Security goals differ from project to project - and the these people are looking to protect their content for the life of their copyrights (substantial amount of time) and the obscurity approach is not realistic in this regard.
Furthermore, in a capitalist environment, making money is always going to be important and the number of hands out isnt going to get smaller so changing us is a bit unrealistic, then again we are following the rules - they are rewriting them with lobbyists, lawyers and practices, so i still feel the burden is on them.
PS - Asking rhetorical questions without any bearing on the subject matter is redundant.
But in a world still well within the grasp of p2p networks and the internet in general, a few skilled individuals is all you need, then the networks do the rest. One skilled persons copy is no longer inconsequential.
Security through obscurity just doesnt work - at least not in the long term. But the media houses answer only to their stockholders(ironically us) and they demand profits and they always want more. So chalk this one up with the rest of the similar attempts until they fix the real problem - their business model.
Pocket PC based devices, IMHO, currently have the best development toolchain in the.NET sdk and Visual Studio. Being able to compile libraries for you PC and running the same code on your PDA without modification is hard to deny. Developers and their commitment to creating software give platforms vitality and is a key to success, Linux being a recent example. People like choices, developers provide those choices. For this reason i expect Palm's days are numbered, at least running PalmOS.
Steinbeck, Harper Lee, Huxley? I cant wait to see the flavorless, culturally anemic youth that will result from the parenting and institutionalization that these people put forward. And they actually think they are saving their children from something; when in actuality they are harming them ten times more by not allowing them to live.
This article certainly will get better acceptance from the average home computer user than a speech on free software or technical merits. This guy sounds like my parents describing their computer problems. Although experience tells me that the problems he describes arent normal (no you should not just accept them Mr. Dvorak), I have had them all so I expect alot of home users will identify with these issues. This is some of the worst kind of press your software product can get; national platform, accepted source of news, laymans terms.
The marketplace for these types of jobs has certainly changed. IMHO we are experiencing a few things - outsourcing of jobs is becoming a normal option for cutting costs, the higher education institutions have flooded the market with "IT pros" who have questionable grasp on the material going into the workplace. Combine this with other nations starting to pick up the tech gauntlet and compete - your going to get cyclic response by the job market. To another end, take a look at every IT house or office you know of, doesnt it seem that at least 15% of them dont belong in IT anyhow? Just my opinion.
Certainly true, but i look at this most as a conditioned reaction rather than something people decided they need to do. Perhaps im old fashioned but i would call it a weakness if i was manipulated into buying a device that was overkill for my application for the purpose of being cool or because i lacked control in some other sense. But this has been fostered in our society for years now and congratulations to apple for reaping the rewards.
Happily pay 250$ for a music player..that might be an overstatement.
Sen. Hatch is only protecting himself from these damn pirates, since it is practically assured that his music is on the top of pirates most wanted music lists around the globe. Or maybe hes a just the fascist pinhead he asserts himself to be.
Well when you call something affordable in this sense your talking about it being affordable to the average person, not just me. 250$ for basically just a music player with high capacity. You can carry 3 or 4 albums or more on a 60$ player (i.e. Creative MuVo).
Does the average person need to carry 4 gigs of music around with them and if so is it worth 250$? Probably not even if it is cool.
Copyright, in my estimation has never been about the individual. The government doesnt write laws for individuals, it writes them for society at large. These laws were originally intended to make sure that authors kept creating content, not to make them rich. They were protecting society both from a lack of innovation and from losing their ability to build off of their cultural past. An idea the US govenment has obviously overlooked or given up upon. Maybe they dont want us to remember the past, like a Brave New World, consume, consume, consume...
This isnt about protecting an authors ability to indefinitely maintain ownership, its about assuring authors that if they write something new for some period of time they will be protected in the name of promoting progress for the community. The U.K. has it right, 50 years is fair and this is not about protecting individuals.
My personal opinion, but i think its kind of ugly. But then again its really the technology (large disk capacity) that sells these things anyways, right? So when do they become affordable (about 50% of their current base price)?
Now if Linux really had some code in it that was unknowingly copied in by someone, is this how you would want it and its creators treated, because of the acts of one morally deprived individual?? No, most would say it wasnt their fault.
