Yeah right! If you haven't noticed changing anything that is not in the interest of the business world in the US has become impossible...we are governed by the lobbists...its impossible to get my congressmen, who are supposed to represent me....to even listen to my opinions....
If only that followed through, and when Compaq bought DEC, they became DEC....we might still have a viable Alpha Chip...that might have had some clout to win some battles instead of being an also ran... ah such potential...wasted!
Not really an option...I like the idea, but honestly I love the bands I love...and I will keep buying their discs....I also have CD's from serveal local bands, but the problem is getting them...then there are production issues quite often with the off main stream discs...and then there is the big issue...3 local bands I have liked got signed.
When working as a consultant from time to time I am asked by people what to get for internet access. My Reply is always the local Cable Modem service. For my customers...your service migh be bette in the price to vlaue ration equation. However as the guy they are gonna call to help them support it...ugh! Its not worth the time, cause your failures look like my failures.
1. I agree for what you get in many cases the cost is too high. My parents are on that side, why have a 49.99 feed when all you do is light browsing. Far too expensive when you can do dial up to as low as 9.99.
2. Depending on the access type in many cases costs are not comparitive. I got a call from verizon trying to sell me DSL on day(which actually isn't available in my nieghborhood thats that a different stroy). I let the guy do his speech, becuase I was in a non-stress mood, and I wanted to have some fun wiuth him. Anyway when he was done her had never mentioned speed. So I asked. His rrply was in the 192k range I seem to remember for 49.99/Month. I said I don't thinks so, he went back in speech mode...I stopped and asked him, which he though was better...1.5m or 192k for 49.99...first off he actually had to stop and think about it...which was funny...he said 1.5 eventually...I replyed well I get 1.5 for 49.99 from Charter cable why would I want 192k...
3. From my side I think 49.99 isn't a bad price for the 1.5 Cable line I have....certianly cheaper than some other solutions...I have heve seen and I never have a bit of trouble with it.
VS 6.0 is going to go away as a compilier at some point, yes DX is just an API, but the C++ Compiler that is going to compile calls to that API is going to be VS.NET...and those programs are going to execute on the.NET frame work...it is the set of DLL's that provides the runtime support for apps compiled in VS.Net...
...ok I am as anti MS as the next guy in most cases, but these allegations are just plain whining...
First of all the control does just what it should and hides(I don't remember a situlation to disable) those componets...
Second its meant for OEM's to use not really the end user...(Again was the spirt of the request, for OEM s to do the hiding)
Third, when using MS componets they usually need other componets its unfair for this to be changed...However I think MS should be forced to open the APIs to have others products fill those roles...
Finally.NET is a set of runtimes, you can't diable it, anything they is compiled with VS.NET will not work if you diabled it, and in the near future of new product releases thats going to be nearly every windows application and game....
I see ask slashdot as a community just like asking my co-workers...
In solving a problem step one is to stand up from my cube(or get on the phone for my one remote co-worker on the other coast), and make a general shout I am trying to do X has anyone ever tryed to do that before? Anyone know of any resources? Then consult the approprite web sites for the product I am using...then google, then search the usenet groups that might have a connection...then if I think its a good question ask slashdot... I've had two accepted even and they both got alot of traffic...
While there is sometimes a high noise to signal ratio on ask slashdot, it is at least better than most other places...and the self moderation tends to clear the wheat from the chaffe...
Usenet on the other hand is reaching(actually for me several years ago reached) a nearly unusable state...getting useful results from amoung the spam(some groups a used to monitor are now 90% spam) is nearly impossible...
Hey just suggestions...I really see no way out of the morass we are all in at this point...
The basic premise though is software costs to much...the truth is if GCC was supported and was a functional on windows as it is on Unix at least the compiler race would probably have some competition to control price.... The graphics race is a little harder, but gain if there were versions of gimp, imagemagick, and Blender that worked as well in windows as in Unix there might be more of a horse race there too... Its an interesting thought to bring up... We all want to see more main stream apps on linux, bsd, etc...however perhaps the other way to go is if the non main stream apps we all use as a replacement went the other way...? Its an interesting thought anyway...
