Thank you for your insight. It is well thought out and expressed. However . ..
I am very much more pessimistic than you. You state that you don't think they will win in the end. I fear that they will.
If we take predictions in Sci-Fi literature from over ten years ago they point to the peoples biggest oppressor being not the government but large corporations who have been given practical control of the peoples by the government. The trends of these literatures have been followed these predictions more than they have deviated.
Saying that they will win in the end makes me think of England just before the settlers came to America. Surely at the time the people said "How can the government dictate what my religious beliefs are or how I choose to worship." But they did. In the same way I can imagine the settlers of the new world saying "How can every piece of paper that I used be taxed and taxed again?" But it was. In the same way we are saying "How can thought stuff, ideas and numbers be so controlled by the government?"
One of the keys of escaping the previous problems was "The New World". The protestants left to go to the new world. The settlers rebeled and formed their own government (and I would not underestimate the added advantage of the land being so far away from mother England).
But where are we to go now? Under they sea? In space? In the virtual world of computers and networks? None of these are currently viable options. Sense, we have no way of escape, and open rebellion appears dubious at best, I can EASILY see how the government can empower the corporations to stop our exchange of information. Just as mother England put unreasonable taxes and countries in europe dictated how and what religion everyone must follow.
". . . had concerns about the possiblity of even the archiving of shows for the long term, thus potentially taking away from later profits off rebroadcasting or selling/renting of copies of the program."
This shows just how out of touch with reality these people (the broadcasters) are. Last night I watched Return of the Jedi on T.V. GOOD GOD I OWN MULTIPLE TAPES OF IT!!! I STILL watched it on T.V.
They could be making SOOOOO much more money if they utilized human nature more (much like software companies have and look at how much more successful they are).
This commment should not be underrated. I have personally become more aware of this affect on me in the last couple of years.
Example 1: I have noticed that after seeing a commercial for a fast food product a few times I start to crave the product. The first few times I see it I don't think anything of it. But after seeing it a while I think to myself "Hm, I think I'll try that".
Example 2: I have been in a store buying a product I have never really bought before (or don't buy on a regular basis). After looking at the choices I have become aware that I desire the choice that I am familiar with. How do I become familiar with one product over another without ever really using the product? I realize that I have seen it on T.V. I thought process is "well, the have the money to advertise so I hope the have to money to develop a good product".
It is only after trying different products that I might figure out that a brand not advertised is better. And if I don't really have the regular need of the product to try it guess who won that "customer battle" for me. . . the advertiser.
It's funny. I remember when T.V. shows weren't allowed to show brand names. I guess they changed that because I noticed (I think Seinfield was the first time I noticed) that brands were "back". I thought they had product placement in T.V. way back and then removed it?
I would like to point out to you how you CAN get the government officials to listen to you. I have pointed this out before and I will continue until the Slashdot crowd gets it.
YOU, yes, YOU have lobbiest who are voicing your opinions to the government RIGHT NOW. These lobbiests have (near) the same power as the corporate lobbyiest and in fact some of them ARE corporate lobbiest. And that lobbyist is contributing RIGHT NOW, just like the RIAA's lobbyist, to the congressmen for access.
Where is that lobbyist getting his money? From you. Whenever you donate to the EFF, Sierra Club, NRA, Greenpeace, MADD, Mothers against Guns or any other orginization it uses that money for lobbying efforts to further it's agenda (if it doesn't it's not a good orginization and you should not contribute to them). Lobbyists are your loud voice to our officials.
You stated that the only reason we might win this one is because other large corporations are against it. How are those large corporations getting access? Their lobbyiest. In this case their lobbyist are our voice to our government.
I get SICK of hearing that "no-one" is representing our view to our officials or that "we don't have the money that the RIAA has so we won't be listened too". This is absolutely false.
