And you are using the actions of a few to judge the many. You just might want to work on your reasoning, as it currently sucks.
Sadly, I'm not using the actions of a few. I'm looking at the actions of dozens on dozens of cases. You might want to spend a bit of time looking up the amount of bullshit that's being peddled, while screaming that "omg them racists are out to get us..." when they don't exist. Oh and read that lovely fable "The boy who cried wolf" as well.
Oh you mean news services? The actual information itself from the people who originally claimed that it was xyz then retracted it. Ready to hang up your intellectual cowardice and say you were wrong?
Of course, you're not just using this as a pretext to attack your favorite boogeyman of the moment, the mythical "social justice warrior", are you? Because that would be stupid.
Welcome to the modern face of "social justice" where if they don't get what they want, they'll make shit up or attack people. With that, social justice is no different then a mob of people who would rather ignore the rule of law and take it into their own hands.
And then AMD threw it all away. A bunch of fucking MBAs decided they didn't really need to pay a bunch of expensive chip designers to make chips, and that it would be a better idea financially to sell of the fab so their remaining development team could be isolated away from the fabrication process. Brilliant plan.
Well it'll be Intel's chance to gain again, since for the last couple of years Intel has been hiring a bunch of MBA's and slapping them into high positions within the company and it's starting to show already.
If you live in Canada or the EU, doing so make the EULA null and void. The user is required to be presented with a new agreement, and in some cases where collection of private information happens it still makes the new agreement void because you can't waive rights guaranteed under law. Not sure on the EU with that one though.
No, that isn't a quota. A quota is when there is a specific number of something required. Merely helping a disadvantaged group with no specific numeric goal in mind is not a quota.
That's exactly what a quota is. If you're including people who aren't getting there by merit, then it becomes a quota.
Who said anything about lowering requirements? You are hallucinating again.
Sometimes there may be a case of altering the standards if they are somehow discriminatory, but clearly it's pointless if it results in workers who can't do the job. The focus is on bringing everyone up, not pushing the standard down.
I'd be happy if that was a hallucination, except that it really happens. So tell me, if you're halving the requirements for say a firefighter, so a women only has to carry a 125lbs person instead of one that weighs 250lbs that's a good thing? How about when a constable is required to do a 1mi run in 9 minutes, but it's 15 minutes for a women. Or a man is required to do 30 pushups, but only 10 modified for a women. Is that also good?
Because that happens too, and it means that people who shouldn't be doing the job are doing the job. And it's pushing standards down.
Right there were physical processors, and per-core licensing was a thing even then. Back way in the 90's as you should remember, each processor was considered an individual core.
They could make the money back in spades by becoming the first country to build an arcology and transplanting their population and catering to the beach goers still.
You sound exactly like the guys down at the local bar moaning about how it all went downhill after women got the vote.
You forgot to add:
Thanks, Obama!
Yeah how dare I actually be involved in FOSS projects and see the amount of BS going on these days over the perpetual hurt feelings brigade over words that are used in important functions.
Oh as for the Obama thing? Pro tip: America isn't the centre of the universe, no matter how much you think it is.
5 insightful? So you must have proof that hipsters and millenials are running the show at Mozilla?
Certiously, someone so insightful should have pretty good citations.
I'll even wait until you get those goddamned kids off your lawn for the cites.
You only need to look at the policy changes and the internal pushes that have been taking place at Mozilla itself including statements by their current CEO and others. That includes stuff by people who work at Mozilla trying to force their views on people at other OSS projects. Or haven't you noticed the shrill amount of whining by hipsters and millennials over terms like "master, slave, suicide"(as an example) in various FOSS projects, and how they want to remove them. Never mind that it would break backwards compatibility, it's all about the perceived hurt feelings. And that those people who contribute nothing, are directly impacting projects.
Except they have a valid point. If the changes that these people made had been rated as good by the general public, there would have been an increase in their marketshare. In this case the opposite has held true, and it reflects directly back on those that mozilla has hired meaning that the millinials/hipsters are the cause of mozilla's massive loss in marketshare in the last 8 years. This entire thing could be summed up as a learning experience: Don't change what isn't broken, and don't shove garbage down the users throats.
This has been explained to you multiple times on Slashdot. Why don't you listen?
Once again, the goal is not quotas, it's to ensure that anyone of any gender or race who wants to enter IT and is skilled enough to do so is able to. Yes, that does sometimes mean having programmes targeting particular groups, in order to solve particular problems that relate to those groups.
If you're giving one particular group a handout, but not others so you can hire more of xyz person. That's a quota based decision. This isn't difficult to understand.
