Yes there is laws against this. Anyone who lives in Canada, and is a part of the experiment but did not receive informed consent may contact Health Canada/federal crown about it. It's illegal here.
You realize that using google will disprove the first two links in about 8 seconds right? And the last with Germany on average running 38c/KwH isn't the highest in the EU right now right? Old data from wikipedia isn't exactly making your point.
And that's why europeans are building coal power plants at astounding rates, and Germany is buying lots of power from France. With that, Germany also has the most expensive electricity in the world. Forward to bankruptcy!
Don't worry, they will just slash and burn the [remaining] forests to provide arable land. What could possibly go wrong?
We have more forest in Canada today then there was 150 years ago. With that though we've got a wonderful plague of insects and diseases because of the US and piss poor import management which are destroying forests. Then again, with the amount of arable farmland we have here, we wouldn't have to do squat.
Really? I'm pretty sure I'm trading the long term for the long term in a different way. Tell me, what would happen if to those countries where they're having 8-10 kids at a time, like we here in the west were not even 80 years ago. Pre-industrial revolution of course, and they were suddenly in the span of 80 years on-at-or near par with us technologically.
Just ponder that one out, and while you're still thinking just think if there were more people like Norman Bourlag around, who in fact focused on food, and food production and attempted several times to introduce it to those dirt farming nations that are perpetually broke, rocked by wars and so on because of food shortages mainly. Now, while you're thinking on this what happens when you have an entire rock that's able to feed itself, has a high standard of living and is producing people who are intellectually fit and not driven by "tribal conflicts" and so on.
I'll wait, because you probably don't have an answer to those hypothetical statements. But as a point, Bourlag attempted several times to increase farming there, and nearly every time it was leftist groups causing problems, or wars causing problems.
Now tell me, which option is the way to go for "human misery"?
Apparently it's both. Then again I live in an energy-rich country that's a massive net-exporter of everything from oil based, to nuclear based. Funny enough we supply ~20% of the energy for the US North East. You get one guess to which country.
Let me guess, you typed that while staring into a reflective, black screen. Permitting unchecked emissions of CO2 is what's going to cause us the real human misery. Keep telling yourself you can shit where you eat without getting sick, though, while desperately looking around for supporting examples.
So you're telling me that CO2 is what's going to cause the real human misery. Not poor healthcare, not food to eat, not ways to keep things from spoiling. Not having properly developed agriculture or sewage management. Okay there. Next you'll be saying that burning cow dung indoors doesn't cause lung cancer, and sleeping on the ground in a hut covered with shit doesn't cut your life expectancy in half due to parasites. You do realize that in my examples that not even 1/3 of the people on this rock are at this level. If you're lucky you might hit 20%
Ah, looks like we've run into another person who believes that human misery is the way to go. How's the plan for excessively high energy prices working out for various countries anyway? And do you believe that you can build a world on expensive energy, expensive food, and expensive bare necessities without causing massive suffering to people.
Must be from consoles because they "support silky smooth 30fps" this includes as a marketing point. And 60fps is "too much for the human eye to handle," as droves of console users say. So no big surprise, they're just catering to them.
You do know that "groups" like the KKK are more about political ideology than about religion right? And are more so about race than religion right. If you want to play the logic game, go a head and research it. Oh and France awash with Muslim on Christian violence? Well...let's take a look at the news shall we...it appears that it is...damn.
Fine, brilliant, I used the wrong word. Replace with "islamophobia", "prejudice" or "bigotry". Pick your favourite. They all come from the same place of ignorance & tribalism.
That's great and all, but if I walk into the streets of oh let's say France, I don't need to worry if I'm a Jew that Christians are going to start attacking me. On the otherhand, I do have a valid fear of that from muslims. There's no prejudice or bigotry when a statement is factual, it means that there's something fundamentally wrong with a person, group, or sect.
Shh. If you tell people that they won't know that this has been known since we started agriculture. As a useful tip: Planting tobacco plants mixed with plants that are sensitive to pest infestations will help minimize it.
Well I live in Canada, the only time my ISP(teksavvy) routes to the US now is if I'm requesting a US based address. Not even traffic going to europe or asia is routed through the US.
. It also crosses some of the most inhospitable desert on the content. This adds more than a little difficulty in patrolling and maintaining any sort of 'fence'
I guess the great wall was difficult to patrol as well...never mind.
You actually believe that such a fence would keep people out?
Amazing.
