With all the Cameras going up in the world to look in on the general population, why should the governments feel left out?
I mean, if having cameras on the general population helps to curb crime, then imagine the crime reduction we can all experience from making the government internals public broadcast.
"There will be support for programmers who want to write their own Pogo programs using the API known as Boing, with a Flash-based Software Developer's Kit."
It's clear this is a proprietary subscription oriented device.
So until someone identifies the OS as other than this AmigaDE/Taos intent thing.....
Well for whatever it's worth, I did have to talk to everyone up the ladder, where the last person told me to go talk to a teacher currently teaching C. If it was ok by him, they'd let me in.
The thing was, I didn't want to take a few years worth of different programming courses just so that I could eventually take the C programming courses. Though I did agree to take introduction to computer/BASIC for a general introduction to programming. Hey it was better than a couple years...
Anyway the teacher was quick to sign, saying that even he didn't understand why they would require the couple years worth of other programming languages, before going to C. Though I have other teachers, it worked out that he was the teacher of the last C class I took there. And though I wasn't taking enough classes at that time to make dean list a third time, I still made a 4.0 adverage and was probably the best of that class.
All the teachers at Dekalb Tech are also currently working in teh field of which they are teaching.
Maybe if this Owen guy was a teacher and working in the field of Distributed computing....:)
Do I assume you have seen both my last journal entry here on slashdot and my home page?
Funny, but according to the three most popular religions, someone other than god is going to do it. I suspect it will be not one but the people and in the spirit of GPL.
Ok, so being that I actually went to this school to learn C programming (making deans list a couple times), perhaps I should lighten up on my perspective of the usefulness of the EFF.
Meaning this hits close to home for me. But the EFF is still a small organization and, like the ACLU, has little choice but to be very selective about taking on cases that are inherently helpful to promoting the EFF and their fund raising efforts.
But I Still Think and Believe that there are more fundamental issues in regards to the Electronic Frontier as it applies to our freedoms, that really should be and need to be addressed.
As the article seems to say, McOwen should never have been charged in the first place. This should be a good enough indication that there are more fundamental issues in need of addressing.
Increasing numbers and what caused those number to increase....
I recall years ago that due to all sorts of deal MS was doing, like with MSNBC, their stock value went up. MS of course turned it around and siad their products are so popular that their stock went up.
The fact is the newest version of there software them was having all sorts of problems and business were even being warned to not use it and wait for the bug fix version.
This distortion of fact is common place at MS. Even the recent inter office Memo to the AP wire service about cracking down on security holes was really nothing more than MS doing damage control and using the communication method of what was once identified as leaking internal memo. Where the fact of the matter is that murphys law prevails in that the more code that is used in a product the greater probability of bug and here, security breaches.
It's also becomming clearer and clearer that slashdot is being frequented by MS drones.
But I suppose it's a good idea to promote subscription services because that's an area that the GNU projects can easily beat.
These last couple days I've been doing alot of searching the web and book stores regarding autocoding. Seems I may just be in the top class of leading minds on the topic.
And to think, autocoding is only part of the solution potential I see in the way of a solution.
But the important thing here in this slashdot article thread is that fact that the GNU efforts really do have greater potential of creating a genuine and streamlined autocoding environment for the general user. Go ahead and use a pdf reader and read the york universaty article and consider how the GNU community doesn't have the commercial bias to throw autocoding off course.
Then read the other link I gave regarding a project that can allow autocoding.
And there is also my journal here that answers the Godel issue and more.
Programming is the act of creating automations of complexities that are made up of simpler things.
Does the programmer re-write open() every time they need to open a file?
There is not only nothing wrong with making it easier to build a custom kernel, but in fact there should be a growing interest in doing this sort of simplifying, given the GNU Hurd is about not only modularity but about servers/transltors and creating such, even custom as is needed.
This can be taken even further in that autocoding tools can be and should be built for the GNU users.
In a hundred years from now, how do you suppose programming will be done (given programming today is only about 50 years young)?
