So the problem is the businesses and wall street, but nowhere do I see in your reply that business owners should be punished....only the immigrants themselves. You know, the people trying to make a better life for themselves who are being exploited by plutocrats.
Apparently you didn't read too well then, because I've made that statement in the past. Then again, this isn't about immigrants now is it. It's about illegals and wage depression caused by companies depressing the wage, by importing 3rd world labor.
... Why shouldn't a produce-picker be able to live a comfortable life and be able to have nice things. They work HARD, it might not be as intellectual as code work, but they work their asses off.
If you haven't figured out that the valuation of a job is based on the skills a person has, you're not going to get very far in life. Besides, that very little in terms of crops are even hand picked anymore. Hell we don't even pick blueberries or grapes by hand in most of Canada.
so was the outsourcing of the US's manufacturing jobs in the 70's, but I don't recall ever seeing you complain about that other than perhaps calling rust belt factory workers stupid for not seeing the way things were going and becoming coders or something.
Sure was. But you apparently haven't been paying attention to what I've said over the last decade or anything either, but calling "rust belt factory workers stupid" seems to be the way of it for progressives. Hey, by the way. Did you ever notice that when this was happening, that there was no help from government in most cases to find these people new lines of work? Bet you didn't.
National post? isn't that like the Canadian equivalent of the uber-capitalist-uber-right National Review here in the states? Don't you think that site might not be un-biased on such things?
It's one of the largest centrist papers in Canada, your bias and ignorance is showing. Glad to help educate you though.
You mean like with DDLC? Or Confederate Flag? Or words like Glock, Ruger, rifle, sniper rifle? Oh those were all just "errors and mistakes" that repeatedly happen right? They just happen so many times, and so often.
FWIW, I've not yet aware of anything that Vice has reported inaccurately.
You haven't been paying attention then. Take their freakout over Cyberpunk 2077. Their claim that "free speech is only a far-right issue." Their flip-flopping on outrage mobs(it's okay to go after roseanne, but not gunn). Their cutting of their Jordan Peterson interview, and re-arrangement of sections to paint an ideological narrative, and editing to take replies out-of-context. The nice little bit of bullshit with Namoi Wu, and doxing her, then reprting her to a government that has a stance against same-sex relationships(China). And last because it's funny, anything that's conservative is automatically alt-right.
They're no different then gawker or buzzfeed these days.
Yeah but that's not what's happening. Rather farmers put fertilizer out, then get hit by sudden runs of storms from either coast. Which is what happens in a lot of cases, hell we just finished having a similar problem way way way north up here in Ontario. Weather forecasts have 0% of rain for literal days, farmers go out and spray fertilizer, and surprise! Next 4 days of nothing but rain off and on.
Poor weather forecasting has a much bigger impact on fertilizer runoff then farmers "dumping" run off, on top of that making more then what you use is a waste anyway - as it comes out of your bottom line. As it's very easy to determine the mix these days, and find out what farmer was using what and fine them into the dirt over it.
Yeah, we've got the same system in Ontario. Problem is both of these organizations have been hit by bribery scandals over the last decade. Generally with businesses, but occasionally with rich property owners as well. There's also been numerous cases where the organizations have over valued properties that they never visited and increased property taxes by 1000% or more, and of course you have to pay for that appeal as well. I know of two cases in the city I used to live where the property tax on a 150 year old house went from $1500/year to $11,000/year there was no recorded visitation done, no onsite inspection. Some people have been hit with $5000 charges to appeal and other shady shit, especially to elderly homeowners and companies trying to "buy" up valuable land.
This led to an entire shitshow here in Ontario where it went through the usual legal crap, and now MPAC must prove the valuation with no help of the owner of the property. But these "mistakes" still happen. Don't forget out there in BC, you've also got your on-going investigation with realtors taking a slice out of that property assessment pie as well as triple dipping to sell a property by running the prices up.
It's nice to see someone arguing for minimum wage instead of pretending it should be abolished, for once.
Those jobs in restaurants? Maybe they were meant for high school kids in 1960s USA but nowadays we're all meant (in Europe and US) to be in a service economy. Yes, adults make a career in restaurants and hotels and always did outside the fast food sector. Yes 60-year-olds on minimum wage are a thing too.
Problem is, here in Ontario the "jump" in the minimum wage cause nearly 70k people to lose their jobs at the start of the year as employers were unable to afford it. It was all based around the idea that Toronto is the centre of the universe. And while you're right that those jobs do exist, in most cases being 60 and working at a restaurant was usually the "old folks" looking to make a bit of cash and helping the new kids out. Some people also did it because they were disabled, but didn't want to be on the public dole and so on. The stigma of being on social assistance(welfare) has been pretty much lost over the last 20-30 years or so. The problem with a service economy is that you're not going to be selling high end products, or even middle-of-the-road products to people making minimum wage, especially when a significant percentage of your employable population is making minimum wage or just over it.
