the analogies that others might post in this thread may not consider the possibility of doing it all different such that these problems either likley won't exist or they can't.
Want protection from internet problems? Don't connect to it.But even the International Space Station has had its computer problems.
One of the shortest, if not the shortest mention of the things mentioned in the artical, were these two tech jobs.
And consider that.net is a platform that many langauges can be use on and perhaps mixed to some degree..(as opposed to saying programmers of a specific language are in demand -- wasn't java once there?).... and the other position in demand being Quality assurance in software....
Do you suppose there is a relationship?
Like as in if you are going to put programmers of different languages on the.net platform and say . MS net developers are in demand..... well all things considered... don't you then need more QA's......trusted computing and all???
Seems like if there is a splitting of jobs for the output, the pay would be split too....
maybe thats a little off the edge.... but really if the.net platform is so great, wouldn't that make QA less needed?
What bothers me about all of this is that programming isn't getting much easier for the typical user, as it should be. Programming is the act of automating complexity so as to make that complexity easy to use and reuse byt he user of the complexity. And this is recursive.
But I suppose to distort this so to keep it out of the typical users hands enough, supporting the industry as some would say, requires complexication before it goes out....need another hand on the light bulb ladder? Hmmm, what happens whan I flip this switch while they are all changing the bulb? Trust me, if you want me to trust you.....
There was a time not so long ago that patents were considered to be far more widescope in claims than the more specific nature of copyright.
Here is an idea: Lets change the public perception of what is actually what and promote a claim to present a new form of IP protection...to last a short period of time....
Hey wait a minute....wasn't "IP rights for a short period of time" the original creation of the copyright and patent office....IP granting terms????
Hmmm, isn't it like the software industry to reinvent and market as "brand new" something actually old?????
Of course the process of such a "new/old" thing would follow the same evolution....getting longer and longer in terms and less specific.... Just like it has before...
A better direction is to simple revert to the way it originally was in term length. Of course until even that is to long in terms for ever increasing advancement rate.
There is always the nature of the subject matter as to whether or not it actually qualifies for copyrightable or patentability, if either.
What is software but that is of and follows the natural laws of human mentality and the logic of physics in its application of abstraction creation and use.
Of the things not patentable (by the words of the USPTO):
Natural Law Physical Phenomenon abstract ideas
these are the three top primary things not patentable.
Mathmatical algorythims fall into the secondary class of what is not patentable, due to being made up of the primary three.
it all begins here:
Physics of Abstraction (abstraction physics)
Abstraction enters the picture of computing with the representation of physical transistor switch positions of ON '1' and OFF '0' or what we call "Binary" notation. However, computers have far more transistor switches in them than we can keep up with in such a low level or first order abstract manner, so we create higher level abstractions in order to increase our productivity in programming computers. From Machine language to application interfaces that allow users to define some sequence of action into a word or button press (ie. record and playback macro) so to automate a task, we are working with abstractions that ultimately accesses the hardware transistor switches which in turn output to, or control some physical world hardware.
Programming is the act of automating some level of complexity, usually made up of simpler complexities, but done so in order to allow the user to use and reuse the complexity through a simplified interface. And this is a recursive act, building upon abstractions others have created that even our own created abstractions/automations might be used by another to further create more complex automations. In general, if we didn't build upon what those before us have done, we then would not advance at all, but rather be like any other mammal incapable of anything more than, at best, first level abstraction. But we are more, and as such have the natural human right and duty to advance in such a manner.
There is an identifiable and definable "physics of abstraction" (abstraction physics), an identification of what is required in order to make and use abstractions. Abstraction Physics is not exclusive to computing but constantly in use by... well... us humans. Elements or facets of abstraction physics include the actions of abstraction creation and use, such as defining a word to mean a more complex definition (word = definition, function-name = actions to take, etc.), Starting and Stopping (interfacing with) of an abstraction definition sequence, keeping track of where you are in the progress of abstraction sequence usage (moving from one abstraction to another), defining and changing "input from" direction, defining and changing "output to" direction, getting input to process (using variables or place holders to carry values), sequencially stepping thru abstraction/automation details (inherently includes optionally sending output), looking up t
make it a point to focus on the techniques used by the rebate middle party to avoid paying you.