As things are being done today, it is not possible to do such a program of complexity as can be imagined of what would be a holodeck program (And we do have such virtual reality cudes today in university labs).
It won't be untill the general programming field realized the need to genuinely and honestly address and do the automation of the field of programming. Certainly everything else can be automated, including human balance and movement (segway).
It's fooling to continue the illusion that programming is not itself automatable. And to begin making it happen, where better than on higher level like autoconfiguration system that allow custom kernels to be done? (Or at least one place for it to begin)
A recent research paper on autocoding presents the current/recent mindset on autocoding. It's worth reading to see how young and admitedly immature the field is. Open system and Open Source Software such as the GNU efforts (Linux, the Hurd, etc..) with their open community has far better ability to do what needs to be done than any private effort which will be biased away from doing the things that need to be done.
Soooo, anything that automates computers and their use is inherently a good thing, for iot will allow us all to reach and achieve much more advanced systems and the benefits of.
"The US patent office can only search things in the library of congress or their library (i.e. stuff that is patent pending or has been patented (they discard the stuff they reject)). They can't do a google search for prior art since that would leak info to google."
The USPTO had an RFC regarding Prior Art searches a few years ago. Check out Written Comment #4 (chose it from the list - it's in a.doc file located on the USPTO site but you can use this comment #4 in html)
If there is an issue of which license to use, thenit should be such a license that in the public paid for state it is usable in both GPL
and proprietary manners. But the code sate as paid for by the public remains public in that state.
Should it be altered and the GPL applied to the altered state, then the altered state onward is under the GPL. But should it be altered under proprietary control, then that version/fork remains proprietary so long as the holder of the alterations wants it to be.
Public spending so to benefit both individuals and business, for both of these things are want makes up the society for which public money (taxes) is collected and used.
It really is a no brainer for anyone but those looking for a free ride.
It's a great way of establishing prior art or what will become prior art, in protecting something from such constraining IP grabs.
There is a growing list of people opposing Intellectual Property constraints like copyrights and patents.
Petition Against Software Patents (I'm signer 1552... look who the signer 1551 is!). Maybe you'd like to sign too?
What you will find is that there was alot of reason for 9/11 to have happen and even the education and seeding needed for it to happen.
A great deal of everything from motive to do, to education on how to do it was supplied by the US.
These are FACTS, not my opinion, follow the links and see how deep that rabbit hole really goes.
I seem to preceive the EFF as having become a political legal manipulation machine that can easily become out of touch with the individual human party of us all that they are claiming to represent.
The ACLU ignores any case that doesn't present them with some self promotion mechanism. In fact they dismiss even simple request for simple legal referal with their mass produced post card stating they are not currently interested in the case. (which has nothing to do with responding to a simple legal referal request)
I suspect the EFF is following such a direction.
Sorry, I really wish I was wrong about this but I don't think I am.
Concider "To high-tech pros and policy wonks, the EFF is well-known for its opposition to the regulation of encryption. Hollywood and the publishing industry know it as the loyal opposition in battles over digital copy law, which the EFF believes is so restrictive that it frustrates innovation."
LOYAL OPPOSITION??? does this mean the EFF would fumble the ball intentionally under the right conditions?
A flag with stars of company logos? Like Time Warner?
What's real on the Electronic Frontier?
How about the fact that computer are all about automaion. The automaion of complexity that is made up of simpler things, so as to make reuse or use again easier for the party use it?
The software industry can automate anything, includng human ability to balance and move (the Segway), but what's the deal with it' apparent inability to automate programing even in fundamental ways that the user can apply?
If the Electronic Frontier Fondation is really about our freedoms in the electronic frontier, then where is the hardware and software components, the modularity and ease of use and creation (putting things together, automating) for the users, the consumer to apply as they see fit or need?
Instead you have a flag with company logos for stars.
Need to see more? try my journal here on slashdot as well as my recent posts here, or my web pages..