This is why the loss of the middle class hurts both the general economy and lower income the most, because as that middle class disappears one of two things happen. Either the government takes the option to increase the non-taxable bracket, or they start taxing the poorest while giving tax breaks to those service jobs to keep them in the province. Which is what's happened in Ontario. The province has lost nearly 300k middle class jobs in the last 7 years. The average wage of those jobs was over $68k/year, the median income of the province $52k/year, the average wage of a person working those service jobs is just above the poverty line at $35k/year. A person working a service job eeking out that little is not going to afford even a basic shithole in Toronto, or even London, or hell even Woodstock these days. They're going to be working 2-4 jobs to make ends meet, they likely won't get married, they won't have kids either. There are a lot of people in the 25-39 bracket like that in the province, and it accelerated over the last 10 years because those were the policies pushed.
Apparently, understanding why the provincial government is charging the federal government $200m is what you're missing. So let me explain. $220m is the general and total allotted budget increase amount for ALL people on social assistance in the province of Ontario, out of $8.7B yearly for social assistance. The number of illegals entering the country *broke* the piggy bank. There is no more money, the debt is too high, the lenders are looking to downgrade the province again if the ship isn't righted. That means no COLA, no increases, no extra helping hands. No extra $15/mo. Notta. 36k people roughly was enough to fuck it up for every person getting social assistance, not disability. And this was directly caused by Trudeau Jr., opening his mouth and saying "we're open to take those illegals..."
Oh look. The AC, who doesn't seem to understand that illegals entering a country illegally, are illegal. That being employed as such, is illegal. That using social assistance in any form such as that is illegal. That the only way to get that social assistance is through fraud, which is illegal. Oh, there's plenty of ways to be illegal in a country, you can try and white wash it in any form you want, but you're just showing your fundamental ignorance.
The foreign aliens working their asses off in poultry processing factories in Arkansas? Or picking lettuce in California? Running small gardening/handyman/home fix-up services out of pick-up truck at Lowe's? Slaving away in restaurants and hotels and not getting paid fair wages because their employers threaten them?
You mean the people who are paid under-wage, and in turn because of that depresses the actual wage so people won't want to work those jobs? I mean how does the poor and let's be realistic, they are poor americans who'd do those jobs, how do they compete against someone when a company can import the labor for 1/2 the going rate. Or illegally pay under the table 1/4 the wage. They can't.
Even at that, those service jobs in restaurants and hotels were never meant to be a long-term job, but a stepping stone to a better one. Problem of course is when someone can be imported, then the people who are poor get a depressed wage and find it even harder to climb up.
Time to grow up, stop the new version of slavery and that's what it is. TFWs, H2B's, and all the flavors it's all wage depression. Hell I can remember the crash in wages being paid in the 1980's because I was a kid working ON a farm, picking rocks, strawberries, tobacco, blueberries, lettuce and so on. Where it went from hourly, to half-hourly plus weight, then by bushel(weight) only. And guess what happened? People stopped working on those farms when they were only being paid by weight. Them guess what happened? "OH WOE IS US..." we can't find ANY workers, we need to import them says the large corporate farms, this created a race to the bottom for the lowest wages as small farms followed suit, or simply went under because of the undercutting.
Oh and if you don't think those illegals aren't abusing your welfare services? Well dear boy, look north to Canada where those illegals with a mere "36,000" of them broke the welfare systems of Ontario and Quebec in a matter of months. Just a FYI of course, those are the people who were supposed be deported back to their home countries by your government a decade and change ago and the powers that be said "well...it's okay that there here."
But hey, those poor folks up here? They're the ones that have been on a waiting list for 4-8 years for low income housing and now being kicked out and directly onto the street for the illegals that YOU FUCKS didn't deport.
When getting a voter ID card in the US does not entail hours taken out of a day and travel that is extremely burdensome to someone without access to a car, then I'll start listening to your argument.
You know how long it took me to get my 2nd ID card? It was called an "age of majority" card 6 minutes, plus 11 days waiting in the mail. If you can walk down to the liquor store to get boozed up, you can walk the extra block to the post office and get one.
Wow, you really don't know what "racist" means. This explains why you are so permanently confused.
This coming from the person who thinks that a fbi.gov link is malware is kinda funny. Then again, I seem to remember you're a bit on the slow side and think that racism can only mean "privilege+power"
You are the first person in this thread to call them such hurtful names.