Since the FTC and the likes seem to be so focused on the wrong information (which advertisers and manufactures are invilved) instead of the tactics being applied to increase the appearance of customer failure, the tactics are not being addressed of which the middle party is applying.
The crime is many, from mail fraud to bait and switch.
the middle party fullfillment companies are the ones applying these consmer deception.
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with the FTCs failuer to properly addressing this, rather then themselves looking for excuses. Maybe they need some help....who all might help? Your local congressmen??
of course "no conversion" should be the default -- as otherwise who the hell knows what they would be agreeing to in advance of the writting of a later version.
Only an idiot woudl do that and open source developers are not idiots.
If I were taking a class that I expected to make use of in my career and the teacher went off on an offtopic rant more than once or in such a way that it distracts from teh lessons at hand, I'd politely ask him/her to get back to what I'm paying for.
as any student serious about such a class, should do.
Abstraction enters the picture of computing with the representation of physical transistor switch positions of ON '1' and OFF '0' or what we call "Binary" notation. However, computers have far more transistor switches in them than we can keep up with in such a low level or first order abstract manner, so we create higher level abstractions in order to increase our productivity in programming computers. From Machine language to application interfaces that allow users to define some sequence of action into a word or button press (ie. record and playback macro) so to automate a task, we are working with abstractions that ultimately accesses the hardware transistor switches which in turn output to, or control some physical world hardware.
Programming is the act of automating some level of complexity, usually made up of simpler complexities, but done so in order to allow the user to use and reuse the complexity through a simplified interface. And this is a recursive act, building upon abstractions others have created that even our own created abstractions/automations might be used by another to further create more complex automations. In general, if we didn't build upon what those before us have done, we then would not advance at all, but rather be like any other mammal incapable of anything more than, at best, first level abstraction. But we are more, and as such have the natural human right and duty to advance in such a manner.
There is an identifiable and definable "physics of abstraction" (abstraction physics), an identification of what is required in order to make and use abstractions. Abstraction Physics is not exclusive to computing but constantly in use by... well... us humans. Elements or facets of abstraction physics include the actions of abstraction creation and use, such as defining a word to mean a more complex definition (word = definition, function-name = actions to take, etc.), Starting and Stopping (interfacing with) of an abstraction definition sequence, keeping track of where you are in the progress of abstraction sequence usage (moving from one abstraction to another), defining and changing "input from" direction, defining and changing "output to" direction, getting input to process (using variables or place holders to carry values), sequencially stepping thru abstraction/automation details (inherently includes optionally sending output), looking up the meaning of a word or symbol (abstraction) so to act upon or with it, identifing an abstraction or real item value so to act upon it, and putting constraints upon your abstraction lookups and identifications (when you look up a word in a dictionary you don't start at the beginning of the dictionary, but begin with the section that starts with the first letter then followed by the second, etc., and when you open a box with many items to stock, you identify each so as to know where to put it in stock.)
Abstraction Physics has yet to be established/recognized in a broad "common acceptance" manner, similiar to the difficulty in the acceptance of the hindu-arabic decimal system (which included the concept that nothing can have value - re: the Zero place holder). It took three hundred years (from inception) for the innovation of the now common decimal system to overcome the far more limited Roman Numeral system. (NOTE: mathmatics and the symbol sets used are also abstractions and therefor a subset of abstraction possibilities and certainly an application of abstraction physics.) Though the act of programming is still younger than many who apply it, we are technologically moving at a much faster rate of incorporating innovations and better understandings of reality. There is a physics to abstraction creation and use which can be used
Solving it is along the lines of replacing the roman numeral system with teh decimal system.
Its not until the advantages of the decimal system are undeniable that the roman numeral system of mathmatics is stored away for good. that took 300 years
Or like the obvservable fact of the earth revolving around the sun put away the earth being center of the universe..though it took until 1992 before the catholic curch accepted it by exornorated Galileo... that took 350 years..
Solving or putting away the software patent issue is to prove that software is not, by its essence, patentable.
both side of the software industry don't want to do that, as it would have teh same effect on the elite profession of programming as the decimal system had on the elite social position of the roman numeral accountants or the god center of the universe being the church and its position over the people (like government is today and business seems to be becomming)...
It really is quite amazing what hypocracies some people impose upon the honest.