If our view isn't being listened to then GIVE MORE MONEY to orginizations that lobby for your views (the EFF would be a good one in this case). An alternative to giving more money would be to get others to join and give what they can to the orginization if they agree with you. And listen here, I am really not talking about you starving college kids who are trying to get through college. I am talking about all you folks living high on the hog from your profits of the Dot Com era (that is a little joke). Seriously, those of you professionals who own nice houses SHOULD be contributing if you REALLY believe in these issues.
WE DO HAVE A VOICE!!!
(Except for 60 days before an election when it is illegal for us to purchase T.V. ad time to state our views . . . but that is different problem).
The last time I checked there were no LAWS stating that I couldn't dupe my CD to tape so I can listen to it in my car. And the second method of "LAW" in our nation, CASE PRECENDENCE, actually states or more properly JUDGES it to be LEGAL to do so.
A natural extension to this would be that I would be allowed to rip my CD to listen to it on my portable MP3 player because it doesn't skip like a CD player on my motorcycle. It is also LEGAL for me to loan my CD to a friend or even SELL IT to him if I don't want it anymore.
Don't give us your rightous attitude of "what your doing is still illegal" when IT IS NOT!!!! And in fact the very question to "Ask Slashdot" was "How can we make your fair use illegal without pissing you off."
You are wrong about more than just the fact that it isn't illegal. You are also wrong about the fact that it is the government's job to enforce civil matters. Although there are a few laws making certain types of copying illegal, with the exception of the DMCA, NONE OF USE SLASHDOT USERS FALL UNDER THOSE LAWS. All of the laws before the DMCA make it CRIMINAL to illegally MAKE MONEY off of copyrighted works.
The truth of the matter is that this is mostly a civil matter that the **AA has pushed into being a criminal matter with the DMCA. It is COMPLETELY innappropiate for there to be a government entity to enfore IP. It would be the equivilant of creating a police force to enforce patent or trademark enfringment or slander against an individual. Although you did not say anything about creating IP police whenever you make civil matters criminal you have to have police force enforcing. I don't think our currently police force has the qualifications for determining if I am violating IP so there would need to be special police force for enforcement.
Not only is what you are claiming illegal, legal, but they are trying to pass laws that make what is legal illegal which would result in the creation of a special police force enforcing what amounts to claims on mental thought. This completely against both the traditional and modern view of how this country should be run.
How about use decent software to develop J2EE applications (granted this is enterprise level applications).
The good DESIGN software right now requires at least a 500Mhz(I think) and at LEAST 512 MB RAM. They recommend MORE.
Now, don't get me wrong. This is pretty good UML/Java-generating/Document-generating/multi-leve l design software. But it shows that good software is quickly needing good hardware.
And yes. That software DOES make a big difference in design (speed and quality).
I senserily(sp) disagree with you posting this comment on this question. This isn't about the University wanted to (arrrrgggg) pirate software. It's about an orginization having legal permission to waltz in and start jacking with your property.
I assume your University has a (or group of) lawyer(s). I would seriously attempt to convince the powers at the University that it is their best interested to require the BSA to get legal ruling (supena for all your computers is what I think would be required, a warrent is for criminal activity and I don't think the local judge would approve) stating that the University had to conform to the BSA's request.
If the BSA DOESN'T have a legal right to examine your property then they will probably back off because it would put their future strong arm tactics in jeopordy.
"the more people are going to look at alternatives."
Exactly! And that is exactly what the RIAA and MPAA are going after are the alternatives. They are trying to shut those down.
It's a blatent attempt to shutdown the competition. WE see that but unfortunately they are painting it to our government reps not as trying to shutdown the competition but trying to stop evil people.
They shouldn't. The FSF have lobbyiest. When your a little guy like us lobbyist are the only way to get your views heard by Senators.
Think about it. Big corporations have access to Sentors because of how big they are. You and me? Well, we don't have (for the most part) big corporations that represent our interests. So, we donate and become members of orginizations (FSF, EFF, NRA -- yeh, most of you problably won't like that last one) that DO have the money to influence to lobby for our position in government.