There's no hurtful names. The author is promoting the idea that these supposed people are too stupid, or too ignorant to be able to get some form of identification. This is also the mantra of the left, when they argue against it.
Canada does not have the same history of institutionalized racism that we had in the South. Many US states used various election rules as an attempt to restrict voting by minorities - this is basic grade school history.
No? I guess you never heard of the part here in Canada, where we genocided natives harder then the US. Allowed the Catholics to put them through reeducation camps, and forcibly sterilized many of them to keep their population under control.
And yet...those natives still have ID which they can vote with. Your fundamental ignorance of another country is palpable.
Sorry, I don't feel any pity or remorse for what the UK, Spain, or France did ~500 years ago. And considering there's archilogical evidence pointing that the "natives" genocided another group of people living here, well I'm sure they can start the rounds of apology first.
Not even true. You can look north to Canada, and see that your entire point is moot. Natives are paid large amounts of money via treaty, and most live in abject poverty. There's only a couple of bands where this hasn't happened because they decided to actually improve things, instead of the corrupt band council and leaders pocketing all the money.
Guess what happened when the previous government passed a law requiring transparency and accounting of that money. The leftists screeched that it was racism. The band councils(except for those few) screeched it was racism. When Trudeau Jr., came to power they revoked the law. It's a misery of their own making, one that they could fix and don't care to.
I thought a better solution would be to basically bulldoze the hills that are on fire with mountain-mover equipment. The large bucket in front of a huge tracked vehicle would smash the combustibles under the ground and stop the fire.
Problem is, a forest fire can "jump" up to 2mi(3.2km) away from the burning embers of the primary fire. That's one of the big issues with fighting these things, and why spotters constantly watch for them. Don't forget that these fires can move fast, really fast especially in dry conditions, or conditions where there hasn't been a fire in decades.
Using air burst options would be a good idea, a secondary drop of flame retardant on top if it would be an even better option.
You're saying that the poor are too stupid to get their voter-ID card, and the "depressed minorities via disenfranchisement" are too incompetent to get a voter-ID card. Good old bigotry and racism of low expectations.
So is Canada a racist country because you MUST present ID in order to vote? Or is this issue only racist because it directly correlates to the US, thus any form of security of elections is automatically racist, because again those people are too stupid, or too poor to get voter ID.
No, it isn't. Real conservatism doesn't just cut things they don't like with little to no rational backing.
We see this in the ending of UBI, the conservatives didn't provide any evidence it is bad, other than their declaration by fiat that it is bad.
Oh, so you're the arbiter of what's "real conservatism" now? Except the part where subject experts had and if you read the AG report you'd also know why. You did, didn't you?
Except it's not by the majority of people. Remember how you like to complain about Toronto area having a majority of the people and thus seats in an election? That's the same majority where the "Red Star" came from, and don't call their newspaper by your slur.
Except it is. Why don't you go for a walk in downtown Toronto, and ask people what their opinion and pet name for the paper is. Boy will you be surprised.
No, I don't mean the auditor general, and you shouldn't either. From TFS, and from me searching around, the one pushing an end to UBI is Lisa MacLeod, Social Services Minister (who's only been at the job for like a month or two), who's declaring it's bad, without referencing the auditor general or any research.
Then you're fundamentally ignorant of the subject matter and should really stop replying about it. The AG who made the report was a LIBERAL appointee.
Amazing. Everything you said there is wrong.
Your statement I was responding to was "Oh, so you're the one that's going to cough up the money?"
Going backwards, it isn't pointing any flaw in my argument, as my argument is not about me supporting or not supporting UBI, but whether Ford is a "Trump style conservative". Whether I'm willing or not willing to pay for a UBI is irrelevant to whether Ford's action (trying to cut it with no rational, only declaring by fiat that it's bad) fits "Trump style".
And since you go the argument wrong, your statement does attack me as a person. You're trying to bring me into an argument that doesn't involve my (or your) personal stake.
And none of this follows from the first. Your first was asking me to explain why "the Red Star" supported cutting councilors, while this comment about money is about the UBI.
Well you've sure offered a non-argument there. So again, are you the one coughing up the money or do you expect the people in Ontario who are already at the breaking point from taxation to pay for it? This is of course the same province that's shed 300k+ high paying manufacturing jobs in the last 7 years. No, my statement doesn't attack you as a person. My statement attacks your profound ignorance on the state of Ontario, it's financial status, it's taxation status, it's high GDP to debt ratio.
