I wouldn't recommend Vista with anything less than 2 full gigs of Ram, and highly recommend 4. 4-8x would most likely put Vista's 4 year at 16 gigs MINIMUM, and probably more like 32.
Off Topic, I know. So don't flame me too bad. But I just couldn't let the partisan idiot go by with his snide remarks.
"There is something reminiscent of the modern Republican party in your response, though. Oversimplification, not accepting personal responsibility, and proposing an impossible solution."
Actually, the same can be said of Democrats as well. End Poverty, tax the rich. As for personal responsibility and such, go talk to the PI lawyers that line the coffers of democrats running for office.
"The only thing missing is you haven't suggested paying for it by lowering taxes."
Well, since most of the spending done by the government is "entitlements", I suppose that cutting spending is out of the question. Every freaking time there is a surplus, the tax and spend liberals, and the tax cut and spend neo-cons start new "programs" that are designed to do one thing or another, without any ability to actually EOL them.
Personally, I would like people to take responsibility for themselves more and learn from disasters like Katrina. The government is USELESS, and if you think they are going to "help" you, you better get your head examined.
And just so you know, but LIBERAL Democrats and CONSERVATIVE Republicans were to blame for the crap that happened in NO. Why? Because neither one really care about people, only their own skins.
It isn't about taking shoes off, it isn't about screening grandma for knitting needles. It is about costing BILLIONS in wasted effort to contain something that isn't worth BILLIONS to protect, one airplane, full of people aren't worth "billions". Four Airplanes full of people aren't worth "billions".
The mistake made was that we were taught to not resist hi-jackers, and to let them control the freaking plane, so that they wouldn't kill US. However that idea is now shot to hell, because we know that doesn't solve the problem.
Resistance solves the problem. Resistance is the most effective counter measure against ANY radical element.
There are schools now, teaching kids how to "rush" at a school sniper/killer (Columbine) type attacker. Throwing anything and everything at the attacker rather than hiding and cowering under the desks, waiting to be picked off one by one.
BTW, I've read Sun Tzu, I only wish our politicians would.
"Most followers of the Bible would likely argue that only a small radical slice of zealots would actually follow through with these things."
Uh huh. Not blind? But unable to see the riots over a FREAKING CARTOON! When was the last time you saw a Riot in Texas because someone "insulted" Jesus? When was the last time you saw a riot in Israel when someone insulted the Jewish G-D?
Uh huh. That's what I thought. Are you willing to die for your beliefs? You willing to kill to defend them? The war isn't over Terrorism, it is over Radical Islam*. They have proven their willingness to die and kill for it, they teach it, the live it. You willing to do the same to prevent it? Now, isn't that radical thought?
*Possible Redundancy Error, please verify. Y / N ?
Okay, I'll feed the troll. WHY? Are you a muslim? You gonna kill me for suggesting such a thing? You gonna stab me and leave me dead with a note attached? You gonna threaten me and my family with death or dismemberment if I don't convert?
Koran 5:33 The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger is : Execution or Crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or exile from the land.
Okay, so maybe you aren't a muslim. Do you even know what Muslims teach from the Koran (see above quote). This is but ONE of many such verses, which require DEATH or dismemberment for Apostates and Infidels.
19 Hijackers killed some 4000 people, or about 200 people per hijacker. Totally destroyed several buildings, but all in a geographic location. Very spectacular. One building, in another geographic location, partially destroyed. One plane, completely missed.
I suspect that if they coordinated across 20 of the largest airports during the busiest time they could probably do a lot more damage (kill more people), without having to go through any security. But see, that wouldn't be as "Spectacular" as having buildings crash down.
Terrorism is a tactic, not the enemy. Islam isn't even the enemy, it is an idiology/religion. The enemy is RADICAL MUSLIMS*
This whole airline TSA thing is a crock of BS. Over Kill.
So, a bunch of terrorists captured a couple of airplanes and flew them into buildings. Yeah, a bunch of people died, which is tragic. And the Economy Burped, which is... expected.
However, we've learned our lesson, and have secured the airplanes better. In addition, I doubt, HIGHLY DOUBT, that they could get anywhere close to doing the same thing, given the same circumstances, mainly because the passengers wouldn't stand for it.
