Someone mod this flamebait as such. The rest of the world is very nearly Socialist and you think Liberalism is dead? Get a clue, it may appear this way in the USA because USians have abandoned their democracy to be ruled by the Corporate Elite; and they like it! The rest of the world hasnt - and dont like the idea at all.
what a sad commentary on the developed world - self obsessed and vain. I stopped caring about my personal appearance 'round the same time I hit puberty; if you use clothes/hair/makeup (whatever) to express yourself, you havnt got much to say.
While I think Science for Science's Sake is a very worthwhile endeavour as it always adds to our understanding of the universe, this story makes me sick.
I cant say anything more than "Why the fuck would anyone/country want/need/desire/imagine/devise/whatever a scenario to kill 10million people by dropping a fucking asteroid on them". The same logic that wants to put up ICBM missle defense grids are the same that want to spy on China are the same who want to extort apologies are the same that want to kill palestinians are the same that want to sign the FTAA are the same that want fund studies to divert asteroids into the planet - who the fuck are these people and who put them in charge?
my sister is a patent examiner at the Patent and Trademark Office
You should submit a article request to slashdot as "Ask a Random Anonymous Patent Examiner" and let/. ask questions like "are they really instructing you to approve everything and let the courts settle it?"; "what searches actually take place for prior art" and such - so we can get some unrestrained, un-editied, DIRECT contact with a person 'on the inside'.
Now, i dont know how the USPTO organizes its staff (she may work in a completely different 'field' than tech)... but it would be interesting... maybe she knows someone who DOES examine technology patents.
the Linux OS woulda been, think of this: If linux was such a great gaming platform, then I'd expect to find quite a few games for it already.
They were also courting the OpenSource idea, and gratis software. no other console would will make gratis software available for dload - and no other invited 'ordinary' coders to make sw for their boxen. This is very unique. I kept imagining the great MP3 Players with superb(sp?) visuals connected to your TV, tiVo functionality and real libre games... Indrema has a good idea that will eventually make it to peoples homes.
no one would buy it, because they've never heard of it.
Its really ironic that 'consumers'* dont know how to make decisions outside of the marketing tripe they are fed. Its fucking making me sick - are people so stupid that they cannot analyze *REAL* items against one another except to weigh their Markatroid Interst(TM)?
Im not necessarily suggesting Indrema had the best product - but the argument that the 'market' wouldnt go for it because they didnt get the million-mega-buck marketroid campaign is really sad... how fucking disturbing. Dont people *RESEARCH* the comparable products available before makinhg a decision?
The *REST* of the planet is trying their damndest to get Madonna and McDonalds in their countries as fast as they can. The LEADERS in other countries have a ton of ideas about how the world should be run -- all of them bad. American doesn't want to rule the world, they just want to have a good time on Saturday night.
Which is better -- people who just want to have their Big Macs and Budweisers, or people who want to control the lives of every other person in the world for an idealized goal only definable by a handful of people?
Ill tell your friend, i have alot of capable and wise retorts for your arguments... but im too snapped on HoneyBrown & Keiths to bother. But your points above are very salient and interesting. Basically: I dont know. I dont propose to have the answers to all(most/some) of the answers, i believe i would like to be apart of the solution... whatever it may be. I have no problem suppporting "It".
If you have a good idea to provide for the happiness/welfare of *EVERYONE* im willing to die for it.... but lets get on with it, im tired of all this suffering. Im sad that others people are sick, hungry and angry. clal me an idealist but im really interested in peace, love and understanding. "No" im not kidding - dont you ever get upset about the futility and anger you have to deal with everyh day?
I am getting really angered at the American peoples overriding desire to support everyone in the world. If you are so damn supportive of the Chinese you should move your butts over there and start working in thier factories. 14 hours a day for a few bowls of rice will teach you how bad you had it living in the terrible United States of American.
Make no mistake: Its like this in China *BECAUSE* you live so well in the states. Do you think people are lying when they tell you about how absurd American Consumer culture appears to the rest of the world? how about pollution - do you think its a lie that America is the main offender when it comes to the items the Kyoto Protocol is trying to address? Do you think the rest of the world feels you are imperialist warmongers - but we are *all* wrong about it?