And of course it follows from the first. You do understand that the TorStar has for decades supported, and made statements that the cutting of councilors is important? Remember the part where you said "Where Trump tries to "drain the swamp" in DC, Ford tries to reduce number of Toronto councilors in the name of making things more efficient" but you're again fundamentally ignorant of why the largest left-leaning paper in Ontario has been advocating it.
I've explained plenty, more than I had to.
You've danced around, and offered nothing but opinions. On the other hand, I've listed and stated media, and in that media, not only reporters, but opinion writers who've given their views on this. You can find them on your own to read, it's not hard.
You objected to somebody else calling Ford "Trump style conservatives"
I pointed out how Ford displays characteristics fitting for "Trump style conservatisim"
You rambled a bunch of things that don't really refute what I said.
Yeah, so you've got two workers who were exposed to LIQUID CCA. Seriously, I worked at a mill that made pressure treated lumber with CCA, you suited up when handling it. Your entire study has to do with direct exposure to CCA, not surface contact. You get more arsenic from eating hot dogs.
Not nearly as prevalent as they once were, although this was primarily market-driven.
True and give it another 10 years and they'll discover that maybe they weren't really as bad as they thought, just like butter, milk, eggs, bacon, and various other fats.
Correct. But remind me why R12 and R22 are being phased out? The Trump EPA could just as well allow the mass-manufacture of this stuff again because, you know, the destruction of the ozone layer is fake like global warming.
Well that's easy, because they were more damaging to the environment. Problem though, because the "replacement coolants" are smaller in size then R12 and R22 the devices they're used in(fridges, AC and so on), tend to have more leaks. Half a dozen of one, half a dozen of the other right? Don't forget that various cutting fluids also count as CFC and they're still in use in everything from milling to machining.
I'm not going to take a chance on something so easily avoidable. Wouldn't you?
It's not easily avoidable though, the stuff is everywhere. If you live within 70-200 miles of any type of open-pit mining you've probably been breathing in trace amounts all your life. There are ways to make it safer though.
Agreed. But until then keep that crap away from me. It's a known carcinogen when inhaled and I'm not going to sign up to take such a silly risk.
Then don't breath broken fibers, simple enough right? That's the thing, it has amazing, absolutely amazing industrial properties far beyond anything that we make right now. It's the decades of improper handling followed up by massive lawsuits that have caused issues. There's a very good reason it was used as a fire-stop between connected buildings, for example. Even the manufactured board that we use now that's absolutely permeated with an assload of toxic chemicals is shit compared to it. Oh and the chemical residue from it burning? More toxic and has more immediate health issues then asbestos, by more toxic I mean will cause immediate and permanent scaring of lungs, and can kill an unprotected person in 20 minutes. That's what we replaced asbestos with, which is perfectly fine unless you start hammering away at it.
145 isn't small? Where the hell do you live? There's more then 1800 farmers in just the county I live in, and the average farm is around 150 acres in size and this is a tiny county compared to say Durham or Niagara counties, that's not even touching the areas in the green belt.
A gun without metallic ammo is simply going to explode. No ifs ands or buts about it.
Hate to tell you this, but a decade ago military's were worried that china was about to start selling ceramic ammo knock-offs of existing ceramic ammo that are already in use. You really want to read up on it? Look up the hearings on X-SAPI which had a large over-discussion/panic because of it.
Several states just finished passing laws to allow teachers to have guns in their classroom if they're concealed, and the carrier has a concealed-carry permit. You seem to be very much out-of-step with what's been happening the last couple of years.
That's funny, because most of those "rural whites" own rifles the next makeup is what are affectionately known as "granny pistols", and most gangbangers are using illegally modified semi-automatic to automatics, or guns that have been illegally trafficked to Mexico and reslushed through gangs in the US. Hey remember that gun-running scheme by Holder, you know the guy who was Obama's DA? Remember how one of the weapons ended up in fucking France, mowing down a bunch of people? Yeah, lots of people still do.
HF blankets if you're welding, but if you're pulling something apart? A blanket won't take the temperatures of oxy-acetylene very well, and catch on fire pretty quickly. Nothing really ever beat asbestos for that. All shop rags are cotton, too much crap in vehicle fluids will dissolve any other blend to even bother screwing around with. That's really all there is to it. HF's are rated to 3000F(1648C), your average cutting temperature for oxy-acetylene is 6,000F(3315). Cotton rags soaked with water? Cheap, very cheap. It also fits into areas where a blanket won't. Though some people have their own 1/4" to 1/2" curved steel plates they use when cutting.
Really depends on the shop, but 9/10 guys who've apprenticed over the last 40 years will use soppy-wet cotton rags.
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So the problem is the businesses and wall street, but nowhere do I see in your reply that business owners should be punished....only the immigrants themselves. You know, the people trying to make a better life for themselves who are being exploited by plutocrats.