Id have to side with Microsoft on this one, They obviously knew he had Altavista knowldege but i wouldnt hold their feet to the fire because i dont think they knew the extent of what this mans "experience" was.
Microsoft is in a real tough spot with keeping their secrets secret while ensuring that Altavista is treated fairly. People who steal software source code suck.
Not really, in any relationship - parent to child, boyfriend to girlfriend, husband to wife, employer to employee - there are always some lines that you dont cross in order to maintain the relationship. This shows what happens when you cross those lines - you arent required not to cross them, but when you need things from other people you should really avoid it. Call it common sense or even common decency.
The real issue isnt honesty here anyhow, its responsibility, which this man obviously thought he wasnt required to deal with.
The fact of the matter is more likely that most people wouldnt want such a loose cannon working for their respectable firm. If you were an aerospace firm would you want the guy who just pissed the government off working for you, ensuring that you lose contracts etc.? Not likely. Perhaps he should of thought twice before he did something that would obviously piss off the powers that be (aka biting the hand that fed him), regardless of how right or wrong it may be (in the utopian fantasia where it doesnt matter if everyone can build a cruise missle).
Notice at the end of the article he basically says that regardless of anything good about Firefox its really a better choice since it has such a small market share - which is what makes it secure. Basically he seems to be saying that Firefox is security through obscurity rather than good design practices which MS didnt completely adhere to. Nice political dodge for the author.
ive seen it a million times over, talent doesnt necessarily dictate success. more so desire decides who wins and who loses. you can have all the intelligence and talent in the world but without the desire to really apply it, its worthless. do yourself a favor and find out what your really want and love and pursue that - therein lie your best chances. good luck.
This man has all but admitted he has no information saying Linus didn't write Linux, he assumes he didn't cause it doesn't seem likely. Would anyone who really read this take that to heart? People already have their minds made up and this document wont sway many people either way. Sometimes i think only/.'ers make anything of this mans comments at all. Funny how that works huh?
If you havent seen misinformation in/. posts you havent been reading/. very long. Everybody has an angle - free speech isnt selective regardless of content.
Perhaps on the commercial end we will see backlash from the programming community. In a more general sense the programs and their functions are finite and always will be and someone will probably pay for a long time to come to get custom software or a program that just does it better.
Ive done a number of Fedora installations now and some of them were dual boot, i had linux installed on these partitions already, therefore in most cases i was saved from the bug.
But honestly what planet are all these people from? Have they used the other distros? Fedora has obviously had some serious development work above and beyond what you find not only in vanilla sources but in most of the other distros as well. To say that this booting problem and not liking the spatial design of the new nautilus is enough to make Fedora core 2 a dud is just plain silly. The Gnome 2.6 will be in most distros soon enough and the booting bug is well... a bug. Every operating system including Windows and other linux distributions have the ability to trash your machine in certain hardware/installation circumstances or if you dont know what your doing.
The Fedora folks would have done well to test dual booting a little better before releasing but on the same token so called reviewers should plan to install on more than one machine and configuration before they slap a loser tag on a release.
Ive installed core 2 on fours PC's - all dual boot situations, some previously with linux some not. Machines ranging from athlon 64 based systems to my p4 2.8 with hyperthreading and including win2k, winxp home and pro. If it is a windows issue its specific to certain releases. It would be more sensical to think it was a partition table setup problem.
The refuting part was more about the back and forth between the two of them and how the interview was conducted, not whether or not Linus wrote an OS. Was Brown really fishing the way he was made out to be in this article? I was just interested to see his version of this particular exchange if he mentions it at all.
Its hard to refute Andy Tanenbaums claims for a number of reasons; his background, his education - basically his history. But to another end, you cant even view Browns document to contrast - they have it password protected.
Putting a story at the top of the front page of your website but making it password protected while no other storys on your frontpage are similarly protected smacks of gun for hire/skewed view/anything for money. Appears to me they want you to read the headline but not read the text, sound familiar?
These adti individuals dont appear to be concerned with their own credibility and i hope whatever they are being paid is worth it.
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I dont know that its just that their repeating, look at the time line on the bottom of the article. Seems a little thin to me.