Getting rid of the lobbyist is the FASTEST way to guarentee(sp) that your view will NOT be heard by our Congressmen. Without lobbyiest ONLY the rich and powerful (corporations) will have access to influence (corporations don't need lobbyist to get access to congressmen).
If you want your views heard, after you write/call your congressmen join non-profit orginizations that repressent your views. THAT is the best way to get Congress to hear your voice.
Wow, you must have graduated from a really good college with a good GPA to call a graduate of Yale a "dim-witted cowbow" (your money can get you in the doors but it can't get you the grades, trust me, the profs are too arrogant. Oh, yea, he graduated BEFORE Bush Sr. was director of the CIA too, so Bush Jr. was still a nobody).
Despite your claim, we have NOT bombed most of the nations that hate us. Let's see. The biggest bomb ever detonated on a population is history was on Japan by the US. Their our friends. We bombed the shit out of Germany; allies. So, by that reasoning the small pot shots we have taken aren't why they hate us. Us not BOMBING THEM MORE is why they hate us.
Do I really think we need to bomb these guys more. No. DON'T BE A DOLT AND THINK I WANT TO BOMB THEM MORE!!!
Wake up and smell the propaganda. The U.S. is the most successful nation in the UNIVERSE. And a free, capitolistic society is what made it that way. The oppressed societies are poor. And when the people ask the ones in charge "Why can't I feed my family" do you REALLY think they tell them "because I want to oppress this country for my friends and I personal gain"? NO. They blame it on the country that their people see has success (and money and FOOD).
They (the governments in charge) are upset by the fact that the Freedom of the U.S. is spoiling their little power trip by showing their people that it doesn't have to be that way. You see they have their money and power from the suppresiono of their people. If they were to allow freedom of their people then they would loose their money and power. So, they tell their people how EVIL the United States is. How the United States steels money from their mouths. How the United States gets its money and power from them and that is why they can't feed their family.
Get a clue. This is propaganda pure and simple. Someone doesn't get rich by steeling from the poor. They are NOT por because we are rich. They are poor from their governments suppressive nature.
It's become fashionable to dislike the U.S. here in the U.S. It's the in vogue thing to do. So, our own media bashes the system that allows it the freedom to do so. Do you even REALIZE that this is NOT ALLOWED in many other countries? The result is that our own free media spreads the propaganda being spewed forth from these repressive regimes. And people like YOU (yea, the one that mentioned the bombs) pick up on it.
I got one thing to say about people who live in the U.S. and bash it: GET OUT!!!!! Then you will see how good the U.S. really is.
That's the criminal system. MS or any other U.S. citizen can file a civil suit with NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER on ANYONE claiming ANYTHING. And the person sued has to prove that they have nothing to do with the allegations. Proof means needing a lawyer. Needing a lawyer means needing money. If you don't have the money? To bad. You better find a way to settle out of court. And even if your lawyer gets you out you have to pay his fees.
The civil system in this country needs to be revamped.
P.S. Yes there are some states that have laws to discourage this but . . . file the suit in a different state.
I would like to take issue with the following: "Gays are evil. Jews are evil. Americans are evil"
MOST reasonable Christian denominations recognize that it is the sin that is evil and not the person. The belief is that the person should be loved no matter the sin (Christian attitudes have not relfected this lately hence the misunderstanding, but hey, don't hate them hate their hypocracy). This is connected to the whole forgiveness thing.
But yes, the line between religion and cult is very fine.
I think both you and the article are missing the point. I have been a big Star Wars fan for years.
But I think even die hard fans have realized for more than 10 years now that story telling is not what George is good at. Good grief, any die hard fan knows that his training is in editing and that HOW he makes films is a lot more revolutionary than the stories.
Also, the article points out that his films epic links are tenative. Yes. But there are some there. The article tries to point out that these are so tentative that they can be used with other films. DUH. Most ALL stories these days are NOT NEW. Just like music is its all been done already. It's just how you can twist it, make a statement with it or apply it to todays world. Gripe at Lucas about rehashing old storys? I guess Disney gets off scott free.
