after careful examination of available data, and in light of recent probes, i have determined that my ex-girlfriend was always cold and frozen. there is no clear evidence of a soul, warm blood, or a conscience.
parent may be flamebait, but it's also accurate. especially considering the bit about the Internet being used to quickly lower loads by remotely throttling my air conditioner or heater. that's quite communistic. whether or not that is good or bad is another story...
how can the first mention of something be redundant? it should be offtopic or troll if anything. stupid geek mods - "if i was thinking it already then it's redundant"
i know where you're coming from - i just wince when i think about sitting down and reinstalling those components again.
if someone knowledgeable put an installer together, i'd have more time to deploy sensors at different points in my networks without needing dedicated boxes or similar hardware.
since snort is such a nice IDS and a good example of OSS components becoming more than their sum, it's nice to see books coming out.
it certainly isn't plug-n-play, but it's not super techical to install - it's just tedious and open to stupid installation mistakes. i've had a newb trainee install it in a couple of days... not bad for just diving in, but an automated installation would make snort the bomb. anyone know of progress in this area (on any platform)?
> This virus was defendable by a patch and I > guess if asked, I would help out if anyone I > know was affected. But I only ever do this > once. After that they are SOL.
that is an interesting viewpoint.
why don't fire fighters and rescue workers have this attitude? by your logic (which is quite correct), they'd have so much more time with their families, and some of them would even have lived longer. do you think they are taken advantage of? if so, why do they continue in their professions?
> I might add, you were only affected because you > WANTED to be. If you don't want to be affected > by these, then don't help your friends out. > Also, don't bitch about what you yourself have > put yourself into mmkay?
Not quite, unless you subscribe to a pedestrian notion of choice. Consider these statements:
-I MUST want to help. -Causality and choice are in mutual flux.
Understood correctly, it becomes pretty unclear what the "cause" is. It simply becomes a matter of morals, or efficiency. Pick one, or both.
Following, in either case:
-Helping people is good/efficient -Disrupting society is bad/inefficient
I help out my friends - that's part of my definition of friendship. You can do whatever you want. My personal ethical obligations don't need to conform to your ideals.
> If all of your stuff was patched and it was not stopped, then you missed something there hmm?
Bad antecedent - I meant that patching my stuff at work didn't prevent the impact on home users that rely on me. The point is that a worm creates extra (unproductive) work, and SOMEONE ends up doing it, and that's annoyingly inefficient.
> Am I supposed to feel sorry for you because you ran your ass ragged?
No - what nuance of "piss off" don't you understand? Your individual sympathy is not required, and your advice is unsolicited as well.
If you're trying to argue that writing and releasing worms into the wild is OK given that everyone is responsible for their own defense, then I would put forth that we are lucky that society is not based on such unforgivingly selfish axioms. Dystopic "road warrior"-like living is not desirable in my book. But hey, maybe I'm nutty.
2) Despite the fact that I own the "No, I will not fix your computer" shirt, I do have friends, neighbors and coworkers who got the worm and needed my help. Research, explanations, downloading patches, writing broadcast emails, and a few individual fixes cost me a day. And patching all of my servers didn't prevent it!!
3) In case you haven't caught on - NONE of my work or home machines were affected because they were either already patched or sufficiently hardened so that the vulnerability was already neutralized.
you're assuming too much about their intentions. based on the maturity level apparent in the strings in the executable, i'd say that anti-ms bashing and ostensibly noble intentions are just a convenient excuse for script-kiddie vandalism.
if it weren't, they'd post an exploit in a public forum and/or notify ms, not write a worm and release it into the wild.
i'm personally annoyed at all of the extra work this fscking thing cost me today - never mind that both my ISPs seem to be slower than shit and my iptables log grew 10 megs this week.
to the author - grow up and put a grey or white hat on if you want to play with the rest of us.
they mention this in the audio. apparently chimerism can manifest itself in a hermaphroditic fashion - they mention a (mostly) male chimera who apparently had ovarian tissue.
people have been using such setups successfully in production for years.
you use highly available switches, you use highly-available servers in any situation, i would hope.
for a company of nearly any appreciable size (above 50) TSE is a great way to ease deployment and maintenance overhead if you absolutely need a native Windows environment.
