The fact that Trump is even a candidate has made me give up hope on that country for the forseeable future.
The whiny political correctness, the safe space garbage, attacks on speech, progressives supporting it. They made Trump a candidate because he doesn't give a shit. Welcome to the bed that the progressive left created, so bad that even liberals are likely to vote for Trump.
Considering the number of times you've repeated that lie, and people have told you that there was no review but you continue to repeat it kinda shows that you already believe the narrative presented to you. Useful tip: It was positive coverage, not forgetting the fact that it wasn't her boyfriend. Rather it was a game journo, who was also shacking up with her, paying for her hotels, and was also involved in part of the production of that work work. None of which was disclosed when he wrote the articles praising her as a indie darling and the not-quite VN, the best thing since sliced bread. I do find it funny how salty people get over deepfreeze though, who'd have though exposing gamejournos being corrupt would be so fulfilling.
What I find funny about all of it is, when this originally broke it was called burgers and fries. People dumped the name and it centered to gamergate, and of course aggro's like yourself continue to go on and on about "how changing the name would really mean they've distanced themselves from it" as well. Showing however, that even once the name was changed you didn't care. And when a conference with members of the SPJ decided to use a different name, the first thing aggro's did was start screaming about "how it's gamergate, and they rape women."
Or that after a year and a half, you still can't find actual threats linking them to gamergate but it's pretty easy to find outspoken aggro's who want to get people fired from their jobs, actively dox people, and in general are the usual asshats that social justice produces these days. Who of course believe that no matter what they do it's justified. ally got caught by pretending to be an actual terrorist.
Ironic how the "it's actually about ethics in games journalism" people really just seem to want journalists to attend industry shindigs and write whatever the damn publishers tell them to.
Ironic that the people who spout the above, don't seem to be able to figure out that a company has the right to refuse disclosing information to anyone, especially to an outlet that goes out of it's way to damage it's brand.
When did "geek" become a word to describe game playing fantasy obsessed weirdos.
Geeks have always been described at that. What changed was when mainstream decided that geeks were "cool" aka could make money off of us and they couldn't get away with ostracizing us anymore.
I'm going to toss something else in here, this is the same organization that now no longer receiving any information from Bethesda or Ubisoft because of their actions. They're no longer invited to any demos, no E3 presentations nothing. They've spent the last 5+ years pissing on both of those companies games, on the developers themselves, and on individual people. All the while launching personal attacks, leaking information and yelling all over the place how "sexist/problematic/racist" xyz game(s) are because of various insane reasons. Other smaller developers have followed those two AAA companies leads, and for good reason. There's a reason why a lot of smaller studios said "good, let's hope polygon is next."
Confused as to how SJW's fit into this conversation, or even your post.
Kotaku has a long history of pandering to the lowest common denominator when they publish an article. If they're not pandering and trying to blame something on xyz group to draw in clicks, they're running wild claiming that xyz group is the cause of the ills in the first place by just shoving it in there.
Well it's just like Canada, where everyone thinks all we do is eat maple syrup and live in igloo's. Don't worry you get used to it after 150 years or so.... the living in igloo's bit, we don't really have cities they're just really amazing holographic projections.
According to Steam.DB it's a page caching issue, and the server not obeying cache control headers. Which wouldn't surprise me, everytime there's a holiday sale of some kind weird things happen on Steam.
Why anyone would post something from Kotaku and believe it to be trustworthy though is what I find funny in all of this. I'm surprised that Kotaku didn't try to blame white males and the patriarchy for the problems.
A bunch of people identifying with a cause founded on a lie telling me they've done something good is not evidence unless you've drowned in their KoolAid already.
Why on earth should I believe them?
What lie would that be? And it's not them telling you that, it would be the information that was conveyed by the FTC telling you that. Unless of course you couldn't be bothered to read it.
Day one of gg was ethically spreading lies about Quinn because if ethics apparently. Those alleged reviews never existed.
Given the first event was doxxing, rape and death threats over someone who didn't do anything and the "movement" snow balled from there, why should the media take them seriously. Also rape, death threats aren't ethical, and so some group trying to take the moral high ground while making them is mental, no matter what they perceive the other "side" to be doing.