Walker??? It always reminds me of taking a dog for a walk or something old people use. There is not much modularity in it except for teh insinuation of the name...
try this instead, and instead of the article topic too.... I mean, what will some digital DRM media look like when it gets shrunk down and flatten out? A CD/DVD??? So what are they really saying? That they want to sell you a harddrive with every movie??? And lets not for get about whether or not you can take it with you when you visit you friends.
Granted they following is from the year 1997.... but the concept is far more valid than what the article is about. And if you want to forget Amiga, then replace its name with LINUX (my main OS's at home today)....shrug... its about hardware....
The Amiga seems to be the computer that fits into all the
cracks, gaps and holes in reguard to the computer industry. As such it
is difficult to fill the wants and needs of so many when it comes to
packaging. It does seem that one thing everyone wants is
expandability.
I believe there is a workable solutions that most will find
satisfactory and perhaps as a pleasent suprise. The concept is to
produce the Amiga into parts or blocks that may be attached and even
re-configured to fit the packaging needs of many. Such configuring
abilities certainly would increase the versatility of the system as
well as allow users to expand their system as they see fit.
I think from the manufacturing and service perspective, cost
would be reduced as a result of dealing with standard packaging blocks.
Electronically, the Amiga seems to have it's Amiga primary board, an
ability add/enable board and a CPU board. The Amiga primary board would
be standard in all Amigas where the ability add/enable board is used to
add or make available additional features of the Amiga. The CPU board
of course may also contain ram expansion and scsi or IDE interface. The
variables here would be the ability add/enable board and the CPU board
and this will allow price differences with the Amiga block.
The blocks attach to each other through a slot that is
accessable from both the top and bottom of the right side of the
block (see dark gray slot panel cover on the units top right side,
back-side top for the lap-top and hidden in the set top base.) There
is a "T" pass-thru card the internal boards plug into, which has a card
edge connector on it's top and bottom edge. The blocks are connected
using what would be a double sided card edge connector. Securing the
blocks together is done by removing the light blue rubber molding,
behind which is the securing screws. This rubber molding also functions
as the feet so the tower/stacked system, or even the desk-top may be
layed/sat on it's side (preferably on the right side, due mounting
direction of the cards that internally plug into the T pass-thru card.)
The systems in the image:
Lap-Top - Though not a slim unit but more like a small brief-case,
uses the standard Amiga Block (bottom), Floppy-plus block (may contain
up to two hard-drives), Key-board (full size standard), LCD panel (near
the size of a 13" monitor.) The block on the lower far end is the
battery pack and external port pass-thru. Additionally the LCD pane
I had no issues in 2005 with my system at work, using AVG.
This year we are using Semantic and daily I run other programs to remove the spyware and virus'es that get through semantic. And daily I remove spyware that is taged as possible virus by adaware.
I do this when I notice my system getting clunky and always when I do a windows update (as there is always spyware added to any MS update, especially security updates)
So who is the "security" really for? Obviously its not for me or the company I world for.
MS anti-spyware software doesn't work.... It had over a month to find and remove a bunch of spyware... then I ran adaware.... it found spyware several years old... This is not new and improved spyware needing a new datatbase..... but old stuff...
Who is this MS anti-spyware working for? It certainly doesn't catch the spyware MS updates installs.
Moral of the story: Consider the motivating factors of any company offering such software. Consider them strongly, and do NOT assume "they wouldn't do that", but test them for doing it if you accept their offer.
Damn'it my access to the internet OS comes up as Jan. 1 1980....
... we know where they go.... polticians, war mongers, power mongers, criminals, Bush, etc...
Now we know why Bush is pro religion/fait and so anti-science....
A new twist to shrodingers cat.... huh?
war on terrorism..... to be changed to inocculation against toxoplasma
But whats the association between cats and people? does half the population have cats?
Is this why there is a warning regarding pregant women and cat feces in the home?
computer industry....software...
the analogies that others might post in this thread may not consider the possibility of doing it all different such that these problems either likley won't exist or they can't.
Want protection from internet problems? Don't connect to it.But even the International Space Station has had its computer problems.
Life support and computers......hmmmmm....
... as a quality of adaptability to it.
If you don't use it, you lose it. But if you do use it, then you get better at it.
What is it? Whjat ever it is that you focus on and apply, mentally....
to spread confusion and to try and manipulate that confusion to their advantage.
