>>XP is not ready for coming challenges: 64bit, more than 4GB of memory
Do desktop users really need that stuff? I certainly do not. I currently work as a sysadmin: solaris and windows2003. I have XP on my work, and home, laptops. I am not a gamer. I actually think my desktop/laptop needs are fairly typical. Why do I need 64 bit, and 4gbs of memory? My company has no interest in "upgrading" desktops, or laptops, and I don't blame them.
If you are going to answer, please be very specific, exactly what good does it do me to "upgrade?"
I seem to missing your point. As far as I know, privacy will still exist. I know of no proposal to make medical records wide open.
I happen to work as a sysadmin for a company that works with medical records. Just last Friday I had to attend a 90 minute training session about FOIA and HIPAA and other matters relating electronic filing of medical records. I was left with the impression that they are actually increasing privacy.
I don't suppose it has ever occurred to you that not everybody is in *your* situation? Maybe you should try reading the news? Massive layoffs announced constantly, new records of unemployment set every month. Major business failures all over the place. Record foreclosures, and so on and so on.
This might be hard for you to understand, but if *you* are employed, that does mean the entire world is employed. If you are getting interviews, it does not mean that everybody in the world is getting interviews. Understand? Probably not.
Your unverifiable, arrogant, bragging, does not change the current economic situation. And the current economic situation is easily verifiable.
BTW: I am gainfully employed myself. But I am not so stupid, uniformed, and arrogant, as to assume that because *I* am employed, then everything must be just dandy for everybody else.
US IT workers are still being priced out of the market - read the headlines, massive layoffs are everywhere, and the corporations are lobbying for more guest workers.
US companies do not want US IT workers. That is all there is to it. Foreign labor is cheaper, it's a no-brainer.
What Darl is doing makes perfect sense. First you must remember that scox was about to go belly-up before the scam. Scox has never been profitable. If not for the scam, scox would have been bankrupt years ago.
Thanks to all of that money from msft, Darl is taking in about $200K a year, and his brother is making even more. Not bad for small-time Utah scammers.
US IT workers are being priced out of the market. Even if the economy turns around, there will be no great demand for US IT workers - or any US STEM workers.
Maybe Americans should be looking into other career fields? Maybe healthcare, law, law enforcement, or military?
Taking any job might just be a way to paint yourself into a corner. If you start working as a $9 an hour helpdesk tech, you will be seen as a $9 an hour helpdesk tech - no way is anybody going to hire you as a $70K a year software engineer, no matter what you did before the helpdesk job.
Along those lines: Get that experience on your resume. If you can't get it as paid experience, donate your time as a sys admin to a charity, a community group, whatever.
I see this brain-dead advice all over the place. It is so amazingly stupid, I can hardly believe people keep posting it. 1) Unless you can afford to live with a zero income for several years, the advice is a non-starter. 2) This sort of experience is rarely, if ever, valuable.
Because, five years later, when the economy does recover as it always does, those few with the experience get to make a lot of money again.
The problem for US IT workers is not just the recession. US STEM workers, including IT workers are being priced out of the market - just like US assembly line workers were priced out of the maret in the 1980s. IT jobs are being offshored in huge numbers, and the jobs that can not be offshored are being done by guest workers.
I expect the long-term trend to continue down for US IT workers. I agree that there was an upturn in 2003, but it did not nearly compensate for the devastation that occurred in 2001/2002.
US workers are being priced out of STEM jobs, that is all there is to it.
I agree that many of the positions that have been eliminated will be refilled - they have to be. But those positions will be refilled by younger, and cheaper, workers - in many cases: guest workers.
Long term, I firmly believe that the trend is down for US IT workers. Simply put: US workers are being priced out of the market. Offshore workers are much cheaper, and the jobs that can not be done offshore, will be done by guest workers, which is still significantly cheaper. Also, hiring guest workers makes it easier to offshore even more jobs.
BTW: since the positions would be re-filled anyway, Obama's $3000 per employee stimulus package is just another handout to US corporations. Obama will be praised for creating jobs.
I read dice message boards fairly frequently. I could not help but notice how many college graduates could not find decent employment in IT. I collected some of the posts, and put them in a blog article:
Let's suppose I have a medium sized business. I have a tight budget, and I have 100 desktop systems, all running XP.
It seems to me that moving to a new OS would be very expensive. I would have to buy, and install new hardware, I would have to move all the apps, and data, over. Everybody would have to learn the system.
Okay, so it would be a big expense, it would difficult, it might slow down productivity for awhile. But, I am willing to do it, if I have a good reason.