Since GG never said that there were reviews, rather she got preferential treatment which is true. Remember, if you're banging a journalist and they suddenly write something about what you're making that *is* unethical. If that same journalist is reviewing/writing/offering content for your game, that's also unethical. If you're dating that person and they write about it, it's also unethical. If you're paying for their hotel rooms, that again is also unethical. Note that her and grayson were involved in all of those. I can't figure out after a year why people still repeat that it was for reviews. And so I'm still waiting for these death and rape threats that you still have failed to actually show linked to GG. Want another example of said preferential treatment? Look up Anna Anthropy, I can think of several more including Tyler Wilde who had all of his articles on ubisoft products deleted because he was shacked up with a Ubisoft PR rep. That's unethical too, it's not rocket surgery.
Ah yes, Zoe Quinn doxxed herself to discredit them before they even started their movement. Is they no enormity that the anti gg crowd won't stoop to?
Which part would that be? The part where she still had access to her tumblr account, but there was dox being posted at the same time? Or the part where she was caught on 8chan doxing herself. Or how about when she was doxing people on wizardchan, you know the board that was for depressed virgins over 30..who are basically friendless, fat, and alone. Very progressive. Just like when she tried to shut down TFYC's charity to get more women into games development.
And yep, have a Merry Christmas, happy New Year to boot.
Correlation is not causation. The onus is on you to prove that the gaters had any effect on the FTC. The underlying cause (the rise of so-called native ads on the internet) is clearly the cause for both of these things. What is not clear is that the gaters had any effect on the FTC.
I did, you said it doesn't count. The documentation stating that it was the op in question was the main reason that the FTC turned around and updated the rules doesn't seem to count for you.
Of course one must remember that the media has had it out for GG since day one, unlike say...BLM. After all, a corrupt media that lives on clickbait has has an enemy in GG, especially an enemy that exposes their clickbait and unethical practices. Ever wonder why so many sites that survive on clickbait banned all discussion of it?
And on to your other point...
Ah yes the "they made rape threats so it's OK that we made rape threats".
How very "ethical" of you.
We're talking about ethics now? Well I'm still waiting for you to show that proof that you were talking about how GGers did those rape/death threats/doxing.
Well you pretty much summed it up, the whole malware bit where ad networks refuse to vet ads is probably the biggest reason people install ad blocking software. They could fix it tomorrow if they actually just veted the ads before they were served to ensure that it wouldn't be a problem.
But they can try a subscription based service, it won't work as long as people can find the information elsewhere. Ask the newspapers all over the place who've tried their paywalls and so on, and how much it's failed.
Way go over sell the importance of gamer gate. Undisclosed advertising has been a problem and has attracted regulations for decades.
I'm sure that's why it's suddenly all happened at once and the FTC has come out in force against it right? If it would have happened without gamergate, then I'm sure you can prove that they if they hadn't engaged in said campaign then it would have happened eventually as well.
Well let's see, you've provided a link. I'm sure that you're being ethical and providing a link to a nice, unbiased source, rather than something written by gaters themselves. The latter would be deeply unethical and therefore against everything gaters have ever done (excluding all the stuff they made up and the rape and death threats that is).
So like many people, you make the usual "rape/death threats/bs" I'm sure you've actually got proof of that, you know unlike the mass number of pedophiles in anti-GG or the ones that are actively doxing people, trying to get individuals fired from their workplace and in some cases have been trolls so epic that they ran with multiple identities and wrote for sites like the guardian, daily kos, and so on. And one can't forget some of the other anti-GG folks who are out there, trying to get video games pulled because it doesn't fit with their ideology, or the doxing of individuals operating a charity for women to boot.
One can't forget the anti-GG people either who wished to use chemical warfare to kill pro-GG folks, or the others who claimed the GG is "worse than ISIS" and "actual terrorists." Can't forget the new stuff either, like the claims that GG is so irrelevant that they call bomb threats in on themselves. Or the one's who claim they 'left home because of threats' but were still there to give interviews, or the ones who suddenly "left home because of threats" but really were leaving to go on vacation. Strange that people can't find police reports for those either...
Ah, being employed is part of the problem. That sure makes makes a lot of sense. Funny that it always appears that the guy with the loud mouth claiming that the other person is the problem when they're called out.
Why not? Grow a pair, and the world will be a better place.
Well, I clear around $7800/mo(not counting overtime which pushes me into the 138k range yearly) so if you'd like you can contact me at the above email address and I'll send you my paypal and you can start transferring the money over post-haste.
After all, when the company policy is to use xyz vpn while in HK or China you do what they say or you lose your job. This isn't rocket surgery.