In actual fact, we do care that there are women who want to become mechanics and firefighters and police who are unable to. In fact one of the biggest scandals and points of criticisms of the police in the UK over the last 30 years is the lack of diversity, including women and ethnic minorities. Just because you close your eyes to these efforts, doesn't mean they are not happening. We also care just as much that there are not enough men going into nursing and teaching.
The issue with rubbish collection is that there are few people looking to enter that profession, and most of us on Slashdot are in IT so we concentrate on those issues where there is great demand. Don't misunderstand though, the goal is equal opportunity in all areas.
People keep explaining this to you, and you keep sticking your fingers in your ears and singing LALALALALALA. Then you accuse us of not caring, when we just told you that we do care.
Well that's great you want to have women to become those things. But why are you lowering the requirements or want to lower them so that they have an advantage to be hired. Is that hiring based on merit? Nope. Is that hiring based on lower standards yep. If two people have the exact same grades, abilities, and someone will hire the women over the man because that makes them look more diverse that's a quota based hiring.
The problem is, you don't seem to understand that not hiring people at the same standards that everyone else is or hiring them based on their gender/sex/race is a bad thing for everyone. And then you happily jam your fingers in your ears while stomping your feet saying that it's perfectly fine to hire people like that instead of based on merit.
Not entirely social reasons. Most women just don't want to do it. Why force them in order to satisfy some arbitrary quota? An efficient society is one where you let people do the jobs they want to do.
Well you're right. You see groups or people trying to push diversity quotas in on things like programming and IT quite often. But they become very silent, or go "LALALALALALAICANTHEARYOU" when you ask them why they're not pushing for diversity quotas in things like: garbage/recycling collectors, mechanics and autobody workers, miners, fisherman, trappers(that includes wild animals, and crab or lobster), antenna service techs, firefighters and police and so on.
And in the very rare case where they're successful in pushing a diversity quota through for things like firefighters or police, they then start whining when they're held to the same standards as men are...until their whining becomes so loud that they just give in and lower the requirements. Then you end up with firefighters who only sit around at the station because they can't haul a 180lbs person on their back, and no one trusts them to be able to pull them out of a building until they pass the same requirements as men.
In the case of policing, here in Ontario the requirements are for men: 1mi run in 12mins, 30 pushups, 60 curl ups in under 1min 30 sec, 30 chin ups in 3 minutes. Women's requirements: 1mi run in 17mins, 12 pushups(modified), 30 curl ups in 2 minutes, 12(or 15 can't remember) in 5 minutes.
Don't worry, you can see the new brand of B and C rated actors when this launches and realize how terrible it really will be. They even have Felicia "Around Gamers never relax" Day in it.
i agree with you! they should have shut down the Boston marathon (and all other marathons going forward) because of the risk of TERRORISM.
Can you point to the terrorist attacks that occurred in Boston two weeks before the running of the marathon. On top of that, can you point to the credible threats that shut down sporting events, and city centres in nearby countries also both within the last two weeks.
I realize that not being an idiot is difficult sometimes, but you could try harder or perhaps head back to high school.
Hecklers veto. If police are concerned about an attack on the protests, they should beef up security around the protests, not block them altogether.
In reality, Paris just wants to suppress dissent. So do you.
And that beefed up police presence worked well for the two nuts who did the boston bombing right? Remember that unlike those of us who live in Canada or the US the laws on the books are fundamentally different in many parts of Europe.
In reality, I'm playing the devils advocate. You're just making an ass out of yourself.
Before Fox would air a new episode of 24, would you put a new set of vinyl sheets on your mattress in preparation for a night of terrified bedwetting?
Do you turn around and ignore reasonable assessments of threats, and then bury your head in the sand when there is a credible possibility? After all, that's what led to the cancellation of a soccer game in Germany last week. One can't forget about what happened in Brussels last week either.
It's fun to play 'what if' so let's do that. Let's say the government doesn't use emergency powers to block the protests. And a couple of weeks after a series of terrorist attacks, terrorists use the opportunity to splody-dope themselves from within the crowd. The public response would be: "Why didn't you stop the protests." And on the other hand, you have the "Why is France stopping the protests, are they afraid or something?" Because they're taking a reasonable precaution.
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Doubtful. Twitter already engages in banning people for wrongthink and forcing people to delete tweets that are engaged in wrongthink as well. You think they'll give an exemption to Tor users? I doubt it, more likely they'll bend over backwards and give the totalitarian governments a hand.
And you are using the actions of a few to judge the many. You just might want to work on your reasoning, as it currently sucks.
Sadly, I'm not using the actions of a few. I'm looking at the actions of dozens on dozens of cases. You might want to spend a bit of time looking up the amount of bullshit that's being peddled, while screaming that "omg them racists are out to get us..." when they don't exist. Oh and read that lovely fable "The boy who cried wolf" as well.
