From what i understand the Mac OS track recorder isnt so great, and im sick of Mac users stating that Adobe Photoshop and Microsoft Office makes the base of a system having real applications. If you want to compare functionality available and number of software, yes working software, titles... anytime.
As far as im concerned it isnt that Linux isnt making the right moves towards the desktop, Microsoft just isnt giving up market share. The incumbant, just like in politics, is often difficult to dethrone.
IBM's new office package releases, Suns investments in Java Desktop (gnome based), and the rate at which linux desktops are improving i think reinforces the idea of linux picking up the slack.
I cant find it after much searching but there was an slashdot story on how Microsoft has dropped to 92% market share and how surprisingly linux was taking up the slack and not MacOS - the article i believe blamed this on a late release date for Longhorn.
I can understand why though, without their GUI to set them apart what do they really have to offer? With Linux making some slight headway into the desktop market, and appearing to be ready to take up Microsoft slack if and when it appears, Apple will be hard pressed over the next few years to solidify their stance on such issues as much as possible.
Not to mention that Microsoft will patent everything if Apple doesn't. Are they competeing with software or patent portfolios... or is there a difference these days?
Didnt they change their name? Almost every segment of this demo has LindowsOS in it - either on the desktop, so other facet of the user interface or in the audio.
Maybe in my next presentation ill just change the headers and hope no one notices the content - oh yeah, i already do that.
I personally find it relieving to see truth start to poke its head into play. This is why IBMs game plan is so strong, patience is a virtue, and they are execizing their power in a calm and controlled fashion. The key to a good lie is being able to use the lie and then put it behind you; SCOs lies and fabrications can't stand up to the light of this kind of media attention forever and now we see the curtain coming down. I dont think they realized how difficult continued deception can really be.
This kind of silent blocking of a referrer does nothing but hurt the blocking site. If their point was that they dont want their material reproduced on another site, this block doesn't stop that - actually it encourages more if it since the site in question cant link to the original material. They are well within their rights but it doesnt seem like a very good strategy for a company who depends so much on the internet community.
Obviously no software industry based argument, no?
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'We are firm in our belief that the unchecked spread of open-source software, under the GPL (the General Public License covers Linux and many other open-source programs), is a much more serious threat to our capitalist system than U.S. corporations realize,' McBride said.
Is McBride running a software company or running for public office? Sorry Darl, we've had Clinton and two Bushs over the past 15 years - your out of your league. Now he's suing the government; the man truly has a complex.
Well the punishment really should fit the crime. I mean i cant find my car keys now - throw in 1000 fakes and these guys will be having some good spam equivilent fun.
Just wondering what a major spam offense gets you in punishment once proven guilty...
Perhaps making them dig anything and everything they need out of a pile of useless shit for the rest of their lives is fair... you know 50 tv remotes but only one of them has batteries.. stuff like that all over their houses.
Its funny how you can spin this as Linux attacking SCO when in reality it is the other way around. There is a direct analogy to a playground fight here being that its not right for either side to throw the blows they have... but the way they are different is the virii authors don't represent 'Linux Users/Authors' while the lawyers for SCO certainly do.
I find articles of this kind without critique of SCO tactics to be sensationalism and one sided.
From the article..."Low-skill jobs like coding are moving offshore and what's left in their place are more advanced project management jobs."
Oh yes, we always know that the project manager positions 1, dont follow their workforces - much more efficient to manage from overseas..lol, and 2 they are always the real talent on software RnD projects... what planet is this guy living on..
Is Darls argument that free software people dont believe in the ideas of copyright like the government does, so therefore they dont get protection given to everyone else? The laws in this country only apply to those who agree with them ideologically? If im missing something please let me know because i cant see what his point is.
Books never killed anyone ya know. I say lock em in a closet with a bag of cool ranch doritos and a copy of One Hundred Years of Solitude, alright - ill lighten up - we'll give them the translated version. Damn i hate babying them..
Seriously, ive seen just as much damage done by kids moving out of life into some bizaro internet world. Everything in moderation - you know 2.3 of those 2.5 hours a day is in front of either a first person shooter or an everquest like time sink.. FFS ive seen enough adults erode their brain with that shit, i dont even like thinking about the kids, and ive seen married couples break up over everquest.
Funny how this article runs and at this very moment if you search for anything on MSDN for...(deep breath)... windows programming needs you get overwhelmed with requests to take an online survey.
Forced by my inquisitive nature to participate i found that basically it was a "how can we beat google" survey - not a search engine survey as previously advertised. Not that i think they should never do a google article - but lets not get too obvious (never mind trying to pass it off as news/editorial).