Lot of sites switched to cloudflare as a cheap method of DDOS protection nothing more. It also makes it a pain in the ass for those of us who are out of the country and have to use a VPN service for work.
k. But talking regular cars, how often do you see cross-platform parts? Not very often, it's stupidly rare. Which is what the parent poster was alluding to. I don't do much in terms of working on cars anymore(I am a licensed mechanic in the Province of Ontario), but I keep enough to know what's going on in the industry and two of my friends are mechanics, one of which owns his own garage, the other works at a major GM dealership here in Ontario.
This and most car companies use a lot of common parts between them. More electric car makers means cheaper parts for tesla
Can't think of many off the top of my head unless they're rebranded from Europe to NA, Asia to NA, Asia to Europe and so on. And they're part of a co-manufacturing pact(see GM and Suzuki). You could pull a Opal intake manifold off a car and slap it onto a Saturn, you could pull a disk or drum brake off a Saturn and slap it on a SAAB. But you're not going to be pulling a intake manifold off a Cadillac or BMW and slapping it on a Charger or Audi. Nor many other parts these days, they simply don't have a common parts chain unless it's aftermarket. Meaning the vehicle has been on the market for a couple of years and you're buying non-OEM parts coming from someone like Spectra.
The best for the year according to the data I had(it rolls over every 2mo), was 15 consecutive days of sunlight totaling 288.9kWh of generated power. But you are right on the fall bit, and yeah here in Ontario they shut down the coal plants and the price of electricity at the consumer level went from 3-5c/kWh to 7-14c/kWh and it's still climbing. Of course they also went to build a gas plant, and it was found that the data relating to it was deleted and two members of the current government were directly involved, one being the former premier's chief of staff. Could be interesting on that one, because in Canada they could be looking at 20 years in prison and the investigation still isn't done.
mdsolar writes with another sensationalist article about how we will all die a nuclear death.
Just remember, that solar is such a great choice. I mean it's not like we haven't had 17 consecutive days of overcast skies or anything in my neck of the woods here in Canada. The solar panel(30x30ft) nearby has reported a grand total of 1.28kWh of generation for that entire period. Which of course is why we have the second largest nuclear generation plants in the world here.
I can understand people wanting to put appearance before functionality. While a solar farm is a great resource, if it has a negative impact on people, then it needs to be rethought. It is not unlike someone getting upset because a 24 story high-rise is going to be blocking their view of the sea. One possible solution is simply to use existing roofs to install the solar panels?
That's a better plan then what they're doing here in Ontario right now. Because "green energy" rebates, and governments paying upwards of 0.80/kWh, they've got farmers turning prime pasture and crop land into fields of solar farms. That's happening both inside and outside of the greenbelt here, I know of two farms near Putnam that have done it and two just outside of Milton.
This isn't the first time it's happened in the last couple of months either. Quebec had 71 schools threatened with bomb threats and shootings in November a few weeks prior to that several schools in Ottawa were threatened as well. It almost seems like someone/group is doing this because they know that people will overreact, and of course if something did happen people would be screaming bloody murder because they didn't overreact.
So why didn't totally bar arbitration altogether in its service agreement? In small print, "You cannot sue us, anytime, anywhere over anything. Period. No exceptions. Don't even dream of trying to contact a lawyer."
That's easy, because some places you can't waive legally guaranteed rights that are afforded to you by law by contract. It actually makes the entire contract void.
Oh you'd be surprised at the amount of stolen cars being shipped out. The only search something like 2% of cargo containers right now, and shipping out a two stolen cars with one legit car happens quite a bit. Kind of like how here in the Americas, car thieves will buy a wrecked vehicle(usually water damaged or salvage), swipe the VIN, then slap it onto a stolen car. Which is why you check dashboard VIN against the other stamped VIN's on the vehicle parts(windows, doors, transmission, engine, body panels, subframe etc) when you buy. Hell there was a dealership here in Ontario that bought up a bunch of cheap vehicles and had them all seized because they were stolen, and they didn't double check to see if there was matching/mismatched VIN's.
If someone is runs a legit repair, seeing 4-5 VINs is common since they're removing parts from one salvage vehicle to another and then reselling a repaired vehicle. Of course, you need to check those VINs to make sure that they weren't stolen too, since chopshops do exist.
The fact that Trump is even a candidate has made me give up hope on that country for the forseeable future.