Screening 80 year old grandmas of their knitting needles is stupid. Taking off shoes is stupid. Banning Liquids is stupid. For all the inconvenience of it all, it will not prevent someone from trying to by-pass whatever security is setup, and eventually they will succeed.
I know for a fact that I could bring a knife on board a plane even today, even passing through all the security. They can't stop me if they can't see it. And there are such knives available.
The point is, all this "security" isn't really designed to prevent hi-jackers, it is designed to placate the masses. See my sig for more info
I *MOSTLY* trust the military. It is the civilians in charge of the Military that scare me more (most???). I don't trust them at all. It is the civilians that place nearly impossible demands on the military.
Kill the enemy, but not civilians (even though they might be the enemy).
Don't kill the enemy if they are hiding in Mosques, even if they are killing you, for you might "offend" them and their "sacred" shrines.
Extract information from prisoners, but don't "torture" them or anything even remotely close to torture.
Quite frankly the military has done a quite remarkable job, and will continue to do so. Don't beat them up because some politico can't figure out what he/she wants.
Not really. Because Technology grows so much faster, we measure it much like we measure dogs in dog years. In reality, Internet 2 is almost 35 already and well past her prime. If you wait 8 more years, Internet2 will be a mature woman of nearly 65, and not that pretty to look at.
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"There are plenty of Earthly processes that make things HARDER, not easier."
Here we are having a nice scientific discussion, and you had to bring PORN into it. Sheesh
"you are prediciting Global Climate Change then ?"
Yes. Like all the other "warm" and "cold" periods that happened long before man stepped up to plate. You believe in OLD EARTH right? Millions of years of warming and cooling, followed by more years of warming and cooling. Some of which happened without MAN involved what-so-ever.
It is only man's ego that thinks he has ANY control over this process.
If you are supporting a LINUX system where the MAINTAINER of that system doesn't know how to "start" or "stop" a daemon, with the proper incantation for that system, then you probably shouldn't support it. That is basic linux. Even "I" know that there are differences in how startup scripts are used in the various systems listed in my original post.
... RTFM).
I would expect someone who is supposed to support MySQL would know the same. Even if I couldn't remember, I could look it up or ask (or gasp
No good joke goes unsaid.
Assuming one can trust the DHCP server to not send bogus and forged request to the client OS, which would then shut the thing down.
Here's the scenario: Client OS = Vista, DHCP Server is Rooted or otherwise compromised box. The client requests DHCP using standard Vista protocols, and gets a response from the Hosed server, which then sees that it is a Vista box (because the vista box tells everything), and sends either a response designed to shut it off, or worse "infect" it with a known exploit based upon current REV. values.
The more complicated things are, the easier it is to cripple them. In this case, if I were blackhat, I would deliberately seek out DHCP servers that I could exploit, and use in this method.
"Generic Linux"???
Isn't "Linux" "generic" almost by definition. The only differences between packages are choices and package manager and usually only a few homegrown eye candy pieces.
No really, I'm not trolling. I'm serious. I've used all sorts of different "distros", Redhat, SuSE, Debian, Slackware etc and I am able to quickly move between them because at the core of it, its all but the same. And I'm not a Linux expert by any stretch of the imagination, so if I can manage, why can't the big boys who do nothing but Linux?
Ever notice the color of clouds, they're white. More water in the oceans, warmer oceans = more clouds. You think this might be some sort of "balance"??
Nooo, we can't have balance, and we can't include other factors in discussing global warming because the great mind of Al Gore says so.
More clouds = more rain, especially in deserts which will cause the desserts to bloom with all sorts of folliage and the great Sahara Forrest will be born, causing the CO2 levels to plummet, causing a huge global cooling period called an "ice age", somewhere in the next 5k-10k years.
The ice packs of the arctic will increase causing Al Gore the XXXXIV to scream about global cooling from the "new White House", on the NSS GEORGE H BUSH, DC (Floating capitol city of United Pan American States).
"Shouldn't it read "Sea Snail Toxin Offers Promise For Pain SUFFERERS"?"