So what is my good reason? By "good" I mean damn good - as in a compelling reason. Is there some killer apps that will not run on XP? Will vista or win7 really increase productivity? If so, how? Will vista or win7 really increase security? If so, how?
I think it's a fair question.
BTW, where I work, it's all XP. We are not even thinking about vista or win7. Why should we?
Groklaw is something like an established brand name. Groklaw has been quoted - or mentioned - in many major publications, groklaw has has won many awards, and has an established reader base.
Groklaw is not just about the scox case. Groklaw has covered, in considerable depth, many legal issues relating to IT. For example the OOXML scam.
Although I would welcome PJ to write more articles, I don't think groklaw really needs PJ anymore.
Just last March, Bill Gates sat before the US congress and claimed that the USA needed unlimited H-1B visas. This was coming from the company that hires more H-1Bs than any other US company. Msft even whipped up a bogus think-tank report to "prove" that every time a US company requested an H-1B, that created 5 new jobs for Americans. Why doesn't msft just request a bunch more H-1B, and thus create jobs for those about to be laid off?
So how can msft claim there is shortage of US workers, at the same time that msft is laying off US workers?
I am in Denver Colorado, I can hire an experienced PHP developer, locally, for $15 an hour any day of the week. And your saying that $75 an hour to $125 an hour is common? I take it you're a recruiter?
I see these type of ads all the time. I guess these bozos don't want to pay $2 an hour for an offshore worker, so they hope to get some naive developer to work for free.
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The difference is: other operating systems had something worthwhile to offer with their upgrades.
Franky, I don't see what Vista, or Win7, or even XP, have to offer me. Win2k runs all my hw and sw, and does not have that horrid DRM crap.
Let me know when microsoft has something worth upgrading to.
But how many of those other releases had a six year long release cycle?
>>XP is not ready for coming challenges: 64bit, more than 4GB of memory
Do desktop users really need that stuff? I certainly do not. I currently work as a sysadmin: solaris and windows2003. I have XP on my work, and home, laptops. I am not a gamer. I actually think my desktop/laptop needs are fairly typical. Why do I need 64 bit, and 4gbs of memory? My company has no interest in "upgrading" desktops, or laptops, and I don't blame them.
If you are going to answer, please be very specific, exactly what good does it do me to "upgrade?"
Okay, why should businesses switch their desktops from XP to Win7? I mean businesses other than game companies.
I seem to missing your point. As far as I know, privacy will still exist. I know of no proposal to make medical records wide open.
I happen to work as a sysadmin for a company that works with medical records. Just last Friday I had to attend a 90 minute training session about FOIA and HIPAA and other matters relating electronic filing of medical records. I was left with the impression that they are actually increasing privacy.
Msft pulled the same stunt for the Democratic National Convention:
http://ixnotes.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/democratic-national-convention-against-gnulinux-or-bought-by-microsoft/
And for the Olympics.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080623-nbc-olympics-on-the-go-download-service-is-vista-only.html
Must be nice to able to buy so much influence.
It's not just you, look at the job ads. Education is nice to have, as an extra; but experience is a must.
In this economy, if you don't already have experience, you are not likely to get it.
I don't suppose it has ever occurred to you that not everybody is in *your* situation? Maybe you should try reading the news? Massive layoffs announced constantly, new records of unemployment set every month. Major business failures all over the place. Record foreclosures, and so on and so on.
This might be hard for you to understand, but if *you* are employed, that does mean the entire world is employed. If you are getting interviews, it does not mean that everybody in the world is getting interviews. Understand? Probably not.
Your unverifiable, arrogant, bragging, does not change the current economic situation. And the current economic situation is easily verifiable.
BTW: I am gainfully employed myself. But I am not so stupid, uniformed, and arrogant, as to assume that because *I* am employed, then everything must be just dandy for everybody else.
> With an emerging technology, no one has experience
Employers *always* want experience. Look at the job ads.
> People: you're already at the bottom, nowhere to go but up.
I expect the IT market to get much worse for US IT workers. Even if we get out of this recession. Americans are being priced out of the market.
> There is no better time to start working than now.
WTF!!!!?
I *am* a US IT worker.
So am I, what does that have to do with anything?
US IT workers are still being priced out of the market - read the headlines, massive layoffs are everywhere, and the corporations are lobbying for more guest workers.
US companies do not want US IT workers. That is all there is to it. Foreign labor is cheaper, it's a no-brainer.
What Darl is doing makes perfect sense. First you must remember that scox was about to go belly-up before the scam. Scox has never been profitable. If not for the scam, scox would have been bankrupt years ago.