Its good to know someone got my point the first guy got totally offended for no reason at all.... its not that the web pages are not helpful, its just that sometimes they are not enough....:> Ask Slashdot fills that void....
I can confidently say that inorder to keep my 1.5MB cable line... I would do with out: 1. Repairing a non-performance affecting electrical problem with my car. 2. Pay channels on my cable 3. ST:TNG Season 4 DVD's 4. Warcraft 3 5. 2 magazine subscriptions 6. cut the cost of lunch from $7+ to $5.00
For the most part the most functional software products have an extremely high cost to vlaue ratio... The solutions that publishers have come up with for these issues are not true acceptable. The cripiled versions...missing features, and functions(what the hell is the point of playing with it if you can't save your work, that one really irks me)...or the differnt leveled versions, professional, enterprise, architect...big deal I can but the pro edition for $200, but then i get a book on the product and find out the functions, features, and components I want or only in architect for $1500.00...that doesn't help...
MAKE one version, charge a reasonable price for it...$49.95...then if I do anything truely useful with it charge a royality for having written and compiled my code, or drawn my picture, etc with it...say 2% of the net profit I got from using your product to make my product...as reprehensible as forced registration is this might be a reasonable place for it...the registration code for the product would be burned into the anything that comes out of the product allowing things to be traced back to the end user/corporation.
Yeah yeah go ahead mod me down before you read the full reply, for having an unpopular opinion... but here it is anyway....
The reason for asking a question at ask slashdot is to get the help of people how have done it before. This is a plain stright forward simple truth. Yes in many cases you can go "ask google" however...you might get a page or two with in formation on the howto's...you will not get the life expirence information on how everyone did do it(as opposed to the one or two ways that google might give you)...the information that ask slashdot response will give you are the gotcha's the alternative approches, and so forth...
Its a community folks, personally I would rather ask the people who have done it and have the expirence that I can ask questions of during my implimentation...than trust it to some googled web page that may or my not even be currently maintained. Asking slashdot can also cut through alot of the bullshit that you might otherwise run into because the slashdoters who have bene there before will more often than not point you to the resources that did work for them...
Actually its Linus that Sucks as a developer, he handed him a big mess...its no surprise that Linus wanted out of 2.4 and on to 2.5 since beta was the only place he was gonna stableize the mess...
Tons, and I would Lump the Certs right in with the degree's...
I know lots of paper MCSE's who look at an actual NT/2000 Box and don't even know where to begin if the thing is down and in need of recovery....
Its really sad....
Again its real world, applied knowledge that should count, and the skill to use it that should matter....
Disclaimer: I do hold several Certs Including MCSE4/2000. I achived these for two reasons, I already knew what I was doing and my employeer paid for exams(they made it a goal on my goals sheet) as well as cut me a $100 check for each exam I passed, and a $750 bonus for achiving the final certs.
I am with the don't do it crowd. The world is so caught up in the degree mind set. What they really should be concentrating on is Knowledge. Beleieve me I work with plenty of Morons who have degrees. In the Computer field there is practically nothing that degree oriented schools can teach you that a good O'reilly, Sams, Wrox, etc... book can't and usually the teach yourself method is much quicker and comprehensive since its almost all real world use as you learn it. If we could the world to assign less value to degrees we would probably have more competent people in many computer field job roles. The price of admission would be to display competence...really the technonly field should be more like plumbing, and electrical work. Apprenticeships and such....
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Yeah right! If you haven't noticed changing anything that is not in the interest of the business world in the US has become impossible...we are governed by the lobbists...its impossible to get my congressmen, who are supposed to represent me....to even listen to my opinions....
If only that followed through, and when Compaq bought DEC, they became DEC....we might still have a viable Alpha Chip...that might have had some clout to win some battles instead of being an also ran...
ah such potential...wasted!
If HP is coxying up with Microsoft like this, it explains why HP let go one of the most outspoken MS detractors.
