Facebook, Google, MS... all three of these actually preform some kind of service for the data. The other beasts... the ones who offer no services but simple collect and peddle data are even worse. Acxiom, Corelogic, Datalogix, eBureau, ID Analytics, Intelius, Palantir, PeekYou, Rapleaf, and Recorded Future; these companies business is to collect and sell it data, and they've been around a long time.
People have been complaining for a long time about these groups, but i think this new wave of anger is because the masses are finally figuring out what only the few have known: data is power, and when it's abused, everything gets fucked quick. It's not a D or R thing, it's the fact that a lot more people are witnessing how things get fucked when they shouldn't.
It's a mirror of a lot of things in life.... some people see the problems before they happen, other's don't until it happens to them, some never do because they prefer to live in a fantasy land.
Or more because the old people in charge are finally starting to get their collective head around this new internet thingy. Eternal September just got a lot more eternal.
"I won’t name names or give examples because I’m not an asshole. But also because I don’t have to. I’d wager everyone reading this will have clear and obvious examples of what I’m talking about in their own circles—even if only in their own virtual circles. This is everywhere."
Also fails to consider people outside these circles. Come on then, what kind of dumb ass shit are they coming out with?
Here's an idea, Stallman: do something productive for society and make products people can actually use (in other words, win on the market) rather than faking for government goons to enforce your will with guns.
"Pass a law to solve a problem" is the refrain of the incompetent.
Because, for some reason, tons of people want to act like assembling IKEA furniture is some incredible, impossible task that no one can ever decently do right without taking an entire weekend. So of course let's act like these robots are a genius solving super puzzles.
Kinda like the notion that setting the clock on your oven is some impossible task that requires the combined intellect of all the world's finest thinkers.
My hat goes off the the QC guy who makes sure on every single item there is always one screw that won't go in properly. I've never heard of him missing a single one. Now that man IS a machine!
If you struggle with building flat pack, build this robot instead. Honestly if you can't manage to put ikea stuff together a robot is the last thing you need.
Pretty sure any firearm can be deadly. Same thing with rocks, or steel bats, or cars, or fast food, or cell phones? I can keep listing shit if you want.
Yes but how many of those things are designed to be specifically and only deadly? Firearms. How many things can be used as an improvised weapon? Basically anything.
So if ol' Trump was taking credit for 0 airline deaths in 2017 (https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/donald-trump-commercial-aviation-no-deaths-2017-regulation-passenger-flight-safety-twitter-a8138116.html) even though it's nothing really do with him does that mean this is on him? Somehow I doubt it.
1) Going to city hall.
2) Asking to see a public court record by case number.
3) They hand you a microfilm holding that case and others.
4) You decide to pay for photocopies of everything on the roll instead of just the case number you originally asked about.
There's no trespassing involved in this situation, but somehow because it's "on a computer" suddenly you can go to prison for a decade and have every computer in your house taken even if they're not yours and you've never touched them before?
- WolfWings, too lazy to login to/. in far too long.
No its asking for document 1, then asking for document 2 etc. Not realising you have everything and just need to look. It's not the kids fault no one checked if he was allowed what he asked for. You can't even assume the kid knows that or if he did is even sure after it willingly gives hims loads of documents no questions asked.
My leaving my front door unlocked does not mean you aren't guilty if breaking and entering if you open the door, walk in, and take something that isn't yours.
Unauthorised entry maybe, breaking and entering? Nope, you left your front door open after all. Besides the actual crime there is the theft, someone could just walk in look around and leave, or make copies of your shit and leave the original or any number of things that the lack of security enabled, which is essentially why we have security. Picking something that is not yours up off the street is a lot different to breaking into a vault.
Remember when Trump tweeted about how bombing syria was a really bad idea when Obama did it, now it's mission accomplished apparently. He is a very stable genius after all.
Everyone who buys a Mac is paying to subsidise the continued maintenance and support of the 32-bit versions of system libraries. Very few people are actually using these libraries. You seem to want other people to subsidise your purchasing decisions either way.
Everyone who buys a mac is subsidising a lot of things.
There are plenty of film festivals in the USA with loads of prestige. Netflix doesn't need Cannes, and Cannes loses prestige as a result of this ruling.
On another note, this spat can be expanded into the field of sport. American cycling teams don't need the prestige of the Tour de France. The USA has much more spectacular cycling routes through the Rocky Mountains of the USA, in comparison to the Pyrenees and Alpine routes used by the Tour de France.
And an American team wins the world series every time.
This is why I say that. Sure it will work fine for some people in some areas but reliably doing it across the entire userbase (that has enabled mic access if it even cares about permissions), plus all the other processing that will need to go on to isolate each voice and everything just so they can determine you mentioned nickleback and then it can advertise other bland rock to you or whatever product that may be (how many words/phrases are we even listening for here? Lots is my guess) just makes the whole scheme seem unfeasable in a effort/payoff ratio. Sure it's technically possible but why would they bother when they have all this other shit available to them?
Do people actually think they're analysing the audio streams of every device waiting for people to say certain words/products so they can advertise that back to them? Real time analysis of millions of audio streams in many languages/accents? Yeah right.
Slashdot Mirror
Facebook, Google, MS... all three of these actually preform some kind of service for the data. The other beasts... the ones who offer no services but simple collect and peddle data are even worse. Acxiom, Corelogic, Datalogix, eBureau, ID Analytics, Intelius, Palantir, PeekYou, Rapleaf, and Recorded Future; these companies business is to collect and sell it data, and they've been around a long time. People have been complaining for a long time about these groups, but i think this new wave of anger is because the masses are finally figuring out what only the few have known: data is power, and when it's abused, everything gets fucked quick. It's not a D or R thing, it's the fact that a lot more people are witnessing how things get fucked when they shouldn't. It's a mirror of a lot of things in life.... some people see the problems before they happen, other's don't until it happens to them, some never do because they prefer to live in a fantasy land.