The point isn't that the Star Wars fans won't believe what the article says. The point is that Star Wars fans already know what the article says. It's not anything new to them. What WE don't get is why the Salon article bitches about it so much. The whole time I am thinking, "So".
I guess the point is that Hollywood or Lucas or both are overinflating Georges story telling ability. I guess but like I said; the fans know that is "deal" isn't story telling, it's HOW he makes movies. You cannot argue that he is not a Genius with that. His company ILM IS successful on other films even if his non-Star Wars stories aren't.
So, you don't believe in charitable causes. You must really hate Habitat for Humanity. I mean, my God, they build people houses FOR FREE. This is sooooo wrong.
I.E. Open Source is no more incompatable to capitalism than charitable causes.
"After you buy this car, I will give you the key. When you first open the door their will be a face down piece of paper describing the only legal ways you can use this car. You must legally abide by this paper after you purchase the car."
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America is becoming very close to the Electronic equivilant of the English colonies before we declared our independence.
It's worse than that. If Linus doesn't build into the new Kernel copy protection then he and all his cohorts go to jail too. This would KILL Open Source.
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Oh. So, EVERY Jedi has to be the best? I don't think you can relate to Saliari (sp) from the movie Mozart as much as I can.
Obi-Wan is the champion of mediocre(sp yes, I suck at it) Jedi.
I like him the best.
Thank you for your insight. It is well thought out and expressed. However . . .
I am very much more pessimistic than you. You state that you don't think they will win in the end. I fear that they will.
If we take predictions in Sci-Fi literature from over ten years ago they point to the peoples biggest oppressor being not the government but large corporations who have been given practical control of the peoples by the government. The trends of these literatures have been followed these predictions more than they have deviated.
Saying that they will win in the end makes me think of England just before the settlers came to America. Surely at the time the people said "How can the government dictate what my religious beliefs are or how I choose to worship." But they did. In the same way I can imagine the settlers of the new world saying "How can every piece of paper that I used be taxed and taxed again?" But it was. In the same way we are saying "How can thought stuff, ideas and numbers be so controlled by the government?"
One of the keys of escaping the previous problems was "The New World". The protestants left to go to the new world. The settlers rebeled and formed their own government (and I would not underestimate the added advantage of the land being so far away from mother England).
But where are we to go now? Under they sea? In space? In the virtual world of computers and networks? None of these are currently viable options. Sense, we have no way of escape, and open rebellion appears dubious at best, I can EASILY see how the government can empower the corporations to stop our exchange of information. Just as mother England put unreasonable taxes and countries in europe dictated how and what religion everyone must follow.
I hope with you but fear the worst.
". . . had concerns about the possiblity of even the archiving of shows for the long term, thus potentially taking away from later profits off rebroadcasting or selling/renting of copies of the program."
This shows just how out of touch with reality these people (the broadcasters) are. Last night I watched Return of the Jedi on T.V. GOOD GOD I OWN MULTIPLE TAPES OF IT!!! I STILL watched it on T.V.
They could be making SOOOOO much more money if they utilized human nature more (much like software companies have and look at how much more successful they are).
This commment should not be underrated. I have personally become more aware of this affect on me in the last couple of years.
Example 1: I have noticed that after seeing a commercial for a fast food product a few times I start to crave the product. The first few times I see it I don't think anything of it. But after seeing it a while I think to myself "Hm, I think I'll try that".
Example 2: I have been in a store buying a product I have never really bought before (or don't buy on a regular basis). After looking at the choices I have become aware that I desire the choice that I am familiar with. How do I become familiar with one product over another without ever really using the product? I realize that I have seen it on T.V. I thought process is "well, the have the money to advertise so I hope the have to money to develop a good product".
It is only after trying different products that I might figure out that a brand not advertised is better. And if I don't really have the regular need of the product to try it guess who won that "customer battle" for me. . . the advertiser.