So they found Iraq-us?
take a florcent light bulb and put it up against the antenni and key the mic.... light up the bulb/tube.
I'd imagine there should be something like this that works for cel phones for a better demo...
Now I know why those on cell phones tend to drive slower and do stupid thing....their brain is being cooked...
here is the real purpose:
/ 04/1422255&threshold=0
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/0 4/0630206&threshold=0
those green glowing footballs.
One of the shortest, if not the shortest mention of the things mentioned in the artical, were these two tech jobs.
.net is a platform that many langauges can be use on and perhaps mixed to some degree..(as opposed to saying programmers of a specific language are in demand -- wasn't java once there?).... and the other position in demand being Quality assurance in software....
.net platform and say . MS net developers are in demand..... well all things considered... don't you then need more QA's......trusted computing and all???
.net platform is so great, wouldn't that make QA less needed?
And consider that
Do you suppose there is a relationship?
Like as in if you are going to put programmers of different languages on the
Seems like if there is a splitting of jobs for the output, the pay would be split too....
maybe thats a little off the edge.... but really if the
What bothers me about all of this is that programming isn't getting much easier for the typical user, as it should be.
Programming is the act of automating complexity so as to make that complexity easy to use and reuse byt he user of the complexity. And this is recursive.
But I suppose to distort this so to keep it out of the typical users hands enough, supporting the industry as some would say, requires complexication before it goes out....need another hand on the light bulb ladder? Hmmm, what happens whan I flip this switch while they are all changing the bulb? Trust me, if you want me to trust you.....
.....do a google for "System Mechanic Pro"
There was a time not so long ago that patents were considered to be far more widescope in claims than the more specific nature of copyright.
... well... us humans. Elements or facets of abstraction physics include the actions of abstraction creation and use, such as defining a word to mean a more complex definition (word = definition, function-name = actions to take, etc.), Starting and Stopping (interfacing with) of an abstraction definition sequence, keeping track of where you are in the progress of abstraction sequence usage (moving from one abstraction to another), defining and changing "input from" direction, defining and changing "output to" direction, getting input to process (using variables or place holders to carry values), sequencially stepping thru abstraction/automation details (inherently includes optionally sending output), looking up t
Here is an idea: Lets change the public perception of what is actually what and promote a claim to present a new form of IP protection...to last a short period of time....
Hey wait a minute....wasn't "IP rights for a short period of time" the original creation of the copyright and patent office....IP granting terms????
Hmmm, isn't it like the software industry to reinvent and market as "brand new" something actually old?????
Of course the process of such a "new/old" thing would follow the same evolution....getting longer and longer in terms and less specific.... Just like it has before...
A better direction is to simple revert to the way it originally was in term length. Of course until even that is to long in terms for ever increasing advancement rate.
There is always the nature of the subject matter as to whether or not it actually qualifies for copyrightable or patentability, if either.
What is software but that is of and follows the natural laws of human mentality and the logic of physics in its application of abstraction creation and use.
Of the things not patentable (by the words of the USPTO):
Natural Law
Physical Phenomenon
abstract ideas
these are the three top primary things not patentable.
Mathmatical algorythims fall into the secondary class of what is not patentable, due to being made up of the primary three.
it all begins here:
Physics of Abstraction (abstraction physics)
Abstraction enters the picture of computing with the representation of physical transistor switch positions of ON '1' and OFF '0' or what we call "Binary" notation. However, computers have far more transistor switches in them than we can keep up with in such a low level or first order abstract manner, so we create higher level abstractions in order to increase our productivity in programming computers. From Machine language to application interfaces that allow users to define some sequence of action into a word or button press (ie. record and playback macro) so to automate a task, we are working with abstractions that ultimately accesses the hardware transistor switches which in turn output to, or control some physical world hardware.
Programming is the act of automating some level of complexity, usually made up of simpler complexities, but done so in order to allow the user to use and reuse the complexity through a simplified interface. And this is a recursive act, building upon abstractions others have created that even our own created abstractions/automations might be used by another to further create more complex automations. In general, if we didn't build upon what those before us have done, we then would not advance at all, but rather be like any other mammal incapable of anything more than, at best, first level abstraction. But we are more, and as such have the natural human right and duty to advance in such a manner.