It works in Israel, and it more or less works in Spain. What's the difference? Israel proactively patrols the border. In Spain has various groups that actively work against the border patorls, much like in the US where the current administration is doing the same thing at the behest of various groups. You guys are dense as a post, and I can almost bet that Canada would have a fence in place with active patrols along the border if the US turned into a 3rd world state.
Truth hurts? London is distinctly liberal, in fact they elected a mayor who was a former liberal MP(who was recently charged with breach of trust and other offences), when there were better candidates on the field. And they've done the same with regional councilors.
We we had a similar plant in Ontario, it was shut down because of the air pollution.
Depends which one you're talking about, if it was the one in London Ontario, it was shut down because NIMBY's threw a fit over it. But it used to heat the LHC complex, and now they use natural gas and had to install a boiler complex for all the buildings. They wanted to build one in Ottawa and the same thing happened, and they wanted to build one in Woodstock. The one in Woodstock never happened because NIMBY's who don't freaking live here threw a hissy fit over it. The city, and the general population was in favor of it.
Funny enough, Oxford County much like the city of Woodstock is heavily conservative. And every time some city like London, or K/W(both heavily liberal, pro-green, etc) throws a hissy fit over opening a new plant it ends up coming here. Fastest growing city in Ontario for a reason.
Scant coverage a century ago? Hell, it was scant coverage in the 70's. But that's supposed to be fully accurate too. Never mind that the number of remote monitoring stations has dropped through the floor. Hell my city here in Ontario doesn't even have a monitoring station anymore, everything is "estimated" from nearly 40km away in London, Ontario. At the airport, surrounded by asphalt. We had a monitoring station 15 years ago but it's gone. My sisters town in Alberta? 52km away, in the shadow of a mountain, in a gully, next to a mountain river, surrounded by trees.
Uh why is mercury thermometers, baromiters, and sphygmomanometer's considered the gold standard then? Not only in medicine but also other areas of science.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes there is laws against this. Anyone who lives in Canada, and is a part of the experiment but did not receive informed consent may contact Health Canada/federal crown about it. It's illegal here.
You realize that using google will disprove the first two links in about 8 seconds right? And the last with Germany on average running 38c/KwH isn't the highest in the EU right now right? Old data from wikipedia isn't exactly making your point.
It's called the Farmers Almanac, and it has over the last 100+ years been more accurate than any other model out there.
Oh noes, the evil Koch's. Apparently linking to a Soros linked group for "objectivity" is a-okay though.
And that's why europeans are building coal power plants at astounding rates, and Germany is buying lots of power from France. With that, Germany also has the most expensive electricity in the world. Forward to bankruptcy!
Don't worry, they will just slash and burn the [remaining] forests to provide arable land. What could possibly go wrong?
We have more forest in Canada today then there was 150 years ago. With that though we've got a wonderful plague of insects and diseases because of the US and piss poor import management which are destroying forests. Then again, with the amount of arable farmland we have here, we wouldn't have to do squat.
Really? I'm pretty sure I'm trading the long term for the long term in a different way. Tell me, what would happen if to those countries where they're having 8-10 kids at a time, like we here in the west were not even 80 years ago. Pre-industrial revolution of course, and they were suddenly in the span of 80 years on-at-or near par with us technologically.
Just ponder that one out, and while you're still thinking just think if there were more people like Norman Bourlag around, who in fact focused on food, and food production and attempted several times to introduce it to those dirt farming nations that are perpetually broke, rocked by wars and so on because of food shortages mainly. Now, while you're thinking on this what happens when you have an entire rock that's able to feed itself, has a high standard of living and is producing people who are intellectually fit and not driven by "tribal conflicts" and so on.
I'll wait, because you probably don't have an answer to those hypothetical statements. But as a point, Bourlag attempted several times to increase farming there, and nearly every time it was leftist groups causing problems, or wars causing problems.
Now tell me, which option is the way to go for "human misery"?
Apparently it's both. Then again I live in an energy-rich country that's a massive net-exporter of everything from oil based, to nuclear based. Funny enough we supply ~20% of the energy for the US North East. You get one guess to which country.
Let me guess, you typed that while staring into a reflective, black screen. Permitting unchecked emissions of CO2 is what's going to cause us the real human misery. Keep telling yourself you can shit where you eat without getting sick, though, while desperately looking around for supporting examples.