I was wondering the the RIAA has enough lawyers to try all these cases before the copyright runs out on the songs they are sueing for.. 75 people a day, 27375 people a year, that puts my court case at approx. the year 2096 - anyone interested in defending a post-mortum file sharing copyright case?
'People are using Linux for the same reason that others are still using Windows 2000 or Office 97,' Cherry said. 'It's good enough to do they job they're deploying it for.'
You ever notice that comparisons are made between Linux and Windows, the Windows latest release is automatically considered the defacto best choice. I interpret articles like this one as Microsoft propaganda simply due to the fact that the author didn't even attempt to get an Linux-centric point of view.
'What people tend to forget is that there are gatekeepers in the open-source community, too,' he said. 'It's not a free-for-all. On every one of the open-source projects, there are two or three people who are the gatekeepers. And you have to make a pretty good case, accurate and technically astute, to get them to allow changes. That's how it should be.'
I guess he hasn't been to SourceForge lately...
If Microsoft's worried about Linux, it can take some solace in recent numbers from NetCraft, a server monitoring firm in Bath, England.
If Microsoft was taking their cues from Netcraft, they would have scrapped IIS about 5 years ago and would currently be releasing Microsoft Linux Server 5.0.
Too bad the recording studios wont give you the rights to distribute anything. If the consumer could actually manipulate these things as is done in normal situations, meaning the ones in which a psuedo-monopoly hasnt been setup, perhaps there would be hope for this industry to work with their technological counterparts.
Sadly the RIAA decided who sells what and when and how - who gets what - and its our job in their view to just suck it up and take it..
You do have a good point though, in that if we could find some way to bring artists out without the RIAA machine behind them and get them to the target audiences we could free ourselves of these control freaks.
Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. - P. J. O'Rourke
The sad truth about this whole thread is that with all the licensing debates and jokes the real problem is ignored. That being that a government with no real grasp on the technology or its implications, good or bad, is debating on a daily basis legislation to regulate that technology.
I think, as most groups are doing these days, that free software advocates should be lobbying congress and that a grasp on technology should be an issue in any election campaign. The US senate is the big time, not some triple A farm team - lets treat it as such.
Put a rookie lawyer on this one and wait out any lawsuit that these morons file.. They will be chapter 7 and liquidated or bought before it comes to bear anyhow..
If I dont say so myself an organzied effort to buy as many XBoxes as possible without buying games, accesories or services is in order...
Let Microsoft's own politics be their medicine. I think its obvious that it has nothing to do with IP concerns. Sony has been selling their linux kit for awhile - made a business opportunity out of it. The real problem they have is that they are trying to play drug dealer again - get em hooked then squeeze them for all they've got.
I wouldnt worry though, they cant control piracy on their flagship products like office and windows itself, now they have time to chase kids putting chips in gaming consoles? Lol.. not.
While it says it will attack hackers on a case-by-case basis, analysts say the company has so far tolerated the Xbox hacking as an unavoidable nuisance.
Alright, im still having trouble with people selling others hardware products with the intentions of them using it for a specific purpose - and then suddenly its a punishable offense that they are going "attack". What business is it of theirs what I do with my XBox?
If these machines come with these kinds of restrictions I think we're still getting ripped off at 180$ a box. Im on my way to buy an XBox to modify just for spite.:P
Microsoft and Sun will both be big losers in my opinion, for reasons of simple economics. Commoditization of software has been going on for a long time. This is why you see Microsoft constantly screaming from the rooftops about their new features, which 90% of people dont care about. Its the only thing that makes them different from your Linux's and OpenOffice's.
There will come a point when it really just wont functionally matter which os or productivity suite you use. At that point in time, the cheapest alternative always wins. So unless Microsoft plans on paying us to use their software - time and open source software will inevitably have their way with them.
Linux does not do everything that Solaris and its counterparts may do, but the list of things that it does provide that say Solaris doesnt is much longer..
- a default install that isnt a nightmare security wise
- a fully functioning shell environment after installation including paths and vars
- a selection of fairly functional package management tools that go beyond install/uninstall
- a solid and fully functional C/C++ development environment including GUI tools
- a huge free software base, most of which compiles without modification
- a very large selection of commodity hardware support
- a very active development base that provides real results as time goes on (solaris looks a little more stale with each release)
- source code for most of the software it provides
Linux will get the improved SMP support and NFS performance as time goes on, you can see it happening with each release - can you say the same thing about its UNIX counterparts against this list?
Whats the difference between a windows 2000 cd and a well crafted linux boot/rescue disk with the ntfs driver installed.
You can do the same with linux from windows if you have a ext filesystem driver or browser application. None of the major player operating systems are without this flaw.