Thanks to all of that money from msft, Darl is taking in about $200K a year, and his brother is making even more. Not bad for small-time Utah scammers.
US IT workers are being priced out of the market. Even if the economy turns around, there will be no great demand for US IT workers - or any US STEM workers.
Maybe Americans should be looking into other career fields? Maybe healthcare, law, law enforcement, or military?
Taking any job might just be a way to paint yourself into a corner. If you start working as a $9 an hour helpdesk tech, you will be seen as a $9 an hour helpdesk tech - no way is anybody going to hire you as a $70K a year software engineer, no matter what you did before the helpdesk job.
According to Lou Dobbs, scientists are making about $35K a year. I don't see where would be enough to pay your loans and earn a living.
Along those lines: Get that experience on your resume. If you can't get it as paid experience, donate your time as a sys admin to a charity, a community group, whatever.
I see this brain-dead advice all over the place. It is so amazingly stupid, I can hardly believe people keep posting it. 1) Unless you can afford to live with a zero income for several years, the advice is a non-starter. 2) This sort of experience is rarely, if ever, valuable.
Because, five years later, when the economy does recover as it always does, those few with the experience get to make a lot of money again.
The problem for US IT workers is not just the recession. US STEM workers, including IT workers are being priced out of the market - just like US assembly line workers were priced out of the maret in the 1980s. IT jobs are being offshored in huge numbers, and the jobs that can not be offshored are being done by guest workers.
How are people supposed to "pay their dues" when even people with college degrees can not find entry-level employment?
http://techtoil.org/wiki/doku.php?id=articles:news_and_commentary
I expect the long-term trend to continue down for US IT workers. I agree that there was an upturn in 2003, but it did not nearly compensate for the devastation that occurred in 2001/2002.
US workers are being priced out of STEM jobs, that is all there is to it.
I agree that many of the positions that have been eliminated will be refilled - they have to be. But those positions will be refilled by younger, and cheaper, workers - in many cases: guest workers.
Long term, I firmly believe that the trend is down for US IT workers. Simply put: US workers are being priced out of the market. Offshore workers are much cheaper, and the jobs that can not be done offshore, will be done by guest workers, which is still significantly cheaper. Also, hiring guest workers makes it easier to offshore even more jobs.
BTW: since the positions would be re-filled anyway, Obama's $3000 per employee stimulus package is just another handout to US corporations. Obama will be praised for creating jobs.
I read dice message boards fairly frequently. I could not help but notice how many college graduates could not find decent employment in IT. I collected some of the posts, and put them in a blog article:
http://techtoil.org/wiki/doku.php?id=articles:news_and_commentary
Let's suppose I have a medium sized business. I have a tight budget, and I have 100 desktop systems, all running XP.
It seems to me that moving to a new OS would be very expensive. I would have to buy, and install new hardware, I would have to move all the apps, and data, over. Everybody would have to learn the system.
Okay, so it would be a big expense, it would difficult, it might slow down productivity for awhile. But, I am willing to do it, if I have a good reason.
So what is my good reason? By "good" I mean damn good - as in a compelling reason. Is there some killer apps that will not run on XP? Will vista or win7 really increase productivity? If so, how? Will vista or win7 really increase security? If so, how?
I think it's a fair question.
BTW, where I work, it's all XP. We are not even thinking about vista or win7. Why should we?
By low-end, I mean a 1ghz cpu, and 1gb or ram.
Groklaw is something like an established brand name. Groklaw has been quoted - or mentioned - in many major publications, groklaw has has won many awards, and has an established reader base.
Groklaw is not just about the scox case. Groklaw has covered, in considerable depth, many legal issues relating to IT. For example the OOXML scam.
Although I would welcome PJ to write more articles, I don't think groklaw really needs PJ anymore.
Just last March, Bill Gates sat before the US congress and claimed that the USA needed unlimited H-1B visas. This was coming from the company that hires more H-1Bs than any other US company. Msft even whipped up a bogus think-tank report to "prove" that every time a US company requested an H-1B, that created 5 new jobs for Americans. Why doesn't msft just request a bunch more H-1B, and thus create jobs for those about to be laid off?
So how can msft claim there is shortage of US workers, at the same time that msft is laying off US workers?
I am in Denver Colorado, I can hire an experienced PHP developer, locally, for $15 an hour any day of the week. And your saying that $75 an hour to $125 an hour is common? I take it you're a recruiter?
I see these type of ads all the time. I guess these bozos don't want to pay $2 an hour for an offshore worker, so they hope to get some naive developer to work for free.