Nice reliable sources you've got there.
Oh you mean news services? The actual information itself from the people who originally claimed that it was xyz then retracted it. Ready to hang up your intellectual cowardice and say you were wrong?
Of course, you're not just using this as a pretext to attack your favorite boogeyman of the moment, the mythical "social justice warrior", are you? Because that would be stupid.
Would that be the mythical SJW's who threatened to shoot black students/people, while claiming to be white but were actually black? Or perhaps we should look at what happened at Yale and Mizzou, you know where people took the "it was a bunch of guys riding around in a pickup /white students harassing blacks/etc" that didn't actually happen.
Well, that was all mythical right?
Welcome to the modern face of "social justice" where if they don't get what they want, they'll make shit up or attack people. With that, social justice is no different then a mob of people who would rather ignore the rule of law and take it into their own hands.
Well that covers the special snowflakes out there with no problem, especially the ones that claim they've gotten PTSD from a tweet.
And then AMD threw it all away. A bunch of fucking MBAs decided they didn't really need to pay a bunch of expensive chip designers to make chips, and that it would be a better idea financially to sell of the fab so their remaining development team could be isolated away from the fabrication process. Brilliant plan.
Well it'll be Intel's chance to gain again, since for the last couple of years Intel has been hiring a bunch of MBA's and slapping them into high positions within the company and it's starting to show already.
You mad bro?
Sadly no, more disappointed in the general stupidity.
If you live in Canada or the EU, doing so make the EULA null and void. The user is required to be presented with a new agreement, and in some cases where collection of private information happens it still makes the new agreement void because you can't waive rights guaranteed under law. Not sure on the EU with that one though.
No, that isn't a quota. A quota is when there is a specific number of something required. Merely helping a disadvantaged group with no specific numeric goal in mind is not a quota.
That's exactly what a quota is. If you're including people who aren't getting there by merit, then it becomes a quota.
Who said anything about lowering requirements? You are hallucinating again.
Sometimes there may be a case of altering the standards if they are somehow discriminatory, but clearly it's pointless if it results in workers who can't do the job. The focus is on bringing everyone up, not pushing the standard down.
I'd be happy if that was a hallucination, except that it really happens. So tell me, if you're halving the requirements for say a firefighter, so a women only has to carry a 125lbs person instead of one that weighs 250lbs that's a good thing? How about when a constable is required to do a 1mi run in 9 minutes, but it's 15 minutes for a women. Or a man is required to do 30 pushups, but only 10 modified for a women. Is that also good?
Because that happens too, and it means that people who shouldn't be doing the job are doing the job. And it's pushing standards down.
Right there were physical processors, and per-core licensing was a thing even then. Back way in the 90's as you should remember, each processor was considered an individual core.
They could make the money back in spades by becoming the first country to build an arcology and transplanting their population and catering to the beach goers still.
You sound exactly like the guys down at the local bar moaning about how it all went downhill after women got the vote.
You forgot to add:
Thanks, Obama!
Yeah how dare I actually be involved in FOSS projects and see the amount of BS going on these days over the perpetual hurt feelings brigade over words that are used in important functions.
Oh as for the Obama thing? Pro tip: America isn't the centre of the universe, no matter how much you think it is.
5 insightful? So you must have proof that hipsters and millenials are running the show at Mozilla?
Certiously, someone so insightful should have pretty good citations.
I'll even wait until you get those goddamned kids off your lawn for the cites.
You only need to look at the policy changes and the internal pushes that have been taking place at Mozilla itself including statements by their current CEO and others. That includes stuff by people who work at Mozilla trying to force their views on people at other OSS projects. Or haven't you noticed the shrill amount of whining by hipsters and millennials over terms like "master, slave, suicide"(as an example) in various FOSS projects, and how they want to remove them. Never mind that it would break backwards compatibility, it's all about the perceived hurt feelings. And that those people who contribute nothing, are directly impacting projects.
This isn't even close to being complicated. MS was doing per-core licensing back when WindowsNT 3.1 was a thing.
Except they have a valid point. If the changes that these people made had been rated as good by the general public, there would have been an increase in their marketshare. In this case the opposite has held true, and it reflects directly back on those that mozilla has hired meaning that the millinials/hipsters are the cause of mozilla's massive loss in marketshare in the last 8 years. This entire thing could be summed up as a learning experience: Don't change what isn't broken, and don't shove garbage down the users throats.
This has been explained to you multiple times on Slashdot. Why don't you listen?
Once again, the goal is not quotas, it's to ensure that anyone of any gender or race who wants to enter IT and is skilled enough to do so is able to. Yes, that does sometimes mean having programmes targeting particular groups, in order to solve particular problems that relate to those groups.