And, it can get Windows off the desktop (technically speaking).
sorry, i honestly thought you were trolling. should have read your comment history.
they don't really make single ropes long enough, but you could rap off of several ropes tied together if you have a technique for passing the knots (use ascenders or a prussik). the rope stretch with three dynamic ropes would get you off of all but the tallest buildings if you were inclined to use such a setup.
a 60-meter rope and a rap device will not safely get you out of the 35th floor of an office building. you'd rap off the end of your rope or get hung up on your knot 200 feet off the ground, assuming you could get out of the window and build a suitable anchor.
funny, and good point. i guess i prejudged cyborgs as cold and unfeeling - i've watched too much mainstream entertainment depicting a post-singularity human apocalypse imposed by rational, emotionless machines... i forgot that the borg queen still cared about nookie.
what's really depressing is how that this transhumanist version of a bionic man sacrifices lots of his human body (presumably some major organs and skeletal muscles) - but the artist can't let go of the damn penis. our cyborg progeny will have a totally artificial endocrine system, but fully-functional man meat.
won't sexual reproduction be passe in this crazy borgified world-gone-mad?
Soon (sooner, rather than later, due to the P2P witchhunt) there will be software that does this quite automatically. Ban remailers and something functionally equivalent will pop up.
There is just no likely way for the recording industry to stop P2P due to the momemntum of its technological development - never mind the arguments about scale you frequently see here.
This article is the funniest thing I have read in a long time.
"This is just over a few hours and I have almost 14,000 records with a variety of different titles ranging from Daddy Day Care to Anger Management and Charlie's Angels."
What the BBC didn't mention is that she is using the newest ueber-kewl anti-piracy spider PACKETNEWS.COM
For any similar industry stoolie morons lurking here - welcome to the net. You must be new here. "Pirates" switched from BBS to FTP to HTTP to IRC to P2P. The next step will be using crypto to obtain anonynimity that WILL foil IP traces. You will have to do better than chasing down sharers with a glorified webcrawler:
inform your clients that resistance is futile and they have to change their business model to catch up with new distribution technologies that the net enables.
Nice try though, and again: welcome to the digital era.
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after careful examination of available data, and in light of recent probes, i have determined that my ex-girlfriend was always cold and frozen. there is no clear evidence of a soul, warm blood, or a conscience.
...there are legions of old folks defending the gates of zion.
see, lloyd xmas was right: old people, while slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose!
Don't you go dyin' on me!
parent may be flamebait, but it's also accurate. especially considering the bit about the Internet being used to quickly lower loads by remotely throttling my air conditioner or heater. that's quite communistic. whether or not that is good or bad is another story...
maybe it's just bad corporate humor - powerpoint slides meant for exec types. the author anticipated:
"what does that C code mean"
"it's all greek to me"
har, har.
yep, saw it. oops. oh yeah, and fuck you AC.
how can the first mention of something be redundant? it should be offtopic or troll if anything. stupid geek mods - "if i was thinking it already then it's redundant"
They eat old peoples' medicine for fuel. As if the prescription drug problem wasn't bad enough...
i know where you're coming from - i just wince when i think about sitting down and reinstalling those components again.
if someone knowledgeable put an installer together, i'd have more time to deploy sensors at different points in my networks without needing dedicated boxes or similar hardware.
since snort is such a nice IDS and a good example of OSS components becoming more than their sum, it's nice to see books coming out.
it certainly isn't plug-n-play, but it's not super techical to install - it's just tedious and open to stupid installation mistakes. i've had a newb trainee install it in a couple of days... not bad for just diving in, but an automated installation would make snort the bomb. anyone know of progress in this area (on any platform)?
> This virus was defendable by a patch and I
> guess if asked, I would help out if anyone I
> know was affected. But I only ever do this
> once. After that they are SOL.
that is an interesting viewpoint.
why don't fire fighters and rescue workers have this attitude? by your logic (which is quite correct), they'd have so much more time with their families, and some of them would even have lived longer. do you think they are taken advantage of? if so, why do they continue in their professions?
> I might add, you were only affected because you > WANTED to be. If you don't want to be affected
> by these, then don't help your friends out.
> Also, don't bitch about what you yourself have
> put yourself into mmkay?
Not quite, unless you subscribe to a pedestrian notion of choice. Consider these statements:
-I MUST want to help.
-Causality and choice are in mutual flux.
Understood correctly, it becomes pretty unclear what the "cause" is. It simply becomes a matter of morals, or efficiency. Pick one, or both.
Following, in either case:
-Helping people is good/efficient
-Disrupting society is bad/inefficient
> Noone ever said that linux was the most stable design either
:D
I've heard some people say that. Click this link for some examples.
> First, don't fix your friends computers
I help out my friends - that's part of my definition of friendship. You can do whatever you want. My personal ethical obligations don't need to conform to your ideals.
> If all of your stuff was patched and it was not stopped, then you missed something there hmm?