Security goals differ from project to project - and the these people are looking to protect their content for the life of their copyrights (substantial amount of time) and the obscurity approach is not realistic in this regard.
Furthermore, in a capitalist environment, making money is always going to be important and the number of hands out isnt going to get smaller so changing us is a bit unrealistic, then again we are following the rules - they are rewriting them with lobbyists, lawyers and practices, so i still feel the burden is on them.
PS - Asking rhetorical questions without any bearing on the subject matter is redundant.
But in a world still well within the grasp of p2p networks and the internet in general, a few skilled individuals is all you need, then the networks do the rest. One skilled persons copy is no longer inconsequential.
Security through obscurity just doesnt work - at least not in the long term. But the media houses answer only to their stockholders(ironically us) and they demand profits and they always want more. So chalk this one up with the rest of the similar attempts until they fix the real problem - their business model.
Pocket PC based devices, IMHO, currently have the best development toolchain in the .NET sdk and Visual Studio. Being able to compile libraries for you PC and running the same code on your PDA without modification is hard to deny. Developers and their commitment to creating software give platforms vitality and is a key to success, Linux being a recent example. People like choices, developers provide those choices. For this reason i expect Palm's days are numbered, at least running PalmOS.
Steinbeck, Harper Lee, Huxley? I cant wait to see the flavorless, culturally anemic youth that will result from the parenting and institutionalization that these people put forward. And they actually think they are saving their children from something; when in actuality they are harming them ten times more by not allowing them to live.
This article certainly will get better acceptance from the average home computer user than a speech on free software or technical merits. This guy sounds like my parents describing their computer problems. Although experience tells me that the problems he describes arent normal (no you should not just accept them Mr. Dvorak), I have had them all so I expect alot of home users will identify with these issues. This is some of the worst kind of press your software product can get; national platform, accepted source of news, laymans terms.
The marketplace for these types of jobs has certainly changed. IMHO we are experiencing a few things - outsourcing of jobs is becoming a normal option for cutting costs, the higher education institutions have flooded the market with "IT pros" who have questionable grasp on the material going into the workplace. Combine this with other nations starting to pick up the tech gauntlet and compete - your going to get cyclic response by the job market. To another end, take a look at every IT house or office you know of, doesnt it seem that at least 15% of them dont belong in IT anyhow? Just my opinion.
Certainly true, but i look at this most as a conditioned reaction rather than something people decided they need to do. Perhaps im old fashioned but i would call it a weakness if i was manipulated into buying a device that was overkill for my application for the purpose of being cool or because i lacked control in some other sense. But this has been fostered in our society for years now and congratulations to apple for reaping the rewards.
Happily pay 250$ for a music player..that might be an overstatement.
Sen. Hatch is only protecting himself from these damn pirates, since it is practically assured that his music is on the top of pirates most wanted music lists around the globe. Or maybe hes a just the fascist pinhead he asserts himself to be.
Well when you call something affordable in this sense your talking about it being affordable to the average person, not just me. 250$ for basically just a music player with high capacity. You can carry 3 or 4 albums or more on a 60$ player (i.e. Creative MuVo).
Does the average person need to carry 4 gigs of music around with them and if so is it worth 250$? Probably not even if it is cool.
Copyright, in my estimation has never been about the individual. The government doesnt write laws for individuals, it writes them for society at large. These laws were originally intended to make sure that authors kept creating content, not to make them rich. They were protecting society both from a lack of innovation and from losing their ability to build off of their cultural past. An idea the US govenment has obviously overlooked or given up upon. Maybe they dont want us to remember the past, like a Brave New World, consume, consume, consume...
This isnt about protecting an authors ability to indefinitely maintain ownership, its about assuring authors that if they write something new for some period of time they will be protected in the name of promoting progress for the community. The U.K. has it right, 50 years is fair and this is not about protecting individuals.
My personal opinion, but i think its kind of ugly. But then again its really the technology (large disk capacity) that sells these things anyways, right? So when do they become affordable (about 50% of their current base price)?
Then lets hang them for something they actually stole, not something some moron stole without their knowledge.