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From what i understand the Mac OS track recorder isnt so great, and im sick of Mac users stating that Adobe Photoshop and Microsoft Office makes the base of a system having real applications. If you want to compare functionality available and number of software, yes working software, titles... anytime.
As far as im concerned it isnt that Linux isnt making the right moves towards the desktop, Microsoft just isnt giving up market share. The incumbant, just like in politics, is often difficult to dethrone.
IBM's new office package releases, Suns investments in Java Desktop (gnome based), and the rate at which linux desktops are improving i think reinforces the idea of linux picking up the slack.
I cant find it after much searching but there was an slashdot story on how Microsoft has dropped to 92% market share and how surprisingly linux was taking up the slack and not MacOS - the article i believe blamed this on a late release date for Longhorn.
Nope its still bad.
I can understand why though, without their GUI to set them apart what do they really have to offer? With Linux making some slight headway into the desktop market, and appearing to be ready to take up Microsoft slack if and when it appears, Apple will be hard pressed over the next few years to solidify their stance on such issues as much as possible.
Not to mention that Microsoft will patent everything if Apple doesn't. Are they competeing with software or patent portfolios... or is there a difference these days?
Didnt they change their name? Almost every segment of this demo has LindowsOS in it - either on the desktop, so other facet of the user interface or in the audio.
Maybe in my next presentation ill just change the headers and hope no one notices the content - oh yeah, i already do that.
I personally find it relieving to see truth start to poke its head into play. This is why IBMs game plan is so strong, patience is a virtue, and they are execizing their power in a calm and controlled fashion. The key to a good lie is being able to use the lie and then put it behind you; SCOs lies and fabrications can't stand up to the light of this kind of media attention forever and now we see the curtain coming down. I dont think they realized how difficult continued deception can really be.
This kind of silent blocking of a referrer does nothing but hurt the blocking site. If their point was that they dont want their material reproduced on another site, this block doesn't stop that - actually it encourages more if it since the site in question cant link to the original material. They are well within their rights but it doesnt seem like a very good strategy for a company who depends so much on the internet community.
'We are firm in our belief that the unchecked spread of open-source software, under the GPL (the General Public License covers Linux and many other open-source programs), is a much more serious threat to our capitalist system than U.S. corporations realize,' McBride said.
Is McBride running a software company or running for public office? Sorry Darl, we've had Clinton and two Bushs over the past 15 years - your out of your league. Now he's suing the government; the man truly has a complex.
Well the punishment really should fit the crime. I mean i cant find my car keys now - throw in 1000 fakes and these guys will be having some good spam equivilent fun.
Just wondering what a major spam offense gets you in punishment once proven guilty...
Perhaps making them dig anything and everything they need out of a pile of useless shit for the rest of their lives is fair... you know 50 tv remotes but only one of them has batteries.. stuff like that all over their houses.
Its funny how you can spin this as Linux attacking SCO when in reality it is the other way around. There is a direct analogy to a playground fight here being that its not right for either side to throw the blows they have... but the way they are different is the virii authors don't represent 'Linux Users/Authors' while the lawyers for SCO certainly do.
I find articles of this kind without critique of SCO tactics to be sensationalism and one sided.
From the article..."Low-skill jobs like coding are moving offshore and what's left in their place are more advanced project management jobs."
Oh yes, we always know that the project manager positions 1, dont follow their workforces - much more efficient to manage from overseas..lol, and 2 they are always the real talent on software RnD projects... what planet is this guy living on..
Is Darls argument that free software people dont believe in the ideas of copyright like the government does, so therefore they dont get protection given to everyone else? The laws in this country only apply to those who agree with them ideologically? If im missing something please let me know because i cant see what his point is.
This appears so thin it only has one side.
Books never killed anyone ya know. I say lock em in a closet with a bag of cool ranch doritos and a copy of One Hundred Years of Solitude, alright - ill lighten up - we'll give them the translated version. Damn i hate babying them..
Seriously, ive seen just as much damage done by kids moving out of life into some bizaro internet world. Everything in moderation - you know 2.3 of those 2.5 hours a day is in front of either a first person shooter or an everquest like time sink.. FFS ive seen enough adults erode their brain with that shit, i dont even like thinking about the kids, and ive seen married couples break up over everquest.
Funny how this article runs and at this very moment if you search for anything on MSDN for ...(deep breath)... windows programming needs you get overwhelmed with requests to take an online survey.
Forced by my inquisitive nature to participate i found that basically it was a "how can we beat google" survey - not a search engine survey as previously advertised. Not that i think they should never do a google article - but lets not get too obvious (never mind trying to pass it off as news/editorial).