It's funny. I remember when T.V. shows weren't allowed to show brand names. I guess they changed that because I noticed (I think Seinfield was the first time I noticed) that brands were "back". I thought they had product placement in T.V. way back and then removed it?
You guys asking about people wanting to simulate non-combat stuff:
A VERY popular game right now is one where you simulate, you know, what your doing now. . . living. . .
The Sims.
Is it illegal for me to wave a magnet in just the right way near my computer as to flip the bit in the font to make it embed?
If I practice and get good, is it illegal for me to use the magnet technique to decrypt DVDs?
I must start practicing my magnet-palm technique...
I would like to point out to you how you CAN get the government officials to listen to you. I have pointed this out before and I will continue until the Slashdot crowd gets it.
YOU, yes, YOU have lobbiest who are voicing your opinions to the government RIGHT NOW. These lobbiests have (near) the same power as the corporate lobbyiest and in fact some of them ARE corporate lobbiest. And that lobbyist is contributing RIGHT NOW, just like the RIAA's lobbyist, to the congressmen for access.
Where is that lobbyist getting his money? From you. Whenever you donate to the EFF, Sierra Club, NRA, Greenpeace, MADD, Mothers against Guns or any other orginization it uses that money for lobbying efforts to further it's agenda (if it doesn't it's not a good orginization and you should not contribute to them). Lobbyists are your loud voice to our officials.
You stated that the only reason we might win this one is because other large corporations are against it. How are those large corporations getting access? Their lobbyiest. In this case their lobbyist are our voice to our government.
I get SICK of hearing that "no-one" is representing our view to our officials or that "we don't have the money that the RIAA has so we won't be listened too". This is absolutely false.
If our view isn't being listened to then GIVE MORE MONEY to orginizations that lobby for your views (the EFF would be a good one in this case). An alternative to giving more money would be to get others to join and give what they can to the orginization if they agree with you. And listen here, I am really not talking about you starving college kids who are trying to get through college. I am talking about all you folks living high on the hog from your profits of the Dot Com era (that is a little joke). Seriously, those of you professionals who own nice houses SHOULD be contributing if you REALLY believe in these issues.
WE DO HAVE A VOICE!!!
(Except for 60 days before an election when it is illegal for us to purchase T.V. ad time to state our views . . . but that is different problem).
You are WRONG my friend.
The last time I checked there were no LAWS stating that I couldn't dupe my CD to tape so I can listen to it in my car. And the second method of "LAW" in our nation, CASE PRECENDENCE, actually states or more properly JUDGES it to be LEGAL to do so.
A natural extension to this would be that I would be allowed to rip my CD to listen to it on my portable MP3 player because it doesn't skip like a CD player on my motorcycle. It is also LEGAL for me to loan my CD to a friend or even SELL IT to him if I don't want it anymore.
Don't give us your rightous attitude of "what your doing is still illegal" when IT IS NOT!!!! And in fact the very question to "Ask Slashdot" was "How can we make your fair use illegal without pissing you off."
You are wrong about more than just the fact that it isn't illegal. You are also wrong about the fact that it is the government's job to enforce civil matters. Although there are a few laws making certain types of copying illegal, with the exception of the DMCA, NONE OF USE SLASHDOT USERS FALL UNDER THOSE LAWS. All of the laws before the DMCA make it CRIMINAL to illegally MAKE MONEY off of copyrighted works.
The truth of the matter is that this is mostly a civil matter that the **AA has pushed into being a criminal matter with the DMCA. It is COMPLETELY innappropiate for there to be a government entity to enfore IP. It would be the equivilant of creating a police force to enforce patent or trademark enfringment or slander against an individual. Although you did not say anything about creating IP police whenever you make civil matters criminal you have to have police force enforcing. I don't think our currently police force has the qualifications for determining if I am violating IP so there would need to be special police force for enforcement.
Not only is what you are claiming illegal, legal, but they are trying to pass laws that make what is legal illegal which would result in the creation of a special police force enforcing what amounts to claims on mental thought. This completely against both the traditional and modern view of how this country should be run.