The whiny political correctness, the safe space garbage, attacks on speech, progressives supporting it. They made Trump a candidate because he doesn't give a shit. Welcome to the bed that the progressive left created, so bad that even liberals are likely to vote for Trump.
Considering the number of times you've repeated that lie, and people have told you that there was no review but you continue to repeat it kinda shows that you already believe the narrative presented to you. Useful tip: It was positive coverage, not forgetting the fact that it wasn't her boyfriend. Rather it was a game journo, who was also shacking up with her, paying for her hotels, and was also involved in part of the production of that work work. None of which was disclosed when he wrote the articles praising her as a indie darling and the not-quite VN, the best thing since sliced bread. I do find it funny how salty people get over deepfreeze though, who'd have though exposing gamejournos being corrupt would be so fulfilling.
What I find funny about all of it is, when this originally broke it was called burgers and fries. People dumped the name and it centered to gamergate, and of course aggro's like yourself continue to go on and on about "how changing the name would really mean they've distanced themselves from it" as well. Showing however, that even once the name was changed you didn't care. And when a conference with members of the SPJ decided to use a different name, the first thing aggro's did was start screaming about "how it's gamergate, and they rape women."
Or that after a year and a half, you still can't find actual threats linking them to gamergate but it's pretty easy to find outspoken aggro's who want to get people fired from their jobs, actively dox people, and in general are the usual asshats that social justice produces these days. Who of course believe that no matter what they do it's justified. ally got caught by pretending to be an actual terrorist.
Ironic how the "it's actually about ethics in games journalism" people really just seem to want journalists to attend industry shindigs and write whatever the damn publishers tell them to.
Ironic that the people who spout the above, don't seem to be able to figure out that a company has the right to refuse disclosing information to anyone, especially to an outlet that goes out of it's way to damage it's brand.
When did "geek" become a word to describe game playing fantasy obsessed weirdos.
Geeks have always been described at that. What changed was when mainstream decided that geeks were "cool" aka could make money off of us and they couldn't get away with ostracizing us anymore.
I'm going to toss something else in here, this is the same organization that now no longer receiving any information from Bethesda or Ubisoft because of their actions. They're no longer invited to any demos, no E3 presentations nothing. They've spent the last 5+ years pissing on both of those companies games, on the developers themselves, and on individual people. All the while launching personal attacks, leaking information and yelling all over the place how "sexist/problematic/racist" xyz game(s) are because of various insane reasons. Other smaller developers have followed those two AAA companies leads, and for good reason. There's a reason why a lot of smaller studios said "good, let's hope polygon is next."
Confused as to how SJW's fit into this conversation, or even your post.
Kotaku has a long history of pandering to the lowest common denominator when they publish an article. If they're not pandering and trying to blame something on xyz group to draw in clicks, they're running wild claiming that xyz group is the cause of the ills in the first place by just shoving it in there.
Well it's just like Canada, where everyone thinks all we do is eat maple syrup and live in igloo's. Don't worry you get used to it after 150 years or so.... the living in igloo's bit, we don't really have cities they're just really amazing holographic projections.
According to Steam.DB it's a page caching issue, and the server not obeying cache control headers. Which wouldn't surprise me, everytime there's a holiday sale of some kind weird things happen on Steam.
Why anyone would post something from Kotaku and believe it to be trustworthy though is what I find funny in all of this. I'm surprised that Kotaku didn't try to blame white males and the patriarchy for the problems.
A bunch of people identifying with a cause founded on a lie telling me they've done something good is not evidence unless you've drowned in their KoolAid already.
Why on earth should I believe them?
What lie would that be? And it's not them telling you that, it would be the information that was conveyed by the FTC telling you that. Unless of course you couldn't be bothered to read it.
Day one of gg was ethically spreading lies about Quinn because if ethics apparently. Those alleged reviews never existed.
Given the first event was doxxing, rape and death threats over someone who didn't do anything and the "movement" snow balled from there, why should the media take them seriously. Also rape, death threats aren't ethical, and so some group trying to take the moral high ground while making them is mental, no matter what they perceive the other "side" to be doing.
Since GG never said that there were reviews, rather she got preferential treatment which is true. Remember, if you're banging a journalist and they suddenly write something about what you're making that *is* unethical. If that same journalist is reviewing/writing/offering content for your game, that's also unethical. If you're dating that person and they write about it, it's also unethical. If you're paying for their hotel rooms, that again is also unethical. Note that her and grayson were involved in all of those. I can't figure out after a year why people still repeat that it was for reviews. And so I'm still waiting for these death and rape threats that you still have failed to actually show linked to GG. Want another example of said preferential treatment? Look up Anna Anthropy, I can think of several more including Tyler Wilde who had all of his articles on ubisoft products deleted because he was shacked up with a Ubisoft PR rep. That's unethical too, it's not rocket surgery.
