Thanks for that information. Have you got some screenshots?:) Even if I did allow a Real product to be installed on my computer, I doubt I could make that determination "live," since I can skin my Windows box to look like just about anything from a distance (using Litestep, among other things) and so forth. And it still won't give the level of detail I am asking for, as far as what types of tools they use. Just whatever's on screen when the cameras are on...
I didn't threaten FOIA, Johnny:) Merely suggested it. Besides, responding to this Ask Slashdot was irresistably easy, and I'd have had to think a bit about how to search for that information (and I would probably miss some of it). Thanks for the info.
Not just for the sake of completeness. It would certainly be interesting to compare software and hardware, and I don't mean in the competitive sense. I'm more interested in seeing whether each group has independently evolved the same tool suites to do the same tasks, or whether each group has realms of innovation.
You can bet it would be a great kickstart for the next generation of entrepreneurs to have a rudimentary insight into the types of problems (and early-generation solutions) they will have to work with in their own potential projects. Ironically, of course, that may be one reason for attempting to keep this information secret, keeping an ivory-tower mystique (and securing their jobs and their governments' scientific edge) rather than opening the next "space race" to all comers.
Cool. Same OS as in my ReplayTV, and in a lot of other consumer devices. But what tools are they using to work within that? Just whatever standard tools come with a dev package, or stuff they cooked up themselves, maybe some nice goodies WR gave them, etc.? Also, this still says nothing about the actual hardware platform they use. But thanks for that initial insight. Do you have a link to document that, where we could read more?
I'd really love to see what tools they were using/are using still, when coding the vehicles. In fact, I really think Slashdot should try hard to get some info from the development team as to what OS they're running on those little vehicles, not to mention the basic hardware platform. It would be a real eye-opener, in fact, if it was discovered that they were using off-the-shelf components for the core computing systems, or if the specs turn out to be less complex than current-generation mini-itx class boards you can buy on the open market.
They're supposedly a publicly-funded scientific project, so it would be revealing in itself if they refused to answer, claiming the need for secrecy. I dare you to file some FOIAs, Timothy:)
Ummm... most people look at Mensa membership as an indication that you haven't come to terms with being beat up on the playground in school by kids who were dumber than you.
When I was a little kid, I found some old Mensa Bulletins my parents had in a box of papers, and basically asked my mom why they didn't belong to the club for smart people, anymore. She related a story about how a Nobel-winning physicist (Polykarp Kusch?) came to the Dallas chapter in the late 60's/early 70's to speak at one meeting about his work, and was heckled by a bunch of members who thought they knew more about his field than he did. My parents got the obvious clue, and quit in disgust.
The only benefit to me that I could see to joining Mensa right now would be if it gave me more of a chance at people-networking, to get another job. I have yet to be convinced, however, that these would be people I'd want to be buddies with at work.
I know it's unfair to be prejudiced against them based upon my parents' experience, but I've also personally found that people who mention Mensa in their credentials not only tend to use it as padding but also often assume that people who don't belong to their club simply aren't as smart as they are - which looks suspiciously like more of the same arrogance I heard about when I was little.
You guys are all Linux people, so I'm sure you have the ability and wherewithal to set up a private local IRC service on your server. Set the meeting channel to keyed if you need to, but here's the best part: your local usernames on your server are visible in the/whois, so as long as you have usernames (maybe just for these meetings) that are your.name@*, you don't need any nickserve, etc., because everyone can see your name when you log in. If you have any suspicions still, you can pop to another screen and run "w" to see whether they're really logged in and running epic or bitchx or whatever.
hey, maybe the poster was just gay? Nothing wrong with that.
I'm surprised you haven't noticed yet just how homophobic many Slashdot readers really are. They'll be open minded when it comes to drugs or violating copyrights, but not when it comes to letting consenting adult males have sex with each other.
(You'd think straight male slashdotters would want as little competition for females as possible, actually)
We can look at the tobacco lawsuits filed by states in attempts to recover medical expenses as evidence of the negative externalities resulting from people "not hurting anyone else."
