Fry: So then my chair tilted backwards and I almost fell into this freezer thingy. Hawking: I call it a "Hawking Chamber." Fry: Instead of falling in and getting frozen, I missed and wanged my head. Gore: Well it's obvious what should have happened. That wang to the head should have killed you. Fry: Uh what? Nichols: Let's finish the job. Gore: No wait! There must be a peaceful -
[Nichols pushes Fry over] Hawking: Hold him down. Deep Blue: Check.
[Hawking runs Fry over with his wheelchair] Fry: Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow!
Oh, it's just my opinion. While possibly on topic, the quote you posted is unfortunately an infectious meme. 'X' cannot be proven true or false, so it must be true. Believe in 'Y' and salvation is assured. I have an allergy to crap like that.
Really, all Operating System GUIs tend to suck? I beg to differ: Gnome, KDE, OS X, even Windows are pretty easy to use.
I realise you probably meant Open Source, but the acronym 'OS' is already taken. If you must use an acronym, use 'OSS' (open source software). This will make your statements a lot less ambiguous.
Does it also sadden you when Windows screws up your Linux bootsector? At least most Linux distros try to cooperate with other bootloaders which may be installed.
For FC2, it was a case of perhaps being a bit too anal about making the bootsector technically correct*, which broke Window's nonstandard usage of the bootsector.
I rarely find myself saying 'Damn, this rendering engine is slooow...', but of course it all depends upon the nature of the site being displayed.
I don't use IE for general browsing these days, but I do use it for cross browser testing. It does start fast, no argument. But after becoming accustomed to the speed at which Firefox renders specific pages, I generally find IE slower at rendering, and at least twice as slow at rendering DHTML. An exception is when the page uses CSS attributes that IE does not support, such as a fixed background on block-level elements. (example)
Highly prone to memory leaks? I can run Firefox all day long on my Win2k or Fedora 2 boxes at home, or my XP box at work, with nary a problem. If you're going to make assertations like that, you'd best be prepared to back it up with a link, at least.
It's a fairly well-known strategy to hype a product well before it's introduction in order to prevent a competitor from gaining ground. I don't think SP2 has been delayed at all, Microsoft's project planners would have to be completely incompetant to have delayed the patch for so long without a good reason. No, they want to string people along with the promise of a miracle cure-all for as long as possible.
Having trouble with popups? SP2 is coming soon! Need more security? SP2!! Want your computer to wash the dishes and feed the dog too? Good news, SP2!!
Oh, I agree. There should be a clearly defined mechanism whose purpose is only to fetch, install, and manage updates. A web browser shouldn't be integrated so deeply into the OS, simply due to the havoc that can be caused by security issues. That said, of all the ActiveX applets on the web, there's only one I'd install, and that's for Windows Update. In fact, that's the only purpose I'd recommend for IE. (that, and downloading a better browser)
Wow, that's pretty horrible. And their Javascript is ugly too. Invalid declarations, scripts downloaded from third-party sites, testing for either document.all or document.layers.. their web developer needs to be fired. Here's the offending VBScript:
Well, you're right that I probably wouldn't notice if a site contains VBScript since I rarely use IE outsite of cross-browser testing.
To rephrase my original statement: In my professional experience as a web developer, I've never worked on a site that contains client-side VBScript or been asked to write one. I do recall a MS demo page for the technology now that you mention it, but in actual usage VBScript is pretty pointless. Javascript/ECMAScript is a decent language, is an open standard, and is widely supported. VBScript is none of those things.:)
That Trend Micro thing is kind of neat. But I would really, really have to trust a web site to let it have what is effectively root-level access to my machine.
Yes, that's a good suggestion. It just didn't occur to me at the time, since I'm so used to tabs now. And "new window" people are so used to that paradigm, that I really can't fault them for automatically closing windows when they're done using them.. just a funny little anecdote.:)
Twice now, I've made the mistake of letting IE users check out a web site on my computer. Both times, I had Mozilla running with about 6 tabs loaded, so I opened another tab for them to use.
They load up their web site, read it for about 5 minutes then close the browser.. then wonder why I'm upset that they closed the application. I was still using that damnitt!!
I have Firefox 0.9.1 and IE 6.0 installed on my work computer (2.6 GHz P4, 760 MB RAM, XP SP1). Firefox renders pages much faster, especially pages with dynamic content.
This should be under Pros, ActiveX is good for one purpose -- Windows Update. And I've never even heard of an real web site that used VBScript. Shall we detract points for not supporting every asinine scripting language ever invented?
I found that part of the article confusing.. first they stated that no compiling would be done, they they talk about "kernel hacking" to run some of the games. How do you hack a kernel without compiling? It would be nice if they'd gave a little hint as to what they meant by that comment.
Fischer claimed it would bring the fun back into the game and rid it of cheats.
I hate those wankers with aimbots and wallhacking, chess is supposed to be a gentleman's sport for Pete's sake!
Applied Cryogenics, 2000
Fry: So then my chair tilted backwards and I almost fell into this freezer thingy.
Hawking: I call it a "Hawking Chamber."
Fry: Instead of falling in and getting frozen, I missed and wanged my head.
Gore: Well it's obvious what should have happened. That wang to the head should have killed you.
Fry: Uh what?
Nichols: Let's finish the job.