Ah yes, Zoe Quinn doxxed herself to discredit them before they even started their movement. Is they no enormity that the anti gg crowd won't stoop to?
Which part would that be? The part where she still had access to her tumblr account, but there was dox being posted at the same time? Or the part where she was caught on 8chan doxing herself. Or how about when she was doxing people on wizardchan, you know the board that was for depressed virgins over 30..who are basically friendless, fat, and alone. Very progressive. Just like when she tried to shut down TFYC's charity to get more women into games development.
And yep, have a Merry Christmas, happy New Year to boot.
Correlation is not causation. The onus is on you to prove that the gaters had any effect on the FTC. The underlying cause (the rise of so-called native ads on the internet) is clearly the cause for both of these things. What is not clear is that the gaters had any effect on the FTC.
I did, you said it doesn't count. The documentation stating that it was the op in question was the main reason that the FTC turned around and updated the rules doesn't seem to count for you.
Of course one must remember that the media has had it out for GG since day one, unlike say...BLM. After all, a corrupt media that lives on clickbait has has an enemy in GG, especially an enemy that exposes their clickbait and unethical practices. Ever wonder why so many sites that survive on clickbait banned all discussion of it?
And on to your other point...
Ah yes the "they made rape threats so it's OK that we made rape threats".
How very "ethical" of you.
We're talking about ethics now? Well I'm still waiting for you to show that proof that you were talking about how GGers did those rape/death threats/doxing.
Well you pretty much summed it up, the whole malware bit where ad networks refuse to vet ads is probably the biggest reason people install ad blocking software. They could fix it tomorrow if they actually just veted the ads before they were served to ensure that it wouldn't be a problem.
But they can try a subscription based service, it won't work as long as people can find the information elsewhere. Ask the newspapers all over the place who've tried their paywalls and so on, and how much it's failed.
Way go over sell the importance of gamer gate. Undisclosed advertising has been a problem and has attracted regulations for decades.
I'm sure that's why it's suddenly all happened at once and the FTC has come out in force against it right? If it would have happened without gamergate, then I'm sure you can prove that they if they hadn't engaged in said campaign then it would have happened eventually as well.
Well let's see, you've provided a link. I'm sure that you're being ethical and providing a link to a nice, unbiased source, rather than something written by gaters themselves. The latter would be deeply unethical and therefore against everything gaters have ever done (excluding all the stuff they made up and the rape and death threats that is).
So like many people, you make the usual "rape/death threats/bs" I'm sure you've actually got proof of that, you know unlike the mass number of pedophiles in anti-GG or the ones that are actively doxing people, trying to get individuals fired from their workplace and in some cases have been trolls so epic that they ran with multiple identities and wrote for sites like the guardian, daily kos, and so on. And one can't forget some of the other anti-GG folks who are out there, trying to get video games pulled because it doesn't fit with their ideology, or the doxing of individuals operating a charity for women to boot.
One can't forget the anti-GG people either who wished to use chemical warfare to kill pro-GG folks, or the others who claimed the GG is "worse than ISIS" and "actual terrorists." Can't forget the new stuff either, like the claims that GG is so irrelevant that they call bomb threats in on themselves. Or the one's who claim they 'left home because of threats' but were still there to give interviews, or the ones who suddenly "left home because of threats" but really were leaving to go on vacation. Strange that people can't find police reports for those either...
The only reason why this has been happening in the first place is because Gamergate started a campaign against undisclosed native advertising last year. The whole idea was going after clickbait sites by hurting their bottom line, and it seems to be working very well.
Ah, being employed is part of the problem. That sure makes makes a lot of sense. Funny that it always appears that the guy with the loud mouth claiming that the other person is the problem when they're called out.
Why not? Grow a pair, and the world will be a better place.
Well, I clear around $7800/mo(not counting overtime which pushes me into the 138k range yearly) so if you'd like you can contact me at the above email address and I'll send you my paypal and you can start transferring the money over post-haste.
After all, when the company policy is to use xyz vpn while in HK or China you do what they say or you lose your job. This isn't rocket surgery.