There is an identifiable and definable "physics of abstraction" (abstraction physics), an identification of what is required in order to make and use abstractions. Abstraction Physics is not exclusive to computing but constantly in use by
report problems to the FTC.
make it a point to focus on the techniques used by the rebate middle party to avoid paying you.
Since the FTC and the likes seem to be so focused on the wrong information (which advertisers and manufactures are invilved) instead of the tactics being applied to increase the appearance of customer failure, the tactics are not being addressed of which the middle party is applying.
The crime is many, from mail fraud to bait and switch.
the middle party fullfillment companies are the ones applying these consmer deception.
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with the FTCs failuer to properly addressing this, rather then themselves looking for excuses. Maybe they need some help....who all might help? Your local congressmen??
Thieft by deception is criminally wrong.
...butt plug can stop..
a matter of the human factor and murphys laws...
.. microsoft will show up on the list of companies installing spyware?
of course "no conversion" should be the default -- as otherwise who the hell knows what they would be agreeing to in advance of the writting of a later version.
Only an idiot woudl do that and open source developers are not idiots.
http://unixguru.com/
go ahead and check it out.
If I were taking a class that I expected to make use of in my career and the teacher went off on an offtopic rant more than once or in such a way that it distracts from teh lessons at hand, I'd politely ask him/her to get back to what I'm paying for.
as any student serious about such a class, should do.
This is not that. Plain and simple.
It is provable that by softwares very nature, it is not a matter of patentability. Only by ignorance and intentional deception is it granted patents.
... well... us humans. Elements or facets of abstraction physics include the actions of abstraction creation and use, such as defining a word to mean a more complex definition (word = definition, function-name = actions to take, etc.), Starting and Stopping (interfacing with) of an abstraction definition sequence, keeping track of where you are in the progress of abstraction sequence usage (moving from one abstraction to another), defining and changing "input from" direction, defining and changing "output to" direction, getting input to process (using variables or place holders to carry values), sequencially stepping thru abstraction/automation details (inherently includes optionally sending output), looking up the meaning of a word or symbol (abstraction) so to act upon or with it, identifing an abstraction or real item value so to act upon it, and putting constraints upon your abstraction lookups and identifications (when you look up a word in a dictionary you don't start at the beginning of the dictionary, but begin with the section that starts with the first letter then followed by the second, etc., and when you open a box with many items to stock, you identify each so as to know where to put it in stock.)
from http://wiki.ffii.de/IstTamaiEn
Physics of Abstraction (abstraction physics)
Abstraction enters the picture of computing with the representation of physical transistor switch positions of ON '1' and OFF '0' or what we call "Binary" notation. However, computers have far more transistor switches in them than we can keep up with in such a low level or first order abstract manner, so we create higher level abstractions in order to increase our productivity in programming computers. From Machine language to application interfaces that allow users to define some sequence of action into a word or button press (ie. record and playback macro) so to automate a task, we are working with abstractions that ultimately accesses the hardware transistor switches which in turn output to, or control some physical world hardware.
Programming is the act of automating some level of complexity, usually made up of simpler complexities, but done so in order to allow the user to use and reuse the complexity through a simplified interface. And this is a recursive act, building upon abstractions others have created that even our own created abstractions/automations might be used by another to further create more complex automations. In general, if we didn't build upon what those before us have done, we then would not advance at all, but rather be like any other mammal incapable of anything more than, at best, first level abstraction. But we are more, and as such have the natural human right and duty to advance in such a manner.
There is an identifiable and definable "physics of abstraction" (abstraction physics), an identification of what is required in order to make and use abstractions. Abstraction Physics is not exclusive to computing but constantly in use by
Abstraction Physics has yet to be established/recognized in a broad "common acceptance" manner, similiar to the difficulty in the acceptance of the hindu-arabic decimal system (which included the concept that nothing can have value - re: the Zero place holder). It took three hundred years (from inception) for the innovation of the now common decimal system to overcome the far more limited Roman Numeral system. (NOTE: mathmatics and the symbol sets used are also abstractions and therefor a subset of abstraction possibilities and certainly an application of abstraction physics.) Though the act of programming is still younger than many who apply it, we are technologically moving at a much faster rate of incorporating innovations and better understandings of reality. There is a physics to abstraction creation and use which can be used
Solving it is along the lines of replacing the roman numeral system with teh decimal system.