Apparently you didn't read too well then, because I've made that statement in the past. Then again, this isn't about immigrants now is it. It's about illegals and wage depression caused by companies depressing the wage, by importing 3rd world labor.
... Why shouldn't a produce-picker be able to live a comfortable life and be able to have nice things. They work HARD, it might not be as intellectual as code work, but they work their asses off.
If you haven't figured out that the valuation of a job is based on the skills a person has, you're not going to get very far in life. Besides, that very little in terms of crops are even hand picked anymore. Hell we don't even pick blueberries or grapes by hand in most of Canada.
so was the outsourcing of the US's manufacturing jobs in the 70's, but I don't recall ever seeing you complain about that other than perhaps calling rust belt factory workers stupid for not seeing the way things were going and becoming coders or something.
Sure was. But you apparently haven't been paying attention to what I've said over the last decade or anything either, but calling "rust belt factory workers stupid" seems to be the way of it for progressives. Hey, by the way. Did you ever notice that when this was happening, that there was no help from government in most cases to find these people new lines of work? Bet you didn't.
National post? isn't that like the Canadian equivalent of the uber-capitalist-uber-right National Review here in the states? Don't you think that site might not be un-biased on such things?
It's one of the largest centrist papers in Canada, your bias and ignorance is showing. Glad to help educate you though.
Not in a conventional meaning of the word, no.
You mean like with DDLC? Or Confederate Flag? Or words like Glock, Ruger, rifle, sniper rifle? Oh those were all just "errors and mistakes" that repeatedly happen right? They just happen so many times, and so often.
FWIW, I've not yet aware of anything that Vice has reported inaccurately.
You haven't been paying attention then. Take their freakout over Cyberpunk 2077. Their claim that "free speech is only a far-right issue." Their flip-flopping on outrage mobs(it's okay to go after roseanne, but not gunn). Their cutting of their Jordan Peterson interview, and re-arrangement of sections to paint an ideological narrative, and editing to take replies out-of-context. The nice little bit of bullshit with Namoi Wu, and doxing her, then reprting her to a government that has a stance against same-sex relationships(China). And last because it's funny, anything that's conservative is automatically alt-right.
They're no different then gawker or buzzfeed these days.
Yeah but that's not what's happening. Rather farmers put fertilizer out, then get hit by sudden runs of storms from either coast. Which is what happens in a lot of cases, hell we just finished having a similar problem way way way north up here in Ontario. Weather forecasts have 0% of rain for literal days, farmers go out and spray fertilizer, and surprise! Next 4 days of nothing but rain off and on.
Poor weather forecasting has a much bigger impact on fertilizer runoff then farmers "dumping" run off, on top of that making more then what you use is a waste anyway - as it comes out of your bottom line. As it's very easy to determine the mix these days, and find out what farmer was using what and fine them into the dirt over it.
Yeah, we've got the same system in Ontario. Problem is both of these organizations have been hit by bribery scandals over the last decade. Generally with businesses, but occasionally with rich property owners as well. There's also been numerous cases where the organizations have over valued properties that they never visited and increased property taxes by 1000% or more, and of course you have to pay for that appeal as well. I know of two cases in the city I used to live where the property tax on a 150 year old house went from $1500/year to $11,000/year there was no recorded visitation done, no onsite inspection. Some people have been hit with $5000 charges to appeal and other shady shit, especially to elderly homeowners and companies trying to "buy" up valuable land.
This led to an entire shitshow here in Ontario where it went through the usual legal crap, and now MPAC must prove the valuation with no help of the owner of the property. But these "mistakes" still happen. Don't forget out there in BC, you've also got your on-going investigation with realtors taking a slice out of that property assessment pie as well as triple dipping to sell a property by running the prices up.
It's nice to see someone arguing for minimum wage instead of pretending it should be abolished, for once.
Those jobs in restaurants? Maybe they were meant for high school kids in 1960s USA but nowadays we're all meant (in Europe and US) to be in a service economy. Yes, adults make a career in restaurants and hotels and always did outside the fast food sector. Yes 60-year-olds on minimum wage are a thing too.
Problem is, here in Ontario the "jump" in the minimum wage cause nearly 70k people to lose their jobs at the start of the year as employers were unable to afford it. It was all based around the idea that Toronto is the centre of the universe. And while you're right that those jobs do exist, in most cases being 60 and working at a restaurant was usually the "old folks" looking to make a bit of cash and helping the new kids out. Some people also did it because they were disabled, but didn't want to be on the public dole and so on. The stigma of being on social assistance(welfare) has been pretty much lost over the last 20-30 years or so. The problem with a service economy is that you're not going to be selling high end products, or even middle-of-the-road products to people making minimum wage, especially when a significant percentage of your employable population is making minimum wage or just over it.