Moderated for the users and by the users isn't democracy wonderful...
If only US citizens lived a democratic country with government for the people and by the people...
I wonder why this one wasn't a front page story?
You obviously don't live in central Mass....
Hummm....
Not really an option...I like the idea, but honestly I love the bands I love...and I will keep buying their discs....I also have CD's from serveal local bands, but the problem is getting them...then there are production issues quite often with the off main stream discs...and then there is the big issue...3 local bands I have liked got signed.
PPOE SUCKS...drop it.
When working as a consultant from time to time I am asked by people what to get for internet access. My Reply is always the local Cable Modem service. For my customers...your service migh be bette in the price to vlaue ration equation. However as the guy they are gonna call to help them support it...ugh! Its not worth the time, cause your failures look like my failures.
I see all the sides of this....
1. I agree for what you get in many cases the cost is too high. My parents are on that side, why have a 49.99 feed when all you do is light browsing. Far too expensive when you can do dial up to as low as 9.99.
2. Depending on the access type in many cases costs are not comparitive. I got a call from verizon trying to sell me DSL on day(which actually isn't available in my nieghborhood thats that a different stroy). I let the guy do his speech, becuase I was in a non-stress mood, and I wanted to have some fun wiuth him. Anyway when he was done her had never mentioned speed. So I asked. His rrply was in the 192k range I seem to remember for 49.99/Month. I said I don't thinks so, he went back in speech mode...I stopped and asked him, which he though was better...1.5m or 192k for 49.99...first off he actually had to stop and think about it...which was funny...he said 1.5 eventually...I replyed well I get 1.5 for 49.99 from Charter cable why would I want 192k...
3. From my side I think 49.99 isn't a bad price for the 1.5 Cable line I have....certianly cheaper than some other solutions...I have heve seen and I never have a bit of trouble with it.
Umm not exactly....
.NET frame work...it is the set of DLL's that provides the runtime support for apps compiled in VS.Net...
VS 6.0 is going to go away as a compilier at some point, yes DX is just an API, but the C++ Compiler that is going to compile calls to that API is going to be VS.NET...and those programs are going to execute on the
I just spent a week on this with MS...
Um... .Net is the MS programming environment of cohice now...while DX9 might not be .Net Only don't be suprised if DX9.1 or 10 is...
.Net is the runtime enviroment that will be required going forward, don't kid yourself its much more than just a VM...
The again
...ok I am as anti MS as the next guy in most cases, but these allegations are just plain whining...
.NET is a set of runtimes, you can't diable it, anything they is compiled with VS.NET will not work if you diabled it, and in the near future of new product releases thats going to be nearly every windows application and game....
First of all the control does just what it should and hides(I don't remember a situlation to disable) those componets...
Second its meant for OEM's to use not really the end user...(Again was the spirt of the request, for OEM s to do the hiding)
Third, when using MS componets they usually need other componets its unfair for this to be changed...However I think MS should be forced to open the APIs to have others products fill those roles...
Finally
I see ask slashdot as a community just like asking my co-workers...
In solving a problem step one is to stand up from my cube(or get on the phone for my one remote co-worker on the other coast), and make a general shout I am trying to do X has anyone ever tryed to do that before? Anyone know of any resources?
Then consult the approprite web sites for the product I am using...then google, then search the usenet groups that might have a connection...then if I think its a good question ask slashdot...
I've had two accepted even and they both got alot of traffic...
While there is sometimes a high noise to signal ratio on ask slashdot, it is at least better than most other places...and the self moderation tends to clear the wheat from the chaffe...
Usenet on the other hand is reaching(actually for me several years ago reached) a nearly unusable state...getting useful results from amoung the spam(some groups a used to monitor are now 90% spam) is nearly impossible...
anyway...
Hey just suggestions...I really see no way out of the morass we are all in at this point...
The basic premise though is software costs to much...the truth is if GCC was supported and was a functional on windows as it is on Unix at least the compiler race would probably have some competition to control price....