How about use decent software to develop J2EE applications (granted this is enterprise level applications).
e l design software. But it shows that good software is quickly needing good hardware.
The good DESIGN software right now requires at least a 500Mhz(I think) and at LEAST 512 MB RAM. They recommend MORE.
Now, don't get me wrong. This is pretty good UML/Java-generating/Document-generating/multi-lev
And yes. That software DOES make a big difference in design (speed and quality).
I'm sorry but FSCK THAT!!!
If I word for an orginization (University, corporation) I am NOT going to allow some orginization to TOUCH my PERSONAL computer!!!
I don't copy software from my work but it is NONE OF THE BSA'S BUSINESS what I have on my computer (I don't pirate software either).
I think the BSA's demand to see the faculties computers is OUTRAGOUS!!!
I senserily(sp) disagree with you posting this comment on this question. This isn't about the University wanted to (arrrrgggg) pirate software. It's about an orginization having legal permission to waltz in and start jacking with your property.
I assume your University has a (or group of) lawyer(s). I would seriously attempt to convince the powers at the University that it is their best interested to require the BSA to get legal ruling (supena for all your computers is what I think would be required, a warrent is for criminal activity and I don't think the local judge would approve) stating that the University had to conform to the BSA's request.
If the BSA DOESN'T have a legal right to examine your property then they will probably back off because it would put their future strong arm tactics in jeopordy.
"the more people are going to look at alternatives."
Exactly! And that is exactly what the RIAA and MPAA are going after are the alternatives. They are trying to shut those down.
It's a blatent attempt to shutdown the competition. WE see that but unfortunately they are painting it to our government reps not as trying to shutdown the competition but trying to stop evil people.
This is exactly what we should all be afraid of.
If things keep moving in the direction they are we are looking at the new Witch Hunt of the century.
It is very frightening.
Most lobbyist sicken you?
They shouldn't. The FSF have lobbyiest. When your a little guy like us lobbyist are the only way to get your views heard by Senators.
Think about it. Big corporations have access to Sentors because of how big they are. You and me? Well, we don't have (for the most part) big corporations that represent our interests. So, we donate and become members of orginizations (FSF, EFF, NRA -- yeh, most of you problably won't like that last one) that DO have the money to influence to lobby for our position in government.
Getting rid of the lobbyist is the FASTEST way to guarentee(sp) that your view will NOT be heard by our Congressmen. Without lobbyiest ONLY the rich and powerful (corporations) will have access to influence (corporations don't need lobbyist to get access to congressmen).
If you want your views heard, after you write/call your congressmen join non-profit orginizations that repressent your views. THAT is the best way to get Congress to hear your voice.
Not enough of us are joining FSF or EFF.
"Bottom line is don't believe all you read"
. . . just what *I* tell you to read.
" there is a dim-witted cowboy in the Whitehouse"
Wow, you must have graduated from a really good college with a good GPA to call a graduate of Yale a "dim-witted cowbow" (your money can get you in the doors but it can't get you the grades, trust me, the profs are too arrogant. Oh, yea, he graduated BEFORE Bush Sr. was director of the CIA too, so Bush Jr. was still a nobody).
So, where did you graduate again?
FUCK YEA THAT IS WHY THEY HATE US!!!
Despite your claim, we have NOT bombed most of the nations that hate us. Let's see. The biggest bomb ever detonated on a population is history was on Japan by the US. Their our friends. We bombed the shit out of Germany; allies. So, by that reasoning the small pot shots we have taken aren't why they hate us. Us not BOMBING THEM MORE is why they hate us.
Do I really think we need to bomb these guys more. No. DON'T BE A DOLT AND THINK I WANT TO BOMB THEM MORE!!!
Wake up and smell the propaganda. The U.S. is the most successful nation in the UNIVERSE. And a free, capitolistic society is what made it that way. The oppressed societies are poor. And when the people ask the ones in charge "Why can't I feed my family" do you REALLY think they tell them "because I want to oppress this country for my friends and I personal gain"? NO. They blame it on the country that their people see has success (and money and FOOD).