This is why the loss of the middle class hurts both the general economy and lower income the most, because as that middle class disappears one of two things happen. Either the government takes the option to increase the non-taxable bracket, or they start taxing the poorest while giving tax breaks to those service jobs to keep them in the province. Which is what's happened in Ontario. The province has lost nearly 300k middle class jobs in the last 7 years. The average wage of those jobs was over $68k/year, the median income of the province $52k/year, the average wage of a person working those service jobs is just above the poverty line at $35k/year. A person working a service job eeking out that little is not going to afford even a basic shithole in Toronto, or even London, or hell even Woodstock these days. They're going to be working 2-4 jobs to make ends meet, they likely won't get married, they won't have kids either. There are a lot of people in the 25-39 bracket like that in the province, and it accelerated over the last 10 years because those were the policies pushed.
Apparently, understanding why the provincial government is charging the federal government $200m is what you're missing. So let me explain. $220m is the general and total allotted budget increase amount for ALL people on social assistance in the province of Ontario, out of $8.7B yearly for social assistance. The number of illegals entering the country *broke* the piggy bank. There is no more money, the debt is too high, the lenders are looking to downgrade the province again if the ship isn't righted. That means no COLA, no increases, no extra helping hands. No extra $15/mo. Notta. 36k people roughly was enough to fuck it up for every person getting social assistance, not disability. And this was directly caused by Trudeau Jr., opening his mouth and saying "we're open to take those illegals..."
Oh look. The AC, who doesn't seem to understand that illegals entering a country illegally, are illegal. That being employed as such, is illegal. That using social assistance in any form such as that is illegal. That the only way to get that social assistance is through fraud, which is illegal. Oh, there's plenty of ways to be illegal in a country, you can try and white wash it in any form you want, but you're just showing your fundamental ignorance.
The foreign aliens working their asses off in poultry processing factories in Arkansas? Or picking lettuce in California? Running small gardening/handyman/home fix-up services out of pick-up truck at Lowe's? Slaving away in restaurants and hotels and not getting paid fair wages because their employers threaten them?
You mean the people who are paid under-wage, and in turn because of that depresses the actual wage so people won't want to work those jobs? I mean how does the poor and let's be realistic, they are poor americans who'd do those jobs, how do they compete against someone when a company can import the labor for 1/2 the going rate. Or illegally pay under the table 1/4 the wage. They can't.
Even at that, those service jobs in restaurants and hotels were never meant to be a long-term job, but a stepping stone to a better one. Problem of course is when someone can be imported, then the people who are poor get a depressed wage and find it even harder to climb up.
Time to grow up, stop the new version of slavery and that's what it is. TFWs, H2B's, and all the flavors it's all wage depression. Hell I can remember the crash in wages being paid in the 1980's because I was a kid working ON a farm, picking rocks, strawberries, tobacco, blueberries, lettuce and so on. Where it went from hourly, to half-hourly plus weight, then by bushel(weight) only. And guess what happened? People stopped working on those farms when they were only being paid by weight. Them guess what happened? "OH WOE IS US..." we can't find ANY workers, we need to import them says the large corporate farms, this created a race to the bottom for the lowest wages as small farms followed suit, or simply went under because of the undercutting.
Oh and if you don't think those illegals aren't abusing your welfare services? Well dear boy, look north to Canada where those illegals with a mere "36,000" of them broke the welfare systems of Ontario and Quebec in a matter of months. Just a FYI of course, those are the people who were supposed be deported back to their home countries by your government a decade and change ago and the powers that be said "well...it's okay that there here."
But hey, those poor folks up here? They're the ones that have been on a waiting list for 4-8 years for low income housing and now being kicked out and directly onto the street for the illegals that YOU FUCKS didn't deport.
When getting a voter ID card in the US does not entail hours taken out of a day and travel that is extremely burdensome to someone without access to a car, then I'll start listening to your argument.
You know how long it took me to get my 2nd ID card? It was called an "age of majority" card 6 minutes, plus 11 days waiting in the mail. If you can walk down to the liquor store to get boozed up, you can walk the extra block to the post office and get one.
Wow, you really don't know what "racist" means. This explains why you are so permanently confused.
This coming from the person who thinks that a fbi.gov link is malware is kinda funny. Then again, I seem to remember you're a bit on the slow side and think that racism can only mean "privilege+power"
You are the first person in this thread to call them such hurtful names.