Don't be fooled as to what freedom is in this electronic frontier, by those who present themselves as representing you. Instead make them represent you correctly.
Get to the causes, stop treating the symptoms that will never go away untill to get to the cause.
GNU and GPL is not about politics (law making) or economics (as in direct cash). It's about Getting Things DONE!
This is very important to understand the priority here. Taking care of "Getting Things DONE" means that the ripple effect (improving all other industries as a result of one industry - i.e. oil and how that effected all others - transportation..) actually CAN and then DOES happen in and from the computer industry.
Up untill GNU/Linux/GPL the industry was so damn duck butt tight on every thing it could find and put under constrained control, that this Ripple effect was prevented from happening. And even now it's only just beginning and will improve as the locks on software development methodologies are now becommng far more open to improvemnets, lock removal (programming is the act of automating complexity made up of simpler things, where even programming can be far better automated than what the proprietary gatekeepers [milk it, milk it, milk it] have been allowing).
It's all About Getting Things DONE. When you get things done the side effect is improved economy, and the constitution of the US already supports that, so the politics is already handled too.
Just Get things DONE! The symptoms indicated in economy and politics regarding the computer industry........
Well after all the milking that's gone on, ask yourself this question: GOT MILK? (ripple effect)
Then this question: How is GNU/Linux/GPL helping to generate and cause the long overdue ripple effect? (Got Chocolate Milk? Sweeeeeeet!)
If there is any laws to change, it the "cannot" based laws. They need to be changed to "can" based. As getting a patent or copyright does not somehow give the creator magical power to best make use of their creation. But being open for others to apply it, improve it, etc., certainly generates far more benefit for the population and society. As such it should also benefit the creator more too. Better to have a smaller piece of a huge pie than a large piece of a really small pie. Which one would you need more milk with?
By speeding up development the estimation of time it takes will be easier to get a grip on.
I don't claim to be a programming language creator, instead 3000+ languages in less than 50 or so years should be enough to figure out that the limitations of programming languages are not going to be solved by creating another one. But rather in making use of the various languages where they best fit, thru an action set that enable the creation of automation of language use.
What I have found odd about the Virtual Interaction Configuration as I've attempted to explain it to others over the years, is that there is an extreamly strong tendancy to preceive in it terms of their individual and specific mindset focus. i.e. if one is focused into prolog, they preceive it as a prolog function set, which causes problems in correctly understanding the actual general action set.
It's possible that communication of the VIC to Carl Sassenrath triggered off the creation of what is now called REBOL. And it's also very possible that SHEEP has as well gotten inspiration from the VIC.
If only this sort of majority control could be applied to Military financial resources we might could actually achieve preventitive warfare (like in preventitive healthcare.)
Certainly it is a minority (in comparision to the 6 billion plus of world population) who control such resources in a non productive manner.
Great! Now all those in prison (lack reason for having a drivers license) or have had their license taken away from them for driving crimes, and all the pre-driving age, and old and handicapped beyond drivable people are....
Slashdot Mirror
With all the Cameras going up in the world to look in on the general population, why should the governments feel left out?
I mean, if having cameras on the general population helps to curb crime, then imagine the crime reduction we can all experience from making the government internals public broadcast.
and think what we could do with the savings!
From the Review
link mentioned elsewhere:
"There will be support for programmers who want to write their own Pogo
programs using the API known as Boing, with a Flash-based Software
Developer's Kit."
It's clear this is a proprietary subscription oriented device.
So until someone identifies the OS as other than this AmigaDE/Taos intent
thing.....
Well for whatever it's worth, I did have to talk to everyone up the ladder, where the last person told me to go talk to a teacher currently teaching C. If it was ok by him, they'd let me in.
:)
The thing was, I didn't want to take a few years worth of different programming courses just so that I could eventually take the C programming courses. Though I did agree to take introduction to computer/BASIC for a general introduction to programming. Hey it was better than a couple years...