I was wondering the the RIAA has enough lawyers to try all these cases before the copyright runs out on the songs they are sueing for.. 75 people a day, 27375 people a year, that puts my court case at approx. the year 2096 - anyone interested in defending a post-mortum file sharing copyright case?
'People are using Linux for the same reason that others are still using Windows 2000 or Office 97,' Cherry said. 'It's good enough to do they job they're deploying it for.'
You ever notice that comparisons are made between Linux and Windows, the Windows latest release is automatically considered the defacto best choice. I interpret articles like this one as Microsoft propaganda simply due to the fact that the author didn't even attempt to get an Linux-centric point of view.
'What people tend to forget is that there are gatekeepers in the open-source community, too,' he said. 'It's not a free-for-all. On every one of the open-source projects, there are two or three people who are the gatekeepers. And you have to make a pretty good case, accurate and technically astute, to get them to allow changes. That's how it should be.'
I guess he hasn't been to SourceForge lately...
If Microsoft's worried about Linux, it can take some solace in recent numbers from NetCraft, a server monitoring firm in Bath, England.
If Microsoft was taking their cues from Netcraft, they would have scrapped IIS about 5 years ago and would currently be releasing Microsoft Linux Server 5.0.
Too bad the recording studios wont give you the rights to distribute anything. If the consumer could actually manipulate these things as is done in normal situations, meaning the ones in which a psuedo-monopoly hasnt been setup, perhaps there would be hope for this industry to work with their technological counterparts.
Sadly the RIAA decided who sells what and when and how - who gets what - and its our job in their view to just suck it up and take it..
You do have a good point though, in that if we could find some way to bring artists out without the RIAA machine behind them and get them to the target audiences we could free ourselves of these control freaks.
Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. -
P. J. O'Rourke
The sad truth about this whole thread is that with all the licensing debates and jokes the real problem is ignored. That being that a government with no real grasp on the technology or its implications, good or bad, is debating on a daily basis legislation to regulate that technology.
I think, as most groups are doing these days, that free software advocates should be lobbying congress and that a grasp on technology should be an issue in any election campaign. The US senate is the big time, not some triple A farm team - lets treat it as such.
Put a rookie lawyer on this one and wait out any lawsuit that these morons file.. They will be chapter 7 and liquidated or bought before it comes to bear anyhow..
If I dont say so myself an organzied effort to buy as many XBoxes as possible without buying games, accesories or services is in order...
Let Microsoft's own politics be their medicine. I think its obvious that it has nothing to do with IP concerns. Sony has been selling their linux kit for awhile - made a business opportunity out of it. The real problem they have is that they are trying to play drug dealer again - get em hooked then squeeze them for all they've got.
I wouldnt worry though, they cant control piracy on their flagship products like office and windows itself, now they have time to chase kids putting chips in gaming consoles? Lol.. not.
While it says it will attack hackers on a case-by-case basis, analysts say the company has so far tolerated the Xbox hacking as an unavoidable nuisance.
:P
Alright, im still having trouble with people selling others hardware products with the intentions of them using it for a specific purpose - and then suddenly its a punishable offense that they are going "attack". What business is it of theirs what I do with my XBox?
If these machines come with these kinds of restrictions I think we're still getting ripped off at 180$ a box. Im on my way to buy an XBox to modify just for spite.
Microsoft and Sun will both be big losers in my opinion, for reasons of simple economics. Commoditization of software has been going on for a long time. This is why you see Microsoft constantly screaming from the rooftops about their new features, which 90% of people dont care about. Its the only thing that makes them different from your Linux's and OpenOffice's.
There will come a point when it really just wont functionally matter which os or productivity suite you use. At that point in time, the cheapest alternative always wins. So unless Microsoft plans on paying us to use their software - time and open source software will inevitably have their way with them.
Linux does not do everything that Solaris and its counterparts may do, but the list of things that it does provide that say Solaris doesnt is much longer..
- a default install that isnt a nightmare security wise
- a fully functioning shell environment after installation including paths and vars
- a selection of fairly functional package management tools that go beyond install/uninstall
- a solid and fully functional C/C++ development environment including GUI tools
- a huge free software base, most of which compiles without modification
- a very large selection of commodity hardware support
- a very active development base that provides real results as time goes on (solaris looks a little more stale with each release)
- source code for most of the software it provides
Linux will get the improved SMP support and NFS performance as time goes on, you can see it happening with each release - can you say the same thing about its UNIX counterparts against this list?
Whats the difference between a windows 2000 cd and a well crafted linux boot/rescue disk with the ntfs driver installed.
You can do the same with linux from windows if you have a ext filesystem driver or browser application. None of the major player operating systems are without this flaw.
...funny how you can buy more computers than you can use but you can never scrape up the cash for a kvm...heh