Make no mistake friend, America is enjoying a good position in history at this moment, but they are by no means a testament to 'good decisions' or a model of a 'good culture'. Raping the planet, using your military to defend business interests, meddling in foreign affairs coupled with the good fortune of never having a war on your own soil - this soulnessness and ruthlessness is what put your culture at the top of the 'wealth' pile... nothing more. But I believe the latter cause would teach US citizens a great deal about where their priorities should be. You'd be surprised I bet about how adamant the citizens of the country would be about universal health care, social programs and environmental/social issues if their little 'pop culture utopia' were ever destroyed by a war on US soil. USian frivolity and hubris is beyond ridiculous approaching the surreal.
US of America would be well served to find some Tolerance, Understanding and Community - when you look at your culture's 'wealth' you may be surprised to find it is actually the most bankrupt in the things that matter. The rest of the world has some very different priorities than to slave to make a few people rich (as USians seem to do) - maybe this is why the rest of us dont have as many material good - ever think that you dont need all that crap to be happy?
The only problem is that USian greed has reached the point where they must infect the rest of the planet to continue to grow/exploit - and rest assured, the *REST* of the planet has *VERY* different ideas about how the world should be run... and many USians are even beginning to agree.
The US plane was in international airspace on autopilot, the Chinese fighter pilot got cocky and accidentally hit the US plane.
The China has said that the plane had entered their airspace - and the US plane suddenly changed course striking the fighter.
Who is telling the truth? I dont know (dont care*) but get off the high horse and try and be objective, 'officials' from China and US are acting bold, intolerant and stupid. The public will never *really* know what happened - we will just stick to whichever dogma we are pre-disposed to believe.
That is what makes Katz's article true; nation states and this fierce nationalistic dogma is absurd. And you have demonstrated it nicely.
The whole incident should never have happened - why the hell the Chinese and Yankees growling at one another? Who the hell gives them the mandate to waste resources, time and effort on acting like children - Ill tell you it isnt me, it isnt my mirror sitting in China now - its the Plutocrats, Warmongers and CEOs who seek keep us separated and always in conflict.
If you ask me, i think both sides are acting terribly - where is the connection to reality? Instead we get this bullshit pageant played out for jingoists the world over. Im tired of it - when the hell are we going to grow up/wake up and remove these idiots from office? What are the 'goals' of these people if this is the kind of way they act after an accident? Why wont the *f*ing media be responsible and present the issues in an effort to educate, inform and facilitate understanding and communication versus the "Our International Power (Dick) is Bigger than Yours" bullshit? This whole mess disgusts me.
* I do care that someone has had to die in this pointless cockup. Maybe we should resolve to 'protect ourselves' by not playing 'asshole of the monent' with high priced armaments... just an idea. crazy isnt it: lets dissolve all nationally controlled military forces and fund a UN Peacekeeping force instead. It would end conflicts regardless of who/how it serves specific interests. Because 'this' hasnt been done simply illustrates the true purpose of the military. This idea ought to get the Freeper types all in a tizzy, because they are the shitheads who lap up all this national posturing bullshit - and actually believe that the US military is meant to 'keep peace', its really meant to be the muscle behind the Plutocrats who run the country, and prop up their imperialism.
What if you build a critical system for, say, a nuclear power plant. It works and works well, but you don't know how to explain it. Can you implement it? Can you rely on it?
No. Because a state may exist in future that has not been tested. This 'unexplained' circuit may fail when it encounters this state - there is no way to identify it (maybe). Unless you can gaurantee that the circuit has seen all states/conditions and you are capable of proving a desired result in every instance - in this example that would be a 'not-meltdown';) - then you cannot with certainty implement this solution.
It was moot because MS had an infinate amount of money and kept undercutting their business with giveaways (I guess communism is sometimes good)
Please explain what that has to do with Communism? PS: Your McCarthy funded "Education on Communism" will not shine here... what do you know about *Communism* proper; and why do you choose to insult the ideals of Communists when you obviously have a SitCom-PopCulture understanding (read: know nothing) about it?
I don't think this will be exploited too much -- after all there isn't any monetary benefit from it.
most hackers/crackers dont do it for 'monetary benefit' - they do it for fun. dont believe the hacker/cracker as terrorist tripe the Plutocrats want to sell you so they can squeeze the internet/techs to the bullshit party line.
I hope that by 2003, all the.com bombs, M$ court rulings, and continuing network security debacles will refresh our short memories on why we should just get out of this ratrace and get a real job growing food, healing the sick and treading lightly on the planet. *sigh* I'm sick of it all...