There's no hurtful names. The author is promoting the idea that these supposed people are too stupid, or too ignorant to be able to get some form of identification. This is also the mantra of the left, when they argue against it.
Canada does not have the same history of institutionalized racism that we had in the South. Many US states used various election rules as an attempt to restrict voting by minorities - this is basic grade school history.
No? I guess you never heard of the part here in Canada, where we genocided natives harder then the US. Allowed the Catholics to put them through reeducation camps, and forcibly sterilized many of them to keep their population under control.
And yet...those natives still have ID which they can vote with. Your fundamental ignorance of another country is palpable.
Sorry, I don't feel any pity or remorse for what the UK, Spain, or France did ~500 years ago. And considering there's archilogical evidence pointing that the "natives" genocided another group of people living here, well I'm sure they can start the rounds of apology first.
Not even true. You can look north to Canada, and see that your entire point is moot. Natives are paid large amounts of money via treaty, and most live in abject poverty. There's only a couple of bands where this hasn't happened because they decided to actually improve things, instead of the corrupt band council and leaders pocketing all the money.
Guess what happened when the previous government passed a law requiring transparency and accounting of that money. The leftists screeched that it was racism. The band councils(except for those few) screeched it was racism. When Trudeau Jr., came to power they revoked the law. It's a misery of their own making, one that they could fix and don't care to.
I thought a better solution would be to basically bulldoze the hills that are on fire with mountain-mover equipment. The large bucket in front of a huge tracked vehicle would smash the combustibles under the ground and stop the fire.
Problem is, a forest fire can "jump" up to 2mi(3.2km) away from the burning embers of the primary fire. That's one of the big issues with fighting these things, and why spotters constantly watch for them. Don't forget that these fires can move fast, really fast especially in dry conditions, or conditions where there hasn't been a fire in decades.
Using air burst options would be a good idea, a secondary drop of flame retardant on top if it would be an even better option.
You're saying that the poor are too stupid to get their voter-ID card, and the "depressed minorities via disenfranchisement" are too incompetent to get a voter-ID card. Good old bigotry and racism of low expectations.
So is Canada a racist country because you MUST present ID in order to vote? Or is this issue only racist because it directly correlates to the US, thus any form of security of elections is automatically racist, because again those people are too stupid, or too poor to get voter ID.
No, it isn't. Real conservatism doesn't just cut things they don't like with little to no rational backing.
We see this in the ending of UBI, the conservatives didn't provide any evidence it is bad, other than their declaration by fiat that it is bad.
Oh, so you're the arbiter of what's "real conservatism" now? Except the part where subject experts had and if you read the AG report you'd also know why. You did, didn't you?
Except it's not by the majority of people. Remember how you like to complain about Toronto area having a majority of the people and thus seats in an election? That's the same majority where the "Red Star" came from, and don't call their newspaper by your slur.
Except it is. Why don't you go for a walk in downtown Toronto, and ask people what their opinion and pet name for the paper is. Boy will you be surprised.
No, I don't mean the auditor general, and you shouldn't either. From TFS, and from me searching around, the one pushing an end to UBI is Lisa MacLeod, Social Services Minister (who's only been at the job for like a month or two), who's declaring it's bad, without referencing the auditor general or any research.
Then you're fundamentally ignorant of the subject matter and should really stop replying about it. The AG who made the report was a LIBERAL appointee.
Amazing. Everything you said there is wrong.
Your statement I was responding to was "Oh, so you're the one that's going to cough up the money?"
Going backwards, it isn't pointing any flaw in my argument, as my argument is not about me supporting or not supporting UBI, but whether Ford is a "Trump style conservative". Whether I'm willing or not willing to pay for a UBI is irrelevant to whether Ford's action (trying to cut it with no rational, only declaring by fiat that it's bad) fits "Trump style".
And since you go the argument wrong, your statement does attack me as a person. You're trying to bring me into an argument that doesn't involve my (or your) personal stake.
And none of this follows from the first. Your first was asking me to explain why "the Red Star" supported cutting councilors, while this comment about money is about the UBI.
Well you've sure offered a non-argument there. So again, are you the one coughing up the money or do you expect the people in Ontario who are already at the breaking point from taxation to pay for it? This is of course the same province that's shed 300k+ high paying manufacturing jobs in the last 7 years. No, my statement doesn't attack you as a person. My statement attacks your profound ignorance on the state of Ontario, it's financial status, it's taxation status, it's high GDP to debt ratio.
And of course it follows from the first. You do understand that the TorStar has for decades supported, and made statements that the cutting of councilors is important? Remember the part where you said "Where Trump tries to "drain the swamp" in DC, Ford tries to reduce number of Toronto councilors in the name of making things more efficient" but you're again fundamentally ignorant of why the largest left-leaning paper in Ontario has been advocating it.