Bad antecedent - I meant that patching my stuff at work didn't prevent the impact on home users that rely on me. The point is that a worm creates extra (unproductive) work, and SOMEONE ends up doing it, and that's annoyingly inefficient.
> Am I supposed to feel sorry for you because you ran your ass ragged?
No - what nuance of "piss off" don't you understand? Your individual sympathy is not required, and your advice is unsolicited as well.
If you're trying to argue that writing and releasing worms into the wild is OK given that everyone is responsible for their own defense, then I would put forth that we are lucky that society is not based on such unforgivingly selfish axioms. Dystopic "road warrior"-like living is not desirable in my book. But hey, maybe I'm nutty.
i don't see the term "script-kiddie" as indicative of chronological age.
posting a 'sploit after announcement of the vulnerability wouldn't be a repeat post.
1) Piss off.
2) Despite the fact that I own the "No, I will not fix your computer" shirt, I do have friends, neighbors and coworkers who got the worm and needed my help. Research, explanations, downloading patches, writing broadcast emails, and a few individual fixes cost me a day. And patching all of my servers didn't prevent it!!
3) In case you haven't caught on - NONE of my work or home machines were affected because they were either already patched or sufficiently hardened so that the vulnerability was already neutralized.
Nice try.
you're assuming too much about their intentions. based on the maturity level apparent in the strings in the executable, i'd say that anti-ms bashing and ostensibly noble intentions are just a convenient excuse for script-kiddie vandalism.
if it weren't, they'd post an exploit in a public forum and/or notify ms, not write a worm and release it into the wild.
i'm personally annoyed at all of the extra work this fscking thing cost me today - never mind that both my ISPs seem to be slower than shit and my iptables log grew 10 megs this week.
to the author - grow up and put a grey or white hat on if you want to play with the rest of us.
now that i know what a chimera is, it makes the star destroyer of the same name seem less bad-ass. oh well.
they mention this in the audio. apparently chimerism can manifest itself in a hermaphroditic fashion - they mention a (mostly) male chimera who apparently had ovarian tissue.
people have been using such setups successfully in production for years.
you use highly available switches, you use highly-available servers in any situation, i would hope.
for a company of nearly any appreciable size (above 50) TSE is a great way to ease deployment and maintenance overhead if you absolutely need a native Windows environment.
And, it can get Windows off the desktop (technically speaking).
UP!
sorry, i honestly thought you were trolling. should have read your comment history.
they don't really make single ropes long enough, but you could rap off of several ropes tied together if you have a technique for passing the knots (use ascenders or a prussik). the rope stretch with three dynamic ropes would get you off of all but the tallest buildings if you were inclined to use such a setup.
i'll bite, troll.
a 60-meter rope and a rap device will not safely get you out of the 35th floor of an office building. you'd rap off the end of your rope or get hung up on your knot 200 feet off the ground, assuming you could get out of the window and build a suitable anchor.
funny, and good point. i guess i prejudged cyborgs as cold and unfeeling - i've watched too much mainstream entertainment depicting a post-singularity human apocalypse imposed by rational, emotionless machines... i forgot that the borg queen still cared about nookie.
what's really depressing is how that this transhumanist version of a bionic man sacrifices lots of his human body (presumably some major organs and skeletal muscles) - but the artist can't let go of the damn penis. our cyborg progeny will have a totally artificial endocrine system, but fully-functional man meat.
won't sexual reproduction be passe in this crazy borgified world-gone-mad?
alt.anonymous.messages
+
anonymous remailer
+
4096-bit asymmetric key
=
private
Soon (sooner, rather than later, due to the P2P witchhunt) there will be software that does this quite automatically. Ban remailers and something functionally equivalent will pop up.
There is just no likely way for the recording industry to stop P2P due to the momemntum of its technological development - never mind the arguments about scale you frequently see here.
This article is the funniest thing I have read in a long time.
"This is just over a few hours and I have almost 14,000 records with a variety of different titles ranging from Daddy Day Care to Anger Management and Charlie's Angels."
What the BBC didn't mention is that she is using the newest ueber-kewl anti-piracy spider PACKETNEWS.COM
For any similar industry stoolie morons lurking here - welcome to the net. You must be new here. "Pirates" switched from BBS to FTP to HTTP to IRC to P2P. The next step will be using crypto to obtain anonynimity that WILL foil IP traces. You will have to do better than chasing down sharers with a glorified webcrawler:
inform your clients that resistance is futile and they have to change their business model to catch up with new distribution technologies that the net enables.
Nice try though, and again: welcome to the digital era.