Great idea - I couldnt agree more. Tough in a world run by Corporate SlaveMasters who have replaced our governments with Lobby groups and have morphed communities into markets, citizens into consumers. There has been a destruction of relevant/real priorities. We need to take control of the powerful corporate agenda and realign it with a Community Agenda with the goals being better lives for everyone - not more ratrace/enslavment to Corporatists and Plutocrats. We need to take control of the destiny of this planet, selfish, greedy, myopic, paranoid and untrustworthy Corporate Boards ARE NOT concerned with anything but their own pocket books and stock prices. Dont be confused about how to make the world a 'better place' - it is not going to come from the Capitalists.
Read.sig! Come on down, the world needs real leaders and your invited to join a movement to a sustainable, healthy and content future vs. the desolation and bleakness that were forced to endure now!
Businesses exist to make money, not change society. Those ventures that forget this are soon dispatched.
Very wisely put. Dont like where the Capitalists are leading us? Environmental Destruction, Slave Relationships with your 'employer', souless/sensless market decisions, monopoly and stagnant technology, consumerism, Marketroids replacing culture/art with Mental McNuggets - how do you like your Democracy being replaced by a Plutocracy?
I would invite everyone to participate in this years biggest "Change Society" rally. Quebec City. Weekend after this. Come to Quebec City (dress warmly for the evenings) and you will be cared for by the community there - Just Come!
Businesses exist to make money, not change society. Those ventures that forget this are soon dispatched.
Very wisely put. Dont like where the Capitalists are leading us? Environmental Destruction, Slave Relationships with your 'employer', souless/sensless market decisions, monopoly and stagnant technology, consumerism, Marketroids replacing culture/art with Mental McNuggets - how do you like your Democracy being replaced by a Plutocracy?
I would invite everyone to participate in this years biggest "Change Society" rally. Quebec City. Weekend after this. Come to Quebec City (dress warmly for the evenings) and you will be cared for by the community there - Just Come!
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Someone mod this flamebait as such. The rest of the world is very nearly Socialist and you think Liberalism is dead? Get a clue, it may appear this way in the USA because USians have abandoned their democracy to be ruled by the Corporate Elite; and they like it! The rest of the world hasnt - and dont like the idea at all.
Only money will get the Linux PDA's out there - Wrong.
what a sad commentary on the developed world - self obsessed and vain. I stopped caring about my personal appearance 'round the same time I hit puberty; if you use clothes/hair/makeup (whatever) to express yourself, you havnt got much to say.
Better the pride that resides in a Citizen of the world, than the pride that devides when a colourful rag is unfurled
:) that is very inspired.
Thank you
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While I think Science for Science's Sake is a very worthwhile endeavour as it always adds to our understanding of the universe, this story makes me sick.
I cant say anything more than "Why the fuck would anyone/country want/need/desire/imagine/devise/whatever a scenario to kill 10million people by dropping a fucking asteroid on them". The same logic that wants to put up ICBM missle defense grids are the same that want to spy on China are the same who want to extort apologies are the same that want to kill palestinians are the same that want to sign the FTAA are the same that want fund studies to divert asteroids into the planet - who the fuck are these people and who put them in charge?
+1, Insightfull? How about -5, McCarthy Inspired Anti-Commie Dogma. Sheesh, you cant be for real.
P-A-R-A-N-O-I-A
fatfingered it - sheesh :)
It also creates strange bedfellows: Apple and Microsoft on one side
Not strange bedfellows at all. M$ kept Apple alive by porting software and investing. They work in concert with one another.
Whats worse is that sony loves iee1384, this is a certain sign of its direction.
#1 Reason:
Firewire has Oppressive Copy Control built in.
USB 2.0 does not
No further analysis or insight necessary. Welcome to the future friends.
my sister is a patent examiner at the Patent and Trademark Office
/. ask questions like "are they really instructing you to approve everything and let the courts settle it?"; "what searches actually take place for prior art" and such - so we can get some unrestrained, un-editied, DIRECT contact with a person 'on the inside'.
You should submit a article request to slashdot as "Ask a Random Anonymous Patent Examiner" and let
Now, i dont know how the USPTO organizes its staff (she may work in a completely different 'field' than tech)... but it would be interesting... maybe she knows someone who DOES examine technology patents.
the Linux OS woulda been, think of this: If linux was such a great gaming platform, then I'd expect to find quite a few games for it already.
They were also courting the OpenSource idea, and gratis software. no other console would will make gratis software available for dload - and no other invited 'ordinary' coders to make sw for their boxen. This is very unique. I kept imagining the great MP3 Players with superb(sp?) visuals connected to your TV, tiVo functionality and real libre games... Indrema has a good idea that will eventually make it to peoples homes.
no one would buy it, because they've never heard of it.