Gore: No wait! There must be a peaceful -
[Nichols pushes Fry over]
Hawking: Hold him down.
Deep Blue: Check.
[Hawking runs Fry over with his wheelchair]
Fry: Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow!
Armagetron is good too.
Oh, it's just my opinion. While possibly on topic, the quote you posted is unfortunately an infectious meme. 'X' cannot be proven true or false, so it must be true. Believe in 'Y' and salvation is assured. I have an allergy to crap like that.
Not a response to you really, just something I think of whenever someone drags this quote out:
The greatest trick the priesthood ever pulled, was convincing the world that the Devil exists.
the reason why OS GUIs tend to suck
Really, all Operating System GUIs tend to suck? I beg to differ: Gnome, KDE, OS X, even Windows are pretty easy to use.
I realise you probably meant Open Source, but the acronym 'OS' is already taken. If you must use an acronym, use 'OSS' (open source software). This will make your statements a lot less ambiguous.
2.42 Gigawatts?! Why, the only thing with that much power is three* bolts of lightning!
* due to inflation
I just leave 'em in the alley and they magically disappear overnight..
Does it also sadden you when Windows screws up your Linux bootsector? At least most Linux distros try to cooperate with other bootloaders which may be installed.
For FC2, it was a case of perhaps being a bit too anal about making the bootsector technically correct*, which broke Window's nonstandard usage of the bootsector.
* Which is the best kind of correct.
Suprised to see FC3 Test1 so soon.
No kidding, I'm just now getting my FC2 install properly broken in. I'll probably wait for FC4 to upgrade..
Well, that's an interesting theory. Can you back it up?
1 - Win 3.11 on 3.5" disks
2 - Win98 Upgrade CDROM
3 - Compaq Laptop had a Win NT license sticker when I bought it used
Many sites, like Slashdot, are running through a windows server.
Wrong
I rarely find myself saying 'Damn, this rendering engine is slooow...', but of course it all depends upon the nature of the site being displayed.
I don't use IE for general browsing these days, but I do use it for cross browser testing. It does start fast, no argument. But after becoming accustomed to the speed at which Firefox renders specific pages, I generally find IE slower at rendering, and at least twice as slow at rendering DHTML. An exception is when the page uses CSS attributes that IE does not support, such as a fixed background on block-level elements. (example)
Anna Begins - Counting Crows. Great song.
Indeed, indeed :)
Highly prone to memory leaks? I can run Firefox all day long on my Win2k or Fedora 2 boxes at home, or my XP box at work, with nary a problem. If you're going to make assertations like that, you'd best be prepared to back it up with a link, at least.
It's a fairly well-known strategy to hype a product well before it's introduction in order to prevent a competitor from gaining ground. I don't think SP2 has been delayed at all, Microsoft's project planners would have to be completely incompetant to have delayed the patch for so long without a good reason. No, they want to string people along with the promise of a miracle cure-all for as long as possible.
Having trouble with popups? SP2 is coming soon! Need more security? SP2!! Want your computer to wash the dishes and feed the dog too? Good news, SP2!!
Oh, I agree. There should be a clearly defined mechanism whose purpose is only to fetch, install, and manage updates. A web browser shouldn't be integrated so deeply into the OS, simply due to the havoc that can be caused by security issues. That said, of all the ActiveX applets on the web, there's only one I'd install, and that's for Windows Update. In fact, that's the only purpose I'd recommend for IE. (that, and downloading a better browser)
<Script Language="VBScript">
Gee, there's just no other way they could have done that, now is there?location.assign "../../WebFW/LTN-527T/52T5S0B.zip"
</Script>
Well, you're right that I probably wouldn't notice if a site contains VBScript since I rarely use IE outsite of cross-browser testing.
To rephrase my original statement: In my professional experience as a web developer, I've never worked on a site that contains client-side VBScript or been asked to write one. I do recall a MS demo page for the technology now that you mention it, but in actual usage VBScript is pretty pointless. Javascript/ECMAScript is a decent language, is an open standard, and is widely supported. VBScript is none of those things. :)
That Trend Micro thing is kind of neat. But I would really, really have to trust a web site to let it have what is effectively root-level access to my machine.
Yes, that's a good suggestion. It just didn't occur to me at the time, since I'm so used to tabs now. And "new window" people are so used to that paradigm, that I really can't fault them for automatically closing windows when they're done using them.. just a funny little anecdote. :)
Twice now, I've made the mistake of letting IE users check out a web site on my computer. Both times, I had Mozilla running with about 6 tabs loaded, so I opened another tab for them to use.
They load up their web site, read it for about 5 minutes then close the browser.. then wonder why I'm upset that they closed the application. I was still using that damnitt!!
I have Firefox 0.9.1 and IE 6.0 installed on my work computer (2.6 GHz P4, 760 MB RAM, XP SP1). Firefox renders pages much faster, especially pages with dynamic content.
Here's a funny snippet of their Firefox review:
Con: Will not load ActiveX and VBScript
This should be under Pros, ActiveX is good for one purpose -- Windows Update. And I've never even heard of an real web site that used VBScript. Shall we detract points for not supporting every asinine scripting language ever invented?
I found that part of the article confusing.. first they stated that no compiling would be done, they they talk about "kernel hacking" to run some of the games. How do you hack a kernel without compiling? It would be nice if they'd gave a little hint as to what they meant by that comment.