:-D
Just like insanity, I don't suffer pain. I enjoy every minute of it.
Bingo!
There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.
Measure anything human activity with statistics and it can be fudged and defrauded.
In this case, I think the more accurate measure would not be "web hits" but rather a measure of average time visiting said site. A pop-up ad is visted perhaps 1.2 seconds, while a legitimate site much longer, statistically speaking. Average clicks once on a site is another possible measure. Refering site is another item that can be used to uncover fraud.
I think a broader measure of other statistical information would be much more revealing than simple clickthroughs and impressions.
Ireland was less about religion than it was about identity and nationalism. Zealots didn't kill greeks, they killed "apostate" Jews (Messianics). It was later turned around into state sponsored terrorism when Rome became "christianized" in around AD 324. After the conversion of the pagans into the Roman Sun God turned Christianity, the Jews were highly persecuted by the state.
CI is a FRINGE group, and not taught in "churches", at least as a matter of course.
However, Radical Islam, is standard fair, and taught all over the place. I can name several prominent Muslim Clerics just off the top of my head. I cannot do the same for CI. Besides, when was the last time a CIer hijacked a plane, blew up a building, set an IED, destroyed a Mosque, Church or Synagogue?
The problem here, is that you want to marginalize Radical Islam and make it seem like it is just a few wackos, when the reality is, radical = mainstream.
Further, most "christians" are willing and do denounce violence from such groups as CIers. I have yet to see such boldness from the Muslim communities, except in VERY RARE CASES, and then, those people usually end up hiding for the rest of their lives. Do you remember Salman Rushdie? All he did was write a FICTIONAL NOVEL.
Now compare to the violence associated with "The Last Temptation of Christ". Right, what violence. There wasn't any.
While you may like to try to compare the extremes, but there is no comparison, because nominal christianity and judiasm is not "extreme", whereas nominal Islam in its current state IS.
I find your lack of insight very interesting. In four years, 16 gigs will hardly be enough.
I suspect it will be closer to 32 Gigs, and after looking at Vista, I am sure of it. Four Years ago, 256 was the minimum to run WinXP, today, it is more like 1GB is my minimum with 2 Gigs being optimal. 4-8x in four years. Today, I wouldn't recommend Vista with anything less than 2 full gigs of Ram, and highly recommend 4. 4-8x would most likely put Vista's 4 year at 16 gigs MINIMUM, and probably more like 32.
My $.02
Off Topic, I know. So don't flame me too bad. But I just couldn't let the partisan idiot go by with his snide remarks.
"There is something reminiscent of the modern Republican party in your response, though. Oversimplification, not accepting personal responsibility, and proposing an impossible solution."
Actually, the same can be said of Democrats as well. End Poverty, tax the rich. As for personal responsibility and such, go talk to the PI lawyers that line the coffers of democrats running for office.
"The only thing missing is you haven't suggested paying for it by lowering taxes."
Well, since most of the spending done by the government is "entitlements", I suppose that cutting spending is out of the question. Every freaking time there is a surplus, the tax and spend liberals, and the tax cut and spend neo-cons start new "programs" that are designed to do one thing or another, without any ability to actually EOL them.
Personally, I would like people to take responsibility for themselves more and learn from disasters like Katrina. The government is USELESS, and if you think they are going to "help" you, you better get your head examined.
And just so you know, but LIBERAL Democrats and CONSERVATIVE Republicans were to blame for the crap that happened in NO. Why? Because neither one really care about people, only their own skins.
What do you call vaporware that has been so vaporous over the years it becomes a joke?
... DukeNukemForever
I mean there are a very few that reach this lofty goal, most notably
Not exactly "Vaporware" anymore, more of a running joke
You sir, are an idiot.
It isn't about taking shoes off, it isn't about screening grandma for knitting needles. It is about costing BILLIONS in wasted effort to contain something that isn't worth BILLIONS to protect, one airplane, full of people aren't worth "billions". Four Airplanes full of people aren't worth "billions".
The mistake made was that we were taught to not resist hi-jackers, and to let them control the freaking plane, so that they wouldn't kill US. However that idea is now shot to hell, because we know that doesn't solve the problem.
