West coast distribution pileups at the ports? Or have they cleared through the masses on the docks yet?
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yo, Mr. History, Lincoln jailed people left and right during the Civil war without process, he suspended the writ of habeus corpus. So Bush is hardly breaking new ground, and hasn't gone near so far as Lincoln.
And Lindh got his day in court. The traitor pled guilty in deal with prosecutors. He could have gone to trial, but obviously didn't like his chances.
OT: Source for your version of Gettysburg?
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I notice it differers slightly from the "Nicolay Draft", which omits "under God". Is the addition of "under God" a more modern artifact?
It is rather for us, the living, we here be dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people by the people for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
The Library of Congress mentions two drafts, though neither includes the phrase.
I recall as a kid buying cheap little biofeedback devices from radio shack. Straps to a finger if I remember correctly and works based on some galvinic skin response increasing conductivity (or I may be entirely confused.) Interesting thing is, one can train oneself to elicit the feedback response, and innately they function well in registering stress. Perhaps this could be used as a trigger for some other alarm to wake the husband? Just a thought, hope you are able to figure something out to help your friend.
"They should've been able to do so peacefully as they desired instead of having to fight a war to save lincoln's pride and chances for re-election."
Respectfully, I disagree with you concerning Lincoln's motivations in the matter. I think the following quote reveals the greater truth.
"Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth upon this continent a new nation: conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war. ..testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated. . . can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war.
We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate. ..we cannot consecrate. . . we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.
It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us. ..that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion. . . that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain. . . that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. . . and that government of the people. ..by the people. ..for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth. "
look, this happened to you a week following an unprecedented and tragic terrorist attack on American soil using passenger jets as cruise missles. You should never have left for your trip with an ID that might get flagged.
I travel a great deal, typically I'm wanded at least once a week at an airport. Is it a encroachment on my civil liberties? Of course. But these are times of national peril. Lincoln suspended the writ of habeus corpus during the civil war, and though he is well remembered, he is not remembered as a tyrant.
"Just what percent of the US even votes anymore, and how many people even care about it?"
dunno, but 10 to 1 the US presidential election turnout will be even lower in 2004 than it was in 2000. Especially in Florida. Can you really blame them?
I think it is pretty fucking lame of you to denigrate this person on a public message board when he doesn't have the opportunity to defend himself. The fact that you extend your perceptions of his behaviour to encompass all protestors speaks ill of your reasoning; the fact that your vendetta against this guy causes you to slander him in demonstrates a your lack of character.
not really, Kuro5hin suggests a hoax in the headline, then the commentors proceed to tear it apart. Not as wordy as Michael's story, but I'd hardly say they were taken in.
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I think you're right; the biggest problem I find with most of these arguments (and much of sociology in general) is that they seem to rely on correlation indicating causality. Katz states "The inverse correlation between the rise of screen-driven entertainment technologies and civic disconnection is persuasive." Why is it persuasive? As I've lived through my life the Dow Jones industrial average has trended consistently upward; am I to assume the stock market rise is caused by my aging process?
I think your comment about Handspring hanging round long enough to deliver gets to the crux of the biscuit. They're positioning themseleves for direct competition with Nokia, which isn't exactly an easier proposition than competing with Palm and the various flavors of PocketPC. They're in for a struggle anyway they go...
Zelazny's "Chronicals of Amber" (available in a bundled edition, or starting with "Nine Princes in Amber."
Moorcock has several good series revolving around his "Eternal Champion", and most of his stuff is very good, and undercut with a lot of that 70's style trippiness and sexuality. The Elric series is good, Hawkmoon, etc... and most have been recently reissued in collected sets.
"...Joe Burton, lead attorney for ElcomSoft, reacted to today's outcome saying "I want to make a statement on behalf of ElcomSoft, my client -- Both my client and I have, since the beginning of this case, maintained Dmitry's innocence on any and all criminal activity. From day-one of the arrest ElcomSoft has been willing to have the Government proceed against them and NOT Dmitry. Burton further states "you may remember that ElcomSoft offered to take Dmitry's place and substitute the company as the sole defendant in this case -- The company knows that neither Dmitry nor they committed any criminal acts and believes that in the end, they will be found innocent of any and all charges the U.S. Government is bringing against them as well...."
and Excite now has to pay to keep the network running for the next three months which will probably burn through most of the $320 million. AT&T had offered to absorb 300 employees and take $70 million in debt as well. Excite, their employees, AT&T, the customers AND the greedy bastard bondholders lose. what a bunch of assholes.
and that the author could have been more clear. Radio-carbon dating was a watershed change in the nature of the science. Stratigraphic relative dating has been around for a couple hundred years, but radio-carbon allowed the stratigraphic relative dates and non-stratified artifacts to be anchored by absolute dates. This caused a fundamental change in both the ability of the science to explain the past and the accuracy with which it does so. Ground penetrating radar and other remote sensing techniques streamline site-surveying, save time and labor, and vastly improve the technique of the science, but they have less impact on the scope by far than radio-carbon. Remote sensing has been around a long time in many forms, such as climbing a hill to observe vegetation patterns as indicators of subsurface artifact and feature ditribution.
for showing up in court yesterday to stand by his employee. He certainly didn't have to come all the way from Russia, and risked getting arrested himself to do so. It impressed me a great deal, and hopefully it will have a similar effect on the court.
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West coast distribution pileups at the ports? Or have they cleared through the masses on the docks yet?
yo, Mr. History, Lincoln jailed people left and right during the Civil war without process, he suspended the writ of habeus corpus. So Bush is hardly breaking new ground, and hasn't gone near so far as Lincoln.
And Lindh got his day in court. The traitor pled guilty in deal with prosecutors. He could have gone to trial, but obviously didn't like his chances.