Anyway the teacher was quick to sign, saying that even he didn't understand why they would require the couple years worth of other programming languages, before going to C. Though I have other teachers, it worked out that he was the teacher of the last C class I took there. And though I wasn't taking enough classes at that time to make dean list a third time, I still made a 4.0 adverage and was probably the best of that class.
All the teachers at Dekalb Tech are also currently working in teh field of which they are teaching.
Maybe if this Owen guy was a teacher and working in the field of Distributed computing....
Do I assume you have seen both my last journal entry here on slashdot and my home page?
Funny, but according to the three most popular religions, someone other than god is going to do it.
I suspect it will be not one but the people and in the spirit of GPL.
We have the knowledge.
For the fun of it, maybe I should see if I can copy some of my own stuff (pictures - professional looking) at kinkos.
When they tell me no, I'll then Ask them if they have a release form I can sign for them. I bet they don't have one.
Ok, so being that I actually went to this school to learn C programming (making deans list a couple times), perhaps I should lighten up on my perspective of the usefulness of the EFF.
Meaning this hits close to home for me. But the EFF is still a small organization and, like the ACLU, has little choice but to be very selective about taking on cases that are inherently helpful to promoting the EFF and their fund raising efforts.
But I Still Think and Believe that there are more fundamental issues in regards to the Electronic Frontier as it applies to our freedoms, that really should be and need to be addressed.
As the article seems to say, McOwen should never have been charged in the first place. This should be a good enough indication that there are more fundamental issues in need of addressing.
In time they will, naturally. See my latest journal entry.
Does this mean Aunt Tillie gets to build her own kernel?
Damn, That was fast! Leave it to the GNU community!!!!
Increasing numbers and what caused those number to increase ....
I recall years ago that due to all sorts of deal MS was doing, like with MSNBC, their stock value went up.
MS of course turned it around and siad their products are so popular that their stock went up.
The fact is the newest version of there software them was having all sorts of problems and business were even
being warned to not use it and wait for the bug fix version.
This distortion of fact is common place at MS. Even the recent inter office Memo to the AP wire service about
cracking down on security holes was really nothing more than MS doing damage control and using the communication
method of what was once identified as leaking internal memo. Where the fact of the matter is that murphys law
prevails in that the more code that is used in a product the greater probability of bug and here, security breaches.
It's also becomming clearer and clearer that slashdot is being frequented by MS drones.
But I suppose it's a good idea to promote subscription services because that's an area that the GNU projects can easily
beat.
These last couple days I've been doing alot of searching the web and book stores regarding autocoding. Seems I may just be in the top class of leading minds on the topic.
And to think, autocoding is only part of the solution potential I see in the way of a solution.
But the important thing here in this slashdot article thread is that fact that the GNU efforts really do have greater potential of creating a genuine and streamlined autocoding environment for the general user. Go ahead and use a pdf reader and read the york universaty article and consider how the GNU community doesn't have the commercial bias to throw autocoding off course.
Then read the other link I gave regarding a project that can allow autocoding.
And there is also my journal here that answers the Godel issue and more.
As a side note/question:
I'm trying to figure out how to present a project for Linux and the Hurd that can be used for autocodng.
But I'm uncertain as to how to present it. Any thoughs, suggestions, etc?
Programming is the act of creating automations of complexities that are made up of simpler things.
Does the programmer re-write open() every time they need to open a file?
There is not only nothing wrong with making it easier to build a custom kernel, but in fact there should be a growing interest in doing this sort of simplifying, given the GNU Hurd is about not only modularity but about servers/transltors and creating such, even custom as is needed.
This can be taken even further in that autocoding tools can be and should be built for the GNU users.
In a hundred years from now, how do you suppose programming will be done (given programming today is only about 50 years young)?
As things are being done today, it is not possible to do such a program of complexity as can be imagined of what would be a holodeck program (And we do have such virtual reality cudes today in university labs).