I've explained plenty, more than I had to.
You've danced around, and offered nothing but opinions. On the other hand, I've listed and stated media, and in that media, not only reporters, but opinion writers who've given their views on this. You can find them on your own to read, it's not hard.
You objected to somebody else calling Ford "Trump style conservatives"
I pointed out how Ford displays characteristics fitting for "Trump style conservatisim"
You rambled a bunch of things that don't really refute what I said.
I responded pointing out to you that what you sa
Not really the answer I'd want. Low? I'd want zero.
Then don't go outside. You're more likely to die from melanoma(skin cancer) then I'd die from mesothelioma(asbestos cancer).
Yeah, so you've got two workers who were exposed to LIQUID CCA. Seriously, I worked at a mill that made pressure treated lumber with CCA, you suited up when handling it. Your entire study has to do with direct exposure to CCA, not surface contact. You get more arsenic from eating hot dogs.
Not nearly as prevalent as they once were, although this was primarily market-driven.
True and give it another 10 years and they'll discover that maybe they weren't really as bad as they thought, just like butter, milk, eggs, bacon, and various other fats.
Correct. But remind me why R12 and R22 are being phased out? The Trump EPA could just as well allow the mass-manufacture of this stuff again because, you know, the destruction of the ozone layer is fake like global warming.
Well that's easy, because they were more damaging to the environment. Problem though, because the "replacement coolants" are smaller in size then R12 and R22 the devices they're used in(fridges, AC and so on), tend to have more leaks. Half a dozen of one, half a dozen of the other right? Don't forget that various cutting fluids also count as CFC and they're still in use in everything from milling to machining.
I'm not going to take a chance on something so easily avoidable. Wouldn't you?
It's not easily avoidable though, the stuff is everywhere. If you live within 70-200 miles of any type of open-pit mining you've probably been breathing in trace amounts all your life. There are ways to make it safer though.
Agreed. But until then keep that crap away from me. It's a known carcinogen when inhaled and I'm not going to sign up to take such a silly risk.
Then don't breath broken fibers, simple enough right? That's the thing, it has amazing, absolutely amazing industrial properties far beyond anything that we make right now. It's the decades of improper handling followed up by massive lawsuits that have caused issues. There's a very good reason it was used as a fire-stop between connected buildings, for example. Even the manufactured board that we use now that's absolutely permeated with an assload of toxic chemicals is shit compared to it. Oh and the chemical residue from it burning? More toxic and has more immediate health issues then asbestos, by more toxic I mean will cause immediate and permanent scaring of lungs, and can kill an unprotected person in 20 minutes. That's what we replaced asbestos with, which is perfectly fine unless you start hammering away at it.
145 isn't small? Where the hell do you live? There's more then 1800 farmers in just the county I live in, and the average farm is around 150 acres in size and this is a tiny county compared to say Durham or Niagara counties, that's not even touching the areas in the green belt.
A gun without metallic ammo is simply going to explode. No ifs ands or buts about it.
Hate to tell you this, but a decade ago military's were worried that china was about to start selling ceramic ammo knock-offs of existing ceramic ammo that are already in use. You really want to read up on it? Look up the hearings on X-SAPI which had a large over-discussion/panic because of it.
Several states just finished passing laws to allow teachers to have guns in their classroom if they're concealed, and the carrier has a concealed-carry permit. You seem to be very much out-of-step with what's been happening the last couple of years.
That's funny, because most of those "rural whites" own rifles the next makeup is what are affectionately known as "granny pistols", and most gangbangers are using illegally modified semi-automatic to automatics, or guns that have been illegally trafficked to Mexico and reslushed through gangs in the US. Hey remember that gun-running scheme by Holder, you know the guy who was Obama's DA? Remember how one of the weapons ended up in fucking France, mowing down a bunch of people? Yeah, lots of people still do.
HF blankets if you're welding, but if you're pulling something apart? A blanket won't take the temperatures of oxy-acetylene very well, and catch on fire pretty quickly. Nothing really ever beat asbestos for that. All shop rags are cotton, too much crap in vehicle fluids will dissolve any other blend to even bother screwing around with. That's really all there is to it. HF's are rated to 3000F(1648C), your average cutting temperature for oxy-acetylene is 6,000F(3315). Cotton rags soaked with water? Cheap, very cheap. It also fits into areas where a blanket won't. Though some people have their own 1/4" to 1/2" curved steel plates they use when cutting.
Really depends on the shop, but 9/10 guys who've apprenticed over the last 40 years will use soppy-wet cotton rags.