Or more because the old people in charge are finally starting to get their collective head around this new internet thingy. Eternal September just got a lot more eternal.
"really smart people—saying some of the most vacuous things."
What things. Just one example.?
This article is a joke with no punchline.
I think the article itself might have been the example? Maybe it's too meta for us non valley folks.
The author submitted it and then it seems everyone wants to comment that it shouldn't be here thus making it here.
"I won’t name names or give examples because I’m not an asshole. But also because I don’t have to. I’d wager everyone reading this will have clear and obvious examples of what I’m talking about in their own circles—even if only in their own virtual circles. This is everywhere."
Also fails to consider people outside these circles. Come on then, what kind of dumb ass shit are they coming out with?
They will continue doing things we hate unless we make the things we hate illegal.
Did you create an account just to post that? If so kudos for the dedication to the comment lol
Here's an idea, Stallman: do something productive for society and make products people can actually use (in other words, win on the market) rather than faking for government goons to enforce your will with guns.
"Pass a law to solve a problem" is the refrain of the incompetent.
Just don't tell them. Simple.
Because, for some reason, tons of people want to act like assembling IKEA furniture is some incredible, impossible task that no one can ever decently do right without taking an entire weekend. So of course let's act like these robots are a genius solving super puzzles.
Kinda like the notion that setting the clock on your oven is some impossible task that requires the combined intellect of all the world's finest thinkers.
My hat goes off the the QC guy who makes sure on every single item there is always one screw that won't go in properly. I've never heard of him missing a single one. Now that man IS a machine!
If you struggle with building flat pack, build this robot instead. Honestly if you can't manage to put ikea stuff together a robot is the last thing you need.
Keep it up. That's how your going to get a second term.
My going to get a second term?
Pretty sure any firearm can be deadly. Same thing with rocks, or steel bats, or cars, or fast food, or cell phones? I can keep listing shit if you want.
Yes but how many of those things are designed to be specifically and only deadly? Firearms. How many things can be used as an improvised weapon? Basically anything.
If you didn't would the armed security be necessary? And who was the one who put all their information into his site?
So if ol' Trump was taking credit for 0 airline deaths in 2017 (https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/donald-trump-commercial-aviation-no-deaths-2017-regulation-passenger-flight-safety-twitter-a8138116.html) even though it's nothing really do with him does that mean this is on him? Somehow I doubt it.
No, that's a facetious comparison.
An apt comparison would be:
1) Going to city hall. 2) Asking to see a public court record by case number. 3) They hand you a microfilm holding that case and others. 4) You decide to pay for photocopies of everything on the roll instead of just the case number you originally asked about.
There's no trespassing involved in this situation, but somehow because it's "on a computer" suddenly you can go to prison for a decade and have every computer in your house taken even if they're not yours and you've never touched them before?
- WolfWings, too lazy to login to /. in far too long.
No its asking for document 1, then asking for document 2 etc. Not realising you have everything and just need to look. It's not the kids fault no one checked if he was allowed what he asked for. You can't even assume the kid knows that or if he did is even sure after it willingly gives hims loads of documents no questions asked.
No layer of security, no fucking crime
My leaving my front door unlocked does not mean you aren't guilty if breaking and entering if you open the door, walk in, and take something that isn't yours.
Unauthorised entry maybe, breaking and entering? Nope, you left your front door open after all. Besides the actual crime there is the theft, someone could just walk in look around and leave, or make copies of your shit and leave the original or any number of things that the lack of security enabled, which is essentially why we have security. Picking something that is not yours up off the street is a lot different to breaking into a vault.
Stay ontopic please.
HAHA good one.
Remember when Trump tweeted about how bombing syria was a really bad idea when Obama did it, now it's mission accomplished apparently. He is a very stable genius after all.
Close enough ;)
Everyone who buys a Mac is paying to subsidise the continued maintenance and support of the 32-bit versions of system libraries. Very few people are actually using these libraries. You seem to want other people to subsidise your purchasing decisions either way.
Everyone who buys a mac is subsidising a lot of things.
There are plenty of film festivals in the USA with loads of prestige. Netflix doesn't need Cannes, and Cannes loses prestige as a result of this ruling.
On another note, this spat can be expanded into the field of sport. American cycling teams don't need the prestige of the Tour de France. The USA has much more spectacular cycling routes through the Rocky Mountains of the USA, in comparison to the Pyrenees and Alpine routes used by the Tour de France.
And an American team wins the world series every time.
And as a result, people actually go out and the cities are enjoyable... unlike many US cities which are deserted after work hours.
Are cinemas the only thing to do in france or something?
It's not a dupe, it's semi-unique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
This is why I say that. Sure it will work fine for some people in some areas but reliably doing it across the entire userbase (that has enabled mic access if it even cares about permissions), plus all the other processing that will need to go on to isolate each voice and everything just so they can determine you mentioned nickleback and then it can advertise other bland rock to you or whatever product that may be (how many words/phrases are we even listening for here? Lots is my guess) just makes the whole scheme seem unfeasable in a effort/payoff ratio. Sure it's technically possible but why would they bother when they have all this other shit available to them?
I found out recently I'm 2% Ashkenazi jew, and I wouldn't be surprised if some AI caught the word "nazi jew" out of that.
Does that mean Scunthorpe is going to be purged from the internet?
Do people actually think they're analysing the audio streams of every device waiting for people to say certain words/products so they can advertise that back to them? Real time analysis of millions of audio streams in many languages/accents? Yeah right.