It won't be untill the general programming field realized the need to genuinely and honestly address and do the automation of the field of programming. Certainly everything else can be automated, including human balance and movement (segway).
It's fooling to continue the illusion that programming is not itself automatable. And to begin making it happen, where better than on higher level like autoconfiguration system that allow custom kernels to be done? (Or at least one place for it to begin)
A recent research paper on autocoding presents the current/recent mindset on autocoding. It's worth reading to see how young and admitedly immature the field is. Open system and Open Source Software such as the GNU efforts (Linux, the Hurd, etc..) with their open community has far better ability to do what needs to be done than any private effort which will be biased away from doing the things that need to be done.
Soooo, anything that automates computers and their use is inherently a good thing, for iot will allow us all to reach and achieve much more advanced systems and the benefits of.
Found this Petition link on GNU site home page
IP laws need to be changed from "Cannot" Based, to "Can" based.
We have the technology to make it work.
"The US patent office can only search things in the library of congress or their library (i.e. stuff that is patent pending or has been patented (they discard the stuff they reject)). They can't do a google search for prior art since that would leak info to google."
.doc file located on the USPTO site but you can use this comment #4 in html)
The USPTO had an RFC regarding Prior Art searches a few years ago. Check out Written Comment #4 (chose it from the list - it's in a
The question is a real nobrainer to answer.
If there is an issue of which license to use, thenit should be such a license that in the public paid for state it is usable in both GPL
and proprietary manners. But the code sate as paid for by the public remains public in that state.
Should it be altered and the GPL applied to the altered state, then the altered state onward is under the GPL. But should it be altered under proprietary control, then that version/fork remains proprietary so long as the holder of the alterations wants it to be.
Public spending so to benefit both individuals and business, for both of these things are want makes up the society for which public money (taxes) is collected and used.
It really is a no brainer for anyone but those looking for a free ride.
Modular System links
Modular System links
Modular System links
It's a great way of establishing prior art or what will become prior art, in protecting something from such constraining IP grabs.
There is a growing list of people opposing Intellectual Property constraints like copyrights and patents.
Petition Against Software Patents (I'm signer 1552... look who the signer 1551 is!). Maybe you'd like to sign too?
For more fun on the value of distributed information and how it can be used to protect, see comment #4:
Issues Related to the Identification of Prior Art During the Examination of a Patent Application
or
for an html versions of comment #4
YES! Usenet is a useful tool because it distributes along with an unbiased date time stamp.
Using 9/11 as an excuse is like addressing the symptoms, not the cause.
access the links you find here And the links you find at those links.
What you will find is that there was alot of reason for 9/11 to have happen and even the education and seeding needed for it to happen.
A great deal of everything from motive to do, to education on how to do it was supplied by the US.
These are FACTS, not my opinion, follow the links and see how deep that rabbit hole really goes.
I seem to preceive the EFF as having become a political legal manipulation machine that can easily become out of touch with the individual human party of us all that they are claiming to represent.
The ACLU ignores any case that doesn't present them with some self promotion mechanism. In fact they dismiss even simple request for simple legal referal with their mass produced post card stating they are not currently interested in the case. (which has nothing to do with responding to a simple legal referal request)
I suspect the EFF is following such a direction.
Sorry, I really wish I was wrong about this but I don't think I am.
Concider "To high-tech pros and policy wonks, the EFF is well-known for its opposition to the regulation of encryption. Hollywood and the publishing industry know it as the loyal opposition in battles over digital copy law, which the EFF believes is so restrictive that it frustrates innovation."
LOYAL OPPOSITION??? does this mean the EFF would fumble the ball intentionally under the right conditions?
A flag with stars of company logos? Like Time Warner?
What's real on the Electronic Frontier?
How about the fact that computer are all about automaion. The automaion of complexity that is made up of simpler things, so as to make reuse or use again easier for the party use it?
The software industry can automate anything, includng human ability to balance and move (the Segway), but what's the deal with it' apparent inability to automate programing even in fundamental ways that the user can apply?