If you're giving one particular group a handout, but not others so you can hire more of xyz person. That's a quota based decision. This isn't difficult to understand.
In actual fact, we do care that there are women who want to become mechanics and firefighters and police who are unable to. In fact one of the biggest scandals and points of criticisms of the police in the UK over the last 30 years is the lack of diversity, including women and ethnic minorities. Just because you close your eyes to these efforts, doesn't mean they are not happening. We also care just as much that there are not enough men going into nursing and teaching.
The issue with rubbish collection is that there are few people looking to enter that profession, and most of us on Slashdot are in IT so we concentrate on those issues where there is great demand. Don't misunderstand though, the goal is equal opportunity in all areas.
People keep explaining this to you, and you keep sticking your fingers in your ears and singing LALALALALALA. Then you accuse us of not caring, when we just told you that we do care.
Well that's great you want to have women to become those things. But why are you lowering the requirements or want to lower them so that they have an advantage to be hired. Is that hiring based on merit? Nope. Is that hiring based on lower standards yep. If two people have the exact same grades, abilities, and someone will hire the women over the man because that makes them look more diverse that's a quota based hiring.
The problem is, you don't seem to understand that not hiring people at the same standards that everyone else is or hiring them based on their gender/sex/race is a bad thing for everyone. And then you happily jam your fingers in your ears while stomping your feet saying that it's perfectly fine to hire people like that instead of based on merit.
Not entirely social reasons. Most women just don't want to do it. Why force them in order to satisfy some arbitrary quota? An efficient society is one where you let people do the jobs they want to do.
Well you're right. You see groups or people trying to push diversity quotas in on things like programming and IT quite often. But they become very silent, or go "LALALALALALAICANTHEARYOU" when you ask them why they're not pushing for diversity quotas in things like: garbage/recycling collectors, mechanics and autobody workers, miners, fisherman, trappers(that includes wild animals, and crab or lobster), antenna service techs, firefighters and police and so on.
And in the very rare case where they're successful in pushing a diversity quota through for things like firefighters or police, they then start whining when they're held to the same standards as men are...until their whining becomes so loud that they just give in and lower the requirements. Then you end up with firefighters who only sit around at the station because they can't haul a 180lbs person on their back, and no one trusts them to be able to pull them out of a building until they pass the same requirements as men.
In the case of policing, here in Ontario the requirements are for men: 1mi run in 12mins, 30 pushups, 60 curl ups in under 1min 30 sec, 30 chin ups in 3 minutes.
Women's requirements: 1mi run in 17mins, 12 pushups(modified), 30 curl ups in 2 minutes, 12(or 15 can't remember) in 5 minutes.
They're APU's not CPU's.
Don't worry, you can see the new brand of B and C rated actors when this launches and realize how terrible it really will be. They even have Felicia "Around Gamers never relax" Day in it.
i agree with you! they should have shut down the Boston marathon (and all other marathons going forward) because of the risk of TERRORISM.
Can you point to the terrorist attacks that occurred in Boston two weeks before the running of the marathon. On top of that, can you point to the credible threats that shut down sporting events, and city centres in nearby countries also both within the last two weeks.
I realize that not being an idiot is difficult sometimes, but you could try harder or perhaps head back to high school.
Hecklers veto. If police are concerned about an attack on the protests, they should beef up security around the protests, not block them altogether.
In reality, Paris just wants to suppress dissent. So do you.
And that beefed up police presence worked well for the two nuts who did the boston bombing right? Remember that unlike those of us who live in Canada or the US the laws on the books are fundamentally different in many parts of Europe.
In reality, I'm playing the devils advocate. You're just making an ass out of yourself.
I don't think you know what splidey dope means...
Really?
Before Fox would air a new episode of 24, would you put a new set of vinyl sheets on your mattress in preparation for a night of terrified bedwetting?
Do you turn around and ignore reasonable assessments of threats, and then bury your head in the sand when there is a credible possibility? After all, that's what led to the cancellation of a soccer game in Germany last week. One can't forget about what happened in Brussels last week either.
It's fun to play 'what if' so let's do that. Let's say the government doesn't use emergency powers to block the protests. And a couple of weeks after a series of terrorist attacks, terrorists use the opportunity to splody-dope themselves from within the crowd. The public response would be: "Why didn't you stop the protests." And on the other hand, you have the "Why is France stopping the protests, are they afraid or something?" Because they're taking a reasonable precaution.
Give links, man. Let everybody see what you're talking about so they can understand your commitment to ethics in journalism.
The zoe post vs what the media reports.
Common knowledge is quite uncommon.
Really? You should let the courts know asap. My theory that the sky is actually puce in colour should go over well then.