Now if Linux really had some code in it that was unknowingly copied in by someone, is this how you would want it and its creators treated, because of the acts of one morally deprived individual?? No, most would say it wasnt their fault.
Id have to side with Microsoft on this one, They obviously knew he had Altavista knowldege but i wouldnt hold their feet to the fire because i dont think they knew the extent of what this mans "experience" was.
Microsoft is in a real tough spot with keeping their secrets secret while ensuring that Altavista is treated fairly. People who steal software source code suck.
Not really, in any relationship - parent to child, boyfriend to girlfriend, husband to wife, employer to employee - there are always some lines that you dont cross in order to maintain the relationship. This shows what happens when you cross those lines - you arent required not to cross them, but when you need things from other people you should really avoid it. Call it common sense or even common decency.
The real issue isnt honesty here anyhow, its responsibility, which this man obviously thought he wasnt required to deal with.
The fact of the matter is more likely that most people wouldnt want such a loose cannon working for their respectable firm. If you were an aerospace firm would you want the guy who just pissed the government off working for you, ensuring that you lose contracts etc.? Not likely. Perhaps he should of thought twice before he did something that would obviously piss off the powers that be (aka biting the hand that fed him), regardless of how right or wrong it may be (in the utopian fantasia where it doesnt matter if everyone can build a cruise missle).
Notice at the end of the article he basically says that regardless of anything good about Firefox its really a better choice since it has such a small market share - which is what makes it secure. Basically he seems to be saying that Firefox is security through obscurity rather than good design practices which MS didnt completely adhere to. Nice political dodge for the author.
ive seen it a million times over, talent doesnt necessarily dictate success. more so desire decides who wins and who loses. you can have all the intelligence and talent in the world but without the desire to really apply it, its worthless. do yourself a favor and find out what your really want and love and pursue that - therein lie your best chances. good luck.
This man has all but admitted he has no information saying Linus didn't write Linux, he assumes he didn't cause it doesn't seem likely. Would anyone who really read this take that to heart? People already have their minds made up and this document wont sway many people either way. Sometimes i think only /.'ers make anything of this mans comments at all. Funny how that works huh?
If you havent seen misinformation in /. posts you havent been reading /. very long. Everybody has an angle - free speech isnt selective regardless of content.
Perhaps on the commercial end we will see backlash from the programming community. In a more general sense the programs and their functions are finite and always will be and someone will probably pay for a long time to come to get custom software or a program that just does it better.
Ive done a number of Fedora installations now and some of them were dual boot, i had linux installed on these partitions already, therefore in most cases i was saved from the bug.
But honestly what planet are all these people from? Have they used the other distros? Fedora has obviously had some serious development work above and beyond what you find not only in vanilla sources but in most of the other distros as well. To say that this booting problem and not liking the spatial design of the new nautilus is enough to make Fedora core 2 a dud is just plain silly. The Gnome 2.6 will be in most distros soon enough and the booting bug is well... a bug. Every operating system including Windows and other linux distributions have the ability to trash your machine in certain hardware/installation circumstances or if you dont know what your doing.
The Fedora folks would have done well to test dual booting a little better before releasing but on the same token so called reviewers should plan to install on more than one machine and configuration before they slap a loser tag on a release.
Ive installed core 2 on fours PC's - all dual boot situations, some previously with linux some not. Machines ranging from athlon 64 based systems to my p4 2.8 with hyperthreading and including win2k, winxp home and pro. If it is a windows issue its specific to certain releases. It would be more sensical to think it was a partition table setup problem.
The refuting part was more about the back and forth between the two of them and how the interview was conducted, not whether or not Linus wrote an OS. Was Brown really fishing the way he was made out to be in this article? I was just interested to see his version of this particular exchange if he mentions it at all.
Its hard to refute Andy Tanenbaums claims for a number of reasons; his background, his education - basically his history. But to another end, you cant even view Browns document to contrast - they have it password protected.
Putting a story at the top of the front page of your website but making it password protected while no other storys on your frontpage are similarly protected smacks of gun for hire/skewed view/anything for money. Appears to me they want you to read the headline but not read the text, sound familiar?
These adti individuals dont appear to be concerned with their own credibility and i hope whatever they are being paid is worth it.