I notice it differers slightly from the "Nicolay Draft", which omits "under God". Is the addition of "under God" a more modern artifact?
It is rather for us, the living, we here be dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people by the people for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
The Library of Congress mentions two drafts, though neither includes the phrase.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/gadd/gatr1.html
I recall as a kid buying cheap little biofeedback devices from radio shack. Straps to a finger if I remember correctly and works based on some galvinic skin response increasing conductivity (or I may be entirely confused.) Interesting thing is, one can train oneself to elicit the feedback response, and innately they function well in registering stress. Perhaps this could be used as a trigger for some other alarm to wake the husband? Just a thought, hope you are able to figure something out to help your friend.
"They should've been able to do so peacefully as they desired instead of having to fight a war to save lincoln's pride and chances for re-election."
.testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated. . . can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war.
.we cannot consecrate. . . we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.
.that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion. . . that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain. . . that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. . . and that government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth. "
Respectfully, I disagree with you concerning Lincoln's motivations in the matter. I think the following quote reveals the greater truth.
"Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth upon this continent a new nation: conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war. .
We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate. .
It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us. .
look, this happened to you a week following an unprecedented and tragic terrorist attack on American soil using passenger jets as cruise missles. You should never have left for your trip with an ID that might get flagged.
I travel a great deal, typically I'm wanded at least once a week at an airport. Is it a encroachment on my civil liberties? Of course. But these are times of national peril. Lincoln suspended the writ of habeus corpus during the civil war, and though he is well remembered, he is not remembered as a tyrant.
"Just what percent of the US even votes anymore, and how many people even care about it?"
dunno, but 10 to 1 the US presidential election turnout will be even lower in 2004 than it was in 2000. Especially in Florida. Can you really blame them?
I think it is pretty fucking lame of you to denigrate this person on a public message board when he doesn't have the opportunity to defend himself. The fact that you extend your perceptions of his behaviour to encompass all protestors speaks ill of your reasoning; the fact that your vendetta against this guy causes you to slander him in demonstrates a your lack of character.
..."I hate to make generalizations, but these radical anarchist types are all alike."...
I hate unfounded speculation, but I strongly suspect this kid used to swipe your lunch money.
not really, Kuro5hin suggests a hoax in the headline, then the commentors proceed to tear it apart. Not as wordy as Michael's story, but I'd hardly say they were taken in.
I think you're right; the biggest problem I find with most of these arguments (and much of sociology in general) is that they seem to rely on correlation indicating causality. Katz states "The inverse correlation between the rise of screen-driven entertainment technologies and civic disconnection is persuasive." Why is it persuasive? As I've lived through my life the Dow Jones industrial average has trended consistently upward; am I to assume the stock market rise is caused by my aging process?
I think your comment about Handspring hanging round long enough to deliver gets to the crux of the biscuit. They're positioning themseleves for direct competition with Nokia, which isn't exactly an easier proposition than competing with Palm and the various flavors of PocketPC. They're in for a struggle anyway they go...
Stalin knew well before it was actually dropped. I forget the name of their spy, but it is pretty well documented for anyone wanting to dig into it.
Zelazny's "Chronicals of Amber" (available in a bundled edition, or starting with "Nine Princes in Amber."
Moorcock has several good series revolving around his "Eternal Champion", and most of his stuff is very good, and undercut with a lot of that 70's style trippiness and sexuality. The Elric series is good, Hawkmoon, etc... and most have been recently reissued in collected sets.
"...Joe Burton, lead attorney for ElcomSoft, reacted to today's outcome saying "I want to make a statement on behalf of ElcomSoft, my client -- Both my client and I have, since the beginning of this case, maintained Dmitry's innocence on any and all criminal activity. From day-one of the arrest ElcomSoft has been willing to have the Government proceed against them and NOT Dmitry. Burton further states "you may remember that ElcomSoft offered to take Dmitry's place and substitute the company as the sole defendant in this case -- The company knows that neither Dmitry nor they committed any criminal acts and believes that in the end, they will be found innocent of any and all charges the U.S. Government is bringing against them as well...."
you know, this guy has a real class act employer.
will it remain a criminal case against Elcomsoft? How will they prosectue a Russian company with a US law?
you actually watched highlander 2!?!?
and Excite now has to pay to keep the network running for the next three months which will probably burn through most of the $320 million. AT&T had offered to absorb 300 employees and take $70 million in debt as well. Excite, their employees, AT&T, the customers AND the greedy bastard bondholders lose. what a bunch of assholes.
"They even stated they'd have made it free for download if it wasn't so honking big. "
-seems like if they hadn't put the entire OS in the update it wouldn't have been so honking big in the first place.
and a pompous troll at that ;-)
and that the author could have been more clear. Radio-carbon dating was a watershed change in the nature of the science. Stratigraphic relative dating has been around for a couple hundred years, but radio-carbon allowed the stratigraphic relative dates and non-stratified artifacts to be anchored by absolute dates. This caused a fundamental change in both the ability of the science to explain the past and the accuracy with which it does so. Ground penetrating radar and other remote sensing techniques streamline site-surveying, save time and labor, and vastly improve the technique of the science, but they have less impact on the scope by far than radio-carbon. Remote sensing has been around a long time in many forms, such as climbing a hill to observe vegetation patterns as indicators of subsurface artifact and feature ditribution.
"1) Faster propulsion, and if that means nuclear powered engines, so be it."
and risk spreading radioactive material through Earth's atmosophere? Remember what happened to Challenger?
I feel this qualifies as a troll.
so if I subscribe for a year, and Salon goes under in 3 months, will they give me my money back?
for showing up in court yesterday to stand by his employee. He certainly didn't have to come all the way from Russia, and risked getting arrested himself to do so. It impressed me a great deal, and hopefully it will have a similar effect on the court.