So you're telling me that CO2 is what's going to cause the real human misery. Not poor healthcare, not food to eat, not ways to keep things from spoiling. Not having properly developed agriculture or sewage management. Okay there. Next you'll be saying that burning cow dung indoors doesn't cause lung cancer, and sleeping on the ground in a hut covered with shit doesn't cut your life expectancy in half due to parasites. You do realize that in my examples that not even 1/3 of the people on this rock are at this level. If you're lucky you might hit 20%
This just illustrates that carbon tax is too low
Ah, looks like we've run into another person who believes that human misery is the way to go. How's the plan for excessively high energy prices working out for various countries anyway? And do you believe that you can build a world on expensive energy, expensive food, and expensive bare necessities without causing massive suffering to people.
Must be from consoles because they "support silky smooth 30fps" this includes as a marketing point. And 60fps is "too much for the human eye to handle," as droves of console users say. So no big surprise, they're just catering to them.
Or do what Australia does, and actually fine people who don't vote
Dictatorships world around congratulate you on your fine despotic tendencies.
You do know that "groups" like the KKK are more about political ideology than about religion right? And are more so about race than religion right. If you want to play the logic game, go a head and research it. Oh and France awash with Muslim on Christian violence? Well...let's take a look at the news shall we...it appears that it is...damn.
Fine, brilliant, I used the wrong word. Replace with "islamophobia", "prejudice" or "bigotry". Pick your favourite. They all come from the same place of ignorance & tribalism.
That's great and all, but if I walk into the streets of oh let's say France, I don't need to worry if I'm a Jew that Christians are going to start attacking me. On the otherhand, I do have a valid fear of that from muslims. There's no prejudice or bigotry when a statement is factual, it means that there's something fundamentally wrong with a person, group, or sect.
Shh. If you tell people that they won't know that this has been known since we started agriculture. As a useful tip: Planting tobacco plants mixed with plants that are sensitive to pest infestations will help minimize it.
Dude, do a traceroute to slashdot or GTFO.
Well I live in Canada, the only time my ISP(teksavvy) routes to the US now is if I'm requesting a US based address. Not even traffic going to europe or asia is routed through the US.
Hey, that guy illegally downloaded a movie that's worth 20$ on DVD.
Let's put him in jail, costing the government thousands of dollars per year.
Seems to me that while the UK was one of the near or first countries to get rid of debtors prisons, they're on the forefront of bringing them back.
. It also crosses some of the most inhospitable desert on the content. This adds more than a little difficulty in patrolling and maintaining any sort of 'fence'
I guess the great wall was difficult to patrol as well...never mind.
You actually believe that such a fence would keep people out?
Amazing.
It works in Israel, and it more or less works in Spain. What's the difference? Israel proactively patrols the border. In Spain has various groups that actively work against the border patorls, much like in the US where the current administration is doing the same thing at the behest of various groups. You guys are dense as a post, and I can almost bet that Canada would have a fence in place with active patrols along the border if the US turned into a 3rd world state.
One can only hope.
A fine display of liberalism.
+1, Funny
Truth hurts? London is distinctly liberal, in fact they elected a mayor who was a former liberal MP(who was recently charged with breach of trust and other offences), when there were better candidates on the field. And they've done the same with regional councilors.
Protip: Motherjones is far-left.
Your bias is showing.
We we had a similar plant in Ontario, it was shut down because of the air pollution.
Depends which one you're talking about, if it was the one in London Ontario, it was shut down because NIMBY's threw a fit over it. But it used to heat the LHC complex, and now they use natural gas and had to install a boiler complex for all the buildings. They wanted to build one in Ottawa and the same thing happened, and they wanted to build one in Woodstock. The one in Woodstock never happened because NIMBY's who don't freaking live here threw a hissy fit over it. The city, and the general population was in favor of it.
Funny enough, Oxford County much like the city of Woodstock is heavily conservative. And every time some city like London, or K/W(both heavily liberal, pro-green, etc) throws a hissy fit over opening a new plant it ends up coming here. Fastest growing city in Ontario for a reason.
Scant coverage a century ago? Hell, it was scant coverage in the 70's. But that's supposed to be fully accurate too. Never mind that the number of remote monitoring stations has dropped through the floor. Hell my city here in Ontario doesn't even have a monitoring station anymore, everything is "estimated" from nearly 40km away in London, Ontario. At the airport, surrounded by asphalt. We had a monitoring station 15 years ago but it's gone. My sisters town in Alberta? 52km away, in the shadow of a mountain, in a gully, next to a mountain river, surrounded by trees.
Accurate!
Uh why is mercury thermometers, baromiters, and sphygmomanometer's considered the gold standard then? Not only in medicine but also other areas of science.