Its not until the advantages of the decimal system are undeniable that the roman numeral system of mathmatics is stored away for good. that took 300 years
Or like the obvservable fact of the earth revolving around the sun put away the earth being center of the universe..though it took until 1992 before the catholic curch accepted it by exornorated Galileo... that took 350 years..
Solving or putting away the software patent issue is to prove that software is not, by its essence, patentable.
both side of the software industry don't want to do that, as it would have teh same effect on the elite profession of programming as the decimal system had on the elite social position of the roman numeral accountants or the god center of the universe being the church and its position over the people (like government is today and business seems to be becomming)...
It really is quite amazing what hypocracies some people impose upon the honest.
Do a fresh install of any windows os, then run adaware...
sure there is proof. proof that you can see for yourself...
try it, see it for yourself, Or continue to believe what you want.
Walker??? It always reminds me of taking a dog for a walk or something old people use.
There is not much modularity in it except for teh insinuation of the name...
try this instead, and instead of the article topic too.... I mean, what will some digital DRM media look like when it gets shrunk down and flatten out? A CD/DVD??? So what are they really saying? That they want to sell you a harddrive with every movie??? And lets not for get about whether or not you can take it with you when you visit you friends.
Granted they following is from the year 1997.... but the concept is far more valid than what the article is about. And if you want to forget Amiga, then replace its name with LINUX (my main OS's at home today)....shrug... its about hardware....
http://threeseas.net/mind/pics/ModularA.gif
The Amiga seems to be the computer that fits into all the
cracks, gaps and holes in reguard to the computer industry. As such it
is difficult to fill the wants and needs of so many when it comes to
packaging. It does seem that one thing everyone wants is
expandability.
I believe there is a workable solutions that most will find
satisfactory and perhaps as a pleasent suprise. The concept is to
produce the Amiga into parts or blocks that may be attached and even
re-configured to fit the packaging needs of many. Such configuring
abilities certainly would increase the versatility of the system as
well as allow users to expand their system as they see fit.
I think from the manufacturing and service perspective, cost
would be reduced as a result of dealing with standard packaging blocks.
Electronically, the Amiga seems to have it's Amiga primary board, an
ability add/enable board and a CPU board. The Amiga primary board would
be standard in all Amigas where the ability add/enable board is used to
add or make available additional features of the Amiga. The CPU board
of course may also contain ram expansion and scsi or IDE interface. The
variables here would be the ability add/enable board and the CPU board
and this will allow price differences with the Amiga block.
The blocks attach to each other through a slot that is
accessable from both the top and bottom of the right side of the
block (see dark gray slot panel cover on the units top right side,
back-side top for the lap-top and hidden in the set top base.) There
is a "T" pass-thru card the internal boards plug into, which has a card
edge connector on it's top and bottom edge. The blocks are connected
using what would be a double sided card edge connector. Securing the
blocks together is done by removing the light blue rubber molding,
behind which is the securing screws. This rubber molding also functions
as the feet so the tower/stacked system, or even the desk-top may be
layed/sat on it's side (preferably on the right side, due mounting
direction of the cards that internally plug into the T pass-thru card.)
The systems in the image:
Lap-Top - Though not a slim unit but more like a small brief-case,
uses the standard Amiga Block (bottom), Floppy-plus block (may contain
up to two hard-drives), Key-board (full size standard), LCD panel (near
the size of a 13" monitor.) The block on the lower far end is the
battery pack and external port pass-thru. Additionally the LCD pane
I had no issues in 2005 with my system at work, using AVG.
This year we are using Semantic and daily I run other programs to remove the spyware and virus'es that get through semantic. And daily I remove spyware that is taged as possible virus by adaware.
I do this when I notice my system getting clunky and always when I do a windows update (as there is always spyware added to any MS update, especially security updates)
So who is the "security" really for? Obviously its not for me or the company I world for.
MS anti-spyware software doesn't work.... It had over a month to find and remove a bunch of spyware... then I ran adaware.... it found spyware several years old... This is not new and improved spyware needing a new datatbase..... but old stuff...
Who is this MS anti-spyware working for? It certainly doesn't catch the spyware MS updates installs.
Moral of the story: Consider the motivating factors of any company offering such software.
Consider them strongly, and do NOT assume "they wouldn't do that", but test them for doing it if you accept their offer.