Its really ironic that 'consumers'* dont know how to make decisions outside of the marketing tripe they are fed. Its fucking making me sick - are people so stupid that they cannot analyze *REAL* items against one another except to weigh their Markatroid Interst(TM)?
Im not necessarily suggesting Indrema had the best product - but the argument that the 'market' wouldnt go for it because they didnt get the million-mega-buck marketroid campaign is really sad... how fucking disturbing. Dont people *RESEARCH* the comparable products available before makinhg a decision?
The *REST* of the planet is trying their damndest to get Madonna and McDonalds in their countries as fast as they can. The LEADERS in other countries have a ton of ideas about how the world should be run -- all of them bad. American doesn't want to rule the world, they just want to have a good time on Saturday night.
Which is better -- people who just want to have their Big Macs and Budweisers, or people who want to control the lives of every other person in the world for an idealized goal only definable by a handful of people?
Ill tell your friend, i have alot of capable and wise retorts for your arguments... but im too snapped on HoneyBrown & Keiths to bother. But your points above are very salient and interesting. Basically: I dont know. I dont propose to have the answers to all(most/some) of the answers, i believe i would like to be apart of the solution... whatever it may be. I have no problem suppporting "It".
If you have a good idea to provide for the happiness/welfare of *EVERYONE* im willing to die for it.... but lets get on with it, im tired of all this suffering. Im sad that others people are sick, hungry and angry. clal me an idealist but im really interested in peace, love and understanding. "No" im not kidding - dont you ever get upset about the futility and anger you have to deal with everyh day?
Not alot of Kubrick fans i see....
Sheesh - hard crowd.
Comp Sci. :)
I am getting really angered at the American peoples overriding desire to support everyone in the world. If you are so damn supportive of the Chinese you should move your butts over there and start working in thier factories. 14 hours a day for a few bowls of rice will teach you how bad you had it living in the terrible United States of American.
Make no mistake: Its like this in China *BECAUSE* you live so well in the states. Do you think people are lying when they tell you about how absurd American Consumer culture appears to the rest of the world? how about pollution - do you think its a lie that America is the main offender when it comes to the items the Kyoto Protocol is trying to address? Do you think the rest of the world feels you are imperialist warmongers - but we are *all* wrong about it?
Make no mistake friend, America is enjoying a good position in history at this moment, but they are by no means a testament to 'good decisions' or a model of a 'good culture'. Raping the planet, using your military to defend business interests, meddling in foreign affairs coupled with the good fortune of never having a war on your own soil - this soulnessness and ruthlessness is what put your culture at the top of the 'wealth' pile... nothing more. But I believe the latter cause would teach US citizens a great deal about where their priorities should be. You'd be surprised I bet about how adamant the citizens of the country would be about universal health care, social programs and environmental/social issues if their little 'pop culture utopia' were ever destroyed by a war on US soil. USian frivolity and hubris is beyond ridiculous approaching the surreal.
US of America would be well served to find some Tolerance, Understanding and Community - when you look at your culture's 'wealth' you may be surprised to find it is actually the most bankrupt in the things that matter. The rest of the world has some very different priorities than to slave to make a few people rich (as USians seem to do) - maybe this is why the rest of us dont have as many material good - ever think that you dont need all that crap to be happy?
The only problem is that USian greed has reached the point where they must infect the rest of the planet to continue to grow/exploit - and rest assured, the *REST* of the planet has *VERY* different ideas about how the world should be run... and many USians are even beginning to agree.
The US plane was in international airspace on autopilot, the Chinese fighter pilot got cocky and accidentally hit the US plane.
The China has said that the plane had entered their airspace - and the US plane suddenly changed course striking the fighter.
Who is telling the truth? I dont know (dont care*) but get off the high horse and try and be objective, 'officials' from China and US are acting bold, intolerant and stupid. The public will never *really* know what happened - we will just stick to whichever dogma we are pre-disposed to believe.
That is what makes Katz's article true; nation states and this fierce nationalistic dogma is absurd. And you have demonstrated it nicely.
The whole incident should never have happened - why the hell the Chinese and Yankees growling at one another? Who the hell gives them the mandate to waste resources, time and effort on acting like children - Ill tell you it isnt me, it isnt my mirror sitting in China now - its the Plutocrats, Warmongers and CEOs who seek keep us separated and always in conflict.