If the Electronic Frontier Fondation is really about our freedoms in the electronic frontier, then where is the hardware and software components, the modularity and ease of use and creation (putting things together, automating) for the users, the consumer to apply as they see fit or need?
Instead you have a flag with company logos for stars.
Need to see more? try my journal here on slashdot as well as my recent posts here, or my web pages..
Don't be fooled as to what freedom is in this electronic frontier, by those who present themselves as representing you. Instead make them represent you correctly.
Get to the causes, stop treating the symptoms that will never go away untill to get to the cause.
GNU and GPL is not about politics (law making) or economics (as in direct cash). It's about Getting Things DONE!
This is very important to understand the priority here. Taking care of "Getting Things DONE" means that the ripple effect (improving all other industries as a result of one industry - i.e. oil and how that effected all others - transportation..) actually CAN and then DOES happen in and from the computer industry.
Up untill GNU/Linux/GPL the industry was so damn duck butt tight on every thing it could find and put under constrained control, that this Ripple effect was prevented from happening. And even now it's only just beginning and will improve as the locks on software development methodologies are now becommng far more open to improvemnets, lock removal (programming is the act of automating complexity made up of simpler things, where even programming can be far better automated than what the proprietary gatekeepers [milk it, milk it, milk it] have been allowing).
It's all About Getting Things DONE. When you get things done the side effect is improved economy, and the constitution of the US already supports that, so the politics is already handled too.
Just Get things DONE! The symptoms indicated in economy and politics regarding the computer industry........
Well after all the milking that's gone on, ask yourself this question: GOT MILK? (ripple effect)
Then this question: How is GNU/Linux/GPL helping to generate and cause the long overdue ripple effect? (Got Chocolate Milk? Sweeeeeeet!)
If there is any laws to change, it the "cannot" based laws. They need to be changed to "can" based. As getting a patent or copyright does not somehow give the creator magical power to best make use of their creation. But being open for others to apply it, improve it, etc., certainly generates far more benefit for the population and society. As such it should also benefit the creator more too. Better to have a smaller piece of a huge pie than a large piece of a really small pie. Which one would you need more milk with?
By speeding up development the estimation of time it takes will be easier to get a grip on.
I don't claim to be a programming language creator, instead 3000+
languages in less than 50 or so years should be enough to figure out that
the limitations of programming languages are not going to be solved by
creating another one. But rather in making use of the various languages
where they best fit, thru an action set that enable the creation of
automation of language use.
Comments from the LL1 article
USPTO Article specific reference is here.
Three Primary User Interfaces
The need for speed and language barrier to break:"
What's beyond the language barrier:
What I have found odd about the Virtual Interaction Configuration as I've
attempted to explain it to others over the years, is that there is an
extreamly strong tendancy to preceive in it terms of their individual and
specific mindset focus. i.e. if one is focused into prolog, they preceive
it as a prolog function set, which causes problems in correctly
understanding the actual general action set.
It's possible that communication of the VIC to Carl Sassenrath triggered
off the creation of what is now called REBOL. And it's also very possible
that SHEEP has as well gotten inspiration from the VIC.
Noodle baking...
SHEEP article
Another SHEEP article
If only this sort of majority control could be applied to Military financial resources we might could actually achieve preventitive warfare (like in preventitive healthcare.)
Certainly it is a minority (in comparision to the 6 billion plus of world population) who control such resources in a non productive manner.
Whoa! Guess I forgot where I was, who I was amongst. Programmers, who better to change the meaning of words, as it's the skill of programming.
Maybe you all should take a break from defining functions and all.
i.e. The wierdo with the apartment directly beneath you likes to brew his own personal batches of nitro glycerine. Understandably, you're nervous.
That sounds very "threat of force" to me
Great! Now all those in prison (lack reason for having a drivers license) or have had their license taken away from them for driving crimes, and all the pre-driving age, and old and handicapped beyond drivable people are....