People will believe it actually has deterrent value, and stop being as alert.
Then, someone will smuggle a GPS jammer on board, and because we're less alert, they might be able to fly into something before we figure out that they disabled the system.
You can still buy the data discs at Minidisco for $12.99 each... pretty steep for 140 megabytes.
Yup, now, but remember that Zip disks were around $20 or so when they first came out. Regular MD discs at that link you provided (thanks! I mistakenly called this MD-ROM instead of MD-Data) are about $1.89/each, and I'm sure, had the data format been "popular," they would have come down somewhat in price, and probably had a few increases in density later, too.
Perhaps it wasn't the biggest flop, but Sony missed the chance at a huge media market share, and perhaps propping up their audio MiniDisc format, by not pushing the MD-ROM format harder. Imagine a disc smaller than a 3.5 inch floppy, holding a lot more than a Zip disk eventually would (MD-ROM preceded Iomega's Zip line), at a cheaper price per disc, with no click-of-death? The only one I ever saw was in a press release, but they claimed their small drive was low-power, and at the time, it would have been excellent for laptop use. Not to mention that you probably could have played the music format discs with it. Now, you can barely find any information on the format by Googling.
I've hesitated to rewrite them because I suspect the complete replacement of the pages would not be welcome. Equally, having them subject to popular vote means they are likely to be re-edited to return to copies of the simpistic rehashing of the simplistic information already on the web.
So put them on E2, then. We can't rewrite what you say, just vote on it or respond with our own writeups.
I think being able to show the process of debate in our variation of an encyclopedia is cool, because it shows the readers where the rough edges of knowledge and understanding are.
I can't understand why the slashdot community doesn't want to help out a dying webserver
Some of us prefer Everything2, which is actually run by some of the same people who created Slashdot. I'm not saying anything bad about Wikipedia, just like I wouldn't say anything about the online HHGTG project, but we are entitled to our own preferences. E2 is also in serious need of funds, especially as it just went through a cross-country server move.
Of course it is. What, you expect me to lay aside rational thought because of personal investment in the outcome? You probably want victims deciding punishment for criminals, instead of impartial judges, too.
The efficient worker is adaptable and retrains. He doesn't rely on protectionism to keep his job at the expense of the buying power of everyone else in his country.
Awardees are (theoretically) judged on their actual films, not on their trailers. Thanks for letting those of us who didn't see the movie know that the actual effects were much better than we imagined.
Rather than rush to fix it, I spent a week doing nothing but said I "was doing research into how to fix the problem." The 1 week without games was sufficiently traumatic that there's been no problem since.
Were you researching, or just lying to your kids? If you're going to punish them, at least be up front and tell them so, and not passively, secretly penalize them.
No secondary benefits from sampling, but secondary benefits (to Apple, not the music companies) in iPod sales and possibly in mindshare.
Why no secondary benefits? Don't you think people may try a song because, hey, they heard about it and it's less than a buck, and, hey, it sounds pretty cool, so one click or three away from buying the whole thing?
If Apple had gone to the cheese-grater look back then, they wouldn't have had to abandon the "cube" concept over such a silly thing as the clear plastic getting hairline internal cracks over time.
What with the rising popularity of SFF and Mini-ITX showing that compactness is starting to matter more to hobbyists, it would be interesting to see the market effects of a reintroduction.
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Oh, I see, now it makes sense - someone can't really pretend they're just passing on the mail from a legitimate host, because that legitimate host wouldn't relay through someone else without listing it. I guess that was obvious to everyone but me:)
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My home ISP is SBC, and while they may let me send mail through mail.swbell.net, chances are that's not the name of the outward-facing ring of mail servers they have (I am assuming they actually built an enterprise-class mail service, of course, which is a lot to assume about SBC).
How do I get all the names of their outward facing servers, which may not leave my original mail.swbell.net in headers as my first stop?