If you ask me, i think both sides are acting terribly - where is the connection to reality? Instead we get this bullshit pageant played out for jingoists the world over. Im tired of it - when the hell are we going to grow up/wake up and remove these idiots from office? What are the 'goals' of these people if this is the kind of way they act after an accident? Why wont the *f*ing media be responsible and present the issues in an effort to educate, inform and facilitate understanding and communication versus the "Our International Power (Dick) is Bigger than Yours" bullshit? This whole mess disgusts me.
* I do care that someone has had to die in this pointless cockup. Maybe we should resolve to 'protect ourselves' by not playing 'asshole of the monent' with high priced armaments... just an idea. crazy isnt it: lets dissolve all nationally controlled military forces and fund a UN Peacekeeping force instead. It would end conflicts regardless of who/how it serves specific interests. Because 'this' hasnt been done simply illustrates the true purpose of the military. This idea ought to get the Freeper types all in a tizzy, because they are the shitheads who lap up all this national posturing bullshit - and actually believe that the US military is meant to 'keep peace', its really meant to be the muscle behind the Plutocrats who run the country, and prop up their imperialism.
What if you build a critical system for, say, a nuclear power plant. It works and works well, but you don't know how to explain it. Can you implement it? Can you rely on it?
;) - then you cannot with certainty implement this solution.
No. Because a state may exist in future that has not been tested. This 'unexplained' circuit may fail when it encounters this state - there is no way to identify it (maybe). Unless you can gaurantee that the circuit has seen all states/conditions and you are capable of proving a desired result in every instance - in this example that would be a 'not-meltdown'
It was moot because MS had an infinate amount of money and kept undercutting their business with giveaways (I guess communism is sometimes good)
Please explain what that has to do with Communism? PS: Your McCarthy funded "Education on Communism" will not shine here... what do you know about *Communism* proper; and why do you choose to insult the ideals of Communists when you obviously have a SitCom-PopCulture understanding (read: know nothing) about it?
I don't think this will be exploited too much -- after all there isn't any monetary benefit from it.
most hackers/crackers dont do it for 'monetary benefit' - they do it for fun. dont believe the hacker/cracker as terrorist tripe the Plutocrats want to sell you so they can squeeze the internet/techs to the bullshit party line.
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I hope that by 2003, all the .com bombs, M$ court rulings, and continuing network security debacles will refresh our short memories on why we should just get out of this ratrace and get a real job growing food, healing the sick and treading lightly on the planet. *sigh* I'm sick of it all...
.sig! Come on down, the world needs real leaders and your invited to join a movement to a sustainable, healthy and content future vs. the desolation and bleakness that were forced to endure now!
Great idea - I couldnt agree more. Tough in a world run by Corporate SlaveMasters who have replaced our governments with Lobby groups and have morphed communities into markets, citizens into consumers. There has been a destruction of relevant/real priorities. We need to take control of the powerful corporate agenda and realign it with a Community Agenda with the goals being better lives for everyone - not more ratrace/enslavment to Corporatists and Plutocrats. We need to take control of the destiny of this planet, selfish, greedy, myopic, paranoid and untrustworthy Corporate Boards ARE NOT concerned with anything but their own pocket books and stock prices. Dont be confused about how to make the world a 'better place' - it is not going to come from the Capitalists.
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Businesses exist to make money, not change society. Those ventures that forget this are soon dispatched.
Very wisely put. Dont like where the Capitalists are leading us? Environmental Destruction, Slave Relationships with your 'employer', souless/sensless market decisions, monopoly and stagnant technology, consumerism, Marketroids replacing culture/art with Mental McNuggets - how do you like your Democracy being replaced by a Plutocracy?
I would invite everyone to participate in this years biggest "Change Society" rally. Quebec City. Weekend after this. Come to Quebec City (dress warmly for the evenings) and you will be cared for by the community there - Just Come!
Businesses exist to make money, not change society. Those ventures that forget this are soon dispatched.
Very wisely put. Dont like where the Capitalists are leading us? Environmental Destruction, Slave Relationships with your 'employer', souless/sensless market decisions, monopoly and stagnant technology, consumerism, Marketroids replacing culture/art with Mental McNuggets - how do you like your Democracy being replaced by a Plutocracy?
I would invite everyone to participate in this years biggest "Change Society" rally. Quebec City. Weekend after this. Come to Quebec City (dress warmly for the evenings) and you will be cared for by the community there - Just Come!