The graphics race is a little harder, but gain if there were versions of gimp, imagemagick, and Blender that worked as well in windows as in Unix there might be more of a horse race there too...
Its an interesting thought to bring up...
We all want to see more main stream apps on linux, bsd, etc...however perhaps the other way to go is if the non main stream apps we all use as a replacement went the other way...? Its an interesting thought anyway...
Its good to know someone got my point the first guy got totally offended for no reason at all....
its not that the web pages are not helpful, its just that sometimes they are not enough....:> Ask Slashdot fills that void....
I can confidently say that inorder to keep my 1.5MB cable line...
I would do with out:
1. Repairing a non-performance affecting electrical problem with my car.
2. Pay channels on my cable
3. ST:TNG Season 4 DVD's
4. Warcraft 3
5. 2 magazine subscriptions
6. cut the cost of lunch from $7+ to $5.00
For the most part the most functional software products have an extremely high cost to vlaue ratio...
The solutions that publishers have come up with for these issues are not true acceptable. The cripiled versions...missing features, and functions(what the hell is the point of playing with it if you can't save your work, that one really irks me)...or the differnt leveled versions, professional, enterprise, architect...big deal I can but the pro edition for $200, but then i get a book on the product and find out the functions, features, and components I want or only in architect for $1500.00...that doesn't help...
MAKE one version, charge a reasonable price for it...$49.95...then if I do anything truely useful with it charge a royality for having written and compiled my code, or drawn my picture, etc with it...say 2% of the net profit I got from using your product to make my product...as reprehensible as forced registration is this might be a reasonable place for it...the registration code for the product would be burned into the anything that comes out of the product allowing things to be traced back to the end user/corporation.
Yeah yeah go ahead mod me down before you read the full reply, for having an unpopular opinion...
but here it is anyway....
The reason for asking a question at ask slashdot is to get the help of people how have done it before. This is a plain stright forward simple truth. Yes in many cases you can go "ask google" however...you might get a page or two with in formation on the howto's...you will not get the life expirence information on how everyone did do it(as opposed to the one or two ways that google might give you)...the information that ask slashdot response will give you are the gotcha's the alternative approches, and so forth...
Its a community folks, personally I would rather ask the people who have done it and have the expirence that I can ask questions of during my implimentation...than trust it to some googled web page that may or my not even be currently maintained. Asking slashdot can also cut through alot of the bullshit that you might otherwise run into because the slashdoters who have bene there before will more often than not point you to the resources that did work for them...
Actually its Linus that Sucks as a developer, he handed him a big mess...its no surprise that Linus wanted out of 2.4 and on to 2.5 since beta was the only place he was gonna stableize the mess...
Bullshit...
I pay plenty of cost as the reciever of junk email...
The power to run the computer, bandwidth charges...just to start...
Tons, and I would Lump the Certs right in with the degree's...
I know lots of paper MCSE's who look at an actual NT/2000 Box and don't even know where to begin if the thing is down and in need of recovery....
Its really sad....
Again its real world, applied knowledge that should count, and the skill to use it that should matter....
Disclaimer: I do hold several Certs Including MCSE4/2000. I achived these for two reasons, I already knew what I was doing and my employeer paid for exams(they made it a goal on my goals sheet) as well as cut me a $100 check for each exam I passed, and a $750 bonus for achiving the final certs.
If there is a law against Junk Faxing, why are we having such a hard time getting equivilent laws against Junk Mailing....same thing in my mind.
I am with the don't do it crowd. The world is so caught up in the degree mind set. What they really should be concentrating on is Knowledge. Beleieve me I work with plenty of Morons who have degrees. In the Computer field there is practically nothing that degree oriented schools can teach you that a good O'reilly, Sams, Wrox, etc... book can't and usually the teach yourself method is much quicker and comprehensive since its almost all real world use as you learn it. If we could the world to assign less value to degrees we would probably have more competent people in many computer field job roles. The price of admission would be to display competence...really the technonly field should be more like plumbing, and electrical work. Apprenticeships and such....
Not rude just blunt, and too the point....