Speaking of editing headers, what's to stop the Asian remailers from having their servers generate fake preceding headers using legit server names and faked user names? Or even real user names, when they find them or want to get someone in trouble? If they claim to be downchain of a legit sender, what help is SPF?
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Thanks for that information. Have you got some screenshots? :) Even if I did allow a Real product to be installed on my computer, I doubt I could make that determination "live," since I can skin my Windows box to look like just about anything from a distance (using Litestep, among other things) and so forth. And it still won't give the level of detail I am asking for, as far as what types of tools they use. Just whatever's on screen when the cameras are on...
I didn't threaten FOIA, Johnny :) Merely suggested it. Besides, responding to this Ask Slashdot was irresistably easy, and I'd have had to think a bit about how to search for that information (and I would probably miss some of it). Thanks for the info.
Not just for the sake of completeness. It would certainly be interesting to compare software and hardware, and I don't mean in the competitive sense. I'm more interested in seeing whether each group has independently evolved the same tool suites to do the same tasks, or whether each group has realms of innovation.
You can bet it would be a great kickstart for the next generation of entrepreneurs to have a rudimentary insight into the types of problems (and early-generation solutions) they will have to work with in their own potential projects. Ironically, of course, that may be one reason for attempting to keep this information secret, keeping an ivory-tower mystique (and securing their jobs and their governments' scientific edge) rather than opening the next "space race" to all comers.
Cool. Same OS as in my ReplayTV, and in a lot of other consumer devices. But what tools are they using to work within that? Just whatever standard tools come with a dev package, or stuff they cooked up themselves, maybe some nice goodies WR gave them, etc.? Also, this still says nothing about the actual hardware platform they use. But thanks for that initial insight. Do you have a link to document that, where we could read more?
I'd really love to see what tools they were using/are using still, when coding the vehicles. In fact, I really think Slashdot should try hard to get some info from the development team as to what OS they're running on those little vehicles, not to mention the basic hardware platform. It would be a real eye-opener, in fact, if it was discovered that they were using off-the-shelf components for the core computing systems, or if the specs turn out to be less complex than current-generation mini-itx class boards you can buy on the open market.
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They're supposedly a publicly-funded scientific project, so it would be revealing in itself if they refused to answer, claiming the need for secrecy. I dare you to file some FOIAs, Timothy
When I was a little kid, I found some old Mensa Bulletins my parents had in a box of papers, and basically asked my mom why they didn't belong to the club for smart people, anymore. She related a story about how a Nobel-winning physicist (Polykarp Kusch?) came to the Dallas chapter in the late 60's/early 70's to speak at one meeting about his work, and was heckled by a bunch of members who thought they knew more about his field than he did. My parents got the obvious clue, and quit in disgust.
The only benefit to me that I could see to joining Mensa right now would be if it gave me more of a chance at people-networking, to get another job. I have yet to be convinced, however, that these would be people I'd want to be buddies with at work.
I know it's unfair to be prejudiced against them based upon my parents' experience, but I've also personally found that people who mention Mensa in their credentials not only tend to use it as padding but also often assume that people who don't belong to their club simply aren't as smart as they are - which looks suspiciously like more of the same arrogance I heard about when I was little.
all the paper-certs should love him as one of their own... assuming they're smart enough to understand the parallel
You guys are all Linux people, so I'm sure you have the ability and wherewithal to set up a private local IRC service on your server. Set the meeting channel to keyed if you need to, but here's the best part: your local usernames on your server are visible in the /whois, so as long as you have usernames (maybe just for these meetings) that are your.name@*, you don't need any nickserve, etc., because everyone can see your name when you log in. If you have any suspicions still, you can pop to another screen and run "w" to see whether they're really logged in and running epic or bitchx or whatever.
I'm surprised you haven't noticed yet just how homophobic many Slashdot readers really are. They'll be open minded when it comes to drugs or violating copyrights, but not when it comes to letting consenting adult males have sex with each other.