So stop visiting those sites.
Sure, I'll just remove Zendesk and Cisco from the list of companies I occasionally have to do work with. I'm sure that will work out well.
Lot of sites switched to cloudflare as a cheap method of DDOS protection nothing more. It also makes it a pain in the ass for those of us who are out of the country and have to use a VPN service for work.
k. But talking regular cars, how often do you see cross-platform parts? Not very often, it's stupidly rare. Which is what the parent poster was alluding to. I don't do much in terms of working on cars anymore(I am a licensed mechanic in the Province of Ontario), but I keep enough to know what's going on in the industry and two of my friends are mechanics, one of which owns his own garage, the other works at a major GM dealership here in Ontario.
This and most car companies use a lot of common parts between them. More electric car makers means cheaper parts for tesla
Can't think of many off the top of my head unless they're rebranded from Europe to NA, Asia to NA, Asia to Europe and so on. And they're part of a co-manufacturing pact(see GM and Suzuki). You could pull a Opal intake manifold off a car and slap it onto a Saturn, you could pull a disk or drum brake off a Saturn and slap it on a SAAB. But you're not going to be pulling a intake manifold off a Cadillac or BMW and slapping it on a Charger or Audi. Nor many other parts these days, they simply don't have a common parts chain unless it's aftermarket. Meaning the vehicle has been on the market for a couple of years and you're buying non-OEM parts coming from someone like Spectra.
The best for the year according to the data I had(it rolls over every 2mo), was 15 consecutive days of sunlight totaling 288.9kWh of generated power. But you are right on the fall bit, and yeah here in Ontario they shut down the coal plants and the price of electricity at the consumer level went from 3-5c/kWh to 7-14c/kWh and it's still climbing. Of course they also went to build a gas plant, and it was found that the data relating to it was deleted and two members of the current government were directly involved, one being the former premier's chief of staff. Could be interesting on that one, because in Canada they could be looking at 20 years in prison and the investigation still isn't done.
mdsolar writes with another sensationalist article about how we will all die a nuclear death.
Just remember, that solar is such a great choice. I mean it's not like we haven't had 17 consecutive days of overcast skies or anything in my neck of the woods here in Canada. The solar panel(30x30ft) nearby has reported a grand total of 1.28kWh of generation for that entire period. Which of course is why we have the second largest nuclear generation plants in the world here.
I can understand people wanting to put appearance before functionality. While a solar farm is a great resource, if it has a negative impact on people, then it needs to be rethought. It is not unlike someone getting upset because a 24 story high-rise is going to be blocking their view of the sea. One possible solution is simply to use existing roofs to install the solar panels?
That's a better plan then what they're doing here in Ontario right now. Because "green energy" rebates, and governments paying upwards of 0.80/kWh, they've got farmers turning prime pasture and crop land into fields of solar farms. That's happening both inside and outside of the greenbelt here, I know of two farms near Putnam that have done it and two just outside of Milton.
This isn't the first time it's happened in the last couple of months either. Quebec had 71 schools threatened with bomb threats and shootings in November a few weeks prior to that several schools in Ottawa were threatened as well. It almost seems like someone/group is doing this because they know that people will overreact, and of course if something did happen people would be screaming bloody murder because they didn't overreact.
So why didn't totally bar arbitration altogether in its service agreement? In small print, "You cannot sue us, anytime, anywhere over anything. Period. No exceptions. Don't even dream of trying to contact a lawyer."
That's easy, because some places you can't waive legally guaranteed rights that are afforded to you by law by contract. It actually makes the entire contract void.
Oh you'd be surprised at the amount of stolen cars being shipped out. The only search something like 2% of cargo containers right now, and shipping out a two stolen cars with one legit car happens quite a bit. Kind of like how here in the Americas, car thieves will buy a wrecked vehicle(usually water damaged or salvage), swipe the VIN, then slap it onto a stolen car. Which is why you check dashboard VIN against the other stamped VIN's on the vehicle parts(windows, doors, transmission, engine, body panels, subframe etc) when you buy. Hell there was a dealership here in Ontario that bought up a bunch of cheap vehicles and had them all seized because they were stolen, and they didn't double check to see if there was matching/mismatched VIN's.
If someone is runs a legit repair, seeing 4-5 VINs is common since they're removing parts from one salvage vehicle to another and then reselling a repaired vehicle. Of course, you need to check those VINs to make sure that they weren't stolen too, since chopshops do exist.