Resistance solves the problem. Resistance is the most effective counter measure against ANY radical element.
There are schools now, teaching kids how to "rush" at a school sniper/killer (Columbine) type attacker. Throwing anything and everything at the attacker rather than hiding and cowering under the desks, waiting to be picked off one by one.
BTW, I've read Sun Tzu, I only wish our politicians would.
"Most followers of the Bible would likely argue that only a small radical slice of zealots would actually follow through with these things."
Uh huh. Not blind? But unable to see the riots over a FREAKING CARTOON! When was the last time you saw a Riot in Texas because someone "insulted" Jesus? When was the last time you saw a riot in Israel when someone insulted the Jewish G-D?
Uh huh. That's what I thought. Are you willing to die for your beliefs? You willing to kill to defend them? The war isn't over Terrorism, it is over Radical Islam*. They have proven their willingness to die and kill for it, they teach it, the live it. You willing to do the same to prevent it? Now, isn't that radical thought?
*Possible Redundancy Error, please verify. Y / N ?
Bigoted? Asshole?
Okay, I'll feed the troll. WHY? Are you a muslim? You gonna kill me for suggesting such a thing? You gonna stab me and leave me dead with a note attached? You gonna threaten me and my family with death or dismemberment if I don't convert?
Koran 5:33
The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger is : Execution or Crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or exile from the land.
Okay, so maybe you aren't a muslim. Do you even know what Muslims teach from the Koran (see above quote). This is but ONE of many such verses, which require DEATH or dismemberment for Apostates and Infidels.
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19 Hijackers killed some 4000 people, or about 200 people per hijacker. Totally destroyed several buildings, but all in a geographic location. Very spectacular. One building, in another geographic location, partially destroyed. One plane, completely missed.
/N ???
I suspect that if they coordinated across 20 of the largest airports during the busiest time they could probably do a lot more damage (kill more people), without having to go through any security. But see, that wouldn't be as "Spectacular" as having buildings crash down.
Terrorism is a tactic, not the enemy. Islam isn't even the enemy, it is an idiology/religion. The enemy is RADICAL MUSLIMS*
*Possible redundancy detected, please confirm. Y
This whole airline TSA thing is a crock of BS. Over Kill.
... expected.
So, a bunch of terrorists captured a couple of airplanes and flew them into buildings. Yeah, a bunch of people died, which is tragic. And the Economy Burped, which is
However, we've learned our lesson, and have secured the airplanes better. In addition, I doubt, HIGHLY DOUBT, that they could get anywhere close to doing the same thing, given the same circumstances, mainly because the passengers wouldn't stand for it.
Screening 80 year old grandmas of their knitting needles is stupid. Taking off shoes is stupid. Banning Liquids is stupid. For all the inconvenience of it all, it will not prevent someone from trying to by-pass whatever security is setup, and eventually they will succeed.
I know for a fact that I could bring a knife on board a plane even today, even passing through all the security. They can't stop me if they can't see it. And there are such knives available.
The point is, all this "security" isn't really designed to prevent hi-jackers, it is designed to placate the masses. See my sig for more info
"Anything you can do, I can do better .... "
You missed two: Military/Industrial/Political/Media Complex.
.... General Electric.
Two Words
I *MOSTLY* trust the military. It is the civilians in charge of the Military that scare me more (most???). I don't trust them at all. It is the civilians that place nearly impossible demands on the military.
Kill the enemy, but not civilians (even though they might be the enemy).
Don't kill the enemy if they are hiding in Mosques, even if they are killing you, for you might "offend" them and their "sacred" shrines.
Extract information from prisoners, but don't "torture" them or anything even remotely close to torture.
Quite frankly the military has done a quite remarkable job, and will continue to do so. Don't beat them up because some politico can't figure out what he/she wants.
Not really. Because Technology grows so much faster, we measure it much like we measure dogs in dog years. In reality, Internet 2 is almost 35 already and well past her prime. If you wait 8 more years, Internet2 will be a mature woman of nearly 65, and not that pretty to look at.
I'm not tailgating, I'm Drafting. The extra 5% gas savings, is awesome, AND I have the benefit of saving the planet from greenhouse gases.