(You'd think straight male slashdotters would want as little competition for females as possible, actually)
We can look at the tobacco lawsuits filed by states in attempts to recover medical expenses as evidence of the negative externalities resulting from people "not hurting anyone else."
People will believe it actually has deterrent value, and stop being as alert.
Then, someone will smuggle a GPS jammer on board, and because we're less alert, they might be able to fly into something before we figure out that they disabled the system.
In the long run, useless.
Yup, now, but remember that Zip disks were around $20 or so when they first came out. Regular MD discs at that link you provided (thanks! I mistakenly called this MD-ROM instead of MD-Data) are about $1.89/each, and I'm sure, had the data format been "popular," they would have come down somewhat in price, and probably had a few increases in density later, too.
Perhaps it wasn't the biggest flop, but Sony missed the chance at a huge media market share, and perhaps propping up their audio MiniDisc format, by not pushing the MD-ROM format harder. Imagine a disc smaller than a 3.5 inch floppy, holding a lot more than a Zip disk eventually would (MD-ROM preceded Iomega's Zip line), at a cheaper price per disc, with no click-of-death? The only one I ever saw was in a press release, but they claimed their small drive was low-power, and at the time, it would have been excellent for laptop use. Not to mention that you probably could have played the music format discs with it. Now, you can barely find any information on the format by Googling.
So put them on E2, then. We can't rewrite what you say, just vote on it or respond with our own writeups.
I think being able to show the process of debate in our variation of an encyclopedia is cool, because it shows the readers where the rough edges of knowledge and understanding are.
You mean losers, don't you, plankeye?
Some of us prefer Everything2, which is actually run by some of the same people who created Slashdot. I'm not saying anything bad about Wikipedia, just like I wouldn't say anything about the online HHGTG project, but we are entitled to our own preferences. E2 is also in serious need of funds, especially as it just went through a cross-country server move.
Of course it is. What, you expect me to lay aside rational thought because of personal investment in the outcome? You probably want victims deciding punishment for criminals, instead of impartial judges, too.
The efficient worker is adaptable and retrains. He doesn't rely on protectionism to keep his job at the expense of the buying power of everyone else in his country.
One of the headlines on the news.com.com home page is "Lost? Hiding? Your sell phone is keeping tabs."
If CNet doesn't even correct glaring spelling errors, how can anyone expect anything reliable from it?
Awardees are (theoretically) judged on their actual films, not on their trailers. Thanks for letting those of us who didn't see the movie know that the actual effects were much better than we imagined.
In fact I've got the first disc from Greencine in the out basket by my feet.
Of course, you could also buy it from Amazon or places like that.
Were you researching, or just lying to your kids?
If you're going to punish them, at least be up front and tell them so, and not passively, secretly penalize them.
Why no secondary benefits? Don't you think people may try a song because, hey, they heard about it and it's less than a buck, and, hey, it sounds pretty cool, so one click or three away from buying the whole thing?
If Apple had gone to the cheese-grater look back then, they wouldn't have had to abandon the "cube" concept over such a silly thing as the clear plastic getting hairline internal cracks over time.
What with the rising popularity of SFF and Mini-ITX showing that compactness is starting to matter more to hobbyists, it would be interesting to see the market effects of a reintroduction.
Oh, I see, now it makes sense - someone can't really pretend they're just passing on the mail from a legitimate host, because that legitimate host wouldn't relay through someone else without listing it. I guess that was obvious to everyone but me :)
My home ISP is SBC, and while they may let me send mail through mail.swbell.net, chances are that's not the name of the outward-facing ring of mail servers they have (I am assuming they actually built an enterprise-class mail service, of course, which is a lot to assume about SBC).
How do I get all the names of their outward facing servers, which may not leave my original mail.swbell.net in headers as my first stop?
Speaking of editing headers, what's to stop the Asian remailers from having their servers generate fake preceding headers using legit server names and faked user names? Or even real user names, when they find them or want to get someone in trouble? If they claim to be downchain of a legit sender, what help is SPF?