They (the governments in charge) are upset by the fact that the Freedom of the U.S. is spoiling their little power trip by showing their people that it doesn't have to be that way. You see they have their money and power from the suppresiono of their people. If they were to allow freedom of their people then they would loose their money and power. So, they tell their people how EVIL the United States is. How the United States steels money from their mouths. How the United States gets its money and power from them and that is why they can't feed their family.
Get a clue. This is propaganda pure and simple. Someone doesn't get rich by steeling from the poor. They are NOT por because we are rich. They are poor from their governments suppressive nature.
It's become fashionable to dislike the U.S. here in the U.S. It's the in vogue thing to do. So, our own media bashes the system that allows it the freedom to do so. Do you even REALIZE that this is NOT ALLOWED in many other countries? The result is that our own free media spreads the propaganda being spewed forth from these repressive regimes. And people like YOU (yea, the one that mentioned the bombs) pick up on it.
I got one thing to say about people who live in the U.S. and bash it: GET OUT!!!!! Then you will see how good the U.S. really is.
Seriously,
That's the criminal system. MS or any other U.S. citizen can file a civil suit with NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER on ANYONE claiming ANYTHING. And the person sued has to prove that they have nothing to do with the allegations. Proof means needing a lawyer. Needing a lawyer means needing money. If you don't have the money? To bad. You better find a way to settle out of court. And even if your lawyer gets you out you have to pay his fees.
The civil system in this country needs to be revamped.
P.S. Yes there are some states that have laws to discourage this but . . . file the suit in a different state.
I would like to take issue with the following:
"Gays are evil. Jews are evil. Americans are evil"
MOST reasonable Christian denominations recognize that it is the sin that is evil and not the person. The belief is that the person should be loved no matter the sin (Christian attitudes have not relfected this lately hence the misunderstanding, but hey, don't hate them hate their hypocracy). This is connected to the whole forgiveness thing.
But yes, the line between religion and cult is very fine.
Honestly,
I think both you and the article are missing the point. I have been a big Star Wars fan for years.
But I think even die hard fans have realized for more than 10 years now that story telling is not what George is good at. Good grief, any die hard fan knows that his training is in editing and that HOW he makes films is a lot more revolutionary than the stories.
Also, the article points out that his films epic links are tenative. Yes. But there are some there. The article tries to point out that these are so tentative that they can be used with other films. DUH. Most ALL stories these days are NOT NEW. Just like music is its all been done already. It's just how you can twist it, make a statement with it or apply it to todays world. Gripe at Lucas about rehashing old storys? I guess Disney gets off scott free.
The point isn't that the Star Wars fans won't believe what the article says. The point is that Star Wars fans already know what the article says. It's not anything new to them. What WE don't get is why the Salon article bitches about it so much. The whole time I am thinking, "So".
I guess the point is that Hollywood or Lucas or both are overinflating Georges story telling ability. I guess but like I said; the fans know that is "deal" isn't story telling, it's HOW he makes movies. You cannot argue that he is not a Genius with that. His company ILM IS successful on other films even if his non-Star Wars stories aren't.
So, you don't believe in charitable causes. You must really hate Habitat for Humanity. I mean, my God, they build people houses FOR FREE. This is sooooo wrong.
I.E. Open Source is no more incompatable to capitalism than charitable causes.
TOA?
"After you buy this car, I will give you the key. When you first open the door their will be a face down piece of paper describing the only legal ways you can use this car. You must legally abide by this paper after you purchase the car."
America is becoming very close to the Electronic equivilant of the English colonies before we declared our independence.
Wake up,
It's worse than that. If Linus doesn't build into the new Kernel copy protection then he and all his cohorts go to jail too. This would KILL Open Source.
So how is shutting down bnetd going to keep said people from getting the gold version of Warcraft 3 illegaly?